/sci/ - Science & Math

UDMH juul pods when?

>>11880437
They just shipped a bunch of pods to our colony but they stored them next to the fuel tanks. Just tastes like RP-1. Also I heard roscosmos just started landing ethanol-based supply rockets for the Moon colonies and everyone there just drinks the rocket fuel

>>11880437
Vaping is unironically by far the most mass efficient and one of the least harmful way for colonists to get their mild stimulant drug hit. Colonists will be hitting those dank vape clouds nigga.

>get selected to be colonist on mars
>due to budget cuts and government corruption your rations are limited to only Armour brand canned meat products for the first 18 months of your expedition
do you still go, /sfg/?

>>11880459
Keto is objectively best diet and ill have my 1% amphetamine cut Spacex juul pods to keep me going, no worries cunt sign me up.

>>11880359
fanaticism is a better option. Fanatics will perform better than slaves and are more willing to sacrifice themselves to the cause. Given current enthusiasm for mars colonization it should be possible to obtain a practically limitless supply of fanatics. Humans can perform better than robots, but the upkeep cost of humans makes humans more expensive. However, there are options to greatly reduce this cost. The best way to do this is with induced torpor. Induced torpor decreases human upkeep cost and enables more humans to be sent in the same spacecraft. Less upkeep, plus no need for useless space to move around means a smaller rocket. Another huge advantage of torpor is being able to store work units until they are needed. There are huge unknowns with offworld construction, but work is likely to be as or more dangerous as underwater work here on earth. As work units fail they can be replaced with work units in storage. A huge advantage of humans over robots is that failed work units can provide supplemental protein. In the near term, protein production on Mars will be basically nil, necessitating expensive shipment from earth, so any additional protein sources we can obtain have a huge benefit. Fanaticism poses a huge advantage here, enabling us to overcome any associated taboos. Fanatics may volunteer to have their protein resources be used for the good of the colony in the event of their failure, making their consumption by other colonists much more palatable. In addition, fanaticism may be used to encourage docility inducement due to exposure to deep space radiation. Brain damage inducing radiation is a great way to make colonists more docile and manageable, and we can encourage this with perhaps a rite of passage or radiation baptism.

>>11880500
Live look of starship filled to the brim with “offworld indentured servants”

>>11880437
>>11880444
>>11880446
I have a terrible juul addiction but I don’t really want to stop. I don’t think I could go cold turkey at this point. Anyone else have a juul or am I gay for using it and should quit asap

>>11880500
Fanatic volunteer here, shoot me up with that unreliable experimental torpor drug, I'll sign whatever waivers for my cannibalism upon death and sign me up for the 500 man starship voyage. Fuck urf.

>>11880509
>not smoking tobacco in moderation like God intended
kids these days

>>11880509
Ex heavy smoker, now heavy vape addict here. I can cold turkey for months at a time with minimal problems, if someone said no more nicotine from tomorrow I would be fine. Its mostly a habit from boredom and super easy and cheap availability.

>>11880500

>>11880522

>>11880509
>not a self-rolling cowboy
The pens are cute and bubblegum flavor is nice and all but I'm good with my pouch 'n papers.

>>11880567
Unfortunately for most of the world, tobacco is super expensive, plus I enjoy my lungs not getting raped.

>>11880573
I only pay $4 roughly for a pouch of mine, can't picture paying $10+ for a pack like some places have. I suppose juul or those weird zim things would be ideal nicotine delivery for Mars colonists, as nobody's shipping tons of dried leaf to the red planet.
>lung-rape
That's just the smoke givin' your insides a kiss.

There are a lot of nuspace startups where I live and I want to get in them. I'm studying ME but all of them only want software/electrical engineers to build Earth observation software and shitty cubesats. What does /sfg/ recomend?

>>11880595
If you want to build shitty smallsats then ME and EE, if you want to gtfo this shitdump of a planet in the future then trash your expensive pieces of paper and learn a trade.

>>11880029
>modern laptop
>literally no legacy ports that could be used in 1980
It doesn't even matter if you have older USB ports, but USB-C would be worse.
Even 10-base-T Ethernet was 1990. You might find a DB-9 serial port on a 2010-era laptop.

>>11880629
I think it's more of having everything on screen, also no reason they wouldn't have a look at it and try and bring USB tech forward a few years specifically to connect with this important laptop

>>11880640
You can gangbang adapters between USB and older serial ports can't you? In any case your best bet might be writing a bunch of floppies and bringing those back with your for convenience.
>"NASA look, I have decades of spaceflight advancements for you!"
>*slams 50lb briefcase full of floppies on table*

>>11880622
There's barely any mechanical engineering work done for smallsats. It's just plug and play.

>>11880655
Depends entirely on what level you are involved at.

>>11880650
>"NASA look, I have decades of spaceflight advancements for you!"
>oh uh actually just ignore all the folders that aren't labelled SpaceX, those were a mistake

>>11880640
Don't underestimate USB, there's dozens of layers of hardware and software shit involved in even USB 1.0. Protocol-wise, it's a pain in the ass to get up and running on an embedded system with no OS to lean on, and that's with specialized chips to do the serialization. And so much of it depends on a spec full of otherwise magic numbers.
>>11880650
Sure, if you bring USB-to-legacy-port adapters with you. If you just time travel a laptop and charger back into 1980 you're fucked trying to get anything on and off.
>floppies
Zoomers don't even know what those are, and USB floppy drives are dongles too just like a USB serial adapter. The 3.5" Sony floppy disk wasn't even invented until 1984, and the HD format also in 1984, but it would take a few more years for 3.5" HD. And there is no USB to 5 1/4" floppy drive unless you make one to show off on Hackaday.

>>11880665
>take laptop back in time
>"ignore that folder named meme pics"

>>11880672
>tfw NASA find the hentai floppies

>>11880678
>that one engineer who instantly recognizes hentai but pretends not to know what it is

>>11880680
>one
Kek

>>11880672
>please make sure you preserve this one though

When Joe Biden wins, he's going to cancel Artemis, cut all funding to spaceX, and redirect that funding into SLS to save him and Obama's program from Trump who fucked everything

SLS supremacy is back on the menu

>>11880478
keto is what hipsters did when veganism became too mainstream

Video of Martian colonists at mealtime
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qX86OnqAxBs

>>11880700
>Broadcast that pic into the warp when bunderfoot dies
>His soul is haunted by it for all eternity

>>11880756
Nah veganfags are still cucking on their quinoa burgers while keto chads have been smashing steak and eggs since it was called the atkins diet over a decade ago.

>>11880669
oh damn I forgot my pic
And ya know, if the laptop is from the early 2010s it would still have a DVD-ROM drive.
>have to master a data-format CD to get data onto the laptop, by sending a data cartridge tape to a factory in California and waiting four weeks
>no CD-R blanks even though you can't help but trip over stacks of them at thrift stores now
>not that any of that matters, the CD-ROM yellow book standard didn't even exist until 1983 anyhow
>but at least you can play the latest '80s synth pop CDs!
>TAINTED LOOOOOVE, OOOOOH
>TAINTED LOOOOOOOOOVE

>>11880780
I just meant take back a bunch of floppies and skip the laptop, and I meant floppy floppies not the 3'5" stiff ones that came later.
But yeah you'd need a pallet of em to transport any significant modern data I imagine so better time-travel with a forklift.

>>11880800
That's nice, now go find a 5 1/4" floppy drive. But even that doesn't help because IBM PC 360K format didn't exist before about 1983 or so, and that was FAT version 1.0 without sub-directories. And there wasn't ANY truly standard format before that except for the single-density 8-inch floppy, not even on CP/M.
I'm early GenX, I was there, we've had many more incremental changes in data technology than you can imagine.

>>11880436

>>11880831
Brig old floppies back to when they were in use, I don't know why you're getting more needlessly autistic than that anon.

>2 hours from star link mission
>no launch thread
>thread talking about backwards comapatability of time travelling laptops
I guess this is it. Space is boring now.

>>11880831
>>11880800
Fuck it, just print it all off on paper.

>>11880773
veggie burgers are based you don't even know what you're talking about

>>11880855
remember when everyone used to tune in just to watch the return landings? Now it's normalized, and that's a good thing

>>11880436
>dream about SN5 flying and hovering
>videos of people on airplanes capturing the moment of flight
>wake up and realize its all a dream

>>11880838
still virgin, yet chad

>>11880855
cant we just talk about it here

>>11880855
Launch thread will be up in a couple min

FUCK URF METAPHORICALLY
FUCK AYYS LITERALLY

>>11880896
why the need to split the threads

Just talk about it here...

>>11880910
disgusting

launch thread!
>>11880933

>>11880924
>>11880912
because I've been making launch threads for fucking forever and you can't stop me

>>11880500
Honestly doesn't sound too bad.

>>11880750
If Joe Biden wins it’ll be the ultimate test of PopSci’s loyalties. On one hand they love SpaceX and hate SLS, but on the other hand they try and praise everything Democrat and progressive politicians do.

SpaceX will be fine they’re too much on the radar to be axed.

>>11880996
Why would the dems try to ax SpaceX, for tax revenue it’s gonna be a massive cash cow?

>>11880996
>SpaceX will be fine they’re too much on the radar to be axed.
and too deep into military contracts, luckily. This more than anything makes me feel like they're untouchable because no matter what the candidates rhetoric is going into office, the sitting president always bends to the military (or at least realizes that it's more complicated than their campaign promises made it out to be).

>>11881006
Gotta strike at le ebil capitalist Musk while sucking Google, Facebbok and Amazon.

>>11880996
If Joe Biden wins he'll be carted right off to the nursing home and his running mate will take office.

>>11881006
Preserving the value generated by capitalist enterprises would be the rational and pragmatic thing to do, but Democrats behave in neither a rational nor pragmatic way.

>>11880750
>Biden cuts all government funding to SpaceX
>SpaceX continues on due to it's LEO market dominance

>>11881040
>Biden dissolves Spacex and Tesla
>Musk moves to Russia and build cars and rockets there

>>11881021
>his running mate will take office
his running mate who is currently being chosen exclusively based on gender and race? great

>>11881050
>Biden dissolves Spacex and Tesla
Never going to happen. There's no grounds to do so beyond "they're doing something I don't like", and any attempt will be met with huge resistance across the nation and government because doing so sets a very dangerous standard.

>>11881050
More like china

>>11881057
After 2020 anything can happen mate.

>>11881058
He would rather work for Putin and than Communists.

Biologically produced methalox when?

If we figure this out we can potentially set up biorefineries offworld, eliminating the need to hunt for ice deposits to produce hydrolox (which has massively inferior energy density).

>>11881059
No. Go away, doomer. SpaceX is here to stay.

>>11881059
I would say we're more conscious than ever about the constitutional limits of what the president can and cannot do. Although it's a shame that the takeaway most people get is "elect people that you can trust" instead of "power always corrupts, trust nobody, and ensure the system doesn't rely on trust."

>>11881065
biologically produced anything is shit and inefficient

also you still need water ice to get hydrogen (methane is CH4) and oxygen

>>11881065
Potentially there are deposits of methane on Mars.

>>11881065
attached pipes from cow asses to storage tank

>>11881094
The cows being modified human females?

>>11881065
Then instead of hunting for ice you're hunting for something to nourish your bioreactors with. Better to simply perform large shipments and depot your propellants, ISRU probably won't be anything more than supplementary for another 50 years to a century, unless somebody figures out how to invent a solar panel with greater than 60% thermal efficiency. The only other way to get fully independent and productive ISRU is to use an atomic reactor to power your ice cracking plants, but since the governments of Earth have no balls, no ambition, and no desire to explore it will be an infuriatingly sluggish process to get large reactors into space.

>>11880856
Good idea. They still had "typing pools" back then.

the launch is supposed to happen in 15 minutes, right? Why hasn't the stream started?

>>11881069
In 1960s Johnson used army to enforce Equal Rights, in 2020 Trump did nothing.

>>11881116
Weather is still No Go. Hosts probably waiting for t -5 minutes or less before deciding to go live.

>>11881052
If the January "I'm an old man, I need someone ready to take over at any moment" didn't tip you off, "120 million americans have died of covid-19" should have set alarm bells ringing and "I'm Joe Biden's wife" should have cemented the fucking deal.

>>11881121
Because we already had equal rights, you idiot.

>>11881135
Tell hat to BLM.

scrub a dub
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1280891612088823808

>>11881137
I would but they're too busy looting innocent people's houses and stores to listen.

>>11881137
Their leadership's primary purpose is to aid in the conversion of countries they're based in to some vague model based in marxism by any means necessary, and their secondary goal is to grift as much money for themselves and politicians who support them as possible.
Why should any mentally sound person care what they say? The average supporter isn't even relevant, the leadership use them as pawns and human shields, most of them probably barely even know what they're protesting about.

scrub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM

>>11881199
Lmao

Unrelated but what is “PopSci”, and why does 4Chan Hate it?

>>11881210
>PopSci
science as a personality trait

>>11881210
>what is “PopSci”
Science articles written for "normal people" that removes any nuance or scientific details, usually to have a click baity title. Bonus points for being written by a dumb fuck journalist who didn't even bother to fact check his article against Wikipedia.

Grabbed this from firefox's shitty recommends, perfect example.

>>11881210
Popsci (assuming you don't mean the magazine) here generally refers to a superficial popular perception of science. /sci/ hates it because people who have a popsci understanding of science tend to be perfect examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect and thus difficult to talk with.

>>11881232
>>11881210
By default, you should avoid tabloids for science. News tabloids are good for political points. If you align with certain ideology and you need your dopamine fix, read news tabloid that fits your ideology. They are not arbiters of truth, but rather arbiters of ideology.

>>11881214
>>11881232
>>11881241
So it’s those people that always wear NASA shirts and talk about how much they love space but can’t name a single astronaut aside from Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, or always talk about the space shuttle but have no idea wtf “Mercury” or “Gemini” are?

Sounds like me in middle school damn I was the “science guy” who always liked science and was a nerd/sperg

>>11881210
>PopSci
Layman's spelling for demographer

>>11881256
>So it’s those people that always wear NASA shirts and talk about how much they love space but can’t name a single astronaut aside from Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, or always talk about the space shuttle but have no idea wtf “Mercury” or “Gemini” are?
Yeah something like that. Although, imo it's only an issue when the person acts like they know alot and aren't open to learning more. Ignorance is fine, stupidity isn't.

>>11881256
I don't think popsci refers to your breadth or depth of knowledge but more your general disposition

being interested in science in middle school but not knowing the full picture isn't a big deal, to me popsci would be your typical consooomer ingesting science via snapchat feeds and major news publication summaries

Did we talk about this already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhUpDvHI1bE

Look at that shaft shake after the leg falls.

>>11880436
Get out of here Curie!
This is now a MER thead!

>>11881006
ORANGE MAN BAD

>>11881284
I remember watching a documentary about the two of them in the early 2000s it was actually really good.

At least they’re both still in one piece and can be “revived” in the future. CASSINI was turned into a long string of atoms.

>>11881210
>what is "PopSci"
Science dumbed down for the lowest common denominator.

>>11881279
Was someone injured? I noticed that the crane operator's hardhat fell off, but I couldn't tell if he was hurt.

>>11881303
No one was hurt according to people there

>>11881291
And Mariner always gets gutted by actors for it's comms :/ Red Planet, The Martian, that other thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCIzZHpFtY

>>11881279
last thread

>>11880838
>im gonna ROOOOOVE

>>11881101
>>11881094
Off to the BRAP BARN!

>>11881306
Control rooms after a successful mission always make me tear up

Spirit and Oppy were listening to Rise Against, Incubus and Avril Lavigne.
Sojourner listened to Rom Di Prisco and Nirvana

What does Curiosity even listen to?

>>11881306
Pathfinder/Sojourner you mean, not Mariner, which never had a lander.

>>11881350
Vibrant Mars trap and Jovianwave

>What is that fuzzy streak extending from Mercury? Long exposures of our Solar System's innermost planet may reveal something unexpected: a tail. Mercury's thin atmosphere contains small amounts of sodium that glow when excited by light from the Sun. Sunlight also liberates these molecules from Mercury's surface and pushes them away. The yellow glow from sodium, in particular, is relatively bright. Pictured, Mercury and its sodium tail are visible in a deep image taken in late May from Italy through a filter that primarily transmits yellow light emitted by sodium. First predicted in the 1980s, Mercury's tail was first discovered in 2001. Many tail details were revealed in multiple observations by NASA's robotic MESSENGER spacecraft that orbited Mercury between 2011 and 2015. Tails are usually associated with comets. The tails of Comet NEOWISE are currently visible with the unaided eye in the morning sky.

>>11881347
Hey man, I cried when I read about Oppy dying last year. No shame in that.

>>11881352
yes I'm high. my bad.

>>11881292
So at 4chan level?

>>11881376
Even lower. Think crayon and lead paint chip consumer.

>>11881379
I noticed that with pop history, you know, smaller channels used to best History channel but now there's like 10 of these clickbait channels rambling on about Panzers and Sekret Wunderwaffen, How Ger could have won the war, or worst chemical disasters, ghost ships... everything and it's always something really well known and chewed out. Also a lot of tech in there but extremely dumbed down and sensationalisized (if that's even a word).
You know what I mean? The ones with the shitty cartoon animations, like south park, but worse.

>>11881390
Yes, it goes for for "pop" anything, be it history or psychology or science. It's digested down so the simplest simian creature can sort of understand it and brag about understanding it to his or her compatriots.

>>11881350
Carly Rae Jensen

She’s a big girl who likes 2012 music

Is there a mod for more miniaturized exploration rovers? I wanted to explore duna and my lander is just huge. I also want to use hinges but they are really huge as well :/
I'm in mid career at the moment and apart from not wanting it to be giant, I just can't afford to fly this huge rocket.
Can you help a nigga out?
Is there a mod for me?

>>11881289
That's nice. I have a MER t-shirt that JPL was selling back in the day, but I wasn't aware of jackets.

>>11881434
Tweakscale would be the obvious one, it's a bit finicky for the most recent versions of KSP but if it works on the parts you need shrunk, it just works.

>>11880500
kill yourself larper

>>11881453
Sorry but it's a shop :/
I have these and that's real dust on that rover!

>>11881461
I was hoping there were actual mods for that, I was avoiding tweakscale because it feels kind of cheaty. I'm playing Career after all.

>>11881325
My ancestor ))))))

When?

>>11880700
He's gone awfully quiet about SpaceX ever since DM-2.

>>11881506
MOAR RC-CARSSSSS!

>>11881514
He's an ego man, he won't even be able to bring himself to address accelerating SpaceX success unless somebody forces the topic on him.

can rocketlab recover?

>>11881514
Many such cases with e-celeb know it alls

Cool view of booster landing:

https://twitter.com/PPathole/status/1280890608807108614

>>11881499
My descendant :^)

Just mixed a test batch of HTPB+Saltpeter propellant. Can't wait to be able to test it.

>>11881581
No, that would be an insult. It was terrible in ME1 and incredibly boring in Andromeda. An UT-47 Kodiak on the other hand... would have worked wonders in ME and saved at least the gameplay in Andromeda.

>>11881506
Now they are saying "No earlier than July 30". Earlier they were saying that the launch window closed August 11, but I don't know how firm that was.

>>11881606
it's not super firm but there's not a lot of slip in that number

>>11881577
posting a fucking twitter video, which is recorded from a 360 degree youtube video, posted by a fucking pajeet, kek
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDK5TF2BOhQ

>>11881606
inb4 the chinks launch their rover but NASA miss the window completely

>>11880226
Freeze-dried instant coffee is pretty mass efficient per cup equivalent when compressed into bricks of powder instead of the standard commercial format of low-density granules. You could also do old-style tea bricks.

>>11881707
Dubs and the CNSA rover explodes on the pad

>>11881592
The mako was great, what are you talking about?
It could climb up mountains and a good driver could matrix dodge missiles and railgun shots with ease. It was endearing because it was so broken
The kodiak was a literal flying brick
Wish the mantis got more screentime though

>>11881058
Elon Musk helping communist China to galactic dominance because the US rejected him is the darkest timeline.

>>11881784
>Human Zerg plague the galaxy

>>11881137
BLM is just communists using race hustling to cause problems

>>11881784
No way it could happen though. Even if America sees a hyperprogressive president like AOC who demands NASA be shut down, Elon will still be able to sell all of his stocks and become the richest man in the world. Between that and Starlink funds, he’s definitely keeping his American citizenship and going to Mars

>>11881774
It was universally hated and Andromeda was an universally hated game, including gameplay and pacing which are both involving the vehicle.
Plus, why would you bother with a slow ass terrain locked rover when you have universally better shuttles? Who loves the Scarab in Elite?

Lastly the Andromeda rover looks like ass while the Kodiak is about as timeless as a Huey.

>>11881801
Speaking of Hueys, is Martian atmosphere thick enough for helicopters, or would Mars need sub orbital rocket copters?

Would it be possible to have modified starlink sats rendezvous with space junk(intact but inoperative satellites) and have them deorbit the sat? How much DeltaV does starlink have?

>>11881824
you just need some thicc rotors

>>11881824
NASA is sending a little helicopter there with the Perseverance rover to scout ahead for it, so it’s at least possible in principle.

>>11881824
Boy, are you in for a surprise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Helicopter_Ingenuity

No clue about manned ones though

>>11881829
Each Starlink sat has 80kms of delta/v

>>11881824
Less resistance means, I think you could just add more blades to the same helos to shovel more (air?) with their underutilized engines... which somehow get enough oxidizer from the atmosphere.
It's also only one third of the gravity, so that's a definite yes.

>>11881831
>>11881833
It’s possible, and the lower gravity helps, but I don’t think people realize just how thin the atmosphere really is. If you tried to pull a vacuum with a homemade vacuum chamber here on Earth you would probably get something a liiiiiitle bit less than what the Martian air is like. You need some YUGE rotors that spin fast as fuck. That helicopter launching on Mars2020 has to spin those blades with some crazy fast RPM just to get any lift

With how thin the Martian atmosphere is, what would a plane have to look like to actually fly there? Would they have to look like u2 spy planes?

>>11881839
Really? Seems a bit fantastical lol.
>https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=48229.0

This is the closest I've found
ISP of starlink:
>https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1111798912141017089

>>11881831
that whole thing weighs almost nothing though

>>11881846
Magnesium fueled VTOL jet time, baby

>>11881846 Thinner atmo means less resistance, means more RPM's, or more aerodynamic surfaces (I'd use gearing because sound pollution doesn't matter and it's lighter than more blades). Thinner atmo also means less resistance in horizontal flight which is good news for my project to open a NF-104"M" starfighter plant on Mars.

>>11881514
Who?

>>11881871
>my project to open a NF-104"M" starfighter plant on Mars.
haha NTPR go crashhhhhh

https://flightclub.io/payload-calculator

Cool

>>11881878
>NTPR
Acronym Definition
NTPR National Transplantation Pregnancy Registry (est. 1991; Philadelphia, PA)
NTPR Nuclear Test Personnel Review

Laughs at your pregnant whatever in Mach10!

>>11881888
Nuclear Thermal Propelled Rocket

>>11881873
I’m trying to figure out the same thing, some youtuber I assume? I don’t think they’re talking about Elon. It’s bothering me I need to know

>>11881873

>>11881896
Oh damn that’s so weird I just found his channel about solvated electrons. His anti religion videos are pure cringe though. Also he has a wikipedia page and it sounds like he wrote it himself lmao, check it out

>>11881894
Thunderf00t. He hates Elon Musk for some reason.

>>11881901
Religion is sociologically beneficial. Anyone arguing again it is a useful idiot.

>>11881907
>Hello everybody, I’m a science youtuber and- well- I have a superiority complex and I am le epic enlightened atheist. I don’t need the bible, I have the scientific method
This way of thinking is so fucking cringe. I’m bringing a big fat crucifix to Mars and getting a photo with Elon and Kanye just to piss everyone off

>>11881774
>The kodiak was a literal flying brick
Bricks aren't hollow cuboids made of paper-thin glass so no.

>>11881888
Woha, almost forgot the helmet there, also checking the trips baby!
>>11881889
Yea I stick with RCS assisted turbojet. and a Rocketdyne AR-2 touched up by Spacex. So I can also take orbital shuttle gigs.

>>11881137
BLM is just a tool massive corporations use for marketing consumer products to normies and Twitter users

>>11881914
>>11881904
>>11881896
didn't he also once used a picture of a crashed f9 booster to show how reusing them was impossible? (he implied that every booster would look like that after one flight)

>>11881135
Not really though

>>11881914
Imagine the seething that would occur if the Apollo astronauts read the book of Genesis while in space today. Mormons on Mars now!

>>11881921
No. It was a picture of a booster that was gliding back to a barge. It had condensation streaks coming off it it due to unusual weather conditions at the time. The booster landed successfully if I recall correctly, but blunderf00t took the photo and implied that the streaks were smoke from the booster being too burnt. I don't recall which video it was, but I think it was either his video on Dragon 2, E2E BFR, or the Space Force.

>>11881924
>Actual libtard on 4Chan who believes in magical invisible systematic racism

>>11881927
I forgot about that hahah some bitch tried to sue NASA and lost

>>11881916
I mean in all seriousness, have A Mako and a Kodiak face the same enemies and the Kodiak would always win, even if you strapped a jumppack to the Mako. The reason why Kodiaks crash so often is because they are meant to be hueys, disposable and way too fun to not fly dangerously and the Mako was the player vehicle. that for plot reasons didn't get stomped every few seconds.

>>11881831
>spend millions of dollars to send a microcopter to Mars
>hits a rock and flips over on its first landing

>>11881931
>he doesn't feel the effects and ignores of it so it doesn't exist
Retard

>>11881930
I don’t understand, is it “cool” to hate Elon Musk now? I just found his debunking E2E video and all the comments are exactly what I expected
>HES JUST SUCKING THE CAPITALIST GOVERNMENT’S TIT
>ELON IS A LIAR
>HE CALLED A GUY A PEDO BUT HE DATES A 14 YEAR OLD
Why has this subculture of twitter users / le enlightened atheist scientists who hate Elon developed out of nowhere? Is it because he’s successful?

>>11881945
There’s no proof it exists. You might as well chase ghosts.

>>11881946
Why do you think the world revolves around Twitter randos?

>>11881829
Probably, but that might open up unintentional satellite wars

>>11881896
>reusability at the cost of reliability
falcon 9 and falcon heavy DONT trade reliability for reusability though, so I don't know what this fag is on about

>>11881946
Progressives hate successful people. Read into the concept of “slave morality”.

>>11881921
He's a stupid armchair engineer. Ignore him. There's dime a dozen in this world.

>>11881943
Or it lands ina tree :S

>>11881954
Because despite not being a majority group, they are loud as fuck. Every large company... let me repeat, EVERY LARGE COMPANY, now shows off their pride flags and #BLM posts and shit because they want to please this progressive twitter crowd. If you don’t subscribe to groupthink you can lose your job now a days. THATS why I think the world revolves around Twitter randos

>>11881964
Even if it's pandering it's better than hostility. It's not like pride flags on Twitter affect you in any way

>>11881938
>I mean in all seriousness, have A Mako and a Kodiak face the same enemies and the Kodiak would always win
Lolno.

>and the Mako was the player vehicle. that for plot reasons didn't get stomped every few seconds.
It's a reasonably fast, tough and maneuverable APC with good shields and a fairly powerful gun.

You just have an irrational hatred for the thing. There is a type of players who have this reaction for whatever reason. And I'm not trying to imply these players are bad or anything like that.
One thing I did notice is most of those who hated Mako played on a console i.e. with a controller. But not all of them so there's more to it.

This argument was done to death several times a year for at least 4 years in a row while /meg/ existed.

>>11881946
>I don’t understand, is it “cool” to hate Elon Musk now?
It's always been somewhat trendy to hate on Musk mainly due to him being very outspoken and tending to over-promise on his products.

Also, I'm struggling to find the video where thunderf00t takes this image as "proof" that SpaceX is encountering significant challenges in reusing rockets. His videos aren't very well structured nor labeled.

>>11881957
>so I don't know what this fag is on about
It's common thought to think that cheap means less reliable, but he's probably just looking for any reason to throw some shade on SpaceX.

>/sfg/ where /v/ and /pol/ coexist

>>11881988
I love space x but it has attracted too many /pol/fags to /sci/

What is the correct course of action if you get a hydraulic fluid injection injury in your hand on mars?

>>11881946
He's anti-covid lockdown. Due to lockdown being a political purity test, Elon gets caught up in partisan fight.

>>11881988
They have long colonised /v/ and that was even after wave after wave of ignorant underage fucks who never once considered assimilating came there. Almost all original /v/irgins have left long ago. Such tiny snippets of interaction is all we have save for going to dead "altchans" to enjoy the closest equivalent of watching paint dry.
I won't derail further, apologies.

>>11882000
Imagine being authoritarian.

>>11881984
>It's common thought to think that cheap means less reliable, but he's probably just looking for any reason to throw some shade on SpaceX.
doesn't he realize we'll never, literally never have a space faring civilization if it costs thousands or even hundreds of dollars to send a kilogram into LEO? Or does he just not care about space exploration/colonization in general?

>>11882013
>Or does he just not care about space exploration/colonization in general?
Considering that in his Space Force video, he made a point that reaching orbit takes up so much energy relative to the amount of payload sent up there that no one should even bother with space flight. I think he doesn't really care that much.

>>11881998
Take a few rips of your Glyconic juul pods to constrict your blood vessels, and visit sickbay for an injection of morphine. After you go home just make some poppy tea, they’ll give you a recipe if you visit hydroponics. If it gets infected then oh well

>>11881983
I have you know that I'm a 70 service star LAV Commander in Battlefield 3 and 4 and with my expertise I can tell you that in ME it's shit.
Now stand down before I'll have to pull rank on you, space cadet.

>>11882027
>Not having 15 service stars with the Martini-Henry in BF1
I have the most experience here, I’ll be taking command on our Mars EVA sir

>>11881984
Over at /o/ they hate him (amongst everything else) because of Tesla, which is kind of understandable because he's bringing the advent on ICE and with that a fear of loosing individual vehicle ownership. That and because they don't build a shitbox and rather cater to the upper 20%, which aren't /o/ where you are the upper 20% if you don't ride the bus.
Long story short, a lot of people hate Tesla for various reasons and wasn't it for SpaceX I honesty wouldn't be an Elon shill either.

>>11882053
Tesla is based

>>11882043
>BF1
The only thing I'll let you take command of here is the piss trench, until you're deep enough that we can burry the Radio Isotope Thermoelectric Generator there.

>>11882057
Does anyone here own a tesla? They aren’t even that expensive but I still feel uncomfortable driving an electric car. Idk how to explain it. Like I feel like if you’re a single person with one car, it shouldn’t be a tesla

>>11882063
Lemme know when Tesla comes out with a van so I can fit my swarm.

>>11882057
Honestly I have no stakes there. I have zero personal attachment with tesla and will (hopefully) never drive a car from this century. I am very on board with getting all the non enthusiast commuters into electric cars asap and that not with taxes, but rather through convenience and in all honesty we are kind of there already if it wasn't for big oil and the old manufacturers.

>>11882074
>so I can fit my swarm.
Genuinely keked there

>>11882063
In theory I love the idea of the electric car and I test drove a Nissan leaf once and it felt amazing. That being said I LOATHE the proprietary, everything fixed at a dealer bullshit model. It's predatory as fuck and especially disgusting when considering how simple electric cars should be to work on compared to ICE. Yes cunts shouldn't be fucking around with a 50kwh battery but other than that it should be fair game and they sell you parts and a full breakdown and repair manual.

This being said every single car manufacturer is pulling the same shit now so it's not like tesla is any worse than the others.

>>11882023
So then why does he care if people are trying to do new ways of space flight if he doesn't care about it?

>>11882090
I look forward to the electric future where cars feel like spaceship entertainment systems that chat away to you like a video game companion but for now i ride a motorbike with a spanner set, cans of chain lube and oil and I appreciate the past while i can enjoy it.

>>11882101
because he's a whiny faggot

>>11882101
>>11882126
Didn't that guy get a video leaked of him shoving a banana up his ass?

>>11882130
It takes so much energy to shove a banana up one's ass relative to the cum payload achieved that no one should ever bother with bananal

>>11882130
that was TheAmazingAthiest, not Thunderf00t, they're both lulzy spergs though

>>11882130
no that was amazing athiest

Got your station-keeping fuel right here
*passes gas*

>>11882136
Imagine revolving your life around atheism

any day now bros!

Post your pimp mobiles bros.

>>11882328
That reminds me. Are there any aircraft with solar panels flush with the fuselage?

>>11882329
Is dragon an aircraft?

>>11881954
Because marketing randos and government randos for some reason listen to these retards when they start wailing and screeching.

>>11882369
>tfw a few thousand people spamming a hashtag to a few hundred thousand reply's is enough to change legislation, and how companies respond to things
>tfw every single journalist is apart of that minority
>tfw most local law makers are becoming part of that minority because of Trump

>>11882195
I like the look of the new Russian capsule, it has a nice blend of western and Russian aesthetics.

>>11881907
>Religion is sociologically beneficial

>>11881946
It's cool to hate popular things. When Musk was less famous, everybody liked him.
He's said some actually retarded stuff.
He's threatening some seriously powerful industries that will pay to slander him. If car/oil companies are willing to bribe and lie around environmental regulations, they're willing to pay for trolls and shitposters to complain about Musk.

>>11882063
I've had a model 3 for 2 years, it's the 3rd car I've owned. (Before that I had a shitty old Toyota and a decent Mazda)
The Tesla blew me away when I first drove it. It's hard to describe, but the best way to describe it is like going bareback after using condoms your whole life. there's an immediacy you have with the machine and the road. It's so quick, it handles so well, it's quiet, it's clean and nice. It feels like how a car should feel. And everything else feels like crap compared to it. I'll never go back to a gas car after that.
I don't have the performance model or anything, just the cheapest base model too.

>>11882397
It is sociologically beneficial to an individual society/tribe/nation. Islam has so many intrer-tribal schisms that it has no unity except against common enemies. And yet, its one of the most successful society organization structures in history, with more followers than almost any other. By those metrics, it is beneficial to society, even though it is morally abhorrant, violent, and destructive, and were it not for the efforts of wiser men from other theological backgrounds, would be doomed to die with this planet.

>>11882400
It's actually pretty impressive how he's managed to piss off so much of the upper echelons of so many different industries. I wonder what his security detail is like.

>>11882063
Just get a Leaf or Bolt.

>>11881975
No it isn't. You dont pander to whiny adults that act like kids. That just makes them more whiny. People lose their jobs over twitter mobs. We need to ban twitter desu

>>11882373
>>11882397
>>11882400

>They think this is somehow /sci/ or space related

Mods take a long time to do their work, jesus christ

>>11882136
>>11882159
>>11882369
>>11882373
>>11882397
>>11882400
>>11882410
>>11882415

Please >>>/pol/

Or just get the fuck out

>>11882416
Post a time-stamped picture of your physique

>>11882417
Nah

>>11882417
Why does it bother you so much?

>>11882417
Hating on Thunderf00t is a time honored tradition on /SFG/ faggot

>>11882416
>>11882417

When there is no news its just a shitposting general with space themes. The sooner you accept that the better. Maybe rebbit is more to your speed.

>>11882407
wow my first car was a toyota corolla and now I drive a mazda and the next car I was planning on getting is a model 3, very weird. good to be assured it's going to be a wise choice though

>>11882417
>mass replying

Fuck off to leddit, mass replying is pure aids.

>>11882000
Being against the lockdown in principle, in a vacuum, is retarded, but the lockdown was forever entangled with the political objectives of the democrats.

>>11881946
Space is geopolitical, now as much as ever.

>>11881824
>>11881831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsZUZmJvaM

>>11882410
Mars unironically would be a perfect god for martians
>God of war, city borders, farmers
>Father of Romulus and Remus
>Patron of the harvest
>Holds the ideals of masculinity and duty to be the greatest virtues
It would not be surprising to see a cult of Mars in at least one martian city

>>11882435
>Being against the lockdown in principle, in a vacuum, is retarded

Please, its a fucking slightly worse normal seasonal coof. There has been worse shit spreading in the past and there was no mass hysteria and economic meltdowns over it. What are we at, like 550k octogenarians and other assorted ready to kick the bucket cunts? Mate, 300k people die EVERY DAY. This meme disease has failed to even kill two days worth of people over like 8 months, give me a break.

>>11882440
Hephaestus

>>11882440
Only for ethnic italians

>>11882435
Being for the lockdown in principle, in a vacuum, is retarded.

>>11882435
No, the lockdown has been nearly entirely ineffectual since it was initiated far too late, partially the fault of the governments of the world for wavering on what to do and mostly the fault of China and WHO for deliberately obfuscating the nature of the virus and lying about critical information to forestall criticism and punishment of the CCP.
Once it was confirmed that the virus was already spreading the only possible effective measure would have been extremely rapid testing and immediate quarantine of infected individuals, this has always been by far the most powerful tool against the spread of any disease and it wasn't implemented at all.
The "two hills" style graph most countries are now seeing with one primary wave and a very drawn out very costly secondary wave is stereotypical of poor response strategy.

All this tyrannical post-spread quarantine bullshit has been a gigantic waste of time, money, and what few shreds of civil liberty are left to people.

>>11882407
>>11882412
>>11882430
I’m trying to convince my dad to order a cybertruck. He complains because he used to have a chevy that could take quite a beating with its rubber bumpers when he went hunting. He upgraded to a toyota sequoia and that shit got banged up immediately. I told him a cybertruck would be able to handle anything... but he’s in the oil & gas business and he doesn’t “believe” in electric cars

>>11882479
Just tell him he can recharge it by beating up Prius drivers and taking their batteries

>>11882479
Wait until they're actually available for test drives. That way, he can be convinced for himself, and if something goes horribly wrong, he doesn't get to rub it in your face with the loathing of ill-advised five figure purchasing decisions.

>>11882479
Cold rolled stainless steel bodied cars would be fantastic, this paint and panel business is a fucking bullshit racket.

>oh you scuffed your bumper? Well that will be 500 dollars plus taxes

Vs

>oh you scuffed your bumper? Break out the sandpaper and it's fixed in five minutes.

>>11882430
Weird coincidence, corolla was my first too! Then a Mazda 2. Then the Tesla.

>>11882493
>>11882479
The Cybertruck is so fucking weird. I still can't make up my mind about it. If I ever bought a pickup (unlikely) It would probably be a CT but I still don't know if I like the look or not.
The fact that it's all stainless steel is a bonus though. And the air compressor and the tool battery charging bapability.

>>11882504
I thought it looked absurd at first but it's kind of growing on me desu. Will be neat to see one on the road.

>>11882504
>>11882513
Just give it the saturn/space shuttle white and charcoal black color scheme and suddenly it looks great.

>>11882513
I thought it was a joke at first but it does look cool from certain angles. I like that it's a massive "fuck you" to every other truck on the road.

>>11881945
>Feels > realz
No. Go away. Get a job.

>>11882435
>Being against the lockdown in principle, in a vacuum, is retarded
Dumb. It wouldn't have worked when due to the way it was implemented in the first place. If stores like walmart and amazon can operate, why can't other local businesses and factories operate? Lockdown was never about science, it was purely about politics from the beginning. Further more, look at the fines/arrests of the store owners trying to open their business. Then look at what they're doing to police brutality protestors. This is politics 110% from the start. Lockdown was never going to work.

haha HHSMU go BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>11882557
build a prop/N2O fuel blend version of that, you have an RCS/Flamethrower combo

>>11882565
Liquid methalox tanks with hot thrusters, go hard or go home.

Real talk: if we found aliens, would you fuck one?

>>11882567
try keeping that liquid in a man-portable size, i dare you

>>11882570
What kind are we talking about here?

>>11882570
Duh. But it depends on a lot of things. Are they humanoid? Are they DNA based life forms? Do they have weird rituals like letting everybody watch the sex process or eating the male after mating?
If they were even remotely humanoid, and had a way of feeling pleasure and wanted to mate, then yeah I would do it

>>11882557
>melts your spacesuit
>nearly kills cernan in an indirect way

>>11882570
no, i'd genocide them

>>11882474
Look how Europe and the north east curves and look at the republishit states that opened too quickly.

>>11882575
Just make thicker tanks bro.

>>11882551
>muh liberties
Yeah look at how well that worked out in Florida and Arizona now that have to turn back

>>11882582
Oh no not the heckin 85 year oldarinos. Wear. The. Mask. Bigot.

>>11881839
More like 11 km/s, actually.

>>11882570
Sure.

>>11881921
>>11881930
Yes, actually. He used footage of a Booster that didn't land correctly but did get towed back to shore and had fucked engines, conveniently ignoring the condition of literally any of the successfully recovered boosters.

>>11882586
Any lockdowns or measures of any kind are immoral

>>11882603
The economy will ultimately hurt longer since now the lockdowns will have to last longer due to retarded Republicans

this general has been ruined.
Don't actually talk about the science revolving around space flight.
It took about 3 weeks for it to get absolutely destroyed.
It must be summer.

>>11882582
The way the US response was handled was flawed from the start, we could stay closed another six months and there will still be spikes in cases during reopening. There is no practical value to delays now, unless the explicit goal is to inflict permanent multigenerational damage to the economy. We're going to get a two-hill curve no matter how reopening is handled, it's difficult to say it in a way that doesn't sound callous, but for the sake of the next couple of generations the country needs to be opened now before more economic rot sets in.

>>11882608
The lockdown states will have most of the small business bankrupt. This wasn't due to covid, but rather the lockdown. The entire lockdown states are bankrupt due to unemployment rush.

>>11882608
Bootlicker rambling

>>11882608
>THIS AIRBORNE AIDS WITH A FATALITY RATE OF 0.02% AGAINST RETIREES MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COST AND EVERYTHING IS ALL DRUMPFS FAULT PLEASE IGNORE MY PARTY LETTING NIGGER HORDES RUN RAMPANT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT HELPED REDUCE THE SPREAD, ONLY WHITE PEOPLE NEED TO WEAR MASKS.

Anyone live in a place where there's basically no Covid scare?
In my province of 5 million we have between 5 and 10 new cases a day. I couldn't get covid if I tried.

>>11882616
>canned /pol/faggot response

>>11882609
Just wait for the next thread. Jannies shitting up threads are easier to spot when the thread is new.

>>11882620
No argument detected. Keep living in fear of this mild coof and take your rushed injection though.

>>11882625

>>11882589
Wearing a mask is such a harrowing experience right?

>>11882626

>>11882629

>>11882628
It's objectively forced psychological humiliation when the virus is such a joke. I would wear a mask without the government mandating it under threat of violence if this shit was actually any real danger and so would most other people who don't want to. In fact I would rather catch the coof and get an immunity certificate so that I don't have to be force injected with some botched vaccine.

>>11882628
No, but being forced to close down your family business while Bezos gets to keep his monopoly open is.

>>11882634
This. I swear I've probably already gotten that shit and gained an immunity. Was a pain in the ass, sure, but it was no Ebola concern. Shit, anyone remember when that was the pandemic of the year?

>>11882630

>>11882636
That's true but that's a whole other argument. Especially considering how the relief loans were distributed. Another way the administration shat the bed

>>11882639

>>11882634
>psychological humiliation
Is this the might of the conservatives?
Can't wear a face covering while shopping so that the people at risk are safer?

>>11882643

>>11882646

>>11882647

>>11882645
Stay home if you’re so scared dumbass

>>11881350
Curiosity is huge. How big is Perseverance?

>>11882645
Why aren't people at risk (of a meme disease) in self isolation instead of shopping at fucking walmart?

>>11881984
>Also, I'm struggling to find the video where thunderf00t takes this image as "proof" that SpaceX is encountering significant challenges in reusing rockets.
This took me WAY too fucking long to find, fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfrlfYQw_d4&t=14m10s

>>11882650
I may not be at much risk but the people you may come across while in public may be or may transit it to someone that might. I know basic human decency is a foreign concept to you but come on
>>11882652
Yeah I wonder why the boomers were protesting staying a tome. Go ask them.

>>11882625
>>11882626
>>11882629
>>11882630
>>11882639
>>11882643
>>11882646
>>11882647
>>11882649
BASED rocketposter

>>11882645
If you're at risk then you can wear a mask and social distance. Maybe don't get aids fag

>>11882657
>Yeah I wonder why the boomers were protesting staying a tome. Go ask them.

Because the ones protesting know its a bullshit meme disease and don't care about a sub 1% mortality coof.

>>11882654
Thanks, I was feeling pretty happy today.

>>11881577
On these videos it looks so tiny but when a human is put beside it it's fucking huge

>>11882657
>Dude inconvenience yourself for others

No.

>>11882651
They're pretty much the same, but Perseverance has newer/different instrumentation.

>>11882634
Why do you people think that acting like a whiny child makes you badass? Wear clothes in public. Don't fart on people. Don't masturbate in public. Don't punch random people. Wear a mask.
It's just basic common decency that was taught in cartoons and in first grade.

>>11882649

>>11882671
>Muh gubmint said to do this so do it
Nah.

>>11882666
Such an inconvenience, wearing a $0.50 mask for half an hour while shopping

>>11882673

>>11882677

>>11882677
God dammit all I want in life is to stand inside a rocket engine.

>>11882671
>comparing wearing a mask for a bullshit meme disease to dropping your pants and whacking it in public

Woah, so this is the intelligence of libtards.....

>>11882681

>>11882681
Once that Canadian battery company commercializes the Braga/Goodenough battery this kind of thing will become practical for much larger and more power hungry rocket engines, not to mention the enormous benefit to EVs and consoomer electronics.

If Trump told you to wear a mask you would be wearing one 24/7

>>11882675
>Such an inconvenience, wearing a $0.50 mask for half an hour while shopping
Yes. I reject the premise of government making people do stuff that doesn’t directly pertain to preventing aggression.

>>11882685
Electric turbopumps being actually viable would be massive boon for reusability, gas driven turbopumps are surely one of the hardest wear components of thr whole thing. But I'll hold my breath on meme battery technologies until someone actually sends out a functioning cell that is able to be produced commercially.

why the fuck are we talking about masks in /sfg/

>>11882688
Baseless claim.

>>11882577
>>11882576
>>11882570

What if they look like this?

haha raketa go fwoooooshhh

>>11882684

>>11882688
No, I wouldn't. I would wear a mask if this disease was actually a serious problem and I wouldn't be wearing this placebo tier paper junk either.

>>11882694
I'd definitely smash the pink lizard.

>>11882699

>>11882694
No
Khajiit is the patrician choice

>>11882661
>sub 1% mortality coof.
People are still hung up on the mortality rate, as though death were the worst outcome from Covid-19; it isn't. Going into the disease a healthy self supporting person and coming out an invalid on disability is both a far worse and a more common outcome than death.

>>11882706
Yeah and the rate for that is also a joke as well.

>>11882704

>NASA and Congress now doubt that a SLS vehicle will be ready by 2025 for the Europa Clipper and are now exploring options like Delta and Falcon to launch the craft
ABSOLUTE FUCKING CLOWN WORLD...
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/house-budget-for-nasa-frees-europa-clipper-from-sls-rocket/

>>11882705
based.
If I had access to dozens of gb of khajiit porn on a Mega would you want the link?

>>11882712
>NASA and Congress now doubt that a SLS vehicle will be ready by 2026
I'm glad I didn't take that bet with a friend when I was more optimistic about the SLS.

>are now exploring options like Delta and Falcon to launch the craft
FUCKING FINALLY!

>>11882714
>>11882705
Kill all furries

>>11882709

>>11882712
Fucking finally. Just defund SLS and let NASA be in charge of planetary science and manned programs.
>>11882690
Either a teenager or an unironic facebook boomer

>>11882705
omg imagine cuddling with a fluffy khaiit girl after coming home on a cold Skhrim night.
Imagine her purring while you stroke her

>>11882708
You serve your Asian masters well, anon.

>>11882721

>>11882727
Baseless assertion

>>11882728

>>11882730
Only America's enemies want us to ignore the easy means of avoiding being wracked and wrecked by this disease.

>>11882731
why don't they just put smaller rocker nozzles on the end of gas generators?
25% more rocket per rocket

>>11882722
>Either a teenager or an unironic facebook boomer

Ad hominem

>>11882731

>>11882738
A nozzle at the end of the turbo exhaust would drive of the pressure upstream into the turbo reducing the pressure drop across the turbo and thus driving down it's power. Less turbo power means less pump power means less propellant flow means less overall thrust.

Big if true.

>>11882745
noice

>>11882735
>being wracked and wrecked by this disease

Lmao

>>11882616
Based and truthpilled

>>11882731
>you'll never have near infinite resources and thousands of smart people at your disposal to build whatever cool shit you want

>>11882745
>OH GOD IM GONNA HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>11882725
i'd kill for this. Not even a furfag I just want someone to love me.

>>11882741

>>11882712
Will the Delta even be able to send it off?

>>11882745
OH FUCK OOOH AGGGHH I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

>>11882772

>>11882770
Damn, the cold realization that even if I made it to Elon’s Mars Colony, id probably still be alone like Malcolm Reed (for those of you who’ve seen star trek enterprise)

>>11882745
Is it even remotely possible that Elon could file with the FAA to get 100% permanent closures on the ground and air so he could fly whenever

>>11882786
lolno.
The retired boomers living around the place would have to be bought out en masse for that to happen and they're not having any of it.

>>11882786
I doubt it. Eventually a flight would have to fly near the site due to the shortest path to somewhere just happening to pass close by.

>>11882770
Get a girlfriend

>>11882792

>>11882792
>get a girlfriend
>while we have a job of making sure we get to Mars
lol no

>>11882814
As if some random anon has any impact on whether or not humans get to Mars. You’re a dumbass if you think colonists wouldn’t be pre-existing couples.

>>11882821
>Settling for some Terran roastie while there are hot alien bitches to colonize

>>11882821
>Colonist resume
>Status: 'Single and ready to mingle'
>Accepted as ballast

>>11882821
>You’re a dumbass if you think colonists wouldn’t be pre-existing couples.

You're fucking retarded. Finding any women to go to Mars is going to be hard enough, let alone pre existing couples where both of them have the psychological profile, necessary funds and desired skillsets. Especially since a lot of them will also have children.

>>11881006
>Why would the dems try to ax SpaceX, for tax revenue it’s gonna be a massive cash cow?

Commercial crew was started under a Democratic administration so they wouldn’t

So what I’m getting from this thread is that my geology skillz will get me to Mars and a hottie tottie offworld wifie will be waiting for me? Where do I sign up

>>11882836
Mars confirmed for gay

>>11882840
>Commercial crew was started under a Democratic administration
Ha ha ha

>>11882842
No worries, we will use artificial wombs and robo waifus to create the ultimate society, free of the female menace.

Now that I think of it, an all-male mars crew would make more sense.
We wouldn't have women ruining everything, wasting time and resources, and there'd be no unwanted pregnancies
We could have feminine traps to use as cumdumpsters (purely for psychological reasons) and for stress relief.

>>11882788
The boomers have been bought out, Boca Chica Village is now wholly owned by Spacex.

>>11882849
Judging by a recent article, that's not the case. They're still complaining about road closures and that they did not sign up for starship testing, but rather Falcon/FH launches.

>>11882845
2011, it wasn’t a success because of it though. But that alone will be enough to keep dems from axing it

>>11882329
As opposed to just on the wing?

>>11882821
Um Its most likely going to be people with nothing to lose at first. Mars is a hellhole why would you bring a family to that.

>>11882850
Imagine Elon picking everything up and moving out of Texas all because a couple of old BOI boomers don’t want to move. THE FUTURE IS NOW OLD MAN
(Sidenote, do people outside of Texas know what BOI means? I feel like we stole it from Jersey or something)

>>11882856
>boomers don’t want to move
Dispatch the nocturnal SpaceX pillow-ninjas to snuff them out.

>>11882848
Why not just bring tomboys? They're like boys, but they're actually females and are viable for squish squish to make children. Oh, and they're not gay.

>>11882859
You can see the fear emanating from Doug.

>>11882850
Weird, I could have sworn the last holdouts had sold. Are you sure it isn't just beachgoers bitching about the closures?

>>11882861
Tomboys have ceased to exist, years of LGBTBBQ has turned them into trannies.

>>11882863
The article was posted a couple of threads back, had to go through a cached copy from europe. A lot of complaints after the explosion, so it's recent. They have not sold.

>>11882863
I believe they fully brought out only the permanent residents and there are still quite a few boomers with holiday homes and such. Obviously being the greedy fucks they they will just sit on them until spacex pays them millions for their shit shack.

>>11882865
They are rare, but Shekelberg can't get them all. In fact, shekelberg wants you to be ghey so you are open to other forms of sexual degeneracy. Find the tomboys you can, and load them to mars.

>>11882861
Aren’t most female astronauts tomboys? Id be cool with someone like Sally Ride on my Starship. She’s one of the bros

>>11882855
To colonize it, dummy. Like any environment on Earth, Mars can ultimately be conquered, and a colony means babies.

>>11882855
>>11882875
Humanity grown up, it's high time to leave safety home of mother Earth and join father Mars on great adventure!

How can I further optimise this SSTO? It still underperforms, and has atrocious re-entry stability.

The high dry mass gives it a pretty limited range (circularises with roughly 2,500 m/s of delta V).
The high wet mass means it struggles to reach the critical speed needed for Rapier engines to be effective.
Using nuclear engines means I have to do a very long burn to land on the Mun (wasting so much fuel I can't leave), and I can't reduce the amount of oxidiser or spare any for landing because the nuclear engines aren't enough to circularise.
Using Whiplash+Rapier increases in-atmosphere performance, but it comes at a severe cost to the speed I exit the atmosphere with, which eliminates the benefits of improved TWR and reduced fuel consumption (and yes, I do remember to add more air intake).

Besides the terrible re-entry performance, this would at least work excellently departing from a Minmus fuelling station (uses a fuel hose instead of docking thanks to a mod).

>>11883003
Remove nuclear engine and replace with LV-909, reduction in dry mass should make up for reduction in Isp.

>>11883003
Add boosters.

>>11883003
move your payload bay to the middle of your craft
I use whiplash+aerospike and then refuel with minmus fuel for my SSTO

>>11883003
Replace the rockets with liquid hydrogen oxygen motors, add solid rocket boosters (not reusable), and move the fuel to a separate tank for safety reasons

>>11883003
ram air intakes instead of shock cones? shock cones are heavier and don't do anything better than ram air

https://youtu.be/6kV_f2jjeVI?t=2535

>>11883009
No, they won't.
Plus I'd be far better off with a Poodle anyway since that'd help with my atrocious TWR.

>>11883024
I guess that'd perhaps reduce how much my fuel level affects my centre of mass. Btw, is there a way to easily see how the centre of mass moves with different fuel levels, other than draining every tank manually?

>>11883028
You sure they don't have less drag or something? Surely shock cones have a benefit?

>>11883037
they work better at speeds above where any of the engines work
ram air better matches the performance of the stock engines
trying to get your SSTO beyond LKO without using an upper stage is kinda stupid imo

>>11883037
also, aerospike >> terrier
I don't think a poodle will fit lol