/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11824167
Iq tests for uni entrance, kick out non-whites, kick out most females, purge the faculty of most STEM depts, try the jewish and wasp administrators for crimes against the state and the race. simple really.

>>11824179
Wrong board
>>>>/pol/

>>11824181
I'm not from /pol/ and wouldn't want to associate with /pol/ posters. I've been here longer than you and don't have to go anywhere, faggot.

>>11824186
>don't want to associate with /pol/ posters
>writes /pol/-tier nonsense
this is some serious cognitive dissonance

>>11824167
Lecture halls are underappreciated
There's something comfy about going to lecture in pajamas and having your labs run by bro TAs

>>11824167
Same as any profession that needs 'fixing'

Elevate the status of the profession, and invest more into it so you can have more teachers, who are better paid, and better at their jobs.

>>11824167
By stopping ridiculous "new" teaching methods.
The lecture hall, coupled with exercises is about the best way to teach, everything "modern" is just a huge fucking meme and does nobody any good.

Good teachers are people who really understand what they are talking about.

This goes for uni and school exactly the same.

>>11824685
>good teachers are people who really understand what they are talking about.
That's the bare minimum for being a teacher, not being a good teacher. A good teacher is one that can see the topic from the perspective of the student and has enthusiasm about the topic and teaching.

>>11824167
why do we need teachers? if you cant learn from a book just drop out, the subject is too hard for you

>>11824689
so you can ask questions?

>>11824688
>That's the bare minimum for being a teacher
Lol. Half my math teachers wouldn't know what a differential equation is.

>A good teacher is one that can see the topic from the perspective of the studen
Nobody can do that, every student is different.
If a teacher really understands the subject, then he knows which part are tricky, which prerequisites are important etc.

>and has enthusiasm about the topic and teaching.
That is usually the case if the teacher cares about the topic.

>>11824689
A teacher or professor is just a better book.

>>11824625
>Same as any profession that needs 'fixing'
DEEFUND THE TEESHERS!
NO MOAR SCOOL :DDDDDDDDD

>>11824167
Reduce the number of students by making admissions higher and costs even higher. Peasants shouldn't be allowed to be educated unless they can prove they're actually smart.

>>11824625
1. Teaching should be prestigious with teachers making six figures
2. 4 hour school days
3. Teachers collaborate with experts in the field and researchers
4. Calculus is taught in high school among other things
5. Do everything the USSR did in terms of education
6. Abolish "fields" like gender studies, drama, liberal arts, social justice, and other nonsense that does not require an education

>>11824701
>by making admissions higher and costs even higher
This is not the issue.
The issue is that employers see a university degree as a requirement for a huge variety of jobs where they do not belong.

Just take CS, where a large proportion of students *want to become programmers*, becoming a programmer is clearly something which University shouldn't teach it's something most people can learn in a 1-2 year trade school or as an apprenticeship.
Or take basically any social science degree. Nobody who gets them will use the knowledge gained for *anything* yet they still *need* a degree to be employable.

In general scientific and job oriented higher education should be clearly separated.
With one being open to basically anyone and the other having extremely strict requirements.

>>11824704
>1. Teaching should be prestigious with teachers making six figures
They do not deserve that.
>2. 4 hour school days
If you can't concentrate 8 hours a day you do not deserve education.
>3. Teachers collaborate with experts in the field and researchers
This is not feasible, just due to sheer numbers.
>4. Calculus is taught in high school among other things
Which should obviously be the case.
>5. Do everything the USSR did in terms of education
Wtf I love authoritarianism now.

>>11824711
dumb post and he won't even realize it

>>11824719
?

>>11824693
you can create a website to ask those questions to researchers and make them public so anyone can see them, if someone else has that question he could search for it before asking it

>>11824732
That already exists and I can tell you it is absolutely dog shit.

A teacher does things a book simply can not do and which can not be replaced by online anything. Especially exercises do not work without a teacher, simply being presented with the correct solution will be of little help in many situations.

>>11824696
>A teacher or professor is just a better book.
A teacher is either explaining concepts or answering questions: everything that can be explained by voice can be explained by text and question answering can be replaced with a service to ask questions to researchers or other experts

>>11824738
why is dog shit?

>>11824741
>and question answering can be replaced with a service to ask questions to researchers or other experts
Which exists and is dog shit.
For the interesting things there are only relatively few people who would be able to give an adequate answer and about 99% of the questions asked could be resolved by a simple Google search or opening a textbook.
Also online math communication is fucking annoying and time consuming.

Also you are ignoring exercises, which are really the area where you learn and see what you have learned. Doing that without a teacher is basically impossible.

>>11824743
Because the question that do get answered are the ones that are one Google search away, while truly interesting questions are ignored, as they rely on very specific knowledge AND a specific context in which they are asked.

If you ask a complex question about an advanced textbook the only people who can answer are those which are familiar with that specific section of the textbook and how it treats the topic.
Or you have to write 2 page questions which nobody will bother reading.

Just go to math overflow or /sqt/.

>>11824747
>Also you are ignoring exercises, which are really the area where you learn and see what you have learned. Doing that without a teacher is basically impossible.

I did a cs degree in a uni where you received a book at the start of the semester and then you did an exam at the end, I did 0 questions throughout the degree. After that, I did a masters at a top 10 European cs university and I had 0 problems graduating. So it is possible.

>>11824756
>I did a cs degree in a uni where you received a book at the start of the semester and then you did an exam at the end, I did 0 questions throughout the degree.
So you never programmed anything?
You never practiced for exams?

>I did 0 questions throughout the degree
The exam asked you questions, I hope.

>So it is possible.
Sure, but I can tell you that in other degrees this wouldn't work. There is a good reason why even graduate math textbooks will give exercises.

>>11824756
the first uni was online with 0 interaction with teachers

>>11824766
And the second wasn't? So how do they compare? Where did you learn more?

At my uni most of the courses can be theoretically completed by only showing up to the exams, but people do still come so lectures and I think for good reason.

>>11824704
>>1. Teaching should be prestigious with teachers making six figures
i love how the bourgeois keep being infatuated with teachers and higher education to feel a connection to the greek academia

>>11824847
>the bourgeois
Yes, but this is really a communist thing which they adopted.
They love the idea of a "scientific" government and of course teachers play an important role in that idea, namely indoc- I mean educating the new generation to follow their ideals.

>>11824181
>>11824191
OP has nothing to do with /pol/. It's a question addressing the failure of academics to pass on knowledge. You are a schizo who sees /pol/ in his walls I bet. Take your meds.
>>11824167
Stop letting "researchers" be professors. Only those qualified to teach (i.e. teaching degree) should teach.

>>11824920
>Only those qualified to teach (i.e. teaching degree) should teach.
That idea has basically destroyed the entire school system if the west.
If you are not very knowledgeable on a subject you shouldn't teach it.
Half of my math teacher don't know what a differential equation is.

>Stop letting "researchers" be professors
The only good professors are researchers.
If you don't understand the subject extremely well you can not reach it.

>>11824913
>scientific indoctrination in schools bad!
>national socialist indoctrination on /pol/ good!

>>11824167
just change university, crybaby

>>11824945
>comparing the entire scholastic institution to one little board on a Mongolian death worm forum

>>11824167
Pay teachers well enough to be able to remove the poor ones and still be able to teach the full load. Then put in higher standards.

Supplement lectures with weekly supervisions in smaller groups (1-3 people) for going over the homework and course in general, supervised by grad students/postdocs.

>>11824167
>Massive lecture halls are not conducive to learning since they're full of students at different skill levels
You should be at a approximately the same skill level if you're taking the same class. Also, lecture halls are great for reinforcing material to lots of students at once while leaving the room open for demonstrations and questions

>>11824945
>>national socialist
That is also a derivative of French Revolutionary ideology. It is just as bad as communism or liberal democracy.


Also, I didn't miss the false equivalency between an institution into which every children is forced and a website from which children are explicitly disinvited...
Claiming that /pol/ is equivalent to a school system is exactly as retarded as it sounds.

>>11824920
you DO understand that it was me, OP, who wrote that, addressed to a guy saying that jews should be on trial for crimes and that STEM faculties need to be purged. Right?