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Let's talk about motivation this time, because even the most capable mind is useless if it doesn't work towards a specific goal that somehow gets you closer to your life goal. So, post about self discipline, your personal goals, how to follow them and how you trick your brain into constantly working towards it.
Last thread: >>11831961

Discuss brain improvement and mind enhancement. We had this thread recently and it hit bump limit, so here it is as a general. Let's make this a thing.
Please post science only, snake oil shit is only allowed if you specifically declare it as such.
We already figured out
> good sleep
>physical exercise (HIIT, endurance, lifting, ...)
> different games such as go, chess, dual-n-back, ...
> microdosing shrooms/LSD (not confirmed)
> meditation, hypnosis and similar
> proper diet, such as
> high fat (but only good fats obviously)
> supplement zinc, magnesium, ... (inb4 copper fag starts shitposting about literal pigs)
> if you accept addiction: adderal, caffeine, nicotine, ...
> not touching your dick [citation needed]
> learning languages (preferably ones that differ from your native one)
> probably something else that I forgot already because I didn't take the time to study memory techniques

One thing I'd like to hear about is how to git good at creative thinking. I can solve stuff when I have a clear objective but I suck at thinking of something creative just for the sake of creativity
Post whatever comes to your mind, let's use our full potential to think of even weirder shitposts.

>> No.11880840

>>11880811
Has anyone got experience with coca leaves? They seem like a better version of coffee, south americans chewed on them all the time when they were in critical situations. They are good for nausea and brain fog and obviously quite stimulating, but without the extreme high of coke.
But I have just read all of this as it is impossible to try it anywhere in the world except south america nowadays.

>> No.11880915
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I've recently gotten into Sokoban games do those help

>> No.11881315

>>11880811
>Asks for creativity advice in 3 threads
>still doesn't get a single answer
That's the only reason I even come here, the other part of the thread is quite boring imo

>> No.11881318

r/nootropics told me NSI-189 is the bomb

>> No.11881497

>>11881318
r/foundtheredditor

>> No.11881508
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11881508

>>11880811
> I suck at thinking of something creative just for the sake of creativity

>> No.11881510

Remember to keep up your daily activity as well. Too many people hit the gym and go running religiously, but spend the majority of their days slouched.

>> No.11881512

>>11880811
Instead of learning to play a game like Chess I'd recommend learning a sport properly. It's in my opinion useful in the same way learning a new language is. Loads of new connections in the brain. Even if you don't believe any of that shit it's by far the best way to get consistent exercise and actually really enjoy it. Being at coordinated, athletic and generally confident at moving your body has loads of other benefits too. If you're uncoordinated people can sense it in every step you take and you always give off an awkward vibe. Coordination in one sport will translate into at least basic coordination in all others as well.

Basketball is unreal and the constant feeling of improvement you get noticing yourself get better will motivate you to keep exercising and learning the game. Also a great way to meet people.

>> No.11881519

>>11881315
Creativity is pretty abstract and hard to measure so there's not as much research into improving it as general intelligence.

If you're desperate get a hobby where you get to practice creativity like drawing, a sport or a game. With drawing though most people end up spending the first few months just practicing fundamentals and how to make things actually look good so make sure you're putting effort into coming up with actually creative drawings at first even if you know they'll turn out looking terrible.

>> No.11882198

>>11881508
Maybe quitting medicine might help you. It's not a particularily intelligent, nor creative profession.

>> No.11882257

>>11880811

https://www.gwern.net/DNB-FAQ

>> No.11882359

>>11881512
One of the most interesting takes in these threads.

Btw if we were to maximize this concept, what is the physical activity that requires the biggest amount of coordination that you can think? (don't say dancing, I am too ugly for that)

>> No.11882364

>>11880811
i have chronic rhinosinusitis, allergies, get shit sleep due to nasal congestion which makes me feel like a zombie every day except one or two out of the week
how can sleepmaxx??

>> No.11882370

>>11882364
>nasal congestion

I have used Oxymetazoline for 5 years for this without any problem (just make sure to use it ONLY before sleeping otherwise your body develops Drug tolerance)

>> No.11882902

>>11880915
What is it?

>> No.11882961

>>11880811
What was so special about him that they only preserved his brain? Weren't there a bunch of guys working on the same stuff he was?

>> No.11883241

>>11880811
>creativity
You'll have a hard time getting anything besides snake oil for that one. Nonetheless, I consider myself naturally pretty creative, as do the people in my life. It's not due to some kind of innate talent, it's entirely due to the way I internalize information and also my tendency to just sit and zone out for hours. I get in moods where I cant get myself to do anything besides sit on the couch staring at the wall. Or I'll go for a walk. Either way, I start inventing stories to entertain myself.

Now, let me explain this more. This is something I've always done. As a kid I used to pace around the house dreaming up stories. When I got old enough they turned into walks. For the most part, they'd be derivatives of stuff I'd see in media. But every so often I'd find a novel enough idea that I'd be compelled to develop it for months. Up until I felt I milked it dry. I had outlets for these developments: i used to draw my own stick figure comics, I had piles and piles of those, then I started making shitty home lego movies, then I found pivot stickfigure animator.

More recently I've been writing short stories (fyi, I like to combine elements from lovecraft, Kafka, sci fi, and dream logic). But also, later in life I became interested in math and now I'm doing a PhD. The creative part of research, the part where you think about concepts in an attempt to make new theorems satisfies that same creative urge for story telling. I'm currently trying to strike out my own unique narrative in math.

Anyway, it's been stifled since two years ago when I got a phone that actually functions well with wifi, so i can just choose to be engaged with a phone instead of letting my mind wonder. I guess the point is, try just sitting alone for long periods of time and see what comes to mind. For example, if spaghetti started coming out of your nose right now, what would you do? Letting stupid random thoughts like that come to mind spurs the imagination. I do it constantly.

>> No.11883458

>>11883241
>it's been stifled since two years ago when I got a phone
Same but when I was 8 years old since my parents gifted me my first videogame lmao

>> No.11883633

>>11880811
One of the many things that are keeping me going towards my goals in life in general and in studies specifically is what I call "induced envy", I think about some people who used to be my rivals in school up to high school, or the ones i wanted to surpass or looked up to. I strictly think of only the ones from school and high school because it is important to not know how are they doing right now in life.
So what I do when procrastination hits me is tell myself : " Damn, X would have reached another level, while I'm still doing what I'm doing, I definitely need to do my best, I can't let people know or even feel that I didn't make it, because I know X would have definitely made it" ...

>> No.11883794

>>11883633
I did this for a while but it fucks you up when your "opponents" are better than you. But maybe that's just me setting unrealistic goals

>> No.11884355

>>11883794
Just don't be so competitive

>> No.11884463
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11884463

How to get rid of brain fog? I am sick of not using my full potential

>> No.11884476

>>11881315
image streaming

>> No.11884486

What's the consensus on Lion's Mane?

>> No.11884582

>>11884476
What's that?

>> No.11884735

>>11881315
Not sure what you asked for originally, but this is a legit advice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>> No.11884743

>>11884463
quit porno

>> No.11884747

>>11884463
Do you even do half of the things in the OP? It helps.

>> No.11885970

>>11884747
Just counted, I do a little more than half of it. Still got brain fog

>> No.11886302

>>11885970
Do them all then

>> No.11886625

>>11886302
I'll try

>> No.11887127

>>11884463
Brain fog is the normal state you retard

>> No.11887344

>>11881512
I notice BJJ or MMA people have amazing body control similar to gymnast or dancers but not on their level

>> No.11887354

>>11884463
I feel I have the same after smoking weed repetitively I have noticed that my perception of time has become null and it feels like my brain is clogged but I have been on my computer everyday so that might be it.

>> No.11888142

>>11887354
>smokes weed lmao
>complains about brain fog

>> No.11888240

>>11883241
>Now, let me explain this more. This is something I've always done. As a kid I used to pace around the house dreaming up stories. When I got old enough they turned into walks. For the most part, they'd be derivatives of stuff I'd see in media. But every so often I'd find a novel enough idea that I'd be compelled to develop it for months. Up until I felt I milked it dry. I had outlets for these developments: i used to draw my own stick figure comics, I had piles and piles of those, then I started making shitty home lego movies, then I found pivot stickfigure animator.
i used to do shit like this all the time when i was a kid. its actually kinda autistic now that i look back on it but it would keep me entertained for hours. although since ive matured that creative energy has been redirected to making music

>> No.11889331

>>11887127
No it isn't.
Magnesium deficiency causes widespread dysregulation and nutrient loss.
Copper deficiency blocks the synthesis of neurotransmitters and dopamine use.
Manganese deficiency results in dopamine receptor dysregulation (too many) and writing down memories.
Also manganese and copper are indispensable for burning energy, so you will feel tired, brain fogged, and likely get fat.
Generally, a lack of copper supresses analytic thought, as well as causes tunnel vision/perception in general. (your hearing may collapse into one channel)
Manganese supresses memory and "deeper" analysis.

>> No.11889503

Your gut microbiome has really strong neural connections to your brain. Some scientists say how you think and how good you can think heavily depends on the health of your guts microbiome.
So you should probably try and eat probiotic stuff, which will also improve your digestion obviously

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>>11889503
I just made this

>> No.11889730

>>11889704
That's great, how to use it? Eat as diversely as possible?

>> No.11890149

>>11889730
>Eat as diversely as possible?
Yes

>> No.11890833

>>11889704
Thanks for your service

>> No.11891054

>>11889503
>eat probiotic stuff
Like what?

>> No.11891666

>>11889503
No, probiotics aren't studied very well. Stick to prebiotics or pay to get poop shoved in you.

>> No.11891671

>>11883241
You could have grown into a wageslave where your fun stories and daydreams in your head turn into agonizing visualizations of the relaxations that await at home. All day long. All you can think about. Non stop. Then the second you get home, you shut your brain off by doing brain dead tasks to not think about waging the very next day.

This kills your brain. I don't work. I have brain fog. Forgot how to use my brain. Don't be me. Don't be a wageslave. The alcohol to stop the thoughts of work every night also doesn't help, neither does forcing yourself to stay awake in bed an extra 5 minutes every 5 minutes because you know the second you fall asleep it's over - the next day is beginning and you can't stop it.

>> No.11891699

>>11889331
You keep bringing up copper deficiencies but I never see you link any articles or try to describe the processes

>> No.11891734

>>11880811
>creativity
I suck at creating things from ground zero but often have extreme outside the box solutions to shit.
Just try to take some distance for the problem you face, check your material you have to face it and think of how to use even seemingly unrelated things in your environment to help you.

>> No.11891738

>>11891671
Why don't you just quit your job and find something else? Maybe even take a year off and see the world.

>> No.11891762

>>11880840
They are a very mild and subtle stimulant. I would describe it as feeling focused and ambitious but not tweaked out and euphoric like amphetamines. Chewed a big bag of leaves in Peru and drank a fair amount of mate de coca as well because coffee and energy drinks werent really cheap or readily available.

Pro tip- if you search "Delisse Mate de Coca Tea" you can probably find some somewhere for sale. In 2017 I bought some and it was legit. It's not really a "drug" like cocaine is if you consume it in it's natural form. It is only habit forming if you abuse it instead of using it the way it is meant to be consumed, in moderation

>> No.11891780

>>11891738
I've been off work for the past 8 months and accomplished nothing but video games. Brain rejects all work and anything that isn't just brain dead activities. I still read fantasy though, but it's just a big form of escapism.

>> No.11892414

>>11891780
Everything is a surrogate activity

>> No.11893363

>>11892414
What do you recommend me to do then?

>> No.11894161

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/07/418041/brain-benefits-exercise-can-be-gained-single-protein

How do I get ahold of this?

>> No.11894400

>>11894161
Sounds like pseudo crap to me

>> No.11894635

>>11894400
Sounds like maybe correlation could be causation

>> No.11895133

is there a reliable way to induce manic episodes in yourself?

>> No.11896075

>>11895133
Stop sleeping.

>> No.11896202

>>11895133
Why? And whatever your reasons are, don't

>> No.11896206

>>11895133
Take Phenibut. Medium to high doses for someone with no tolerance will produce hypomania/manic like states.

>> No.11896210

>>11895133
I wish you said that to my face so I could knock some sense into you, retard.

>> No.11897201

>>11896075
On the subject of sleep, you can sleep deeper by playing periodic bursts of pink noise apparently

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00109/full

>> No.11897206

>>11882359
Go learn Tennis

>> No.11897222

>>11889704
Why did you specifically put gorgonzola cheese in this food pyramid

>> No.11897721

>>11897222
Gorgonzola sauce

>> No.11897802

hahaha yeah retards keep recommending high fat animal based diets and skyroctet your blood pressure, block all your veins with cholesterol, cut off half of blood supply to your brain and keep getting even more retarded

>> No.11897938

>>11897222
it can be cottage cheese, hard cheese
i choosen moldy cheese, cause im not a pleb

>> No.11898676

>>11896202
I'm not content living a life of mediocrity but I have low IQ, poor discipline and nothing going for me

>>11896075
that was my first thought, a few years ago I had to go nearly a week getting only 3hour/day sleep and I felt amazing but it's just too temporary

>>11896210
yeah bro it totally sucks feeling great all the time having tons of motivation and ten times your usual energy. fuck you asshole if it was all mania all the time you'd love it and you know it

>> No.11899192

>>11898676
Still sounds like a bad idea

>> No.11899211

>>11895133
It's expensive as fuck, but rubidium chloride.

>> No.11899280

>>11880811
this general can only ever be trash since you won't get out of your lethargic brain fog rut without dropping this shithole. all the successful people will leave so you will have retards who think microdosing LSD is actually making them smarter when really they are just falling for their cravings. this place used to literally repulse me with its meniality and retardation before i got hooked on internet forums and ended up here where the speed and stupidness of the content actually makes for good and addicting consooming.

>> No.11899283

>>11898676
you'll feel good but mania is a mental illness for a reason. you won't be rational and you won't magically get smarter. you just fuck a bunch of shit up and destroy all your relationships and you will make everyone hate you as soon as they come into contact with you.

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>sleep
Arguably the most important aspect of all.

>meditation
..
>reading
..
>supplements
lion's mane, creatine, MD LSD, CBD
>physical exercise
..
>mental exercise
..
>diet
..
>dopamine sensitivity
..
>stress
acute, chronic
>..


i might expand later

>> No.11899342

>>11889704
shit chart, only eat meat

>> No.11899379

>>11889704
>no vegetables
absolute retard. at least eat a decently sized salad. theres nothing like squeezing out a large, dark, solid log instead of leaking out the greasy mush that this shit diet will get you.

>> No.11899399

>>11882359
I always felt like mountain running was a great mental exercise. Something about constantly having to place your weight and assessing how stable you'll be. Usually I feel mentally exhausted after a long run down a mountain.

>> No.11899412

>>11880811
>One thing I'd like to hear about is how to git good at creative thinking.

Schizophrenia

>> No.11899456

>>11899412
unironically this

>> No.11899718

>>11880811
Your brain can tune neural activity to certain shapes, if it's induced, and there's app for that, but it's probably used for brainwashing people.

>> No.11899787

Questions for anons:
>How much do you read per day?
>What book are you reading?
>How do you choose what to read?

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>>11899379
rice, oats, potatoes, schrooms and sauerkraut have fiber and more vitamins than 'vegetables'
salad is just sauerkraut, but without vitamin C and lactobacili

>> No.11900060

>>11899399
Based, I like to larp as an anprim hunter while running through the forest, jumping over trees and stones and watching every step knowing you could break your ankle if you don't land precisely is making me feel connected with nature in an awesome way

>> No.11900064

>>11899718
I have no idea what you are talking about, you have a link?

>> No.11900068

>>11899787
Good post.
>20 minutes (would like to read more though)
>currently Clean Code, I fell for the meme but I like it
>Goodreads, friends, specifically looking for books about a topic, /lit/

>> No.11900155

>>11900068
Are you reading right before bed or whenever you have free time?

>> No.11900372

>>11893363

You definitely need to detox from your PEDs and social media (inc. this forum). Maybe go camping for a week or 2, and take some books to meditate upon.

>> No.11900718

>>11900155
Usually after work with a nice cup of coffee. Too tired when I want to sleep, I used to read fiction in bed but I stopped without any reason actually

>> No.11901210

>>11900718
sounds baste

>> No.11901640
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With only a little bit of research I am somewhat convinced a big part of pattern recognition/iq is the ability to be completely neutral/non bias when learning and looking at new things.

Being able to turn off part of the brain that stores all your preconceived notions and be "hyper objective" when looking at a problem. Raven's matrices - I think that most people can't solve harder ones because they look at them and assume a pattern that they "think" should be there and can't break out of that bias. Someone with higher iq can see the individual pieces without any sort of bias holding them back allowing the correct pattern to "jump out." Of course, working memory also helps with connecting those pieces together better.

I've been trying to do more research on "cognitive inhibition and interference." So I assume that high iq's can tune out unimportant information (either on purpose or not) and simultaneously prevent interference from their biases. Can this way of thinking be learned even if it's not at the same speed as someone born with the ability? I'm not exactly sure where/what to read up on to learn more. Anyone have any idea. Found this but it's gonna be a slog at 500 pages.

>> No.11901747

I perform better on tests when I am sleep deprived

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>>11880811
>all those recommendations so that in the end you develop some kind of dementia and shit on yourself.

Talking from close experience

>> No.11902509

>>11901869
But what should you do?

>> No.11902789

>>11900718
I was considering picking up fiction before bed desu

>> No.11902799

>>11901640
Its called disengagement, no its extremely g loaded and probably more genetic than most other cognitive faculties. Think about the difference between someone who is naturally inclined to be like that and someone who wishes that they were in their late teens and 20's. You have no chance of competing with them. If you would like a simple method for increasing your intellectual competence, learn the subjects you take interest in thoroughly, obsessively and with reverence for those who have perfected the most important techniques. Focus on very specific domains of knowledge that you find cognitively demanding. You absolutely cannot train the whole of the components of higher reasoning from any one procedure or by directly targeting primitive substrates like processing speed or working memory. There is no evidence of domain transfer in the cog psyche literature. Just learn actual skills, learn them better than is demanded of the average professional.

>> No.11902866

Bros I just did another 2 hours of Mandarin practice. My tiny brain hurts.

>> No.11902930

>>11902866
Good work bro. Just make sure to keep language learning consistent every day.

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What is the consensus on CBD and Lion's Mane? Also, how damaging is microdosing LSD?

>> No.11903424

To the podcast anon from last thread: Did you listen to the "The Agricultural Revolution has been a disaster for the human race" episode yet? If yes, what do you think about it?

>> No.11904123

>>11902799
I mean you say "probably more genetic," but that's the thing. I want to do my due diligence and read up and come to that conclusion 100%. Doesn't seem to be covered very much and I currently don:t see why neuroplasticity can't change how your brain initially operates when it sees a new problem. I need to see the studies, research, theories, data, etc. I think this is a pretty specific ability. Someone said that the goal of meditation is "disengagement" or "ultra objectivity." Looking at a chair and not seeing a chair but individual routed and spindled wood pieces as you first reaction.

>> No.11905161

Why do these threads suck and have 0 discussion other than people looking for a magic pill that will make them einstein? Yeah, everyone knows sleep and being in shape is good for health and so is a good diet. This shit is retarded.

>> No.11905266

>>11880811
>>11881315
>>11881519
Want to boost creativity? Literally spend a little bit of time writing down ideas. Come up with an issue and write down as many possible solutions as possible, no matter how ridiculous. Just pump out A LOT of ideas and don't worry about if they'll actually work or not.

>> No.11905753

>>11905161
Why didn't you even read the thread before posting your wrong opinion

>> No.11906238

>>11903424
What's this about?

>> No.11906307

>>11904123
Not the guy you're responding to, but a lot of the difference in IQ between individuals is down to synaptic pruning if you weren't already aware. Higher IQ brains are more efficiently pruned and thus don't waste excess energy on thinking.

I wonder if part of this "disengagement" is having hardly any connections compared to a low IQ person and thus you don't get lost in the details. If there's some way to force the brain to prune in adulthood maybe that could work. Just spitballing really.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325155490_Diffusion_markers_of_dendritic_density_and_arborization_in_gray_matter_predict_differences_in_intelligence

>> No.11906399

>>11892414
Hi Ted!

>> No.11906481

>>11880811
>>microdosing shrooms/LSD
>>high fat
LARPing fatfuck autist troglodyte detected
Opinion discarded

>> No.11906499 [DELETED] 

>>11906307
No. That would only make you more schizo. It doesn't make you more intelligent, it makes it faster but limited in scope. High IQ people have enormous difficulty dealing with concepts that require integrating lots of data at once and often think about nonsense, because they have enormous difficulty figuring out which parts of the picture are relevant. They think fast, without much details.

>> No.11906503

>>11906307
No. That would only make you more schizo. It doesn't make you more intelligent, it makes your thoughts faster but limited in scope. People with strongly pruned brains have enormous difficulty dealing with concepts that require integrating lots of data at once and often think about nonsense, because they have enormous difficulty figuring out which parts of the picture are relevant. They think fast, without much details.

>> No.11906505

>>11906503
brainlet cope

>> No.11906507

>>11906505
No.

>> No.11906535

>>11884743
Pointless

>> No.11906551

>>11880811
>brain improvement
OK, so if you apply a layer of stem cells to the outside of the cortex, can you grow a new neo-neocortex?
Remember Einstein had some of the grooves "filled in" with nerve tissue.

>> No.11906615

>>11880811
would connecting and interfacing a CPU to my brain make me improve my cognitive ability?

>> No.11906630

>>11906238
Literally what the title says, why are you asking? It's really interesting imo

>> No.11906643

>>11906399
Hey anon! Can you, uuuh, get me out of here? You know I did prison workouts every day and I'm ripped af bro but I can't do this all alone. Sure, my 143 IQ has helped me developing a plan to escape but I'm not the best with computers, hacking the library PC to access this website was hard as fuck. I am good with pyrotechnics but that doesn't help me right now.

>> No.11906808

>>11906503
None of what you claimed is actually backed by science. Schizos actually have EXCESSIVE connections in the brain, muddling their thoughts, it's why there's a certain cross-over with creativity and mental illness in some people.

A more efficiently wired brain is a better brain, provided it's pruned in the correct regions and not in the wrong ones.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289615000562?via=ihub

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289616301180?via=ihub

>> No.11906849

All you need is books, ritalin, self-hatred, physical activity and a strict schedule.

>> No.11906869

>>11906808
No, autists have more, schizos have fewer.

>> No.11906872

>>11906808
Not him but pretty based.
So high iq people have more specialized pathways while retards have it jumbled in the sense that some information just goes down a pathway and but actually just gets lost and hence makes no contribution?

>> No.11906878

>>11906869
schizos have more than autists, probably. Autist probably lack diverse connections in areas where they actually interested.

>> No.11906894

>>11906878
Schizos experience excessive synaptic pruning, autists little to none.

>> No.11906909

>>11899881
>salad is just sauerkraut, but without vitamin C and lactobacili
Huh? Dark greens are quite high in vitamin c, cabbage not so much, sauerkraut even less so, likely because the vitamin c oxidizes during fermentation.

>> No.11906933

Domain transfer is not possible. Then what's the point of doing all this since you'll never be good at math or physics?

>> No.11906946

>>11880811
>One thing I'd like to hear about is how to git good at creative thinking.
Alpha waves. You almost want a lack of focus to encourage diffuse thinking. Supposedly certain types of meditation and aerobic exercise help to enter this brain state, but I can't really say from personal experience. I do think bimanual labor does something, possibly improving hemisphere communication in the short term. If I improvise on the piano, I can often find solutions to abstract puzzles that I was previously stuck on, but this effect doesn't seem to last for more than 30 minutes. Another weird trick is bilateral eye movements, which basically means looking left and right repeatedly for 30 seconds to a minute. I assume this works similarly to my piano example, but is more accessible and easier to perform.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277885892_The_impact_of_eye_movements_on_a_verbal_creativity_task
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2009/11/08/performing-horizontal-eye-movement-exercises-can-boost-your-creativity/

Sleep is important, and dopamine. Truly creative people seem to have a flood of ideas that they feel compelled to get out. The artist who is always drawing, painting, or playing an instrument, the coder who is constantly writing new programs. That almost seems to be something innate, but your best bet is find a creative task you enjoy which will at least draw your mind away from rigid thinking for a little while each day.

>> No.11907062

>>11906307
It's an interesting thought. I did also read about how brains lose the ability to prune and clean themselves as efficiently as they get older which is a big problem. It may be worth looking into.

>>11906808
This does make sense. If proper brain pruning can happen naturally for some, I don't see why you can't at least improve your own even by a little. If it's a process controlled through, from what I understand, chemical messengers that send some sort of cell to go "eat up the synapse" and then if it misses eating it up, another cell comes along and finishes the job. Its been awhile since I've read into brain cleaning.

>> No.11907084

>>11906933
Wrong - it's just not very well studied. Dual n back is pretty controversial. My opinion is that something like that teaches you a new way to think but it's still up to you to be able to apply that new way of thinking to the other skills, it's not an automatic process. Though, obviously the best way to learn something is to just do the thing. For me, I want to learn too many things because I have no direction, so just keeping myself "generally" improved is the best for now.

>> No.11907111

>>11907084
>so just keeping myself "generally" improved is the best for now.
Don't you think this attitude may not get you very far in life? I mean successful people have a goal in life. They strive to achive that goal and navigate different path in order to reach their destination.

>> No.11907125

>>11907084
>My opinion is that something like that teaches you a new way to think but it's still up to you to be able to apply that new way of thinking to the other skills,
The problem is identifying that way of thinking. There's people who practiced dual n-back religiously with very little to show for it, and others who experienced gains in other areas. The pattern of thinking during the task can vary considerably.

>> No.11907126

>>11907084
>y opinion is that something like that teaches you a new way to think but it's still up to you to be able to apply that new way of thinking to the other skills, it's not an automatic process
I understand your idea but hear me out. Being good at N back doesn't teach you new ways to solve the Rieman Conjecture. N back is a highly specialized subset of skills that have little to do with mathematics. I mean you can argue with cognitive skills, but I don't see doing well in N back can bring you any closer to a Genius who's on his treacherous journey to solve the famous problem.

>> No.11907160

>>11907126
Not the OP, but the argument I've seen is that some people drive up their N-Back scores with methods like chunking, whereas others learn to intuitively hold more information in their mind. The latter would potentially have more value in other tasks, the former would not. That hypothesis has been used for why some people experience benefits, and others don't, but is that really the case? I find Dual N-Back draining, to the point that it can interfere with other mental pursuits, so I've been unable to convince myself to stick with it long term. If there was a nearly guaranteed method of doing it and experiencing a cognitive benefit, then it may be worth it, but the meta analyses aren't encouraging.

>> No.11907192

>>11907160
>If there was a nearly guaranteed method of doing it and experiencing a cognitive benefit, then it may be worth it, but the meta analyses aren't encouraging.
That's kind of the issue with the methods in the original thread.
They don't seem proven in any way. I thoroughly appreciate the effort that everyone ITT has taken, but I just think that retards will be retards, whatever they do. They can substitute smart work for hard work and get ahead in life. But they sure as hell cannot compete with raw brain power.

t. retard

>> No.11907381

>>11907111
Sure, it isn't a good mindset, but it's the one I have right now. Without a goal it's better to do "something" than nothing.
>>11907125
Dual n back is just an example, but the best way is to try it out. Maybe it's a placebo, but a placebo effect is still a positive outcome if people "feel" they are thinking better. Confidence is just as important as anything else. Second guessing yourself constantly just slows you down.
>>11907126
I guess if you want to solve math problems then it isn't the best way. Though, a lot of people just want to be better at things in general in life. Even if it doesn't help with a specific skill it may help to teach yourself discipline in doing something difficult with your brain every day if you struggle concentrating and keeping a schedule. Same thing with a workout routine.

>> No.11907389

>>11907192
>They don't seem proven in any way.
I think improvements are possible, but more in terms of fine tuning the brain to get the most from it rather than overhauling it. I just haven't seen a lot of compelling evidence that adults can dramatically improve their intelligence. Neurogenesis doesn't seem to be capable of changing the basic structure of the brain in any significant way. For example, children who learn musical instruments at an early age show a greater increase in the size of their corpus callosum compared to their peers, and they maintain that advantage for the rest of their lives. Adult learners don't experience the same growth, rather, other areas of their brain do adapt in an effort to improve their bimanual coordination, but it seems like a less effective adaptive mechanism. We know dramatic changes are possible thanks to acquired savant syndrome after traumatic brain injuries, but that's a situation where structures are being destroyed and built back up due to a flooding of BDNF. Perhaps in the future we'll be able to harness that in a more controlled manner.

>> No.11907390

>>11880811
test

>> No.11907484

Anyone have any experience with phosphatidylserine? It looks like it is a chemical that helps cell signaling for pruning (which we were discussing earlier). Apparently researched for alzheimers, adhd, and improving memory function.

>> No.11907490

Lmao you are a bunch of brainlets falling for meme shit.

>> No.11907496

>>11907389
I thoroughly agree with your statements. A lot of geniuses have acquired their skills since a young age. Fortunately or unfortunately, their parents have been supportive and sometimes even their main motivating factor.

>>11907389
>Adult learners don't experience the same growth, rather, other areas of their brain do adapt in an effort to improve their bimanual coordination, but it seems like a less effective adaptive mechanism
And that is the exact problem. We as adults realize our childhood naivety only once we reach adulthood and by than its too late to actually bring about long lasting physical changes in our brains.

>> No.11907522

>>11907381
>Though, a lot of people just want to be better at things in general in life.
Some people have the exact tools required to complete their goals. Some people have the tools but have no goals. While other have goals but no tools. Some more, have neither. A significantly largest percentage have goals but no tools and vice versa. And they are the peak in the normal distribution curve.

>>11907381
>Even if it doesn't help with a specific skill it may help to teach yourself discipline in doing something difficult with your brain every day if you struggle concentrating and keeping a schedule
I find no motivation in undertaking it, if it brings me no appreciable results in areas that I most wish to see them in. And this can be said about most people.
Motivations are generally what drive people. But you got to see some results along the way, otherwise you'll get demotivated very easily.

>>11907381
>workout routine
A bit different but I've heard many people say that "a brain is just a muscle. Train it.". This is somewhat true but pretty disingenuous mostly in regards to how they both differ. For example genetic advantages, neural structures, neural density, environmental factors etc.

>> No.11907523

>>11907496
Nobody is expecting to become 200iq super geniuses. Even a little improvement is better than none. Playing an instrument later in life can prevent alzheimers and dementia, so clearly there's merit. Of course most growth occurs as a kid, but it's not like your body stops changing. Best to keep it in tip top form for as long as possible. Don't wanna be 80 years old in a wheelchair, alzheimers, nursing home, just waiting to die.

>> No.11907534
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Reposted from the last thread, wasn't me, just wanna read some (you)s, thoughts?

>eggs, onions, bacon
>beef/ pork/ fat fish
>potatoes/ brown rice
>tomatoes, beets, carrots
>beans, schrooms, spinach
>coconut, olive oil, lard
>oats, nuts (before sleep)
>fruits, jello (before workouts)
>pickled cucumbers, sauerkraut, olives (lactobacilli)
>moldy cheese, cottage cheese, sour cream, liver(sparingly)

>time under tension, drop sets
>ab wheel
>rotator cuff
>deadlift/ farmer walk
>atg, box squat/ lunges
>overhead press/ dips
>ring pull ups/ rows
>calve raises
>hammer curls
>wrist roller

>cardio, mobility
>boxing
>skipping rope
>running uphill
>dancing
>cycling
>rowing boat
>swimming
>wall climbing

>long warm shower before bed
>nettle shampoo, aloes body cream
>coconut conditioner, shave, floss
>electric toothbrush, tongue scraper
>night cream on face, hands and feet
>dark, quiet, humid, cold air (15-19C)
>growing mother-in-law's tongue next to bed
>30 min meditation with wim hof breathing
>sleep on back or left side
>7.5 hour SLEEP
>spreading toes, sun and moon salute
>hot to cold shower
>sunscreen moisturizer

>having a pet dog/ 2 parrots
>observing how others communicate
>setting goals that are related to your tasks
>learn new things that build on your existing knowledge
>write about what's on your mind, what's bothering you
>reward yourself as you complete an objective
>duo lingo russian/ german, mirror yells
>the kazachok he danced really wunderbar
>drumming, playing guitar, singing karaoke
>whistling, improvising, creating new music
>scetching common items in different positions
>using pictures/ recalling images from memory
>drawing emotional faces, shading 3d
>rehearse what you have learned


>no caffeine
>no headphones
>only POV vanila porn
>fleshlight, hipthrusts
>no inhaling with mouth
>no sugar, no white flour
>magic shrooms once a year
>no other recreational drugs
>belt, watch, necklace, dick ring
>nice hat, sunglasses and shoes

>> No.11907536

>>11907523
I don't think it's about life during your hoary years.
Everyone's goals need exacting tools in order to fulfill them.
It's more to do with your goals early in life. Unfulfillment can lead to depression.

>> No.11907544

>>11907534
>>nettle shampoo, aloes body cream
>night cream on face, hands and feet
>no headphones
>>only POV vanila porn
>>fleshlight, hipthrusts
>>no inhaling with mouth
>>no sugar, no white flour
>belt, watch, necklace, dick ring
>>nice hat, sunglasses and shoes
You honestly think these will change your neural structures?
I'm not making fun of you, just curious.

>> No.11907545

>>11907536
Goals don't matter when you're old and dying. The point is to be able to live life up until the very moment you die. Be able to get around and do things. If you're senile and forget about your goals you accomplished who cares? Even then let's say you can increase your overall intelligence by 1%, that's still better than nothing. And you get to learn some new skills and experience how differwnt supplements (or drugs) make you feel

>> No.11907554

>>11907545
That's not my point. Say you want to study math. You love math but you just heard that you need 45% intelligence in order to be a good mathematician while you're only 24. Do you think an increase by 1% or say 5% will help you achieve your dreams?

>> No.11907560

>>11907523
There's a difference between maintaining what you have, and improving on it, though. It's obvious that lifestyle choices can affect our brains as we age, but in terms of significant improvements, that seems to be wishful thinking. I play piano, I do so because I enjoy it, and if it protects my brain as I age then that's great, but I don't feel like it's given me any major cognitive advantage other than the rare occasion when I need my hands to perform different tasks at the same time. If you're going to start performing things that supposedly improve the brain, then it's best to choose something you enjoy and can see yourself pursuing for the rest of your life. If it works, you'll have a better brain, and if not, then you'll have still gained something. That's why I think something like learning an instrument or a language are preferable to DnB, because the time invested won't be wasted if they don't make you smarter.

>> No.11907598

>>11907554
>Do you think an increase by 1% or say 5% will help you achieve your dreams?
And to add to this, how much time are you taking to improve your intelligence by a small percentage? If it's taking hours every day, then arguably you'd be better off just studying math with that time.

>> No.11907621

>>11907598
>If it's taking hours every day
Unbeknownst to people, math takes a lot more time than a few days. So the university better apply someone who could come up with a solution in 1 year rather than someone who's still half way there.

>> No.11907789

>>11901640
be like AI with metacognition. think in your own programming language, start at high level, then understand lower levels. "recursive why", "load", "unload", "subtract factor", "add factor", "hook event", "unhook event", "temporary override function", "lookup", "query"
those are just high level examples, i have not figured out the lowest level commands.
you have to detach emotion from logic entirely because emotion is a SIDE EFFECT, not a factor.

>> No.11907858

>>11884463
find something to think about then think about it without using memory or bias unless necessary. brain fog is probably just "nothing to process consciously" mode. it should not be used as an excuse or you might not actually think.
here is question, what is a good theoretical replacement for a website like youtube, discord, 4chan etc? can all types of websites be combined?

>> No.11908089

I studied everyday and i just fucking hate people more and more they think im better than them in all ways and i am what do?

>> No.11908357

>>11907789
I'm not sure I understand.

>> No.11909072

How to get good at talking English as a foreigner? I have no problem with writing or reading something out loud but I can't talk in real time very well.

>> No.11909118

>>11880811
>brain improvement thread
>take drugs

>> No.11909125

>>11881315
You probably are creative, in how you solve problems

I take it you're talking about artistic creativity which doesn't seem to be something you can really control

But the grass is always greener. I'm incredibly talented creatively in art/music/etc. and I wish all the time I was more pragmatic, strategic, a mathematician, etc.

>> No.11909145

>>11881508
Planning is ranked higher up the intelligence spectrum than creativity.

>> No.11909317

>>11884463
sleep, less phone (less distractions)

Google decision fatigue/information fatigue

t. actual neuroscientist

>> No.11909318

>>11895133
ever tried meth?

pro tip: don't

>> No.11909321

>>11880811
>massive ADD
>self-treat with caffeine
>get prescribed addy
How addictive is Adderal, really? I don't want to fuck myself up in the long term.

>> No.11909322

>>11907544
Short answer, no

longer: confidence is good for the brain. less unhealthy stress DOES improve neural functionality.
fleshlight is bad for that, but otherwise most of it's good

>> No.11909474

>>11909072
Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice Practice

>> No.11909486

>>11907534
Good list bro but
>duo lingo russian/ german, mirror yells
?
Also, I think some caffeine is good for you.

>> No.11909994

>>11909072
>How to get good at talking English as a foreigner?
what exactly do you mean?
Do you want to practice an accent or are you unable to speak?

>> No.11910005

>>11909994
Not totally unable, but not good either. I can speak but I usually mess up some sentences and I sometimes take some time to think about wording. I just want to become a little better to not sound like a retard and I am honestly not that bad with written English

>> No.11910016

>>11910005
You need to practice your extempore speech.
Speak up with family. Find your friends and just go on and on.

>>11910005
>I sometimes take some time to think about wording
That's pretty fine. You obviously have a lot more time to think while writing or reading than while speaking, hence the difference. It's not abnormal. You're not retarded. It's just the way the mind works.
There are some apps that help you with your speech. But honestly, speaking face to face is the acme of practicing.

>> No.11910214

>>11910005
honestly, i never really spoke english, yet I am good at it. I listened to english youtube videos a lot!

>> No.11910411

>>11910214
>i never really spoke english, yet I am good at it
how would you know then?

>> No.11910426

>>11909317
Alright neuroscientist, end this thread right now then with your opinion.

>> No.11910490

>>11880811
>> physical exercise (HIIT, endurance, lifting, ...)
I've been lifting for a while now and I have been making obvious genes thanks to being blessed with fast muscle building (and unfortunately withering) genetics. I don't get how this is a mental improvement though, because ever since I started I've been feeling extraordinarily stupid. I don't think I'm necessarily more stupid but I've had brain fog for weeks now, and I never really think about anything except playing runescape. How do I stop being stupid as a result of me trying to better myself?

>> No.11910710

>>11909317
How's life in neuroscience? I dipped my toes during my bachelor but never commited.

>> No.11910796

>>11910490
making obvious gains*
necessarily stupider*
I didn't have time to correct myself I had to go outside and feed a hedgehog

>> No.11911168

How do I get good in the vocab section of the GRE? My quant is pretty good. But I'm a fucking brainlet in vocab.

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>>11911168
Now please don't give me archaic 'practice more' advice. I've been practicing and practicing. My English is good. English is my native language although I'm not a native English speaker.
I just finished solving 24 verbal questions. Out of them, 8 were correct.

>> No.11911259

>>11880811
Is there a way to increase G by adding processing power to our BCIs?

>> No.11911882

>>11911168
anyone?

>> No.11911910

>>11911259
You can't increase g for fuck's sake, why does no one bother looking up the fucking wikipedia page for factor analysis. There is no quantity 'g' that you can select for you fucking retard.

>> No.11912178

>>11907789
it seems like you're trying to understand cognitive phenomenon within the context of computer syntax? I don't think that will make you more intelligent, just more familiar with computer syntax.
>you have to detach emotion from logic entirely because emotion is a SIDE EFFECT, not a factor.
I'm skeptical

>> No.11912277

How to increase test and will it improve brain performance?

>> No.11912455

>>11911910
>semantics argument
let me guess, you're fine with a stupid questions that "determines IQ" because they're not worded well but you by chance had the same way of thinking of the retard who made the question

>> No.11912461

>>11912455
I don't think iq is predictive of anything beyond 2 SD and even then have doubts about how informative it is for sifting through talent of marginally different iq. What is clear and should be respected is that significant differences on cognitive tests like iq tests probably do predict diferences in performance in complex tasks like in science and mathematics and definitely explain much of the differences in technological and economic development between nations. I don't prize intelligence over other traits, and I wouldn't hate someone for being low iq. You cannot however raise g as it is a general factor, its not something that exists on a scale. Other factors correlate with this one factor, and the more g loaded a task the more it would predict performance on other g loaded tasks. Spearman invented this to explain why it was that people could perform well on English or History exams and also excelled at mathematics.

>> No.11912468

>>11912455
I'm not even arguing that you can't alter intelligence past puberty, while I don't think that this is in general feasible it is not the point. You just don't seem to understand that g factor is not a score, its an artifact of factor analysis and is used to bind together performance in other arenas of cognitive function like verbal or spatial memory which "load" onto the general factor. The idea is that there is a general intelligence, a trait that explains the nature of human memory, planning, pattern recognition, abstract reasoning, processing speed and the other associated but seemingly disconnected faculties people attribute to the "intelligent". IQ tests are designed to incorporate multiple highly g loaded tests, or tests that correlate strongly with one another in terms of performance and so ultimately correlate with g factor. That was the point of the post, nothing more or less.

>> No.11912601

>>11880811
Read this, lurking newfags. I'll teach you how to determine baiting and/or retards.
This was my question:>>11911259
This is how the faggot answered:>>11911910
it's clearly an argument over his interpretation of what I said (which means that the moment I mean something different than what he interpreted he's already wrong, since I wrote it) as I said in >>11912455

>>11912461
>>11912468
fag ignores my last response and continues on his roll.

The obvious interpretation of G was not the actual number in of itself, but general cognitive ability, yet he still keeps going at it. He is committing pilpul at this point

>> No.11913192

>>11910490
Lmao I'm actually 100% in the same boat. Been working out again and want to do stuff with myself in quarantine but just sit down and play runescape for hours (just started again two months ago).

>> No.11913224

>>11880811
wsh bg

>> No.11913230

Is there any evidence for ginkgo biloba? My mother swears by it.

>> No.11913892

>>11913224
speak english

>> No.11914311

Is cerebrolysin any good?

>> No.11914586

is it physically possible to study for 8 hours and retain info? i struggle to learn after hour 3 of anything

>> No.11914829

>>11896075
seconding this

>> No.11915157
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11915157

Over the past weeks I taught myself to record hypnosis audios and I must say this works surprisingly well. I really fall into trance which is stunning.
Can someone more experienced please share good resources to improve further? Could be books, videos articles anything that helps me get better.

>> No.11915258

>>11914586
It is physically possible to study for 15 minutes and retain that very information for for long period of time. There's nothing super human in this.

I needed to study about how Intel 8086 works in general for my exams. My book was dogshit and everything went over my head. I turned to YT in the hopes that I may at least have a superficially understanding of it (something is better than nothing right?). I found a video by an Indian guy. (This is the one if you're interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwOSdwzZ3E).). I still remember exactly how it works even today. The key is to not dump stuff in your brain, but rather create logical pathways such that when you wish to recall something, you don't brute force your way but follow the created pathway. This long spirally comment basically means that understand what you learn and use logic to understand it. Don't learn for the sake of learning. Our brains are particularly good at sieving information. Which is why emotional experiences are carved into you but fleeting experiences tend to be forgotten rather quickly (In simpler terms you probably remember that one bad day in high school but fail to remember your experiences the day before).

Long story short, learn with a logical standpoint and understand what's happening. Don't be afraid to ask why and how. That's the way in which the information that you so seek to learn will be carved in you.

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is loud, hard, repetitive music bad for your brain?

>> No.11915445

>>11907545
That's not true bro... You can hand your unfinished goals off to the younger generations if you're dying. Like the passing of the torch- to something new, that might take it in a different direction, but there's nothing to be lost by planting your ideas in other peoples minds on the way out.

Who knows- maybe reincarnation is real and you'll be born into a world later on where your goal you passed on was completed by someone else, and you'll reap what you sowed in your past life.

Regardless, it gives you legacy and your descendants will thank you for it.

>> No.11915905

>>11880811
Does creatine helps you in any way ?

>> No.11915913

>>11880811
What about Semax & modafinil?
Modafinil especially in the context of motivation, not making you smarter

>> No.11915917

>>11891671
I know that feel

>> No.11915919

wtf is dual n back and how do I get it

>> No.11915942

>>11915919
https://brainscale.net/dual-n-back/training
create an account and start easy.

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Maybe I'm retarded just for asking but "vegan nootropics" are probably a load of shit, right?
>Anhydrous caffeine
>L-theanine
>Magnesium gluconate
>Bacopin
>Lion's mane mushroom
Please, I just want to study math better.

>> No.11916056

>>11915990
L-Theanine is good at the things it is supposed to be good at: reducing the buzz from coffee and reducing your adverse reaction to stress.
Can't talk about these from a nootropic point of view, but both magnesium and st. Johns wort worked great at reducing mild-to-medium anxiety for me, so if thats your issues look into it.
But for plant based shit in general your own research is necessary, since big pharma has no interest in funding big, expensive studies into it for obvious reasons

>> No.11916110

>>11880811
Is piracetam a meme? I used that for a while and it worked wonders, I'm usually a procrastinating guy buy it noticeably helped me to get shit done after a couple months of use.

>> No.11916128

>>11916110
You probably did not unlock hoodwinked intellectual powers. You were just able to achieve greater efficiency.

>> No.11916140

>>11916128
Yeah, I wasn't implying it 'overclocks' your brain or anything, but my short/long term memory did improve, and I wasn't struggling to focus and get tasks done while I was using it, other nootropics probably work even better, considering piracetam is really mild. Maybe it just helps a small amount of people who need a little bit of memory improvement and focus.

>> No.11916214

>Meditation
How does one meditate? Are you supposed to just close your eyes and think? Or is it like in cartoons were you have to sit cross legged and say om?
>Hypnosis
Literally what

>> No.11916240

>>11916214
>Or is it like in cartoons were you have to sit cross legged and say om?
Up to you. Chanting 'Om' is the Hindu/Indian way of meditating.
>>11916214
>How does one meditate? Are you supposed to just close your eyes and think?
Yes and no. You're supposed to forget your past and achieve a peaceful mind.

>>11916214
>Literally what
Yes, it's fake.

>> No.11916252

>>11916240
Is there a guide? I have no idea of how to meditate or what to do.

>> No.11916277

>>11916252
Google stuff.
https://www.nytimes.com/guides/well/how-to-meditate
This seems pretty good.

>> No.11916285

>go on /x/
>tells me to meditate
>go on /sci/
>tells me to meditate
well then.

>> No.11916422

>>11915990
Theanine is good, magnesium is essential.

>> No.11916692

is 15 or 20 minutes adequate for meditation? after the 15 minute mark i start to get really restless

>> No.11917065

>>11916285
>go on /x/
Stopped right there.
Go back to >>>/x/

>> No.11917280

>>11917065
i'm a man of science with slight mental issues though.

>> No.11917544

>>11915942
thanks, this is better than those brain training apps

>> No.11917574

do you fast right?

>> No.11917633

>>11896206
calling bs on this one

>> No.11918179

>>11917544
Why

>> No.11918477

>>11918179
OP here, that websites gives you a lot more customization than just regular apps.

>> No.11918811

>>11918477
Shit I wanted to reply to >>11917633 not you, sorry

>> No.11918831

>>11880811
https://yuki.la/x/23595380

Do this if you want super brain speed and concentration

>> No.11919101

>>11918831
>/x/
i could solve a cube in 30 seconds but barely passed calc 3 idk if those skills were transferable

>> No.11919710

After years of researched I've compiled a no nonsense routine that will give you a super humanly fast high speed brain. If you follow this regime your mind will simply operate on a whole another level, you'll have matrix reflexes, be able to process large chunks of information in seconds, laser focus, sharp as shit wit, and a crisp vivid memory beyond what you thought possible. If you're shit at your job, following this will probably make you a top performer. No magic, just hard work.
Here's the routine:
1. Dual N Back software (20 minutes) Quick to learn, Get good at it and work your way up 20 level Quad N Back.
2. Juggling (15 minutes) - Work your way up to being able to juggle 4 balls in each hand.
3. Coin catch (15 minutes) - An old boxing training method, get to the point were you can toss 5 in the air and catch them before they get below your waist.
4.Dodging balls/punches ( 15 minutes) - Draw a 5 feet circle around yourself and try not leave it while dodging. The point is rely as little on footwork and strategy as possible while emphasizing instinct, reflex, and, will as much as possible. When you get good enough...do it blindfolded.
5. Meditation/prayer (20 minutes) - it can be any sort of meditation. Present awareness meditation would probably be most ideal
6. Mental Multiplication (20 minutes) - start with DOUBLE DIGITS, be relaxed and focus. This part is very difficult which is also build mental toughness and as well as mathematic and concentration ability
Lastly, watch Bioneers video spider sense and and apply his tips/execises into your life.
https://youtu.be/62LtTSZqS28

>> No.11919793

>>11919710
>1. Dual N Back software (20 minutes) Quick to learn, Get good at it and work your way up 20 level Quad N Back.
Does domain transfer work in this case?

>> No.11919808

>>11919793
No, it works in exactly zero cases. The architecture of intelligence is genetic, innate and determined at conception, you will never do more than very modestly round out some of the rough edges in a few components of you cognitive faculties by training. If you are older than 17 this is even less effective. Entire thread is disturbing cope and a waste of time, you could be learning actual skills instead.

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>>11919808

>> No.11920333

Where can I buy 4-Fluoromethamphetamine with my bank account and routing number?

>> No.11920355

>>11919833
>You could be learning actual skills instead
Do you understand what I am encouraging you to do? This includes physical and social activities unrelated to autistic self-learning.

>> No.11920419

>>11920355
no lol

>> No.11920734

>>11919808
Wrong. A portion is genetic but most haven't nurtured to their total potential. Brains adapt and change and improve. Certain intelligences increase well into late life. "Facial/emotional" intelligence increases into your 50's. That is the ability to remember people and facial emotions. Clearly intelligence and the brain is not fully understood. You'll be coping real hard if they do end up finding a concrete way to increase iq (which hasn't been ruled out at all).

>> No.11920738

>>11919710
The guy who made that is a schizo and didn't even do the routine himself. It's bullshit

>> No.11920772

welp, i have a fucked up sleep schedule and i've had one for a while
i'm tired of that shit and i'm going to try that interrupted biphasic sleep shit
>get table
>go to bed at 8, wake up around 11
>read and do shit by my side until 2
>probably struggle at sleeping for 2 hours
>sleep until whenever
repeat i'll tell you the results

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>>11916056
A shame there's nothing like nzt. So far everything's pretty mediocre as far as enhancement's concerned.

>> No.11921246

>>11920355
>Do you understand what I am encouraging you to do?
Yeah sure. But if you're fucking autistic, high iq guy would've already learnt it and that too faster than you. Who the fuck is gonna hire me then?

>> No.11921531

>>11911882
learn latin and greek. learn etymology

>> No.11921574

>working memory relevant
https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/new-research-offers-explanation-for-why-improving-working-memory-function-can-increase-anxiety-57410/amp
Why would scientists study this, if supposedly, working memory improvements don't transfer domains? So can working memory be trained in a specific domain? If not, then why did anxiety increase in the trained group?

>G relevant
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-mri-scans-brains-mammals-humans.amp
What do the compensations to connectivity made by the brain do to intelligence? If connectivity isn't the biggest part of efficiency and intelligence and neither is brain size (to a certain extent when compared to body size), what exactly is?
Maybe there's some hope yet for brainlets.

>> No.11922430

Bump

>> No.11922828

>>11881315
Meditate for at least 20 minutes, then absorb as much content as you can about the subject you want to have ideas for, then do something that doesn't require thinking and let the ideas flow. The idea behind it is: meditation stops whatever thought processes you had before (if done correctly), getting content loads information into your brain networks that will work in the background to generate ideas, doing something else frees those networks to do their job. Its called loading and this is the only way besides random word generation or freewriting that I can think of to generate ideas and be more creative.

>> No.11922831

>>11922828
Also, I forgot to mention: record any ideas you have (even small ones) but don't dwell on them, just go back to what you were doing. The reason is: you want to keep novel ideas coming and not focus on a single idea. Obviously if you get a big idea you don't want to let that out of your mind for a moment but those are more rare anyway

>> No.11923056

>>11922831
>>11922828
Meditation is a meme to sell courses, books, and meditation apps.

>> No.11923106

>>11923056
theres like thousands or tens of thousands of studies that extremely disagree with that

>> No.11923162

>>11923106
Studies paid for by big meditation.

>> No.11923212

>>11923162
>Studies paid for by big meditation.
Yes, meditation is a trillion dollar industry.

>> No.11923238

>>11923212
1.2 billion dollar industry actually.

>> No.11923245

>>11923238
Which is nothing when compared to something like agriculture, which actually is a trillion dollar industry.

>> No.11923251

I've found keeping a dream log has kept me more alert during sleep. So I'm nearly at 100% me 24/7. It's a lot of work though with over 800 dreams recorded.

>> No.11923412

>>11923162
lol nice

>> No.11924056

day 1 of biphasic sleep:
went to bed at 8, woke up at around 11. felt like utter shit for the first half hour but had a huge burst of energy and motivation.
went back to bed at around 4 and overslept until 11.
goal is to do it again, going to bed around 8, chilling out for an hour, waking up around 12, going to bed again at 3

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>>11880811
I've taken lots of caffeine through the years and I'd stay its worth it. Sadly as the years pass I feel it has a lower and lower effect, to the point I need 1 litter coffee to achieve the same "bullet time" level of thinking I used to get with one cup as a teen.

I don't regret it, but I think its time I take something stronger. Lately the act of avoiding coffee causes physical pain so being put on a situation where I can't access it for extended periods would certainly be a disadvantage.

>> No.11925737

>>11907534

>mother in laws tongue?

What the fuck is this supposed to do?

>> No.11926198

>>11898676
>I'm not content living a life of mediocrity but I have low IQ, poor discipline and nothing going for me
If you make yourself manic you'll still have low IQ, poor discipline and nothing going for you, just manic.

>> No.11926308

>>11924318
tolerance buildup, just take a few weeks of no caffeine to lowered amounts like tea

>> No.11926313

>>11924318

I had a pretty strong coffee tolerance. Went cold turkey on caffeine for a month (not even black tea). That pretty much reset it back.

>> No.11928259

whole foods plant based diet and the complete elimination of meat and dairy.

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>>11881315
be Ne so you generate ideas constantly

>> No.11928267

>>11889704

this is one of the worst food charts ive ever seen.

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>>11928264
For instance for this one pic I posted, several ideas instantly got generated when I just looked at it and more now

>what would it look like if the death star blew up with the planet
>would be hilarious if its hollow all the way through and the DS can just retreat and pop out the other side
>imagine the planet moves and the DS stays stationary within it so its a killer moving planet the Empire has now
>waterfalls over the edge would be cool
>scenario of rebel fleet jumps in to destroy the dish before its inserted and imperial navy has to stop them
>scenario of rebel saboteurs having to destroy the DS before it leaves the planet and thus blow up the planet as well
>scenario of a massive, months long all out battle across the surface of the death star and laser dish
>scenario where rebel alliances launches a last ditch desperate gamble to destroy the death star before it can be completed and be unleashed, but its a hollow shell and the rebels were duped as the real fully armed and operational Death Star enters the system
>space battle in this setting would be so cool
>maybe there is a massive physical shield that encircles the opening and protects the DS if threatened
>standing at the edge and rappelling down would be fucking cool
>non-Star Wars scenario- human exploration fleet stumbles upon a strange planet, they approach it and this is what they see....

and now I'm bored

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>>11928295
>Death star

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>>11928295
>fiction

>> No.11928954

>>11881315
image streaming, I told you faggot

>> No.11929059

>>11928954
Elaborate

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>>11928736
>>11928711
Creativity works best when its directed towards something you are interested in, that was just one example.

Another endless source of creativity is coming up with alternate history scenarios, like what if Rome never bested Carthage, what if Ceaser was never assassinated, what if D-Day was a failure or if Operation Sea Lion commenced before US could reinforce Britain, what if WWI went on for many years longer, exhausting Europe spiritually, economically and militarily, what if Rome discovered the New World in the age of the Republic

Also combining alternate history with alternate reality is fun too
>imagine Venus is Earth-like and ripe for the taking, the rush to colonize and settle a new world in the 1960's
>what if Earth had a ring system
>space war between humans from Earth and Venusians

Or futuristic speculation
>future where Mars, Earth and Venus are terraformed and the inner solar system is totally populated by humans
>future where human presence dominates in the solar system from Mercury research stations out to Oort cloud experimental classified R&D facilities and everything in between with many terraformed Earthlike worlds and moons

You dont even need to go to deeply into these, better to come up with lots of ideas than to focus deeply on just a few imo

>> No.11929138

>>11929129
>Creativity works best when its directed towards something you are interested in, that was just one example.
Never denied.

>> No.11929177

>>11929059
>faggot (noun)
It means you enjoy the taste of sperm you retarded mongreloid

>> No.11929218

>>11929129
And then dont be afraid to push your creative boundaries by going really crazy and nonsensical and come up with crazy shit and throw realism and logic out the window for the sake of novel ideas

>humans terraformed Jupiter
>magic space travel
>bored humans collect and smash all the moons of the solar system together to form a new planet, then terraform it
>spaceship that can submerge into the sun and travel inside
>blame! Megastructure that totally envelops the entire solar system within its shell without disturbing the planets orbits
>neutrinos suddenly become a lot more visible and physical
>space is replaced by a literal earthlike atmosphere but everything still functions the same somehow
>rain and clouds in space, because why not
>no Roche limit so all the planets are 10x closer together
>pointing your telescopes at a black hole makes it attracted towards your location and it starts slowly moving there
>icebergs in space which hide their true size in a different dimension
>Mars is a literal rust planet that causes anything metal sent there to decay and rust quickly
>landing on Europa just takes you to Europe
>Saturns rings working like vynil records
>

>> No.11929436

>>11880811
I just read someone say that Romans used to do this thing where they read with only one eye for a few months and then switched to the other eye for another few months to train both eyes and the brain for better reading abilities.
Anyone know any research done on this?
I read that this is how they treat "lazy eye" by using an eye patch to train the weaker eye.
I think it works by creating a stronger nerve connection between the eye and brain and also between each hemisphere of the brain to make up for the lack of input from the other eye.
Thoughts?

>> No.11929508

>>11881315
alcohol

>> No.11929550

>>11924056
biphasic sleep is dumb as fuck and has is unsuitable for the modern world unless you're doing global communications and need to factor in time zones.

>> No.11929589

>>11907789
I taught myself to do that starting with object association.

First you find an object and attach a concept to it. For example you get a stone and as you hold it you really work on perceiving every part of it as you bite into some chocolate. Then you split your focus between the stone and the chocolate. Experiencing both fully and intermingling the experiences. Later hold the stone again and invoke the sensation of eating chocolate. It is actually quite strong if you do it right. Although it can run out of associative "charge" if you try to use it as a counteragent to a different sensation, like eating broccoli, as it will result in building associations with that thing instead of the original chocolate.

From there you can develop more complex associative triggers like a bracelet that makes you hungry if worn on one wrist and reduces hunger if worn on the other, a song for when you need to work out, or a ring that sharpens your focus.

From there you can start stepping into further abstractions so you can build mental frameworks that you can trigger with different thought patterns. Like if I get a injured I trigger a recovery thought pattern that suppresses my responsiveness to pain and emotionality, while enhancing my clarity of thought and deciveness. Or a mental rerouting trigger that is activated during migraines to reduce stress on thought processes that induce pain but still do what I need, like translating kinesthetics to number sense.

Do be careful though. If you fuck with your architecture of association too much you can kinda break some motivation pathways and it will take awhile to unfuck yourself. It can be subtle too. It took me months to realize I'd attached my motivation so strongly to a ritual I'd made that I was basically becoming a useless depressed blob without it. Deprogrammed that as fast as possible

>> No.11930351

>>11906808
It's not just connections but excessive DMN activity that is correlated, well meditation has been shown to lower DMN activity as a trait feature, over time with enough practice, leading to less mind wandering and getting off track. Which means excessive connections in creatives can remain leading to stable creativity and discursive thinking that can be honed and focused in the creative pursuit when required, due to the increased self-regulatory nature of the brain brought about by increased executive functioning control which has also been shown to increase in meditators, even within just 8 weeks of daily meditation.

Read this https://getpocket.com/explore/item/one-skeptical-scientist-s-mindfulness-journey?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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>Start supplementing Zinc & Selenium
>Dreams become ultra HD
>Could barely get through the most basic math before. Now I get through it at good pace
>Focus ability increased

Fuck me, I've missed out on so many mental gains over the years by missing out on Zinc until now

>> No.11931151

Supplementation without early routine blood tests is unwise.

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>>11929129
>Creativity

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Anyone read pic related? I am only a few pages in, but for now I like where it is going

>> No.11931543

Is it possible to recover my cognitive ability?
i'm early 30 and i have been neet for almost 10 years and i can feel that my memory and attention has declined, i have difficulties remembering names.
btw i never had good attention cuz ADHA

>> No.11931557

>>11931543
Muscles not used atrophy.
Start learning now.

>> No.11931564

>>11931543
Attention can be trained, and that will improve memory, especially in those with ADHD.

>> No.11931574

>>11931564
>attention will improve memory
Why do you think this?
>>11931557
>Neural connections are like muscles
Why do you think this lol

>> No.11931585

>>11931557
>>11931564
What is weird is that i can remember facts and faces just fine, its just names that i find hard to recall, sometimes i forget them right after using them.

do u think its related to my neetdome and the fact that i don't talk to people irl?

>> No.11931605

>>11882961
Einstein is far from the only genius to have his brain and/or skull stolen and/or preserved.

>> No.11931610

>>11931574
>>Neural connections are like muscles
>Why do you think this lol
Because they are in many ways. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebbian_theory
>>11931585
Maybe. Who cares why it has happened? Start now and improve your life.

>> No.11931634

>>11931574
Training attention improves working memory, I suspect that's why some people make great gains with dual n-back and other's don't. You're not increasing the number of "slots" so to speak, you're just improving your ability to stay focused, which prevents junk from hogging your attention. Someone who's severely deficient at the start should have more room to improve.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23184506/

I'd expect long term retention to improve as well if you're able to stay focused on the topic at hand. If the mind wanders, recall is impaired.

>>11931585
>its just names that i find hard to recall, sometimes i forget them right after using them.
Is this with new people/names, or do you forget the names of even friends and family members?

>> No.11931658

>>11931634
>Is this with new people/names
Mostly sometimes name of things
>do you forget the names of even friends and family members?
no

>> No.11931671

>>11931634
I also think about multiple things at once, which i guess affects my attention