/sci/ - Science & Math

increased CO2 levels decrease IQ
The effect is measurable even with a small C02 increase.

How small? Lets say that when you cram people in a room, such as a board meeting for example, the increased C02 from everyone breathing is enough to decrease the IQ of everyone in the room. This is measured in a scientific study, that I can't seem to find at the moment. Will post later if I find it.

>>11827342
So the effect is double. Global warming decreases IQ from the environment and decreases inter-generational IQ potential.

>>11827314
y-y-yeah thats why i havent had kids, its because im worried about the future... it has nothing to do with my severe autism or that I don't take a shower every day.

People are as stupid as we can get away with, however technologically superior civilizations will dominate. And that requires smarts to maintain. I still foresee people getting smarter in the future.

>>11827394
>I still foresee people getting smarter in the future.
[citation needed]
Exploding population in Africa, climate change, lack of selectors, ect. says otherwise.

>>11827314
There is already a dysgenic trend as intelligent people tend to have less children

>>11827342
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/health/conference-room-air.html

>At least eight studies in the last seven years
>https://iaqscience.lbl.gov/vent-info

>>11827342
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/health/conference-room-air.html

>At least eight studies in the last seven years
>While the results are inconsistent, they are also intriguing.
>https://iaqscience.lbl.gov/vent-info

>>11827453
>intelligent people tend to have less children
I think infant mortality rates also play a role in this.

Infant mortality rates use to be sky high. I think we adopted 2 survival strategies. The rich, intelligent, and well off will have few children, whom they will care for greatly. While less intelligent or poor families, will have LOTS of children, most of who die young. If you pardon the gun analogy, I'd compare these 2 strategies of bearing successful offspring to a sniper rifle vs a shotgun. With a shotgun you have LOTs of little pellets, many who will miss their mark, but 1 will land. Sniper rifle you have 1 large slug that you carefully and meticulously aim.

There may be pressure for poor families to produce more young. Especially if they were farmers and needed more farm hands to work the farm or more child labor to put food on the table. It's not pretty to think about but it's always important to remember, humans in the past lived by different standards, that we'd call completely deplorable assholes. I'm sure future generations will see us in the same light. Or I hope anyway.

>>11827314
stupid is as stupid does

>>11827354
More than double, even. Other chemical contributors to global warming and industrialization are even more damaging to IQ. If you spend a lot of time in a polluted city without constantly wearing a mask, you're going to suffer from permanent neurological damage and a shorter lifespan. There are studies showing even living near a busy street does the same, since a good ratio of the air you're exposed to is mixed in with all of the car exhaust compounds.

I know this isn't the greatest example for various reasons, but think about people who kill themselves by leaving the exhaust running in a closed garage. Multiply the typical amount of exhaust you might breathe in from a vehicle by all the vehicles that were ever in your vicinity. It makes sense that that's going to cause some degree of damage, whether you notice it or not.

In a century or two from now, people are going to look back at how nonchalant we were about poisoning ourselves and be baffled. Even if you think global warming is totally fake, getting all of this pollution out of the air that people breathe all day would be a worthy enough goal.

>>11827517
Right, and this is why lowering infant mortality rates is one of the best ways to lower birth rates and reduce overpopulation in poor areas.

> I'm sure future generations will see us in the same light. Or I hope anyway.
Undoubtedly. Think about how you thought about humans who lived 100 years ago. Humans 100 years from now will look back on us and consider us just as alien as people 100 years ago were to us. It might even be sooner than 100 years from now, with the acceleration of certain things.

>>11827342
CO2 doesn’t affect people’s physical or mental health unless it’s 900 PPM or above, we are at 400 PPM.

>>11827517
You've just described the basics of "r/K selection theory".

>>11827559
Holy fuck, imagine the amount of Einstein level geniuses that have been extinguished by car exhaust alone.

>>11827565
Meant for >>11827556

>>11827517
You've memorized authentic globalist dogma perfectly. Impressive.

>>11827559
>>11827556
>>11827517
Name even ONE area in which you are at odds with the status quo on. One thing. Anything at all.

ya.... people like you have always held humanity back.

>>11827556
>In a century or two from now, people are going to look back at how nonchalant we were about poisoning ourselves and be baffled.

You mean like how we are baffled by how the Romans poisoned themselves with using lead pipes in their cities public water systems and lead bottles to store wine for the nobles and affluent? Leading to entire generation after generation of lower IQ people till the entire civilization fell apart. Are we basically going to fall apart as a civilization the same way Rome did, by doing the exact same mistake that Rome did, while mocking them for it?

>>11827652
It seems so. Only this time it won't be due to any technical or scientific incompetence, but by active deception of corporations and willful ignorance of the masses.

>>11827314
No that's overpopulation doing that. With literally no weeding factor the human garden has gone to seed.

>>11827667
>by active deception of corporations and willful ignorance of the masses
Greed and corruption has been the downfall of many societies. America is still pretty young for a country, by European standards. Hopefully this is just a growing pain.

>>11827701
Nah, global warming will not just be the downfall of America, but of civilization itself.

>>11827722
>the downfall of America, but of civilization itself
it had to happen sooner or sooner, especially with the current mainstream philosophy of endless growth and consumerism.

>>11827560
In urban areas it's already over 1000 ppm.
https://www.windy.com/-CO-concentration-cosc?cosc,41.968,-75.762,5

>>11827762
jesus christ!
the whole Tri-State area is over 1000, with most of it maxing out the sensor
Although, it's only maxed out around 1,200. That's not great but it's not terrible either.

Welcome the IQ malthusian collapse, enjoy the one way ticket as you watch the planet turn to shit.

>>11827314
I'm not here to debate climate change but that article headline is a plain and simple lie. 101 F (Actually 100.4 F) is a normal high temperature for many places around the arctic circle that are far from the ocean. Just because it gets fuckballs cold in the winter doesn't mean it has to be cold year round.

>>11827314
>all the smart people see the future is fucked and don't have children
Lmao this is like the grand unified theory of dicklet cope and brainlet cope.

>>11827394
No, technologically superior civilizations will collapse precisely because we are slowly but surely losing the smarts to maintain them

>>11827314
The truly intelligent people would realise that having smart people increases the overall chance of survival of the species so they would try to reproduce. The idea of "I can't bring children into this horrible world" is postmodern antihuman behavior that will spread like a cancer if allowed. Think of all of human history the atrocities and hardships each generation endured, and we're the only ones who want to get on a moral high horse of not bringing children into this "fucked up" world. The idea is reddit tier. Have children damnit

>>11828022
and we're redirecting funds into subsidising the retards to breed or not die

>>11828037
>"I can't bring children into this horrible world"
is the wrong approach, what we need is people that see a solution to the problem and realise that having more children allows them to better solve the problem.

>>11828037
>smoothbrain tier: me wan fuk muh dick muh gibs

>brainlet tier: there’s too many people having kids is bad for the planet

>midbrain tier: actually having intelligent children will help make the world better, we shouldn’t tell people not to have kids

>high IQ chad tier: while it’s my duty to raise genetically superior high IQ children to help better the world, it’s in the best interest of society to spread the meme of not having children to as many people as possible, as those who truly have the genetic and intellectual advantage to raise children that will have a positive impact on the world will arrive at this conclusion through their own reason, and those who will allow a meme spread by others to dictate their life choices will only breed more consumer sheep that degrade the genetic quality of our people

>>11827768
>the whole Tri-State area is over 1000, with most of it maxing
lol no

>>11828862
it changes hourly and with the wind

>>11828862
>>11828901
>>11827762
also, this map is showing carbon monoxide concentrations, which is even worse than C02

>>11827314
Anthropogenic global warming is to OP what Satan is to fundie Christianity: an all powerful, omnipresent force of evil that takes the blame for everything that goes wrong in the world. And no , I am NOT denying AGW. I am saying it is counterproductive to make AGW out to be an omnipotent boogie man that causes all of the world's problems and hurt the credibility of legitimate climate science.

>>11828043
>realise that having more children allows them to better solve the problem.
NO, WRONG. Having children is how we got into this mess in the first place, thinking having more is absolutely retarded boomer thinking.

>>11827762
No, it's showing ppbv (parts per billion by volume) and it's carbon monoxide (CO) and not carbon dioxide (CO2).

>>11827314
>Could global warming be having a dysgenic effect on intelligence?

The manmade global warming meme decreases intelligence, it replaces rational scientific discourse and debate with zealotry, posturing and ideology.

>>11829430
This thread isn't debating whether climate change is real or not. Have you not seen the massive shifts in seasonal weather, the australian wildfires, coral death, ect? Or are you willfully ignorant/an oil shill?

>>11829436
Here is a typical example of IQ degeneration, which is what this thread discusses.

This poster aggressively attacks with media headlines that doesn't even align with the ideology he so blindly believes in.

>massive shifts in seasonal weather
Weather is not climate, a typically repeated mantra whenever cold weather occurs, is then completely ignored whenever warm weather occurs. Again, climate changes over long timspans, weather is chaotic over short timespans due to several natural oscillations that man have no influence over.

>the australian wildfires
Have more to due with fuel management practices. Even so, a hundred years ago bigger and more severe fires were had, therefor the zealos arguments evaporates when put to test.

>coral death
Coral bleaching is a weather event, not climate, long term adapation happens in corals and several reefs exist in hotspots that according to the coral bleaching propagandists are impossible. Furthermore the Australian academia keep no records anymore of the extent of bleached corals, dead corals or healthy corals anymore, because this does not serve their agenda of climate hysteria. Despite numerous reports in media and by other "experts" of mass death among corals the evidence for this is extremely poor, there's a dozen pictures at best. Where's the drone pictures? Satellite pictures? The reefs most susceptible to bleaching are shallow water reefs and their albedo can be measured from the air. The evidence is lacking, this is facbrication. Go watch the Beige Reef documentary where they actually go seek for the evidence of this meme, and finds nothing.


There you have it gentlemen, a splendid example of low-IQ climate zealotry attack patterns picked apart. Not a grain of truth, fact or IQ seen in it. Until next time. Cheers.

>>11827314
omg 101 in the arctic circle tha-
>The all-time record high temperature in Alaska is 100 degrees, set on June 27, 1915, in Fort Yukon.

>>11829498
>Weather is not climate
Climate is long term seasonal weather. Specifically climate change is causing more extreme isolated weather events, such as snow during May or heatwaves in December, with an overarching longer term warming trend, both of which I'm talking about when I say "massive shifts in seasonal weather" because it is changing. Where I live used to yearly get snow in October, not anymore, our October average is usually mid-80s.

>Have more to due with fuel management practices.
Wrong. Australia was already in a 2 year record breaking drought, their rainforests were water starved. Guess what? Rainforest doesn't burn seasonally, oopsie, except it did this year.

>Coral bleaching
Call it what it is, the coral is dead anon. "bleaching" is what happened in 2016.
>Australian academia keep no records anymore of the extent of bleached corals
Absolutely wrong and you know it. The corals have been researched extensively by academic institutions, I don't know why you claim the evidence is lacking, there are dozens of photos of the reef on the internet.

You're grasping at straws anon, total misrepresentation of the evidence out there and you know it.

>>11827637
As opposed to you, who are behind the status quo on every issue?

>>11827342
Pseudoscience.

>>11830607
And there we have it.... Your primary goal to is to maintain existing social structures and societal values - the same social structures and societal values that over the years have produced greater and greater pollution, ecological destruction, species extinction, overpopulation and ultimately violence.

carbon taxes are status quo in the sense that they are simply one more tax on an essential good that people require to live - new taxes are nothing new or surprising from a neoliberal government.

>>11827314
The world would be fucked in different ways if there was no global warming. The world is awful. It has always been awful. I'm not having children because I'm a whiny fat autistic slob who never wanted to exist to begin with.

>muh global warming
Keep this neo-liberal vegan basedboy propaganda off of /sci/, thanks.

>>11831096
Perhaps you just don't like hearing the truth, that's OK anon, but I suggest you don't click on this thread anymore.

>>11827314
this is picking out extremes in nature and presenting them as unnatural in order to tax and control just like religious institutions did back in medieval times

>>11831103
Get fucked, modern climate change predictions are so general and vague that they are confirmed by literally any change in any direction anywhere on the globe. Bad scienc.

>>11829504
Yeah, it's a bullshit headline. It sounds like the end of the world, and then you find out "the arctic" just means "any single point far enough north".

>>11829498
>long term adapation happens in corals
How are they supposed to adapt to acidification? The chemistry they build out of is under attack and that's not exactly easy to evolve around quickly.

>>11830878
>carbon taxes are status quo in the sense that they are simply one more tax on an essential good that people require to live
Fee and dividend gets around this. It creates a financial incentive to reduce emissions, if done correctly it even fixes a small amount of economic inequality, and doesn't promote government bloat because ideally the government gets none of it. Its biggest weakness is that it might be too little at this point.

Pollution is definitely an issue but global warming is a meme that corporations use to put down small competitors and leftards use to push for socialist policies

>>11827394

>>11833449
Pretty much this, I wish they would do something about the pollution.

>>11829532
Not arguments.

>>11827563
Thanks for the good read. I don't know much about biology but this is very interesting.

>>11828901
>Gay Head

>>11827314

Who gives a FUCK

AI will do all our thinking for us anyway. We just outsource our neocortex to fucking Siri or whatever tech giant makes it first.

while the person who keeps pulling bullshit insists that I fucking change my life and move

>>11827559
I don't think people a mere 100 years ago seem that alien. I mean there are 100+ year old people alive right now. Even culturally we're still arguing over the same basic ideologies we were 100 years ago.

Maybe 100 years in the future will seem like a bigger gap due to tech advancing ever faster, but ultimately people still have the same basic wants and needs.

>>11827314
>global warming having a dysgenic effect on intelligence
the other way: retarded gravitate towards global warming myths and ((science))

>>11839243
so, towards the idea of intelligence?

>>11828037
And that was before birth control

>>11828037
>Have children damnit
nahhh. boomers can sell their homes to foreigners and hire the foreigners' kids for all i care. that would be par for the course from the most utterly misguided and deluded generation of people to have ever existed on planet earth.

>>11828037
Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt.
Overpopulation is killing the planet.
Everyone, go ahead & stop having children. Your reasoning is wrong, but you're right in the long run.

>>11833445
Government "bloat" is good. "Muh free markets" are the most retarded meme of the past several centuries.

>>11827314

>>11841694
>Overpopulation is killing the planet.

Bullshit, there is no overpopulation outside of Africa and middle east. There is underpopulation.

>>11841694
Tell that to the Africans and Indians then dipshit.

>>11841848
>daily mail
end your life

>>11827762
But every fucker needs a pick up to commute to work and if you tell them no they mah-freedoms and they vote for a bush retard

>>11841694
Ok retard.
Whites countries are not over populated.
It’s the browns and blacks And Asians that are flooding every white country.
Your advice is complete meme tier if you direct it at westerners ie the people on this board

>>11841854
>>11841886
>>11841994
Nah, everyone go ahead & stop having as many children. Your average Western cuck isn't doing much more to advance human progress than an Eastern one.

>>11832436
You're incredibly retarded. As the average increases, what was once considered extreme becomes more common. And your image falsely labels slow CO2 changes over millions of years as if it's current global warming.

>>11832442
>Get fucked, modern climate change predictions are so general and vague that they are confirmed by literally any change in any direction anywhere on the globe.
Source?

>>11827314
Have sex with your wife and make children. Raise them well, make sure they learn theology and mathematics. Contrary to popular belief once a generation of this sort is raised, deregulate markets making it easier for these kids to start businesses and now climate change will be solved through use of the Allam cycle/carbon capture at least that's what we already have today. If you raise good children they will come up with new stuff which will also solve the problem. The globalists don't care about climate, because they don't care about your family. Put the government in charge of the co2 problem and in 5 years we will run out of air, governments are too wasteful to solve such an urgent issue, we need entrepreneurs and free markets to beat climate change.

>>11827314
I don't believe in global warming. To me, it just sounds like people are getting dumber. Maybe that's why they're buying this crap. Everyone knows it's just scientists with an agenda trying to sell their failure solar panels.

>>11827314
>smart people don't have kids
Smart people are the ones with 30+ children you disgusting bugman

>>11827314
Every time an article like this this pops up, about 2 months later you can look up the data for the station that gave the reading and find out that it was several degrees lower than reported

>>11842988
The smartest people are the antinatalists

>>11827314
you niggers have been doing these same shitty threads since 2018 and no science whatsoever
this board is a joke
unironically pol is more informative than this midwit /x/-crossposting cesspool

>>11827361
anon I'm married and average one shower a week

>>11828014
The article is stating that it's the hottest temperature ever recorded there, which as far as I know isn't wrong (I believe the previous record was 98? Don't quote me). Yes it does get hot there, it's the most extreme temperature range on the planet iirc, but it's not incorrect to say that it's the hottest its ever been

>>11833449
I agree with the sentiment of this. For me, regardless of if global warming/climate change is real or not, pollution is actively killing us and needs to be curtailed.

>>11843158
All of the problems pop-/sci/ attributes to GW like coral bleaching and whatnot are more due to waste dumping and whatnot. I almost feel like GW is a psyop to prevent them from having to actually address the real issue.

>>11843252
You think corporations are allowed to just dump waste chemicals onto coral reefs? We already have precautions for chemical disposal, any potentially harmful chemical already has to be rendered inert before dumping. Most major contamination happened a long, long time ago, like flint Michigan, and the fact that we're still dealing with them is the reason companies aren't allowed to dump whatever they want.

>>11843305
There's a difference between what they're allowed to do and what they actually do bro