/sci/ - Science & Math

>economics
not science or math

>>11827014
Eh this is debatable. Depends on the voracity of what he's wanting to talk about

>>11827017
>Eh this is debatable.
No. It's not.

>>11827077
Economics uses math similarly to chemistry. Hell, Game Theory was developed for Econ. And no, I am not an economist

You won't get a reply here in /sci. People hate economics and they'll only come to this thread to shit on it. You might have better luck in /lit

>>11827095
I thought about that, but don't you think they will regurgitate marxist rhetoric unfiltered by its hundred years of failure. They won't even seethe.

>>11827077
>IQ too low to quant

Kurisu thread?

>>11827273
yes

>>11827115
>I thought about that, but don't you think they will regurgitate marxist rhetoric unfiltered by its hundred years of failure. They won't even seethe.
/lit/ changed. Not saying you'll get a better answer there now, but check it out.

>>11827891
Good

>>11826965
No, doesn't belong. Not science (math) or math.

>>11826965
hell yeah a new kurisu thread, i sure do love science and math post more

God, I love science

>>11830334
I know, right?

>>11826965
Just read Mankiw textbook and then skirt around others. But then read some left-wing stuff (Ha Joon Chang etc.) because almost all modern economics books suck Capitalism dick. Mankiw was/is a republican.

>>11827077
Go away retard

>>11826965
Economics is just applied mathematics.

>>11826965
I would say the Chicago school of econ should have some reading lists. But they may be only one point of view of many idk. The one i've heard being the most centered on economics.

>>11831358
>ha joon chang

>>11833341

/lit/ wiki had this

>>11833390
You don't need to know maths to understand economics. You only need to know concepts. And a single textbook would do the trick.

Unless you want to be a quant/work in developing economic theories. But I guess OP isn't asking for that.

>>11827273
>>11827891
Based Kurisuposters.

>>11826965
I actually wrote all the economics books below for your reading pleasure, let me know what you think
*************************************
ECONOMICS 101 - 699
>I have something that I can buy at price unit 1, if I sell it at price unit 2 I make 100% profit
********************************************

Are there any sci-fi anime’s as good steins gate?

I already watched serial experiments lain so don’t suggest that

>>11836417
Pinky and the Brain.

>>11836417
Rick & Morty
The BigBang Theory
Bill Nye Saves the World

read Marx and stop there

>>11836417
Dexter's laboratory

>>11836417
Planetes is supposed to be good. It's on my backlist.

>>11836417
Dr. Stone

>>11827273
Kurisu is /ourgirl

>>11837438
>"value should totally just be product of amount of labour input guys"

Marxfags are the economics equivalent of deonthologists

>>11838560
That show is awesome, can’t wait for season 2.

Japan is the best country on earth

>>11839190
is this the only pic you have and are posting it everywhere?

>>11826965
No. Get out.

>econ in sci

fuck off

>>11838560
based

kurisu best waifu

>>11843915
>of course you are
This image brings back feels.
I can't fap to her because I was too invested in the story.

>>11827014
fpbp

>>11827077
spbp

>>11827086
>using math makes it science
This board is absolute shit.

>>11847453
Its just cope friend, prestige will always be inaccessible to people that don’t have the ability to earn it by their own hand and they’ll always seek ways to artificially manufacture it if allowed to do so by those who grant and possess it.

Keep it up Kurisu poster.

I'm lurking too.

I like this thread....

>>11827014
You're right, I'd hate for an IQ thread to die for this.

>>11851476
Let me upgrade your image there Kurisufren.

>>11836417
Akira
Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou

>>11826965
Start with something fun like ha joon chang (optional) then read mankiw macroeconomics along with mankiws microeconomics while watching marginal university on youtube. at this point you know more about economics than 98 percent of people. then you can take off into more mathematical, international and financial economics by following /sci/ wiki's economics category, study historical economics, MMT (probably the most enlightening), post Keynesian economics , neo marxian economics, marxian institutional economics, econophysics, as well as some older economists like pareto, early Austrian school schumpeter, neo ricardians, wicksell etc

>>11827077
you are so fucking dumb

>>11826965
Varian Microeconomics
Mankiw/Romer Macroeconomics
Wooldridge Econometrics
Thats more than enough.

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>>11856357
>tfw no kurisu gf
why is she so cute bros

>>11856872
Look at how adorable she is.

>>11856872
because sadly she is not real

>>11857111
>trips
WHY DO YOU TORTURE ME SO

>>11857795
jk UwU

>>11857858
cute, where is it from?

>>11857871
norinyanuwu on instagram

>>11857858
3D disgusting

I wish she was serving this omelette to me

>>11860844
>>11861431
Hottie.

>>11861779
Now I am uploading stuff from the lewd folder

>>11862299
Nice, Kurisu's a babe.

>>11836417
Cowboy bebop

>>11826965
if you want to talk economics take it to /lit/ /his/ /biz/ or /pol/.

Short answer is to first read a textbook. The big 3 from when I was in college were the ones by Mankiw, Krugman, and Varian. Any of them are fine but Varian is the most "mathy" iirc. If you can find an older edition for cheap your gtg.

There are other good textbooks. Cowen and Tabarrok's modern principles is readable and great for teaching you what economics actually is but 1. it has a gay cover, 2. it's not commonly used, and 3. it's newer and thus more expensive.

Once you have the basics of modern econ I'd unironically recommend reading some of the older classics of "political economy". Progress and Poverty by Henry George is one of my favorites. Menger, Bohm-Bawerk, Mises, and the "austrians" in general are also worth checking out but I'd recommend not reading them until you understand what they're reacting against first.

That's probably year or two worth of dedicated study right there but once you read all of them you'll be more knowledgeable than 90% of people on the subject. After that you can pretty much just read whatever interests you.

Econlib and marxists.org is a great resource for old books and articles.

Also, most of modern economics is done through academic journals rather than books so google scholar is your friend. And blogs. Blogs are big in the econ world. Check out marginal revolution.

>>11863454
I’ve read Mankiw but still feel my grasp on economics is shaky. I need to think deeply about something and google before I come up to the right answer. It’s such a complex subject but more time is needed to consolidate thought

>>11831052
Imagine

>>11833390
>pic
I took that list from the /sci/ wiki, made it into an infographic and spammed it on /biz/.
Now you're telling me it ended up on the /lit/ wiki and presumably a lit thread too.
Interesting how thing spread.

This was after using the list for my own benefit, which is why I wanted to share it.

>>11869806
Making someone that happy with the promise of a life with you?

>>11827014
Econ makes testable predictions about the real world. It's a science.

It's also laden with a bunch of BS philosophy unfortunately, but that's to be expected with a science used to justify the status quo.

>>11826965
If you're being genuine the three books you should read

is Mankiw's introduction to economics, Varian's intro to micro and Krugman's Macro econ.

With this your only major gap is labour econ which requires some extra reading but if you've read those three you'll be more on level to sense out what to read for that.

>>11826965
Even computer science is better than this meme major. Get ready for some kike indoctrination u degenerate scum.

>>11827086
>Game Theory was developed for Econ
Yes, by mathematicians. But many fields use game theory.

>>11838879
>value should
He was describing what value actually was, not what it should be in Das Kapital
Did you even finish the first chapter

Daily reminder economics is not a science, and even if it was, it would not be worth funding institutionally as
1) the predictive validity of dilettantes in the field is just as strong as experts
(pic related)
2) You make better return on investments if you treat experts in the field as anti-experts (invest in the ones they say are crap)
https://didattica.unibocconi.it/mypage/upload/154156_20170919_051604_DIAG_STOCKS_BGLS_NBER.PDF
3) economists cannot reliably predict a recession more than 2 months in advance
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/bdm.3960050306
4) The more qualified the academic, the less good they are at predicting outcomes in economics https://www.nber.org/papers/w22566

>>11826965
Economic is not science. You should go back to >>>/biz/

I'm starting to run-out of images

>>11827115
Either that or BASIC ECONOMICS

>>11885290
Already?

>>11885368
I don't want to post lewds since I want this thread to hit bump limit, I do not want to anger some jannie who takes 4channel seriously

>>11885643
As long as you don't cross over into red board stuff you should be fine.

>>11885669
Pretty sure it could stil fall under flooding

>>11885672
You aren't exactly spamming them.

stupid sexy genius

OP start with Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell and then move to his other books. Read all of his books, then watch videos by Peter Schiff and Keiser Report and you have better understanding of economy than Krugman.

>>11885691
I'm not going to trust someone else's judgment

>>11886106
>>11885691
That sounded kinda rude, I meant that I do not trust someone else to not believe I am spamming best girl

even /sci/ jannies love Kurisu

>>11847461
If they wanted prestige they wouldn’t call it science, nobody respects scientists.

Everyone but me gotta learn this

>>11884371
This, calling economics a science is an insult to economists.

>>11827095
>>11827014
>>11826965
Calling economics a science is an insult to people who study economics.

>>11886461
If that were a real concern to them it would've been stopped days ago. Just post what you like, no matter whether it's sub-NSFW lewd or just something cute af.

>>11827014
>>11827077
It's applied science and math.

>>11884346
> 1) the predictive validity of dilettantes in the field is just as strong as experts
(pic related)
Precisely why financial crises which are caused by governments due to dilettantes happen. If they were as smart as experts, they wouldn't go bankrupt and then commit suicide.
> 2) You make better return on investments if you treat experts in the field as anti-experts (invest in the ones they say are crap)
> https://didattica.unibocconi.it/mypage/upload/154156_20170919_051604_DIAG_STOCKS_BGLS_NBER.PDF
Very comfortable to use 2 different definitions of experts. This time you are referring to sell-side analysts who are paid to make you buy and not the other way around. Basically the same thing as reviewers in tech business.
> 3) economists cannot reliably predict a recession more than 2 months in advance
> https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/bdm.3960050306
Because the financial markets are too complex to predict basically anything in them. The whole 2008 crisis was known to happen some day, but the experts had no idea when. In the end the crash happened at the time it happened only because government decided to bail out Bear Stearns but not Lehmann Brothers, even though they were really similiar to each other, and there was no reason to bail one but not the other. Experts are there to understand the consequences, and how to deal with them. They have no idea what decision is government going to do most of the time, unless they specifically advise them to do something.
> 4) The more qualified the academic, the less good they are at predicting outcomes in economics > https://www.nber.org/papers/w22566

Because economics as a science uses several assumptions that are sometimes broken by governments. The better you are at it, the more ludicrous some of the decision governments make seem to you.

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>>11886930
Find a morsel of predictive validity in economics, else the point stands.

>>11887117
cringe
go to twitter or plebbit if cant focus for 5seconds

>>11886669
Oh well, I will carry on

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>>11826965
Which school of economics is MIT?
How many books did you find so far?

>>11888286
>Kurisu has Marfan syndrome

>>11887122
not him, but whether or not economics as its taught academically is valid is something that is debatable, i agree. but do you believe then it is impossible to make predictions about the economy in general?

>>11826965
>>Does economics belong here?

Economics suffers from a lot of dogma. But that was true of astronomy, medicine, and many other fields not so long ago. I think economics can be a science.

>>11889563
It needs to incorporate the labour theory of value. That's the bridge it needs to bring it back into the realm of reality.

Kurisu-costumized JOI when?

>>11890684
>cuban

>*knock* *knock*
>Open door
>See this

>>11890571
Fuck off commie

>>11890775
I mean she is literally cuban, not my fault goose has shit taste

>>11890857
The only option is kissing her right then and there.

>>11826965
What are you even looking for? You have given us no information other than "I scraped the MIT booklist". What have you already read? What are you looking to learn?

If you're completely new and looking for an undergraduate-level introduction, I recommend Perloff's Microeconomics book.

>>11827086
> economics uses math similarly to chemistry
You are mistaken.
Graduate economics requires mathematics through Real Analysis. That's just to get an admissions interview.

>>11890592
>It needs to include my commie cancer

>>11890857
Wait, I recognize that doujin

>>11893253
You think you do, but the artist who drew those doujinshi actually illustrated an official Steins;Gate manga, which is where that panel comes from.

>>11893351
I see

Here anon, not sure if anyone recommended this but here. I read it its mostly normative economics if thats what your looking for.

Bumping for best girl kurisu

>>11836417
Haruhi Suzumiya

>>11895428
Based.

>>11836417
Dennou Coil

Political Economy > Economics.
Neither are sciences but at least the former is honest about it.

in awe at the fags talking about economics in my kurisu thread

>>11896064
How to get Kurisu gf, economically?

>>11896459
Invest in cutting edge AI research.

>Image limit is not 200

>>11897139
please don't post sad kurisus

>>11897215
That's no Kurisu, tho

>200 IQ
>Partner you can have intelligent conversations with
>Cute
>PhD at 17
I have yet to see anyone more perfect than this girl

>>11900729
>I have yet to see anyone more perfect
How about now

>>11901110
Not even Zyzz is on her level.

>>11901274
Zyzz:
>top of his class in his university, granted the special title of Dux, clearly very high IQ
>world famous and inspired millions
>invented the phrase "You mad bro?"
>lifted weights
>sexy as faaawk
Kurisutina:
>much smarter, I will give her that
>caused WW3, killing millions
>spouts memes, lacks the creativity to make new ones
>eats junk food and does not lift weights
>is female
I think it's pretty obvious who wins here

>>11901972

don't compare Zyzz to jap cartoon characters

For a graduate level textbook you can pick up Microeconomic Theory

>>11832502
Mathematics is just applied common sense

>>11906203
common sense is just average retardation

>>11844392
>fapping to ur waifus
The fuck?

>>11890857
Hello there,
Would you like to talk about time travel?

>>11884255
No I havent even touched the book, I have however finished a degree in economics.
That is even more fucking retarded. He is still wrong but to go "no uh he is not wrong because he says it's his opinion, he says it's fact!" is just asinine. Value can be defined as a what another party is willing to pay for a good (based on the utility it would bring them), consumers are indifferent to the producers cost of producing the good. If two producers create and sell the same good the consumers wont go "hold on a minute, how much did it cost you guys to produce this?" when deteriming how much the want the good (and thus how much they are willing to pay for it), the only thing they'll consider is "how much will this good benefit me if I buy it? How much utility will I gain?"
The only place where labour input in the production of a good matters is for calculating COGS in accounting.

>>11901972
i'll forever be mirin brah

>>11870017
thanks for making it anon, good original shit spreads far and wide on here :)

>>11889534
No, you can make predictions about an economy, as above. It's that diletantes are as good at predicting as supposed experts. And more 'expertise' in academic economics actually indicates you'll be worse at predicting.

>>11907590
This. I don't know why but I can't fap to my true waifus.

>>11826965
Unironically study Marx's Capital and Marxian economics. When applied in tandem with mainstream economists one can understand economics pretty well entirely, including where exactly things become obfuscated and difficult to understand -- e.g. with the commodification of labour-power. Economic philosophy follows, and chances are when you read Marx's actual analysis and study his calculations you'll reach similar conclusions as he did.
There are easier works to start with too, like Wage Labour and Capital.

Where are the Kurisu pics from? I know Kurisu is from STEINS;GATE, I just want to know where all of this fanart is coming from.

>>11836417
not sure the name... the creator of gantz made it. its about a robot guy.

>>11912167
True love is deeper than mere sensuality

>>11914270
>>11836417

Is it Kamen Rider Zero-One?

One day I'll cosplay as a genderbent Kurisu. I'd be a good match I think.

can't believe this thread is still alive, keep it up kurisuchads

>>11914226
Pixiv, Twitter, DeviantArt, ArtStation, Tumblr, various boorus. Just like any other series' fanart.

>>11915171
Will do.

>>11826965
Have you made any money using knowledge that you have gained from those books?

>>11915171
I am waiting for the thread to be over to harvest my new kurisu pictures

>>11885734
Please, hope nobody actually falls for this meme

Shut up animefaggots

You are not cute

>>11919262
>You are not cute
But kurisu is (Γ•ω•)Γ

I really dislike fanart that isnt in the same style of anime/VN. Dont really now why, it just feels off