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It took Lisa Piccirillo less than a week to answer a long-standing question about a strange knot discovered over half a century ago by the legendary John Conway.

>https://www.quantamagazine.org/graduate-student-solves-decades-old-conway-knot-problem-20200519/

>> No.11856900

Conway would have appreciated seeing this, fuck covid19.

>> No.11856906

>>11856891
ho no no no, it's not "le white 7 years old 150 IQ boy who solves everything" episode.

>> No.11856908

>>11856891
>imaginary knots
Is this what mathematicians are doing nowadays? What a load of useless shit, how do they even get funding? They just fuck around and have everyone fooled that they're doing some kind of important work when they're just tying stupid knots with their mind. What the fuck could you even use that knot for?
The only knots you need are a bowline, round turn and two half hitches, reef knot, figure of eight and clove hitch.

>> No.11856921

>>11856908
Math is imaginary to begin with. Reality is physical, not mathematical.

>> No.11856925

>>11856908
fuck off back to >>>/pol/

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>>11856908

>> No.11856954
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>>11856891

>> No.11856956
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11856956

I'd fuck her if only she didn't look 38 years old

>> No.11856957

>>11856954
go back, Achmed

>> No.11856963

>>11856891
>she

>> No.11856964

>>11856956
found the micropenis

>> No.11856967

>>11856891
If it were Louis Piccarillo and not Lisa, would an article be written about him?

>> No.11856973

>>11856967
>idk
go back to 9gag

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>>11856956
She looks like Kim (without makeup) in better call Saul

>> No.11856985

She's probably just into bondage and her daddy forgot how to untie the knot. So she had to come up with a solution.

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>>11856976
Hmm now that's an interesting take. But idk if I'd fuck Kim Wexler, the same way I wouldn't fuck Laura Palmer. Too much respect? I guess there's a good humanized element to the characters. Perhaps the real reason I wouldn't fuck the graduate student is because she seems real and genuine.

>> No.11856994

>>11856925
>>11856957
>>11856964
>>11856973
Wow. Simps belong in >>>/reddit/

>> No.11857001

I read this a few weeks ago. I don't know shit about knots, but the knot basically looks like tracing exactly the same path but "turning back" at the end and wrapping exactly the invert path side by side, making it a doubled knot (two "fibers"). Is that "revolutionary"?

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>>11856994
cope incel

>> No.11857008

>>11857001
protip: higher dimensions

>> No.11857012
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>>11856993
You don't fuck Laura Palmer because pic related might hunt you

>> No.11857014

>>11856891
Good for her.

>>11856908
>no square
lmfao fuck off knotlet.

>> No.11857019

>>11857008
But they mention this is a low dimension problem, and they show the actual knots being studied.

>> No.11857026

"What's your favorite area of math?"
"Knot theory"
"I don't like theory either".

>> No.11857030

>>11857012
pic related has already been hunting and killing us all anon, and it's been doing so ever since 1956

>> No.11857065

>>11857014
>no square
that's what a reef knot is you fucking pseud boy scout

>> No.11857076

Good on her.

>be in knot field
>first learn about conway problem in 2018
yeah something doesn't add up.

>> No.11857081

>>11857065
>no monkey fist

>> No.11857101

>>11857081
>hurrr can you tie a monkey fist
this is a midwit tier knot, equivalent to normies talking about Schrodinger's cat to sound smart.
It's practically not very useful; all the god tier knots were already listed except maybe for sheet bend

>> No.11857107

>>11857076
>i can't even add

>> No.11857113
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>>11856908
>tying your shoes with a reef knot

>> No.11857117

>>11857101
sure thing retard. You think a fucking square knot isn't the absolute peak of the bell curve of midwitticism?

The monkey fist is one of the most patrician knots in Western civilization. As are the cobra and the double windsor.

>> No.11857128

>>11857117
>fucking square knot
you brought that up, faggot
The bowline is the best knot there is, hands down. If you think otherwise then you're the definition of a pseudo boy scout who's never had to use a knot for anything other than tying his own shoe-laces

>> No.11857132

>>11857113
just wear velcro dumbass

>> No.11857136

>>11857128
>The bowline
Damn, you need to level up pleb. That's like saying pi is the best math.

>> No.11857142

>>11857136
well tell me a knot that's more widely applicable, doesn't come undone yet is easy to untie even after being under pressure
There isn't one, hence bowline is the best fucking knot there ever is or will be

>> No.11857143

>>11856891
Anyone gonna show us the knot in question?

>> No.11857148

>>11856906
no no no it's le nig male still finds time between rape woman and stabbing of another black male to solve math problem

>> No.11857161

>>11857142
What a sad gray world you live in.
If you can't outgrow your plebeian bowline fetish, at least learn to mix it up a bit with the yosemite or water variants.

>> No.11857186

>>11857161
well sure but in terms of application the basic bowline is much more widely useful, you only need those for extra security
they still count as bowlines anyway, so my point stands

>> No.11857193

>>11856891
Absolutely based. I have a new mathfu.

>> No.11857210

>>11857186
I agree that the basic bowline is the plebbest of all knots.

>> No.11857217

>>11857143
no, search engines and wikipedia just don't exist yet
come back in 50 years

>> No.11857233

>>11857210
>still no argument

>> No.11857236

>>11856891
>white women
>knot
Of course, it's their favorite past time.

>> No.11857240

>>11856891
Am I the only one who thinks 'she' looks like a tranny? Wide shoulders, flat as a board, strong jaw/chin...

>> No.11857242

>>11856908
>The only knots you need are a bowline, round turn and two half hitches, reef knot, figure of eight and clove hitch
I'M A REAL PRACTICAL CUNTRY BOY GUYS, LOOK AT HOW PRACTICAL AND USEFUL I AM GUYS. I DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT I'M CRITICIZING, BUT I SWEAR I CAN DELINEATE USEFUL FROM USELESS.
Knot theory has applications in CS and physics via Jones polynomials, partition functions for braids in statistical mechanics, chirality and spectral graph theory in chemistry, and almost all of Dehn's work.

>> No.11857264

>>11857242
>t. can't tie a sheepshank

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>>11857242
>knot theory has applications to other bullshit nobody cares about, and also you don't actually need knot theory to do it

>> No.11857289

>>11857233
Argument about what? Your taste in knots is dismal, and I agree that the bowline is a perfect fit for a man of your sensibilities.

>> No.11857295
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>>11857240
Cutting your dick off is a small price to pay for tenure track, especially in THIS job market. I'd be tempted too if I were some incel math nerd working in fucking knot theory in 2020 lmao

>> No.11857301

>>11857289
whatever you say, pleb
stick to your useless meme knots that you can show your friends at school

>> No.11857313
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>>11856908

based

>> No.11857324

>>11857301
And you to the clockwork tedium of your bowline.

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>“I said, ‘What?? That’s going to the Annals right now!’” Gordon said, referring to Annals of Mathematics

>> No.11857432

Ten years ago it wouldn't have dawned on me to ask this question but are you sure that's a female?

>> No.11857541

>>11856891
I wanna sniff those armpits

>> No.11857543

>>11856908
BASED

>> No.11857631

>>11856891
my eyes do the same thing what does it mean?

>> No.11857634
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>>11857143

>> No.11857855

>solves "legendary" problem in 2018
>check publication
>13 citations
not usually that guy, but wtf? Was the importance of the problem attributed only to how long it was unsolved?

>> No.11857868

>>11857855

its just a push by her advisor and to get more females into faculty
there are almost no people in very esoteric fields so any work you do could contain mistakes which nobody will notice and even if some may recognize thje they may overlook them especially if you have a princeton math prof. in your back as your advisor
in other words: they just wanted to promote a female prof to MIT and needed some clout to do it

i am generally very suspicious of publications from people who are advised by famous or powerful professors

>> No.11857880

>>11857631
You have eye ebola

>> No.11857890

>>11857868
Is knot theory that esoteric? I mean, Conway worked on it.

>> No.11857895

>>11856900
:(

>> No.11857923

>>11857385
>"... Yes, the Annals of Mathematics... That's what I meant..."

>> No.11857926

>>11857890

conways work is largely esoteric. thats the reason he almost got no significant awards (fields, abel prize) even though he is very very popular (mostly due to game of life)

>> No.11857948

>>11856908
t. engineer

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11857953

*listens to discipline once*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnnUIveM-e0

>> No.11857961

>>11857926
I really don't think her proof is a hoax anon. It got accepted by peer review, it's in a journal, the article said other mathematicians were even going to use it as foundational work.

>> No.11857975

>>11856908
kek

>> No.11857976
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Yeah I solved the Riemann hypothesis in like an hour after I watched a youtube video about it. Where's my name in the Anals?

>> No.11857996

>>11857976
you'll be in the anals

>> No.11858100

>>11856891
>less than a week

Sure thing, woman

>> No.11858127

>woman
>interested in knots

/trash/ knew it since the beginning.

>> No.11858220

>>11856908
>only knots you need
You miss most of the shibari ones. Because trust me, those are pretty much need-to-know

>> No.11858232

>>11857996
but i want to be in the Anals with a capital A

>> No.11858243

>>11857855
It's a niche field that got published less than a year ago, 13 citations is pretty good actually. Math subfields are not like cancer/health research which get hundreds of citations almost instantly.

>> No.11858251

>>11857143
knot today.

>> No.11858278
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>>11856891

b a s e d flatchested woman

>> No.11858419

>>11856908
Dangerously based

>> No.11858614

>>11858278
I bet she has chunky nips.

>> No.11858719

>>11856976
stop

>> No.11858988

>>11857242
Chemfag here

How does knot theory help us with chirality and shit?

Also bowline is the best knot

>> No.11858994

>>11857242
How do those applications help us? Genuine question. I would like to know more about this stuff.

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>>11856891
>white woman
>knot

this site has ruined me

>> No.11859729

>>11858994
Let me just cut to the chase... they don't.

>> No.11859739

>>11856900
This is actually not a joke...

>> No.11859746

>>11857236
werewolves are hot, shut up

>> No.11859749

>>11857240
No, a few other /pol/cels who never go outside also share your thoughts.

>> No.11859930
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11859930

>>11856891
i'd knot in her slice

>> No.11860246

>>11856908
this but unironically
the fact that MIT gives tenure for some shitty 10 page knot result is part of the reason STEM is going to shit

>> No.11860328

>>11856891
>white woman
>obsessed with knotting and knots
pottery, no wonder they like dogs for so much

>> No.11860637

>>11858127
>>11859161
>>11860328
muslim or asian hands typed these posts

>> No.11860649
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>>11856891
Somehow it feels strange that a female was able to solve a problem which even male mathematicians had problems with for so long.
Shit I am a fucking bigot, what has these board done to me.

>> No.11860652

>>11856891
not from /sci/, why should i give a fuck

>> No.11860666

>>11856891
Mannish female stem students with high prenatal testosterone levels will save us all one day

>> No.11860696

>>11856891
Her tentacle rape monster fetish payed dividends...

>> No.11860739

>>11860652
Because a woman is better than you.

>> No.11860883

>Her proof made use of Rasmussen's s-invariant, and showed that the knot is not a slice knot.[7]

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>>11856908

>> No.11861240

>>11856891
This is now an image processing thread. This girl's shirt is thin enough to x-ray using editing tools. I'll be back in 30 minutes.

>> No.11861282

WAHMEN POWER HELL YEARRRRRRRR

>> No.11861367

>>11857953
holy fuck I liked what I've heard from KC before but this is fookn CHOON LAD, many thanks

>> No.11861381
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>>11861240

>> No.11861389

>>11861367
Enjoy anon, the whole album has that vibe to it.

>> No.11861394

>>11861282
The only people who hate successful women in math are the male failures.

>> No.11861403

THAT'S A MAN, BABY

>> No.11861421

>>11861381
Beautiful work, anon.

>> No.11861424

>>11856908
This but unironically. Mathematicians are the most useless group of "scientists" out there.

>> No.11861429

>>11861403
Looks like a woman to me. Lots of white woman have strong jaws.

>> No.11861437

Why would any fucking sane person decide to become a mathematician? And no, math is not fucking art.

>> No.11861445

>>11856891
Why there is no problem statement in the OPpost? How are we to appreciate this cunts efforts then?

>> No.11861460

>>11861437
because it's fun

>> No.11861473
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11861473

>>11861394
>The only people who hate successful women in math are the male failures.

>> No.11861478

>>11861437
because it's beautiful

>> No.11861507

>>11861473
I guess Hilbert was a simp, and so were most of the pre-1950s mathematicians.

>> No.11861539

>>11861507
those fuckin male mathematicians man

>> No.11861846

>>11861240
clearly wearing a bra.
you could shoop nipples on anything and call it "xray"

>> No.11861920

>>11861381
She looks like 40yrs old, is math this bad for your look?

>> No.11862034

>>11856891

Female Fields medalist Maryam Mirzakhani's (RIP) work made use of the topological object known as a pair of pants. I'm starting to unironically think that women have good mathematical intuition for topology (think of knitting, embroidery, the manufacturing of clothing). I would distinguish this aptitude from geometry and certain forms of spatial reasoning, becuase we know that women aren't quite as good at those.

>> No.11862088

>>11861920
No. It's the weight of analytical thought. Something that is typically hard to fake.

>> No.11862099

>>11856900
Damn, I didn't know he died. Old bastard should have quarantined himself. New York and New Jersey really fucked the whole thing up.

>> No.11862105
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>>11862034
Thousands of years of selecting for good loomers.

>> No.11862106

>>11861381
It's been a while.

>> No.11862201

>>11857855
Nobody is talking about legendary problems in the article.

>> No.11862210

>>11858243
yeah, honestly I don't think many anons here are studying pure mathematics .

>> No.11862221

>>11857855
lol
>wahmen solves IMPORTANT problem! WAHMEN POWER!!!1
>actually it was a problem nobody gave a shit about for a long time

>> No.11862232

>>11856891
I'd fuck her

>> No.11862237

>>11862232
I'd fuck a catchers mitt if it had a pulse.

>> No.11862238

>>11862237
Yes you would, Tony

>> No.11862915

>>11857236
>white women
She's italian though.

>> No.11862951

>>11857868
>>11862221
now this is peak cope

>> No.11862954

>>11861437
honest reply,
the satisfying part of mathematics is being able to solve problems 100%. When you proof something you truly know it is true, always. That's satisfying

>> No.11862957

>>11862034
yea what the fuck, I noticed too that there are more women in topology in other fields.

>> No.11862969

>>11858988
The mathematician is the butcher, he/she makes a variety of cuts from a variety of animals. (You) the non-mathematicians are the customers and consumers that come in and pick what you want.

>> No.11862972

>>11859930
Keep doing God's work anon

>> No.11863638

>>11860649
>Somehow it feels strange that a female was able to solve a problem which even male mathematicians had problems with for so long.
Had problems with or didn't give a shit about?

>> No.11863640

>>11862957
They often are booblets, are they trying to compensate or something?
Are they trying to improve their personal topology?

>> No.11863641

>>11862954
I miss the age when this was able to apply to the real world.

>> No.11863645

>>11862957
maybe they just want to work in a field with other women

>> No.11863652

>“He started yelling, ‘Why aren’t you more excited?’” said Piccirillo, now a postdoctoral fellow at Brandeis University. “He sort of freaked out.”

I love how "accomplished" mathematicians make themselves look like attention whores whenever a person humbly points something out

>> No.11863699

>>11858988
Bowline is not "best". It has many uses but it hardly a universal knot, and it comes undone way too easily for many applications when unloaded. At least learn a hitch, mid loop and bend as well. And if the application requires security with a variable and sometimes zero load, use a double bowline/water bowline.

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11863732

fuck knots
t.

>> No.11864012

>>11863699
>universal knot
What is a universal knot? There really aren't any, but bowline certainly is a contender for the most widely applicable - particularly if you include the variants you describe for more secure purposes.

>> No.11864024

>>11857240
Yeah, to the point that I actually went looking for other pics to compare.
But I'm attracted to women that look like trannies (but aren't).

>> No.11864027

>>11857026
kek

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>>11856908

>> No.11864120

>>11863732
dangerously based

>> No.11864199

>>11863640

"Topography" is the better word. Flat chests are homeomorphic to titcows.

>> No.11864202

>>11862915
this is a white fucking woman

>> No.11864303
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What is it white white women and knots?

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>>11856891
I clicked for some IRL Kusanagi, but found a probable tranny instead. Such are these times.

>> No.11864388

>>11864199
>homeomorphic to titcows
We did it, everyone. We're part of 4chan now.

>> No.11864458

>>11856908
This guy gets it.

I stopped caring about math when I was introduced to the concept of imaginary numbers. What a crock of shit. If your equation can only be solved by inventing numbers that can't exist, like some kind of math deity , then you are fucking wrong and the math is flawed. Same for algebra solutions that basically say "the correct answer is whatever the correct answer is". Thats what the math said transcribed to words but god forbid if i wrote in down in english instead of the ancient math runes the teacher word mark me wrong.

Math is logical and numbers never lie my ass. Math is just as flawed as any other human construct.

>> No.11864462

>>11864458
BASED

>> No.11864562

>>11862201
I'm taking about the published proof referred to in the article