/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11803452
Probably, assuming humanity makes it that far without any catastrophic events. If you're born in the year 2099, you probably won't age much past your 20s or 30s, or will age far more slowly.

>>11803452
Consider this: how many centuries of peoples' bullshit do you want to have to endure?
Seriously, you reach a point where it's the same shit over and over again so many times that you just want it to end.
Also do you really want the same rich old people to be around forever, amassing more and more money, influence, and power? Spreading the same bullshit farther and farther?
It's a losing proposition.
Also there's overpopulation. If people don't age, they're going to keep having kids. Eventually there won't be enough resources to go around.
The only way it makes any sense at all is if you accept being sterilized in exchange for not aging.

he's pretty cute imo

>>11803452
Mice who eat every other day live 30% longer

>>11803811
Quality of life >>> quantity of life

>>11803811
mice anatomy isnt close to human anatomy

>>11803804
yea woudd smash with the costume on

and thats not gay

>>11803804
WILL YOU ASSHOLES STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME GAY! IT'S NOT FUNNY!

never, it's a hopeless goal
senescence research has not had ANY progress despite all the effort and money poured

>>11803818
Bruh.

>>11803452
Yes. I will live to see it.

>>11803820
>>11803822
It's her.

>>11803818
>mouse study pointless, human dont even look like mouse!
the absolute state of /sci/

>>11803452
I would literally sell my left nut to smother myself to death in her ass. The idea of her ass sweat seeping through that costume into my face after she goes for a long jog is pure ecstasy. I would let her kick me in the balls all day long just for the chance to lap up some of her spit off the floor.

>>11803452
Absolutely not. We've seen 0 advances in this area so far.

>>11803816
Are you trying to say those mice live longer WHILE being less healthy? That's not how lifespan works.

>>11803452
No

>>11803848
this

>>11803897
i think he's equating pigging out on food as often as possible with high quality life

>>11803803
Just abolish Apefrica

>Will old age really be cured by the end of this century?
No. It is dirty to try to rob the youth by artificially prolonging the longevity of the older generations. The grass should grow for its season and then wither and die to make room for the new grass.

Aging will be a solved problem a year after you die.

>>11803452
Gene Therapy will solve it in the next 30 years.

>>11805231
If we can just ship all the new grass to another planet it should be fine, pussy

>>11803804
I'll cut you

>>11805259
So what you're telling me is eventually we'll have a planet of MILFs?

>>11805259
Planets are a terribly inefficient way of supporting life.

>>11805291
We already have a planet full of MILFs

>>11803818
I get what you're trying to convey, but anatomy is not the right word here.

>>11805231
There will be no youth in such case, or at least not as many.

>>11803803
>>11805292

But can't increasing health span actually be the solution to the overpopulation problem? Today with geriatrics medicine and typical nursing home strategies we are already prolonging lifespan dramatically without an accompanying increase in time spent in good health. So we already have an ever increasing population of elderly people who can't work and are basically a money sink to the economy. Solving aging would atleast allow these people to be healthy and contribute. We have to acknowledge that overpopulation also depends on the health and agency of the population.

>>11805300
None of whom would touch me with a 50ft barge pole

>>11805495

>>11803803
Everything you said is a little detail.

>>11805589
Ebola and Corona should have fixed this but no, poor poor nibbers get saved by UNICEF. Seriously, any species that grows like a cancer the way they are naturally gets mass murdered by some disease sooner or later, and Africans get saved by whites for no good reason other than sympathy points.

Fuck man, we should designate Africa a separate planet and impose the No Interference Act on it in case any intelligence develops there.

>>11803452
i can cure all diseases and even old age. for a meager 4.5 million dollars i will personally administer a 9mm bullet to your brain

>>11803452
It better be I want to cum unprotected inside her pussy for all eternity

All of these "but removing aging would be bad" arguments are so tiring. People like Aubrey de Grey have shot these things down for ages.

Almost everyone making these arguments would find themselves taking these treatments once they start aging. If you're going to be alive, why not live in a healthy body? And if you're alive and in a healthy body, why would you want to die? You're always going to want to be like "well, I can stick around one more year" at the end of every year. If you wanted to stop, you would've just committed suicide long ago.

Suicide is still an option in this long-term future, and should be legalized. But let everyone else live healthy lives as long as they want to live.

The future of humanity is probably bright, and if so, biological immortality will make it much brighter. In 500 years, assuming humans still exist, kids will read in books that people used to just slowly decay and die and be horrified and so thankful that they were born into a much better world, just like we look back at the average peasant 500 years ago and marvel at how much better life in our world is.

>>11803803
>The only way it makes any sense at all is if you accept being sterilized in exchange for not aging.
Nobody here was going to have kids anyway.

>>11803452
god I hope, I wanna live under her forever

>>11807394
My son might disagree with that statement. You only get one life, anon, go get yourself a bf or gf.

>>11805271
>>11803822
>>11803820
>not sure if samefag or just like-minded retards

>>11803837
cope

>>11803803
Just because we find a way to live longer or forever doesn't mean that humans will suddenly stop going to war. Populations will thin themselves.

>>11803452
Currently we can halt aging at the cost of becoming a cancer-factory, which is clearly not desirable. The reason this happens is because aging is the natural antidote to cancer, the reason you get wrinkles is because cell lineages have a stopping point known as the Hayflick limit, after which they can no longer reproduce.

If we were able to somehow play with genetics to prevent cancer from occurring, without using aging as the natural antidote, I suppose aging can be eradicated. With this however comes huge risk, because people will probably postpone reproduction which will have a profound effect on our evolutionary ecosystem.

To put it in other terms, you can't compete unless you're innovating at a similar rate to your competition. So whilst anti-aging may seem very attractive at the level of the individual, it will be to the detriment of the lineage.

>>11803452

>>11803452
Old age cured in your lifetime. How convenient

>>11808880
If you mean telomerase, it is clearly not the cause of aging.
First, quickly replicating tissues lose telomeres only as much as slowly replicating tissues, contrary to what you would expect.
Second, while telomeres do get shorter with age, it's only statistically so. The overlap is so high you cannot estimate person's age with any certainty from telomeres alone.

>>11803818
purely statistically speaking, if you do not bet on mice studies you're a fucking retard

>>11804630
Eating food is pleasurable.

>>11803452
Unironically yes.

>>11809178
In 50 or so years when you are deteriorating, yet still with enough awareness and cogency to realize you are inexorably heading towards the void, in the light of which all of your accomplishments and earthly strivings suddenly reveal themselves to have been so inconsequential now in the face of complete oblivion, remember this in between your half recalled memories of fading faces, places, and spaces which will die with you:

I will seek out your grave and cum on it. (my grandfather lived to be 87 so I'll probably outlive you peace)

>>11803452
Coin flip odds in my opinion.

The likelihood that one of us in this thread will live to see the day when old age is cured is maybe better than that, but it need not occur in this century. If that happens in, say, 2120, but by the end of 2190, the average lifespan is 150, then we may still live to see eternal youth.

Hard to say for sure.

>>11809189
2090* not 2190.

>>11803452
its very close in historical terms, you should be happy for humanity. even if its in 3000 years from now its basically instant in terms of history.

but if youre just a selfish piece of shit who is only worried about his own experience of pain and pleasure then no, fuck you, youll be lucky if you dont see an extreme economic recesion in your life time

>>11808962
Then how do you explain the absence of senescence in lab-mice with elongated telemores? Additionally, just because you can't use some value to measure age does not mean that it doesn't contribute to aging. I can't tell the height of a pile of sand when I only know how many grains are in it, because it depends on a combination of factors, but stating that the amount of grains does not contribute to this value is utterly nonsensical

>>11809189
do you think end of ageing will be more or less instant, meaning that it will suddenly make everyone inmortal with perfect body and mind functioning?

or say, it will create people that live to 250 year old but like shit

or people who live until 150 year old with the functioning of a 60-70 year old person

or people who live the same as now but keeping the functioning of a 50 year old person?

or people who live the same as today but keep say, the functions of a 30 year old well into their 70s

or even, if there were some treatment that allowed you to keep your 20s vigor up until youre 70 but then you quickly decay?


how will it look? which one of these paths will be?
i think people are just as concerned about quality of life or even more concerned about that than time.
if you could live 120 but keep the vigor of your 20 until the end it would be a gigantic improvement

>>11808900
i will fuking murder EVERYONE for this cunt just to hold me down and peg the FUCK out of me

>>11809404
someone swat this guy for the love of god

>>11809404
>peg
She doesn't look like she needs an artificial one.

>>11809319
I don't explain it, because I'm not aware of anything like that being done.
Your analogy makes no sense.

>>11809307
Why do you care if he is selfish? Do you expect everyone to virtue signal like you?

>>11809471
this anon is on it

Aging will be cured within 30 years. AI research will do almost all of the work in the last 2 years of those 30. It will seem impossible for the longest time then it will all come together very quickly.

>>11809471
what the fuck? im just talking about reality. Are you left wing by any chance? because you are forcefully trying to install something that no one was mentioning. My virtue was not on the table or being discussed at all. Stop projecting your fetishes pleaxy ploxy plox


>>11809480
cringey samefag, your mother is ashamed you were born

>>11809497
>cringey samefag
is that sum tasty delicious insecurity?

>>11809497
>pleaxy ploxy plox

>>11809507
>>11809512
fantastic, youre not ashamed to exist, even on the internet. And you didn't deny being left wing. I guess the world is going towards lower and lower levels of subhumans. Its fun to know i could take anything from you at any time, that is if you by chance had something of value.

>>11809465
The fact that you're not aware of this is quite telling anon, read bret weinstein's publications on lab mice

>>11809526
holy fuck you're trying way too hard

>>11809319
The results are extremely suspect. First the results seem absurd, there is no reason why telomeres should change metabolism that way, and absolutely no reason why it should have any positive effects on mitochondria, which have circular DNA and need no telomeres.
Second, it seems the conteols are not actual controls, but merely genetically identical mice that didn't come through any of the process. Controls should go through all the procedures as closely as possible, with only the crucial steps modified.
Also why the cancer?

>>11809543
I cannot post the link, BTW, so you have to look it up yourself.

>>11808818
>her

>>11809075
so is heroin

>>11809543
You can only control with wild mice of the same species, which are hard to come by. The reason for this is because all lab-mice have been artificially selected for elongated telomeres. This research is still quite controversial as it compromises a fuckton of work which relies on the assumption that lab-mice are what they used to be when we first caught them in their native environments. Can't remember the publication but just google for bret weinstein if you want the full scoop

>>11809547
Put link into pastebin or something similar, post link to that instead.

It would lead to overpopulation and a boomer run world. Boomers would run the world forever like that.

>>11809636
That has nothing to do with what I said. I mean that controls need to go through the same procedure, only with the crucial parts changed/omitted. Otherwise it's just a random group of mice, not a control.
>>11809655
Here you go. Believe or not pastebin also accused me of spamming, but let me post anyway.
https://pastebin.com/bkb8XeWy

>>11809189
>Coin flip odds in my opinion
You're right, either it happens or it doesn't

>>11809404
Holy FUCK I'm so hard right now fucking this

>>11803452
If it means I can bang that Asuka cosplayer, sure. But Misato is still bestgirl.

>>11803452
Lets hope not.
I personally can't wait to die, and don't want to live in an era where memories are copyrighted and we all live as brains in a jar.

>>11810520
>I personally can't wait to die
make sure to call a help line if you're feeling suicidal or having suicidal thoughts

>don't want to live in an era where memories are copyrighted
I don't actually think that will happen, too much push back from the public

>we all live as brains in a jar.
Not gonna happen

So cheer up anon! And learn to love life by getting pegged by >>11803452
>>11808900

>>11803452
I sure fucking hope not, or that I'm 6 feet under by the time it happens. The ramifications this shit would have for class, government, and population is something I don't ever want to adapt to.

>>11803452
replace cells with nanobots
simple as

>>11803452
Yes OP, coffee is very good for your health

>>11803803
Then just stop doing hte same thing over and over. Would life as it is now really be how it is once people have near immortality? I believe the goals of life will change to fit our new lifespans. A career will no longer be a means to just survive and perhaps leave a mark on the world so you can die happy or what ever. Long term goals can get extremely longer. And with long lifespans you have time to enjoy space and at the very least explore the sol system. People like you don't seem to be very creative on how to handle putting off death. As if you expect it already. There is absolutely no reason why technological immortality can't come along and it's starting to seem inevitable. Which only further complicates that special paradox us space bois like to poke at.

>>11803804
>he
mfw already fapped

>>11809461
if it helps him think it isn't gay let him call it pegging.

>>11812460
why do redditors think this meme was ever funny or internalized by this site’s subconscious? you have to force the meme into inappropriate contexts just for it to have any presence at all

>>11812536
It's not that. The natural dick ought to feel better than the artificial one.

>>11804630
I'm sure respiratory issues, lack of energy, and lack of mobility are all signs of a high quality life.

>>11812573
Do some experiments and report back your findings. I envision some thing like the pepsi challenge but with dicks.

>>11803452
I hope not. That would be a disaster!

>>11803452
can the research make me look like an anime girl

>>11812496
That's Maria Fernanda, a female not a tranny
The 'morphed' hips are stupid silicon injections which are illegal because you can easily die from them

>>11803452
I don't know of lot of people around me who I think have anything worth keeping around for a thousand years, my included. Human lifespans are fine as is.

>>11809187
I won’t have a grave though, since I won’t die of old age, your argument doesn’t make much sense

>>11812793
So how many years do you expect to live? 500? 5,000? 200,000,000?

>>11812699
yes + cat girls also

>>11813247
this is all i need

I hope I'm not alone in this, but I am pretty ok with 70 to 90 year life span. I've spent a lot of time around the elderly and those who are on their way out, and even the ones who still want to keep living have a begrudging acceptance that 90 years of human existence is more than enough. The brevity of my conscious experience motivates me to do more, be better, connect with my fellow humans in this short time we have. Like procrastination, an endless existence may breed complacency in our species that is certainly not needed for us to be at our best.

For me, the longest I would want to live would be 105. That way I could say I lived in two millennia and three centuries. Think about how many people in our species' history have done that.

>>11812839
Yes.

>>11812042
Show me a nanobot

>>11812559

>>11813631
How much is it because they've been sick for years, even decades? If you offered them to be young again, how many of them would refuse?

>>11814624
Some of them were perfectly healthy, my grandfather is still alive at 87 walks about three miles a day. When I spoke to him about it he said he was sad he wouldn't get to meet his great grandchildren but that he was ready and willing to go whenever the time comes. He said he had fun in his youth, but he wouldn't trade all those years to just be 21 again.

Speaking for myself, but I find immense appeal in being dead. I'm not actively seeking death, I'm not depressed or suicidal, but death is a void of experience that I'm fascinated to 'feel'.

>>11814892
>He said he had fun in his youth, but he wouldn't trade all those years to just be 21 again.
That's not the same as refusing to be vigorous again with no downsides. No one in their right might would turn that down.

>>11815024
Sure, but you're being naive if you think there won't ever be any downsides. Never mind potential medical side effects, would you accept youthful vigor if it meant centuries of crippling loneliness? Would you accept it if your life partner decided they wanted to die and you didn't?

In my opinion our existence is only made meaningful by our engagements with other people. The person who could sustain the onslaught of time with no consideration for what they may lose is exceedingly rare or exceptionally narrow-minded.

It would be cool to be known as the ancient one and have people attend a pilgrimage to my bitchin' temple on some distant world, then I give them some sage advice and do a lil bit of hokey mysticism.

>>11815045
>centuries of crippling loneliness?
Not guaranteed in any way. Social fags would absolutely find a way to socialize at the very least with other long-lived. Introverted fags would just keep doing what we do best.

>Would you accept it if your life partner decided they wanted to die and you didn't?
Almost certainly. There is so much interesting in process of being discovered and even more in full on terra incognita.
Plus I'd have all the time in the world to find people I can get along with and whom I consider decent enough beings to help them grow. As things stand, this is not only a statistically minuscule probability but time is damn scarce as well.

>sustain the onslaught of time
I'll buy it when I'll see it.

>It would be cool to be known as the ancient one and have people attend a pilgrimage to my bitchin' temple on some distant world, then I give them some sage advice and do a lil bit of hokey mysticism.
Hopefully it is medium impairing communication, but ego is usually the enemy of wisdom.

>>11815078
This anon is on it. All of these 'potential downsides' are possible, but not guaranteed. It's like saying you should NOT ask a girl out because she 'might' reject you.

>>11809015
Why is that?

>>11803452
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH DEAR GOD GET ON MY FUCKING DICK RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>11803452
>Will old age really be cured by the end of this century?

Existing life won't be prolonged much because you are going against the second law of thermodynamics. Much more likely is that you will have something like regeneration in Doctor Who.

You'll lay down on the table, and wake up being 4 ft 10, and lugging around knockers that the computer insists that you asked for.

>>11803452
If it is, it won't be for you or me.

>>11809646
>the internet is serious business

>>11812559
Because newfags were never properly enculturated and have been raising a new generation of retards.

no

I don't know about us, but god damn we'll keep this thread alive

>>11803452
WHY DO THOSE PROPORTIONS MAKE ME SO FUCKING HARD

>>11803452
We must do everything to claw away at this opportunity. We only have this one consciousness to transcend to immortality. Imagine cucking yourself and dying just for some dumb stacy born one generation after you to get access to life extension. WE HAVE TO DO THIS

>>11818362
It's because you're not an elf.
good for you.

>>11803452
No. None of you are worth it. I'll try again next reincarnation, but after that I'm done with this planet.

>>11803452
>>Will old age really be cured by the end of this century?
>COVID comes
lolno

>>11812600
he's talking from experience

>people saying they don’t want to live forever
if aging is cured you are still allowed to commit suicide

>>11803452
By the end of the century we will be all dead.

>>11818362
High testosterone

>>11809404

>>11820477
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO (nice dubs btw)

>>11813631
This is literally the premise of elves and men in Tolkiens world, because men are mortal and short lived the chmip out all the more fiercer in the time they have. Meanwhile pretty much all elves eventually grow to become melancholic and nostalgic, just hanging out and making poems and singing.

No way i'd want to become an immortal.
One or two billions years would be largely enough for me.

>>11822871
No need to worry then, since immortal is actually impossible

2050, done by AI,

human scientists will be see as like Mid Wives are now, by 2025. Ranting about quackery while the AI solves everything

in b 4 : Ai is a meme

>>11805589
That's mainly demographic fill-up at this point, the actual number of children at the base of the population pyramid isn't increasing much any more and the GLOBAL mean fertility is 2.6, with the modal fertility at 2. The most common number of children for a woman to have in the whole world, is two.

>>11805697
You're right for exactly the wrong reasons, higher death rates disproportionately increase birth rates so preventing pandemics is good, but not interfering in Africa at all would massively help them because the billions of dollars of aid is absolutely eclipsed by the hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars of resources and labour stolen from the continent by western multinationals. If even a fraction of the energy of that labour could be spent by Africans on improving their own situation instead of subsidizing the developed world's entire existence (and if the US hadn't spent the last half century starting coups against any African leader that even thought about nationalising their resources) they'd be doing just fine.

>>11803804
>Fap.
>Find out it's a him
>Fap again

Why is everyone assuming first that anti-aging treatments that actually work will be legal, and second that they will be affordable to the typical person?

>>11823593
Why wouldn't they be legal? They'd be tested first ofc, but why would they be then made illegal?

>>11823398
based

>>11823489
SUPER BASED

>>11823489
>>11812496
>>11803822
its a woman, @fegalvao_

>>11803848
>I would let her kick me in the ball
ftfy

>>11822520
Yeah but that's why elves are based.
Also elves still stay beautiful for longer so still based.
Humans have chimp-out reflexes (frequency of which depends on race) because they're so worried about everything all the time. They never relax. They never just decide to reside in a place that provides everything for them, spending their time tripping and fucking and dying before they get too old to be ugly. It's the same instinct that causes humans to see something like a labor-saving device and say "hmm I bet I could use this to INCREASE my psychic extraction of pain from my employees!"

>>11803803
Based

>>11803803
Live innawood.
What the fuck kind of argument is that.
Like nigger, just build a soundproof bunker and isolate yourself.

>>11803803
we have endless room to expand in space

>>11803452
More important, when will every man have girls that look like that?

>>11805697
Most Africans are collectivists like Asians. Europe is the odd one out.

>>11832632
yes, considering >>11813247, gen editing will be sick

>>11803452
No, and worse, immortality culture is the great filter.

>>11833241
what? How?

>>11833320
Once you start it becomes difficult to stop. We've come this far so we might as well continue. Eventually everyone has replaced enough parts to be full on androids, which aren't a real form of life and don't benefit from diversity. A lone immortal can't end the world. An immortal mob will. The culture of it, trying to roll it out to everyone, blindly ignoring the slow erosion of individuality, that's how intelligent life ends.

>>11809404
Can I help?

>>11833724
So, by improving ourselves, we will make ourselves worse? Makes sense

>>11833724
I hope once i'm an android, i'll be able to track you down through this post and slaughter your whole bloodline.
This would be nice.

>>11833816
You're barely alive now. My intellect alone would overwrite thousands of you in seconds.

>>11833899
dubs of falsehoods

>>11833899
I will remake your brain, i will mold your time perception like clay, i will stretch your capacity for pain to its limits and then more, i will make you live through an ending, eternal hell every single second.

For ten seconds.
I will gift you ten eternities, of suffering and torture.

>>11808866
>doesn't mean that humans will suddenly stop going to war
We already stopped going to war. There hasn't been a real war in like 30 years. What we call war nowadays is just police operations against a few individuals and small organizations in other countries. War literally doesn't exist anymore.

>>11834218
I would not be surprised you think you are the first to say such a thing.
Amusing.

>>11805697
Africa is huge. It will be wonderland in 50 years. Stop hating and help the world prosper.

You'll be exotic and in demand if you manage mot to alienate 90% of the world pop agaonst you.

Keep working hard and you'll also be a world wide genius/nerd.

>>11834043
You realize this is equivalent to flirting for something that can't feel, right?

>>11803452
Imagine the psychological implications of not aging.
It is possible that we could conquer overall physical aging. The problem I see would be at best psychological aging remaining there and at worst a degeneracy of the brain while the other organs stay ok.
People would off themselves at a certain point. Those who would cling avidly to existence would probably be full blown psychopaths / lunatics after a couple hundred years.

Always posting the same images. I cant fap to the same material anymore. We need more diversity!

>>11833241
>immortality culture is the great filter.
what the fuck is a great filter?

>>11833724
What would you do?

>>11835391
That's just speculation

>>11835416
Exactly that. Post-civilization desolation is the best feel.

Friendly reminder that Aubrey De Grey drinks six beers a day.

>>11835412
It's "the thing" that stops civs from becoming space faring, iirc

>>11836431
Had beers with him at DragonCon. Can confirm that he won't turn down the offer of a free beer.

>>11836443
So the man we expect to save us all from old age is a drunkard?

>Hey guys, I can save you from your deepest and most primal fear. Just donate lots of money to me

>>11803452
>>11808900
>>11816453
built for the bbc.

>>11835391

Obviously, when we talk about radical life extension, we are taking it for granted that anti-senesence technology will keep the brain young and healthy just as it dies the body. It is needless to say that there would be no point to having healthy bodies that lasts hundreds of years if we all end up with dementia after 150 years. And yes, any sort of future with radical life extension is obviously one where euthanasia would already be legalized so that people can go out with dignity after however many hundreds of years of life they choose to live.

>>11837434

*does the body

>>11837434
>euthanasia would already be legalized
based, should be now

>>11805231
If the elderly...which I'm getting close to, want to live for a few hundred years...put them on a dvd along with their DNA code in case you need to bring them back.

>>11807159
Logans Run

op is a thot

>>11816812
tell that to jannies

>>11803811
>Mice who eat every other day
what do you mean with ''every other day'' ?

>>11803452
Only genetically, imagine living 200 years.

>>11803452
Please tell me there is a pic of her bending over to pick up something.

>>11803462
The liberal Americans would stop it from being developed. But perhaps in China.

>>11803452
>Will old age really be cured by the end of this century?
Yes but we will probably die before that in a war.

>>11803452
WHY IS THIS STILL HERE AFTER 11 DAYS

>>11840723
We cured this thread of aging

>>11809631
If you could live to 80 years of age shooting up heroin every day, a lot more people would do it.

>>11803452
tell me she does b-day parties...

>>11840723
THIS THREAD WILL NOT DIE UNTIL I FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THIS CUNT>>11803452
TO LIVE ON THIS DICK

>>11840879
Can I be next?

>>11803452
Every soul will taste death.
there is no escape, if not age it will be a illness, if not a illness it will be a natural disaster, if not that it will be other people killing eachother, Death is inevitable

>>11841139
No shit Sherlock, reread the op. Obviously you can't "cure" death, but you can (possibly) cure old age, and that's what the thread's about.

>>11840879
Have you made any progress?

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Guys the more I look at this the more I realize that we are going about it wrong. If you accept that aging and cancer are linked, then longevity is a task of solving both at once. But this is too much and will take too long.

My proposal is more of a Captain America type serum. We need to strengthen the connective tissues. Boost the strength of what you have. It is the only way to live long enough to solve the rest.

>>11834218
ngl reading this gave me a boner

>>11803462
How can you be sure?

>>11844902
That gave you a boner and not >>11809404
?!

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>>11846749
Lol. I just realized that I replied to the wrong post. I meant >>11834043
But now that you mentioned >>11809404 I am gonna COOM to the both of them.

>>11847243
YES BROTHER LET US COOM

>>11840563
He means calorific restriction. The mice also turn out 30% smaller as a result of the limited nutrition.

>>11849464
It's pretty much pointless to solve other causes as long as we suffer from poor nutrition. We almost certainly suffer from calcium and iron overdose, which causes heart disease and most likely some cancer. Other like cobalt copper and manganese might be missing.
Caloric restriction merely reduces the effect by giving time and distilled water to restore balance.

>>11834401
>It will be wonderland in 50 years
yeah ok

>>11849530
So long as the Chinese "investments" are actually investments and not loans to be reaped, then yeah, it will be

>>11805231
>using a book of fairy tales to justify 21st century ideas
It's 2020. Your kind doesn't belong here or now.

How long until we have furry catgirl waifus?

no. we'll also have flying cars in 2020.

i don't remember where i read that but according to scientist by 2060 there will be 50% chance of escape velocity.

thats something hard to predict because human advancement has been going exponential.

if a cure is found i believe it will be by an AI
they can solve problems faster, don't need to sleep, eat or shit, they don't have to worry about anything else

>>11851268
>>11851167
Both based posts

>>11851268
That is a hard prediction to make. I would say 40 years if the research ends up being truly exponential, however realistically I would put it closer to 60-80 years on the short term, and definitely by 2170

/r/longevity
sens.org
alcor.org

I'll try to keep it short.
What is ageing? They come in many shapes and forms but i believe annon is refering to celular ageing.
What causes cellular ageing? There are genetic markers and end of cells called "telomeres" which keeps getting chopped of as cells divide, thus limiting the number of times a cell can divide, broadly speaking this erosion of telomeres is reponsible for cellular ageing.
Can anything be done about it? there is an enzime called telomerase also called Immortalising Enzyme which adds telomeres, majority of cells in human body don't have it. but vast majority of cancer cells have it.

If we can figure out a way to make this enzyme add telomers to cells without giving cancer yea it can be done.

>>11851488
no body checked my verry based digits

>>11852714
Thank you for you input. Nobody here's heard about that idea until now.

>>11852714
Telomere shortening is only relevant to cycling cells. Tissue with low cellular turnover (like your brain) is not going to be affected by telomere shortening, yet it still ages.

Plus, even with cycling cells, there are more problems than just shortening telomeres. Somatic mutations, epigenetic drift, and shifts in the niche environment will all need to be dealt with.

The only way to reverse aging is to provide fresh replacements for all cells (both stem cells and normally post-mitotic cells). After that, we might still need therapies to rejuvenate or replace extra-cellular structures and remove accumulated aggregates, but I suspect natural maintenance programs will actually be quite effective once the cells themselves are rejuvenated.

>>11803804
>he
wait what?

>>11803848

Pathetic fucking simp

>>11853292
>Tissue with low cellular turnover (like your brain) is not going to be affected by telomere shortening, yet it still ages.
Worse. They do get affected exactly the same, more or less proving the idea is wholly incorrect.

>>11853341
nah his post is incredibly based

>>11803452
>Will old age really be cured
we have a built in thingy that keeps us from going over 130 years of age, which would allow us to stack senior discounts at most businesses

>>11851488
>a cure
It is unlikely to be a cure for all sorts of different diseases as well as ageing in itself.

>>11853448
Why would telomeres shorten on non-cycling cells? They don't replicate, and telomeres only get shortened on replication. Also, how do they age exactly the same?

>>11853583
They do.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2602

>>11853543
huh? What did he mean by this?

>>11853326
Is there a problem?

>>11803452
ethicists will probably have something to say about this

>>11855538
They always have something to say

This thread will hit the bump limit, or damn me to hell

Wait a goddamn second this thread is on the 11th page what?

>>11855950
Well boys it doesn't look like we'll make it, let's remember the good times

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