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What’s the deal with antipsychotic drugs? By all accounts they seem pretty horrible for people

>> No.11776732
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>>11776722

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXSoiziPdek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRj9CxkVrz0

https://archive.is/aCwbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMi_s8hYRSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQegsqYhuZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wMP2Q0Ifs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3JQ8OVHVWA

https://ssristories.org/ssris/

https://ssristories.org/category/cause-of-death/suicide/

https://breggin.com/medication-madness-how-psychiatric-drugs-cause-violence-suicide-and-crime/

https://breggin.com/the-hazards-of-psychiatric-diagnosis/

About SSRI drugs 01: https://files.catbox.moe/kpb2n2.mp3

About SSRI drugs 02: https://files.catbox.moe/8m8pbk.mp3

About SSRI drugs 03: https://files.catbox.moe/vdmjym.mp3

About SSRI drugs 04: https://files.catbox.moe/ddto2f.mp3

About SSRI drugs 05: https://files.catbox.moe/kak1pq.mp3

About SSRI drugs 06: https://files.catbox.moe/c42tmy.mp3

About SSRI drugs 07: https://files.catbox.moe/ma0v43.mp3

About SSRI drugs 08: https://files.catbox.moe/nm4ifq.mp3

About SSRI drugs 09: https://files.catbox.moe/u8zobq.mp3

About SSRI drugs 10: https://files.catbox.moe/14ldse.mp3

About SSRI drugs 11: https://files.catbox.moe/hgnzor.mp3

>> No.11776738

>>11776722
>>11776722
they turn you into a fat braindead retard pretty much, but it's better (in terms of functionality in human society, not necessarily fun) than psychosis so that's why people take them

if a jew tries to give them to you for any off-label shit or purposes other than treating psychosis you can just tell him to fuck right off though

>> No.11776740

>>11776732

> Creating Your Own Mental Disorder

> First, let’s choose some common human experience that most people find unpleasant. How about boredom? Most people experience boredom as...

> unpleasant

> So — let’s get started and substitute the word “pathological” for /unpleasant/

> Doesn’t that simple switch start to give it that ‘disease feel’ already? Pathological boredom!

> The next step is to name our disease. How about “interest deficit disorder” or “motivation deficit disorder”? Better yet, let’s find a medical-sounding word from Latin to substitute for boredom. How about “Dysmoveria”? /Movere/ is Latin for motivation. By naming our disease, we are practically all the way to creating it. When you open a door to a new mental disorder millions of people will rush headlong right in and embrace it, as if they’d been waiting their whole life for just this opportunity. Suddenly they aren’t sad or anxious or bored—they’re afflicted with something.

> We have our disease named: dysmoveria. It sounds a little strange now but it won’t when tens of millions of people start using it and chatting about their disorder. “I’m taking Moveritol for my dysmoveria and it’s working wonders!”

> Next we need a symptom picture. What does it look like and feel like when you’re bored? Well, a bored person would probably experience some or all of the following:

> 1. A lack of interest in usual pursuits
> 2. Apathy about life
> 3. A pessimistic attitude
> 4. Feelings of “emotional instability”
> 5. Difficulty concentrating on ordinary tasks
> 6. A lack of energy
> 7. Chronic fatigue
> 8. Sleeping too much or too little
> 9. Feelings of boredom

>> No.11776745

>>11776740

> How many of these must be present in order for us to “diagnose the mental disorder” of dysmoveria? Since obviously we want more rather than fewer people to fit the diagnostic criteria so that we can create plenty of patients and plenty of drug buyers for Moveritol, let’s make sure that only a few symptoms are needed in order to qualify—let’s say, five. Let’s continue pulling numbers out of thin air and say that these five symptoms must have been present for at least two weeks. Five symptoms, two weeks—sounds good.

> Let’s also make this negotiable. If only four symptoms are present and if they’ve only been present for twelve days, we’re not going to quibble. Heck, if the “primary” symptom is present—feelings of boredom—that’s really enough! We’ll call that looseness “professional discretion.”

> Officially you will need to display five symptoms and have displayed them for two weeks. We offer no rationale for these numbers, as no rationale is needed when creating a new mental disorder. Nor could any rationale conceivably be provided. Unofficially, all you need to do is announce that you’re bored—that’s all we really need to hear!

> Next, if we were doing this “for real,” we would gather a panel of clinicians—some psychiatrists, psychologists, family therapists, and clinical social workers—and we’d ask them, “Do your clients or patients ever report this symptom picture?” “Yes!” they’d cry in unison. “We see this all time!” “Great!” we’d reply. “We have ourselves a genuine disorder!”

>> No.11776753

>>11776745

> Next we’d work on “differential diagnosis criteria,” that is, on distinguishing dysmoveria from, say, clinical depression, which it quite resembles in its symptom picture. How would we know which was which? Naturally enough, we would know according to the self-reports of patients. The primary differential diagnostic criterion would be that if you reported feeling sad we’d go with depression and if you reported feeling bored we’d go with dysmoveria. Simple enough!

> Next, how shall we treat dysmoveria? Well, with some “combination” of treatments—this allows everyone with a clinical practice to have patients. Whatever your license says you are allowed to do, we will say “works.” Those clinicians like psychologists, family therapists and clinical social workers who can’t prescribe medication will be permitted to “talk it away.” Those clinicians like psychiatrists who can prescribe medication will be permitted to prescribe. We need not provide any rationale as to why a mental disorder should be treatable just by talking about it. Talking is a completely customary way to treat mental disorders and needs no rationale.

> Of course we’d get drug researchers right on it to create a drug that can reduce or eliminate the symptoms of dysmoveria. This is much simpler than it sounds, since there is no actual underlying disease to be treated. If you had a malignant tumor, you’d need to treat the tumor and not just the symptoms of its presence. Here we are just treating symptoms, since there is nothing present “underneath” except boredom. So our drug research can be up and running instantly, since our goal is the relatively simple one of eliminating or masking certain symptoms.

>> No.11776755

>>11776732
>reposting the same wall of shit over and over
pls stop
(and no I would never take any of these drugs, but you are just shitting up the board)

>> No.11776759

>>11776753

> An additional option, if we happen to have a few neuroscientists among our friends, would be to have them do a little brain scanning. You know what? They would discover that a brain looks different according to whether you do or don’t have dysmoveria! Wow. When you’re bored fewer parts of your brain light up than when you’re excited. This kind of observation thrills people and sounds very scientific. It is completely meaningless in and of itself—of course your brain will light up in different ways depending on whether you’re watching the shopping channel or doing calculus—but people take it to mean something. This is muddy cause-and-effect in action. So it’s quite a useful add-on!

> Naturally it helps in this process of creating mental disorders to be in a position of authority. Being a psychiatrist or having some association with a drug company wouldn’t hurt. But, really, anyone can pull off the feat. Just write a book that makes the case for your new mental disorder, hire a publicist, and let’s see how long it takes before patients line up! Wouldn’t millions of people suddenly discover that they were suffering from “internet distraction disorder” or “post-retirement dysthmia” as soon as they heard about it? You bet they would!

>> No.11776764

>>11776759

> Any unwanted human experience can be turned into a mental disorder by following the simple steps I’ve just outlined. Try it yourself with envy (invidia), rage (furorism), loneliness (infrequentia), or doubt (dubitarism). You can turn any normal human experience into a mental disorder following these steps. Sleeping more than usual? Going through the motions? Not interested in what’s going on around you? Apathetic? Bored? That exactly describes a teenager on a two-week summer vacation with her parents! But now we have a better name for it: dysmoveria. Isn’t it nice that soon there will be a drug to give your daughter so that she will be more pleasant and pliable when she accompanies you on your annual vacation to Nebraska?

> I think you can see the basic ruse. What is the phrase “mental disorder” supposed to connote? As it is currently used, it means precisely the following: anything not wanted. All you need to do is give the unwanted experience a medical-sounding name and describe its look and you’ve created a disorder. That look is called a “symptom picture” but that’s just a fancy phrase meant to sound more impressive than “look.” Give a human experience a fancy name and describe its look—that’s all that’s needed. The unwanted, troubling experience is surely real, but calling it a mental disorder is just a profitable naming game.

>> No.11776769

Before /x/ screws this thread up too much I can give you my personal experience with them. They certainly do stop delusions and hallucinations, so they are useful. They are way over prescribed, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t ever be prescribed. I’ve had delusional and psychotic episodes that landed me in a mental hospital. I was prescribed them until I came back down, then tapered off of them. That’s the best use for them. Long term, they are not a great option because of how it dulls your mind. However, if someone is suffering with a sever case of psychosis on a regular basis, it’s definitely worth it to be on them for a better quality of life.

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>>11776755
>pls stop dropping those redpills! it hurts our profits!
Thanks for the flak. I'll be sure to keep doing it.

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>>11776769
>(((They certainly do stop delusions and hallucinations, so they are useful.)))
They cause delusions and hallucinations.

>> No.11776790

>>11776783
No they don’t. You have no experience with these drugs, you’re just spouting off things you’ve read on the internet.

>> No.11776803

Why are there so many schizos on /sci/?

>> No.11776807

>>11776803
honestly im starting to believe the schizos are mods

>> No.11776896

Had a friend that smoked himself into schizophrenia. Was relatively normal all through high school, then started taking dabs and other concentrated THC stuff pretty much every day after graduating. He got committed to the psych ward for a week and they put him on meds. He’s been a total zombie ever since. Even though the blatant delusions are gone he’s definitely being held back by the fact that he’s going through life almost catatonic and with a permanent 1000 yard stare. I feel bad for him, I wish there was a better way. I worry that they put him on way too much shit.

>> No.11776939

>>11776807
pls pls pls b tru

>> No.11776974

>>11776722
desperation, profit, many sufferers have lower than average IQ
bad things happen

>> No.11777060

>>11776755
(You) are STUPID and CLAMPED.
Exclamation point wall of text anon is BASED, UNCLAMPED, and has TRANSCENDED all colored pills!

Unclamp!

>> No.11777074
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>>11776778
Ironically, by refusing to condense your information into an easily readable format and spamming it everywhere, you just make it look like the people saying bad things about these drugs are paranoid schizos who don't know how to communicate, and put these arguments in the pile with the flat earthers and anti-vaxxers.
The wojakposting isn't helping either.

>> No.11777087

>>11777074
Not him. However you are on a journey, you're at the very beginning. The people who think the way you describe don't matter, especially not here of all places. They aren't useful, and they never will be useful. He's also not a servant, he probably doesn't want to spend his life spoonfeeding people who ask the same basic questions (and are justified in doing so, this is not a condemnation or mockery of them) over and over again, thus he has something preprepared.

You need to pick your battles. I played it the way you think it should be played with politicians, normies, and everything else. Nothing to show for it. the average person understands and is moved by two things, and ONLY two things: Threat and temptation. That is all. That's all of it. If you come bearing neither threat nor temptation, they are unmoved. How do you come with stable threat and temptation? Status. People respond to status.

Barking up the wrong tree.

>> No.11777092

>>11777074
The information is condensed into an easily readable format, hence why it's spammed everywhere.

>> No.11777094

>>11777087
Responding like this doesn’t make your case or point more credible. You seem like the unstable one bro

>> No.11777095

People also become fat, I know someone who takes olanzepin.

>> No.11777098

>>11776790
It's a fact that SSRIs cause a chemical imbalance in the brain. This in turn leads to hallucinations and delusions.

>> No.11777099

>>11777094
Define stable.

>> No.11777100

>>11777098
SSRIs are not antipsychotics you absolute smooth brain. They are completely different class of medications

>> No.11777103

>>11777092
>easily readable
That first youtube video alone is over an hour long. I'm not watching it, and I'm not even going to bother clicking the other links after seeing that.
Learn how to communicate.

>> No.11777111

>>11776740
you've obviously never encountered any illness nor know anyone who has so you sound insanely naive. have fun jerking off to rick and morty cunt

>> No.11777116

>>11777098
>ssri's
>psychosis

>> No.11777148

>>11776722
It's so that Jews can get away with poisoning people.

>> No.11777647

>>11776722
Most antipsychotics are long term anticholinergics, and as such are the direct cause of psychosis.

>> No.11777717

>>11777111
Overwhelmingly based and trip checked, nice one anon

>> No.11778018

>>11776740
>>11776745
>>11776753
>>11776759
>>11776764
based and pretty much redpilled
it's clear you've seen it and know