/sci/ - Science & Math

This is not the type of problem solved by scientists, it’s an engineering project

>>11890247
>science and mathematics board
>engineering is not mathematiks lel wahh wahhh wahhh
Fucking autistic retard.

>>11890247
Doubt the engineers had the freedom to speak up against anything they saw that would delay construction in favor of safety and longevity. Political hubris is what will ultimately be the cause of the Three Gorges Dam collapse.

>>11890241
Is this an imminent problem?
If it is, it would be a political problem, and no scientist has ever cracked that one. See Challenger disaster.

>>11890283
If you consider it having like a 90% probability of collapsing between the middle and end of July to be an imminent problem I guess...

It won't collapse, China is going soon to be the first economy of the world, and it's also possible Trump won't win.
Deal with it.

>>11890285
I don't think even the Chinese are capable of such an monumental fuck up, but it would serve them right if they were.

>>11890300
What are you talking about? What does it have to do with the Chinese? There hasn't been rains like this in the region for over 400 years. It's literally destroyed 400 year old bridges and we're not even halfway through their wet season yet.
It's like blaming the Russians for an asteroid slamming into the Kremlin and destroying it. This is freak weather anomaly shit that is about to collapse the TGD.

>>11890241
The engineering report on the three gorges dam has never been signed off...tells you a lot

>>11890306
>This is freak weather anomaly shit
I know eh!!! Who could have possibly foreseen such an event?!?! Definitely not a fanatical fucking growth monger megalomaniac, that's for sure.

WOMP WOMP

>>11890306
Any evidence of HAARAP?

>>11890316
To be fair very few dams or structural projects are built with the idea that freak 'once in a thousand years' weather events will occur and cripple it.
I think you'd be quite shocked at just how vulnerable most of the world's population and infrastructre is to natural disasters.
The entire eastern coast of the US for example will get obliterated by a tsuanami (all major east coast cities gone) when that crumbling volcano in the Canary Islands finally falls into the sea.

>>11890324
No idea what that is but probably. Check out the TGD general on /pol/. It's like 25m away from hitting maximum hold capacity at which it's basically going to buckle. It was 75m away like a fucking week or two ago.

>>11890285
According to /pol/? Give some evidence

>>11890241
It'll be absolutely fine

>>11890285
>90%, July
>source: my ass

>>11890328
Don't worry, I think western market worshippers are just as idiotic. The idea that we should attempt to try and monopolize as much energy as possible for our own purposes is the ultimate hubris. Our time will come!

Although, it's fitting that it's happening there now, since, in terms of monopolizing the Earth's energy, the three gorges dam is a recent prime example of 'getting greedy' or 'pushing our luck' so to speak.

>>11890324
*HAARP

nothings going to happen. its just poltards declaring HABBENINGS over sensational articles and/or tweets as usual, and in their addiction to 4chan and habbenings they decided one general on /pol/ wasn't producing enough content to consume so they brought their cancer over to /sci/

>>11890337
China has been having heavy rains recently and the Epoch times said they're going to destroy the three gorges, citing how squiggly it looks in google maps because they're either willfully spreading misinformation or literally retarded

>>11890928
>willfully spreading misinformation
it's this as usual, to a retarded audience.

>>11890955
I'd be inclined to agree if I wasn't exposed to enough stupidity to plant the seed of doubt

>>11890241
My wildlife science is causing it to collapse. Myself and other ecologists have been gathering in secret with Mongolian magicians to pray and perform rituals that will lead to the collapse as revenge for the Yangtze dolphins

>>11890306
The Chinese originally bragged that it could handle the largest flood in 10,000 years so it should be able to easily handle a 400 year peak flood. Then they revised it to a 1000 year flood and then a 100 year flood, which is a ridiculously high level of risk allowed for such a large project with very high consequences for failure.

>>11890241
build a second dam?

>>11890928
The weird thing is that the CCP instead of saying that the squiggly image was due to artifacts in satellite imaging, they said the deformation was ok because the concrete has a degree of flexibility.

>>11891225
Depending on which image you view, the squigglyness is different:
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Three_Gorges_Dam&params=30_49_23_N_111_00_12_E_dim:3000_region:CN-42_type:landmark
This cannot be good.

>>11890346
>>11890928
It’s not quite nothing, there are historic levels of flooding that have already left 92 cities and towns underwater.

The CCP is still in control, they are evacuating flooding areas, so far no recorded deaths, the dam is still 150m out of its 175m capacity, it’s not in any immediate danger of collapse and will probably hold up fine.

But the situation is already bad enough that they are having to balance between increasing discharge from the dam flooding villages downstream, or letting the water level before the dam rise and flooding villages upstream.

Something like 30 million people are at risk of flooding, it’s far, far from being nothing just because they’re in another country very far away. Although yes of course /pol/ is way overdramatizing it.

>>11891291
I'm not saying it's nothing, I'm saying internet retards took a nugget of truth and ran a marathon with it.
I will admit I'm morbidly curious about what Three Gorges overtopping would look like.

>>11891296
>I will admit I'm morbidly curious about what Three Gorges overtopping would look like.
The greatest rekt video since the Enola Gay filmreels

>>11890241
Retards on pol think a solid fucking damn could collapse because its flood season or whatever

>>11891377
Well its a Chinese dam, so i'd give it a bigger chance of happening, pol retardness and all

>>11891377

>In June 2020, the Ministry of Water Resources of the People's Republic of China officially warned of possible floods in the lower Yangtze region due to strong rainfall that summer[14]; moreover, Ye Jianchun, head of the Ministry of Water Resources, took the rare step of warning of a possible “black swan event” without specifically referring to the Three Gorges Dam[2]

wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam_collapse_controversy

>>11891410
>warned of possible floods in the lower Yangtze region due to strong rainfall

Yeah retard, its called flooding. Do you think dams hold unlimited water?

>>11891377
>Retards on pol think a solid fucking damn could collapse because its flood season or whatever
Umm, what?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Banqiao_Dam_failure

>>11891426
Nice show of your room temperature iq.

You're comparing the WORLDS LARGEST FUCKING DAM, ACRES OF CONCRETE to some chinkshit brick damn from decades ago, Damn sure got owned there, what's next Oroville? Checkmate.

Whats the point of failure for literally thousands of feet of concrete, huh?

All you retards are going off of is flooding WHICH FUCKING HAPPENS whether or not a dam is in place.

How can we ENSURE the dam collapses?

>>11891446
Hey, you leave Oroville out of this. That was a very fun happening

>>11891447
Oopsie, looks like disgruntled Uyghur dumped a rail car of logs upstream and they stopped up the outflow

>>11890261
>hubris
傲慢
Àomàn

Take it back to /pol/

>>11890241
>Three Gorges Dam From Collapsing And In the Deaths of 300 Million Gooks?

it would be pretty ironic tbqh

>>11891422
They should be able to overflow the water safely, atleast without any damage to the damn.

Superior east Asian technology, we need to invest more into this area.

>>11891495
Imagine the smell.

there are 4 levels of tech.
1 central europa, japan
2 usa/russia
3 china
4 wilderness

>>11890241
While the more sadistic part of me would enjoy seeing Chinks suffer some karma from their blatant disregard of climate change, the rational part of me is forced to point out that:
>The only source for this news is the Epoch Times, a kooky tabloid belonging to the Falun Gong cult and known to make up all sorts of shit in the past
>TGD is not at full capacity
>Fuck off back to /pol/

Might as well try to salvage this thread. How much of the outflow capacity is being used and how bad are the consequences of increasing it?

>>11891527
what are your thoughts if the dam breaks and 300 million people are not allowed to leave because lock-down?

>>11891534
How would you evacuate 300 million people on such a short notice?

>>11891537
they know since 4 days the structure may get critical.

Turn the dams into god dams

>>11891534
That would be good to know but it's top secret info, fiercely protected by the ccp.
there is no point in speculating (although i read somewhere theyve opened every flood gate for the first time ever)
it either collapses or it doesnt

>>11891545
If its so secret why all India and there news know about it?

>>11891547
If its not so secret why don't you fucking post up the data, fuckwit?

>>11890241
Out of all that /pol/ speculation, isn't there any chemical that would clear the skies from charged clouds? Or any mechanical/chemical way to process clouds to decrease precipitations?

ccp shills really suck at shilling lol

>>11891552
>Three Gorges Dam
there is a Indian news broadcaster, who reports in english. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5rZVH-9hY

i know you are to stupid to search it your self. (you will find the video on this channel yes?)

>>11891447
USSR used a few dozen tons of TNT back in the days, but the damn was smaller.
As always the answer is nukes

>>11890241
You are looking at it wrong way, you racist, you white running dog.
If the dam collapses then will need to build a new dam. Build new houses. More construction contracts! See, China smart. White running dog stupid.

>>11891545
So the probability is 50%

>>11891562
"youtube" is not a source.
"indian news broadcaster" is not a souce
you're a fuckwit.
poo in the loo

>>11891534
>>11891537
A good percentage of China's military assets are in the flood zone if the dam were to collapse. If they start moving those resources out of the region, you know something is up.

>>11890241
>China's largest dam
>China
This is your problem

>>11890247
Based. Engineers do the needful, scientists to the needless.

>>11891554
>isn't there any chemical that would clear the skies from charged clouds?
The poos are literally seeding clouds over the Himalayas in order to cause these floods. That's what the border dispute is about. Lads this is 8th generation environmental warfare.

>>11890928
>Epoch Times

This is why we should kill all retards.

>>11891518
You're acting like its not a fucking miracle that this thing hasn't collapsed already.

>>11891921
If this were possible Regan's Weather Dominator project would have worked

>>11891516
>central europe on par with japan
ok hanz

>>11892257
I agree joe, Japan is a bit behind but thats ok.

>>11890337
/pol/ is always right

>>11891537
With a huge wave

>>11890928
>Epoch Times

Every Poltard needs to be beaten to within an inch of his life

>>11892277
>/pol/ is always right

YEAH, just like that time when they autistically screeched about Kim Jong Un being dead right?

>>11890343
>The idea that we should attempt to try and monopolize as much energy as possible for our own purposes is the ultimate hubris
Why?

>>11890241
Based dam

>>11890300
they are capable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_disasters_by_death_toll#Structural_collapses

The residents called it "New Dachang" but this was more out of nostalgia than anything else. Their former home "Old Dachang" had stood since the period of the Three Kingdoms, with farms and houses and even trees said to be centuries old. When the Three Gorges Dam was completed, and the reservoir waters began to rise, much of Dachang had been disassembled, brick-by-brick, and rebuilt on higher ground. This New Dachang however, was not a town anymore, but a "national historic museum." It must have been heartbreaking irony for those poor peasants, to see their town save but then only being able to visit as a tourist. Maybe that is why some of them chose to name their newly constructed hamlet "New Dachang" to preserve some connection to their heritage, even if it was only in name. I personally didn't know that this other Dachang existed, so you can imagine how confused I was when the call came in.

>>11890300
>t. Hasn’t ever seen a liveleak video
>t. Doesn’t understand why people in China prod the tops of escalators with walking canes.