/sci/ - Science & Math

Well there are different kinds of math textbooks. Like math for life sciences might not even have proofs.

>>11926292
I wish there were a modern math book written in the style of Euclid’s Elements.

>>11926292
>symbolic logic
real chads write rigorously in spoken language. so that symbolic logic is compact and elegantly contained within the written statements a trained mathematician immediately recognizes as rich of mathematical content, and a novice reader sits puzzled and needs to scribble everything in symbols and juggle them around to comprehend whats going on.

>>11926292
>read math textbook
>every fucking concept is explained in N pages of prose
>proof is completely textual with almost minimal required symbolic logic incorporated
Wow you mean a book that actually tries to explain something to those not already familiar with the subject and is not just the author masturbating to how much nonsensical gibberish he can cram into it in a row before having to use another intelligible sentence?

>>11926292
Just read about an actually high level topic? No one goes through the effort of writing in that style for anything more difficult than babby's first calculus textbook.

>>11926311
Spoonfed brainlet detected

Do you want some pictures with that? Gifs, maybe? How about VR animation? Maybe then you'll understand something?

>is not just the author masturbating to how much nonsensical gibberish he can cram into it in a row before having to use another intelligible sentence?
It's called being terse and rigorous. It is much easier to just cram bullshit in a textbook until you fill 500 pages so you can take a shitload of money from dumb murrican students for knowledge that could be condensed to a 50-page script.

>>11926320
>No one goes through the effort of writing in that style for anything more difficult than babby's first calculus textbook.
Nobody cares for rigor anymore?
:(

OP is confirmed undegrad for two reasons. first reason is that he has never seen an actual high level monograph. second reason is >>11926310.

>>11926310
>Wittgenstein wants to know your location

>>11926292
>>proof is completely textual with almost minimal required symbolic logic incorporated
You don't know what you're asking for.
>>11926310
This.
>>11926327
>Do you want some pictures with that?
Even literal cutting edge math research articles have drawings in them sometimes, undergrad-kun.

Here's a good one with some fun symbolic logic.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38079/38079-pdf.pdf

>needing a proof
OP confirmed for brainlet. A smart Chad only needs a hint for the proof. Rigorously formalizing the idea is then a trivial exercise left to the reader.

>>11926292
Spanier

What are some math textbooks that are written for retards? Honestly, I'd love to learn from a book where every fucking concept is explained in n pages of proses, and with proofs that are almost entirely textual, with no gay excessive symbolic logic.

>>11926307
Greek?

>>11926292
>Are there any textbooks that are still rigorous and to-the-point, instead of being a fucking fantasy story collection dressed as a math textbook?
anything by the Frenchmen, Lang & Serre being prime examples

>>11926292
here OP, this is what you want
http://us.metamath.org/
I wouldnt recommend Coq for you, since youre clearly a faggot already

>>11926507

Elementary school textbooks.

>>11926292
Just read what's relatively useful to you, skip the filler, and cross reference with other books.

If you're reading a text book like a story book then you're retarded and lazy.

>>11926292
You haven’t read many math textbooks its more common now than in the 20th century to imprison mathematical arguments in symbolic labyrinths. Compare Tao’s Analysis with Rudin for an elementary example.
>>11926310
based and lyingpilled

What's the best way to read maths textbooks?

>>11926307
why the fuck would you want that? Euclid takes a whole page of the most boring style of writing known to man to explain something that modern textbooks explain in a single line

Niggers are considered human now a days and if they fail it's whitey's fault.
t.Juden

>>11928922
do all of the problems in it. then all of them again. and again. and again. keep doing all of them until you get them all right.

>>11928922
Read a chapter. Try to recreate the chapter from memory, or at the very least, write down the theorems and prove them yourself.

>>11926292
written by retards for retards

>>11928922
make note of anything you think will be on the test
go to that part when taking the test

>>11926292
it's left as an exercise for you
they don't want to take the fun away

>>11929141
>>11929109
I've read through proof books but still find it difficult to get into the 'proof' mentality and I often get frustrated and give up. Maybe I haven't hung around other maths students but how long does it take you guys to do difficult exercises?

>>11926292

stop whining and go straight for EGA or something

and if that is not enough for you then I do not know

>>11926310
>>11926292
real chad writes on paper so he has no problem with weird symbols so this doesnt happen

>>11927080
Any recommendations for elementary school PDE textbooks?

>>11926292
Whos this goddess?

>>11926292
Coffe is good for you as long as you don't drink too much.

>>11931051
Just another generic social media slut. Stop being a simp.

>>11926327
>It's called being terse and rigorous. It is much easier to just cram bullshit in a textbook until you fill 500 pages so you can take a shitload of money from dumb murrican students for knowledge that could be condensed to a 50-page script.
Something seems to be bothering you...
Math is for everyone, not just you, get over it.

>>11929155
Based

>>11926292
>What happened to the
>>axiom
>>definition
>>theorem
>>proof
>model of mathematics?

I pretty much used this in my long paper here is almost, but probably not, long enough to be considered a short book. I also use
>based example
and even drop a few
>based lemma
articles in there.

Fractional Distance: The Topology of the Real Number Line with Applications to the Riemann Hypothesis
https://vixra.org/abs/1906.0237

Direct DL
https://ufile.io/bhasyqmw

>>11931545
ah, the telltale sign of a narcissistic pseudointellectual. walking in to a conversation that has nothing to do with them and trying to make it about themself.

>>11926292
Symbolic logic is shorthand, you should never use it in formal proofs
That's why you don't see it in formal proofs lol

>>11926292
WTF is that dude wearing?