/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11771138
Jupiter is awash with viscous gasses and liquids. I feel there must be something alive in there, among that churning chaos, however primitive or massive it may be, same goes for saturn to a lesser extent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh2-P8hG5-E

Saturn lurks out there in the dark, but Venus is right here beside us. I find that much scarier.

>>11771143
>>11771171
>>11771187
post more spooky planets pls

Venus without its atmosphere looks like hell. That's because it is, with surface temperatures of over 800 degrees F.

>>11771143
What if Jupiter itself is alive?

>>11771367
It's more spooky with the atmosphere

>>11771387
Must be colored infrared images since no light can reach the surface of venus.

>>11771138
Does Saturn have niggers on it?

>>11771393
The Venera 13 and 14 probes had four cameras, two colour and two black and white, on each side of the probe. Other than that they were pretty standard cameras. The Venutian atmosphere does filter like 98% of light out, but that is still enough to be pretty bright. Venus' armosphere also tends to filter a lot more blue and high wavelength light out rather than all light waves. Even on Earth our atmosphere scatters and blocks a lot of light.

Anyways, those are true-colour images, but probably a bit too orange/yellow tinted due to chromatic aberrations both from the Venutian atmosphere and the lens of the cameras.

>>11771393
some light is able to reach the bottom. could be a really sensitive camera or a mix of infrared and light.

>>11771400
lets put them there and fix our earth

>>11771138
>saturn is spooky and scary and/or evil

That's a tiresome meme. There's /nothing/ scary or evil about Saturn whatsoever, it's just an old cooled-down brown dwarf star (it's cooled because it no longer receives as much electrical energy as it did in the past, but it's still radiating 3 times more energy than it receives from The Sun so hasn't shut down fully yet). It's a physical object, it's not magical.

Instead of thinking of Saturn as scary (who told you it was? ever wondered over where does that meme originate?) you should think of it as /good/ - becuse it was. Saturn was Earth's /mother/ after all; without Saturn life would never had developed on Earth. Saturn's enveloping plasma sheath was the cosmic womb in which Earth and all life here grew. I could go on, but it's easier to just point on in a direction where you can learn on your own.

> Saturn history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kff_ytg0-8w

> SOAAS Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

> RTEOTW Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oophJNlP-fk

> some Saturn-focused videos:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeFB-ygaH63Seg6r6C_dtqB

> Playlist of "Discourses on an Alien Sky":
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UdRp1QImFtMR6jzFL-Xq6cM

Regarding the meme Saturn is spooky/evil, I will tell you where it originates, though, as that's easy. It originates in the breakup of the Polar Configuration (the very close axial alignment of Saturn, Venus, Mars and Earth -- in that order). Mars began oscillating back and forth; eventually the system broke apart and the planets fell into disarray, resulting in massive (an understatement) destruction and death on Earth. Saturn wasn't the cause, but was the dominant sphere which hung, very large, above Venus and Mars in the sky, and was thought of by many cultures as a "god" and became thought of as /causing/ the cataclysms. That's btw where the idea of an vengeful skydaddy punishing humanity comes from.

>>11771504
>the enveloping plasma sheath
This pic doesn't include Venus and the landmasses most likely looked different before the breakup of the system, but it helps serve as an illustration. It gives you some idea at least.

>>11771515
>the plasma sheath
...which perfectly explains: >>11768268 by the way.

>>11771138
Jupiter will kill you with radiation.

>>11771143

>>11771367
reminder that this is an infrared scan of the surface. real venus looks like this.

there aren't many good images like this of venus online, and many images you find will have cloud patterns visible, which is largely inaccurate to how it would look to the naked eye

>>11771504
Wait, are you the EU schizo? Sorry, it’s hard to tell.
>inb4 conceit and random ad homs.

>>11771570
looks like it

>>11771567
>infrared scan
>of a planet covered in a 90 atmospheres thick cloud
>"surface"

>>11771591
what are you saying? it might not be infrared imaging, but this image >>11771367 is not what venus looks like. those are surface features below the clouds

>>11771602
The yellow image is a radar scan, showing the actual solid surface. Saying that the atmosphere of a primarily rock/metal planet is the surface is silly.

>>11771605
I think you misunderstood what i meant. I was pointing out that if you were in orbit, venus would look like the featureless orb i posted. so we're saying the same thing here

>>11771567
>be me
>6 y/o
>Mom bought me my first telescope after months of begging
>So excited to see some cool shit
>First clear night take it out and point at Venus, cant wait to see a planet through my telescope
>It's just a featureless white ball

One of the most disappointing moments of my life

>>11771605
no stranger than saying that the atmosphere of a gas giant is the surface

>>11771619
Should have started with Jupiter or Saturn
Mars is also beautiful with a decent telescope

>>11771628
>>11771619
>>11771614
>>11771605
>>11771602
Shitty thread fuck you
This is now an ELEVEN thread
Like bedroom pop?
Like indie rock?
Like cuco/clairo/joji/billie eilish and all them niggas?
Then you'll definitely enjoy this song!
https://soundcloud.com/elevenisok/sets/blue-skies

>>11771652
Fuck you.
This is now an ELEVEN thread
Like bedroom pop?
Like indie rock?
Like cuco/clairo/joji/billie eilish and all them niggas?
Then you'll definitely enjoy this song!
https://soundcloud.com/elevenisok/sets/blue-skies

>>11771664
Don't know a single fucking thing you just said.

>>11771673
Learn to read then faggot
This is now an ELEVEN thread
Like bedroom pop?
Like indie rock?
Like cuco/clairo/joji/billie eilish and all them niggas?
Then you'll definitely enjoy this song!
https://soundcloud.com/elevenisok/sets/blue-skies

>>11771673
It's my thread now and this shit has been derailed thanks.
This is now an ELEVEN thread
Like bedroom pop?
Like indie rock?
Like cuco/clairo/joji/billie eilish and all them niggas?
Then you'll definitely enjoy this song!
https://soundcloud.com/elevenisok/sets/blue-skies

>>11771664
>>11771670
>>11771675
>>11771683
Did someone deploy a bot here?

>>11771532
>>11771515
>>11771504
can't tell if schizo or legit

>>11771570
>>11771711
>Saturn is an evil demonic entity, guys, it's soopa-doopa scary

>>11771711
it's electric universe schizo /x/ shit

>>11771712
stop it I have legit no basis to understand whether that shit about Saturn being a former brown star is real

It ain't my thing but nobody said the jew connection with Saturn. Or did I miss it?

>>11771720
The Electric Universe is anti-schizo. They seek to demolish schizo theories like Big Bang and Black Holes.

>>11771711
>WMAP

> The "Cosmic" Microwave Background - Bad Science!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13ApQvUfb8

> The Big Bang & Microwave Background - The Early Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i6mCNgJNZs

> The Microwave Background - COBE Satellite Results Explained!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqM6lZOvZcs

> The Big Bang, Photons, & The Microwave Background!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHOo3elX5-c

> WMAP - The Satellite & Galactic Foreground Problems!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHVDzff6LM

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHVDzff6LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-yp-sH2Ho

> NASA's Version of Photoshop - Generating Anisotropy Maps!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-yp-sH2Ho

> Anisotropy Maps vs the Third Law of Thermodynamics!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev-tSWaGE-Q

Furthermore, the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) is debunked by the plain fact Kirchhoff's law of thermal emission (and thus Planck's equation) is invalid.

To learn about Kirchoff's law and exactly why it's invalid, see these lectures:

> What is Kirchoff's Law? Blackbody and Cavity Radiation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DodFojdkSIA

> Is Kirchhoff's Law True? The Experiment!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQnTPRDT03U

> Kirchhoff's Law - The Second Experiment!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE7fZ565DWc

> Kirchhoff's Law, Max Planck, and the Carbon Particle!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-poyIY7pfQ

> Kirchhoff's Law vs the 2nd Law: The "Boxes Side-by-Side Experiment"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQXu5qLkgg

> Kirchhoff's Law vs the 0th, 1st, and 2nd Laws: The "Box in a Box" Experiment!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cS1mfZ2XYY

> Linking Planck's Equation with the Physical World!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w8PJZvnLGI

> The Big Bang, Photons, & The Microwave Background!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHOo3elX5-c

> History of Kirchhoff's Law - Presentation at German Physical Society (Munich)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83JU6enMBS0

Jews worship Saturn.

>>11771740
an old white guy with glasses says it so it's probably true

>>11771567
Nice try, thats obviously a ping pong ball.

>>11771727
See: >>11771504
>thought of as a "god" and a skydaddy punishing humanity

There were 2 types of religions in the ancient world: the worship of the planets and stars as magical deities aka "Gods" (which is where Atonism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam comes from), and the European-style Paganism, which was the belief in reincarnation and that nature and animals have spirits.

In stark contrast to the religions which worshiped actual planets as gods, the gods in /most/ of the European lands (and many Asian lands) were not planets or other celestial objects, but rather symbols (Odin for example is a symbol of one's ancestors, Valhalla is the womb of the mother you return to after dying, etc) of things found in nature on Earth (not up in the sky), encoded into mythological language. Those religions were heavily based on scientific observations of how nature worked and how human biology functioned, and the only "superstitious" aspect were reincarnation and the belief in souls/spirits.

Jews worshiped Saturn as their god and called it Yahweh. Other ancient names of Saturn include Shamash, Satan, Helios (yes, the name Helios referred to Saturn; not The Sun) and Chronos/Kronos. Probably much of their psychopathic behavior can be explained by them worshiped a planetary body which was thought to cause the devastation and mass death (which ensued in the breakup of the system) and which was suddenly torn away. A people believing a planet/star is a deity isn't healthy to begin with, but when all hell breaks loose and that "god" (who previously reigned supreme in a paradisical period of tranquility) suddenly leaves & disappears, it probably causes all sorts of psycho trauma and fucks you up as a people.

The cataclysm ensuing in the breakup is where the Jews got to idea Yahweh needed human sacrifice in the form of children. In their messed up state of mind, they believed they could stop the destruction by "pleasing" Saturn by burning children as offerings to it.

>>11771819
>>11771727
By the way, regarding the
>"needing burned children as sacrifice"
For more info on that, see: https://files.catbox.moe/7w864a.webm

Just thought I'd include that, it might be helpful for you.

>>11771652
I was six, I barely could one planet from another. Venus was big and bright and easy to find.

To this day though Jupiter is my favorite thing to look at in a telescope BY FAR. People meme Saturn and it's cool, but with Jupiter you can actually watch it's moons revolving around it night after night, you can see the cloud bands, the red spot, etc. There is just so much to look at. Saturn is mostly static, it's cool, but it just looks the same every night. Jupiter never looks like it did the night before.

>>11771819
Cool. Thank you. Will dive in.

>>11771504
I find the idea that the Annunaki were not actual beings with us in our early days to be unsettling, but my resistance is waning.

>>11771924
man i wish i could see jupiter and saturn from where i'm at. i live surrounded by many tall trees, so i can't see much around the horizon. it's rare to get an angle on mars, but my telescope isn't powerful enough to see much of it

>>11771819
please post this shit in the proper board. i wish mods would clean up the schizo spam

>>>/x/

>>11772298
climb the trees

>>11772450
that's why humans stood upright, so we could see the goods over the tall grass

>venus, the most hellish planet in the solar system is named after a woman

dare I say, "based"?

I can say with complete empirical certainty that an there is an eldritch god imprisoned in the bowels of Saturn.

>>11772320
????

This thread is about Saturn, hence the history of Saturn and how it affected humanity is relevant.

And see: >>11771727
Anon asked a question, anon was answered.

>>11771752
>t. ruben weinblatt

>>11771504
Saturn is evil meme is a poltard thing, apparently they think Jews worship Saturn and so Saturn is an evil planet, the house of satan

It’s typical Christian psycho bable mixed in with lots of other retarded bullshit about hexagons being evil, hexagons being the pentagram in reality, jews came from Saturn etc etc

>>11771515
>gigantic animals and dinosaurs lived in 60,000 BC (Approx 62,000 years ago)
kek

>>11771138
Chainlink

>>11773893
The gravity would have been much lower, so it makes perfect sense. And since there was no big catastrophe (meteor impacts or otherwise) before the breakup of the Saturnian configuration, dinos most likely existed right up until the end of the configuration and died out during the breakup as they (most of them) were unable to adapt to the light of the Sun and the vastly increased gravity. There's also the Ebner Effect to consider, see >>11765460

saturn spooky but significant

I find this irregularly shaped, fuckhuge boulder more unsettling

>>11775858
that's not Psyche, the core of a dead planet, blasted and stripped away to almost nothing

also youranus as seen by voyager
a planetary sized blob of featureless mass

>>11775874
that's Venus tier featureless blob

>>11771504
>>11771819

About time we get a good post. The Story of Adam and Eve by Chan Thomas does a good job of filling in some gaps.

>>11771819
'sup Varg.

>>11775864
>Psyche
>dead, blasted, stripped away to almost nothing
What did they mean with this?

>>11775864
>big fuckin chunk of metal sitting there FOR FREE
bros help how do i file a space mining claim

>>11776161
put a robot on it, it's the only claim that's acknowledged under the OST
put a robot worth complaining about if you lost it and could blame it on the people trying to steal your claim

>2020
>STILL nobody has just thrown a gopro on a really long wire into the clouds of jupiter and recorded HD video of the way down
someone get on this fucking shit already, I want to see what it looks like down there

>>11776152
Jupiter is a motherfucker is the leading guess

>>11776193
The Mythology checks out I guess.

>>11771422
That just makes the surface of Venus even creepier. Not just the heat and crushing pressure of the poisonous atmosphere, but everything is shrouded in gloom.

>>11776189
Some hobbyist crowdsource project would be able to do it on a Starship in a couple years

>>11776320
it's not even air down there, it's supercritical carbon dioxide

>>11771400
>>11771491
Rent free.

>>11776247
>>11776193

> Remembering the End of the World (Full Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oophJNlP-fk

> Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

> Discourses on An Alien Sky playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeFB-ygaH63Seg6r6C_dtqB

> The Jupiter Myth - Part 1 - Conjunction of Opposites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rSYToFOYz4

> The Jupiter Myth - Part 2 - Catastrophe & Creation / The Silver Age Cosmos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_f_BZuqss

> The Jupiter Myth - Part 3 - Clash of the Titans / The Dragon & The Serpent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeP8q1q3kiA

> The Lightning Scarred Planet Mars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e5_tB6Y

> The Electric Comet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt2EUToo

>>11776320

> Discourses on an Alien Sky #25 | The Great Comet Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsYPhN168MM

> The Many Faces of Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9ZmaiDMBk

> Venus, Mars and Catastrophism – The Reconstruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF5zrPPdExY

> The Comet Venus -- Past and Present
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FbbcGpcFNs

> The Comet Venus and Its Missing Craters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOXVrh4d-KM

> The Accelerating Winds of Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Taz18Ss1vU

> Electric Venus Continues to Confound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxMFWBV440

> Venus' Mysterious South Polar Cyclone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Agr63aMWE

> Lightning-Scarred Mars and Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJdjZm67bWk

> Shocking Blue - Venus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_1xZvHl4Es

Pay attention to the lyrics, they're strangely fitting for the polar configuration: "A goddess on a mountain top, burning like a silver flame" -- Venus /was/ at the top of the "world mountain", the pillar stretching from Mars to Earth, and was radiating shining silverish plasma filaments around it.

>>11771171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKeSGmp4F4c

that signal has been processed and distorted to hell, just about anything can be made spooky when turned into sound.

>>11771143
Read a scifi book once about early explorers of the solar system and how they found giant floating lifeforms in jupiters upper atomosphere. Like giant gas bags that fed on microbial life floating around.

>>11771711
>WMAP

>>11771138
why would it be?

>>11771377
it’s funny cuz we like to think we know, but we rly are none the wiser

>>11771377
What if all matter is alive? Electrons are bouncing around in everything. Even stones.

>>11773885
the point you have to accept is that those we call jews today are not the jews of the bible, neither old or new, since those were the judahites of judah a patriarchal tribe. while modern jews are matriarchal like the edomites and caananites

>>11776189
the go pro is the easy part. The galileo probe had to withstand a 47 km/s reentry with peak deceleration of 228 g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Probe
The hard part is getting the data back fast enough before the probe gets destroyed and the orbiter moves out of range. Then getting that data back to earth. Right now it's really hard to send back video because of the required bandwidth. You need a big motherfucker dish to get data at any decent rate
>>wire
wire is great joke

>>11776366
getting data back is the hard part. You'd have to use some of NASA's big dishes to get any data back at all.
>>11771393
nope, you're an idiot. Light does reach Venus' surface with illumination levels similar to that of a cloudy day on earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#Clouds
>>11771422
nope it's color or if you want to be autistic close to it. The color balance might be a bit off because we don't know the precise radiometric response of the cameras and the color calibration panels may have reacted with the atmosphere a bit.
http://mentallandscape.com/V_Cameras.htm

>>11776189
The wire would cause the spacecraft to tumble and get thrown ofcourse. One of Cassini's antenna's was enough to almost cause this let alone anything longer.

>>11771387
What's spookier is that some pics taken by the probe show the probe already in the process of being destroyed.

>>11779451
Just googled it. Venera13 (which took that pic) lasted just over 2 hours.

>>11777286
You see? Shit like that is why I fucking HAAAAAAATE that planet. I just know it has to blobby and gelatinous if in the upper atmospher, and Alien vs Predator Tier if in the lower atmosphere, and it's all hidden by massive fucking gas clouds!

>>11779483
You think that's disturbing? in theory there's a cushy temperature of between 25 and 15 degrees at a certain depth in there, perfect for building a house inside of. The core is way too hot though.

>>11771138
I reckon if you, as a human being, ended up in/within Saturn somehow, or any gas giant planet, it would be frightening, and then you'd die. Venus is also a literal hell.
The more I think about it the more I realize it's all shit out there. Just shit.

>>11778877
define "alive"

>>11778877
yes

>>11780378
electrons bouncing around

>>11771619
>be me
>15 y/o
>mom buys little brother a telescope
>I hang a ping pong ball outside his window
>he gets really frustrated and never uses it again
>i use it to stare at the neighbors wife while she sunbathes

>>11771712

>calls you out on EU/Saturnian bs
>therefore thinks Saturn is an evil demonic entity

Didn't know you lived on a barn, so much fucking straw

>>11771819
dude sup with the children sacrifice?
isn't the Binding of Isaac a pretty good representation of the absolute opposite?

anyhow, it's seems like it has the power of a deity, it changed our system you say. so why not treat it as a deity?

>doom summary
>schizo>?

>>11776561
anon add these to your drop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxmwTse9Bqc

>>11781742

Video, "Top 10 Bible Quotes - God Hates Children":

https://ia803101.us.archive.org/8/items/highpriesthoodedcobra666videos/TOP%2010%20Bible%20Quotes%21%20-%20_GOD_%20HATES%20CHILDREN_%21.mp4

>>11781765
i am dumber, thank you
couldn't you just post the 10 quotes?
did i really need this all amateur shebang production?

anyhow, you wanna polish the depth into a flatness, go ahead.
the bible is a literature pillar
you'll find much in it

>>11781820
The Bible is Jewish.

>>11771138
No Earth is. I heard there's these fucking weird looking creatures everywhere there that move around on two limbs. I even heard they come in different colors and when they're born they're all soft and vulnerable and it takes them YEARS to learn to move around like the grown up ones do. It's fucking strange and creepy. My friend works at a place that's going to send another probe there soon and he says we'll know a lot more about them soon.

>>11781942
da fuq?
the jews cherished a book so much that it survived a long time
why do you care if the bible is jewish? it's a book, read it. think of it.

>>11781993
>you should fill your head with jewish ideas and a jewish worldview, goy! spend your life thinking about jews and jewish stories, goy!

>>11771143
Are you talking about a planet or you're mum's ass?

>>11771143
>>11777286
>>11779483
I used to think so too, but it seems that the atmosphere is so lightweight that virtually nothing would be able to float in it. No lifeforms, all would sink down.

>>11771171
arent those just radiowaves collected from space and then converted?

>>11771387
>hell has a piss filter
miazaki was right

>>11776189
yea dude lets just make a really long selfie stick here on earth and just put a gopro on it then extend it into Jupiter

>>11782676
thats dumb anon, the atmosphere is literally as dense as you want it to be, only depending on your elevation

>>11783416
No it isn't. A zeppelin would sink right down to the core.

>>11783472
no, 1 bar is in some of the still visible cloud layers, which is pretty much at the edge of jupiter

juno's probe got way deeper than 1 bar of atmosphere anyway

what kind of moronic thought process brought you to this conclusion anyway? do you even know what pressure is?

>>11783496
pressure is not density, anon

>>11783538
oh, i see what you mean

>>11783496
While pressure determines the density of the atmosphere, it just as much determines the density of whatever you're trying to make float. Zeppelins used helium or hydrogen, but nothing is lighter than Jupiter's atmosphere.

>>11784963
sure there is, for example a purer hydrogen gas, a hotter jupiter gas, or a lower pressure gas

>>11783369
Give me one (1) reason why this wouldn't work

For me, it's Europa

>>11785056
the stick would cost too much

>>11771400
No, but your mother does

>>11778991
Can't you just have two probes one will orbit the planet and the other will suicide into it.Suicide probe will give all the data it can to orbit drone with a smaller antenna then the satellite will transmit all that back to earth in however long it must take.

>>11785106
>europa
the BLACKED choice

>>11771702
The bot has been shilling that same shitty song across multiple boards.

>>11771712
>.t saturn

>>11771138
Yes Because we don't know why its rings are so prominent and especially flat. A former NASA engines claims there's UFO's making said rings. There's video but I can't find it anymore

>>11771138
Jupiter scares me the most. It has pants shitting gravity and lethal radiation and just the sheer size

https://discord.gg/FFwRXKq

I just finished up using my little telescope set up, wack ass smart phone camera but I'll post a few I guess.

>>11785466
Juipiter, just like a half hour ago. any way to tell which moon is which?

>>11785468
again, weak ass phone camera sorry.

>>11778877
I unironically think I might believe this.

To be clear, I don't think a rock can think, but there's maybe a completely flat, thoughtless shadow of single bit awareness running through a rock, but also running past it into everything beyond. Just an undifferentiated hum, not of "I am" because that requires an ego and a mind, but simply "am".

This makes sense because it eliminates the confusion of consciousness from a materialist standpoint. Why does inert matter experience qualia/consciousness when organized into a brain? Why does the brain experience anything instead of just computing. Well because in the same way the brain is just organized matter, the mind is just what happens to that permeating, vague, boundless "am" when you knot it up and organize it by assembling that matter into a brain. It turns undifferentiated raw qualia into a differentiated system, a sentient mind.

Each single atom somehow creates or hosts a spark of consciousness as one of its fundamental properties, which is somehow connected to or continuous with the sparks of consciousness in surrounding atoms, and when woven together into a complex decision making system the system may therefore experience itself.

>>11785532

I like the cut of your jib!

>>11785301

>>11779451
That's just the lens cap. Actually the metal exteriors of the Veneras probes probably lasted for years. Hell they may even still be around because there isn't anything to rust them, just heat and pressure.

It was the internals, the microchips and electronics that were totally and completely fucked.

As an aside, NASA is currently experimenting with non-carbon based microprocessors and electronics that are made of materials that can survive Venus tier environments. Within the next decade they will probably send a probe to Venus capable of staying alive for weeks or even months.

>>11783351
Yes. Still spoopy.

>>11785301
For some reason I can't but help pronounce it INCELadus

>>11785468
You can sometimes tell Gannymede because it's slightly bigger than the other three. Io is usually the one really closest to Jupiter, but obviously the others can orbit behind Jupiter so it's best not to make assumptions. Europa and Callisto switch around a lot, good luck. There are websites with charts if you really want to know on any given night.

>>11771387
Nothing says "you are already dead" like these views of Venus, especially knowing that the atmosphere at the surface is so dense that the last part of the descent was made using only a metal umbrella to slow it.
>>11778991
Isn't it also the case that camera sensors need to have a larger physical size for each pixel, and some other attributes, to withstand cosmic rays and other radiation that's difficult to shield in a spacecraft of reasonable weight? And that the very sensitive and super-dense ones that make hand-held 20 megapixel cameras great on Earth's surface wouldn't last long enough in space, never mind in close proximity to Jupiter? If so, one would also need optics that are correspondingly bigger and heavier to scale up resolution--something with around a meter of aperture. One way or another, you'll need an altogether big boat--higher wattage transmitter and power supply, bigger dish, and a camera that by itself weighs half a ton. I'd still love to see it happen. All the gas giants & ice giants are damn scary. If even Uranus or Neptune have something resembling a surface, landing on such is a feat that would make industrial scale transmutation of light elements look like home-brew.

>>11785297
yeah, you can do that, but you gotta do some orbital ballet as the orbiter moves and the probe falls. You might need a bigger antenna on the probe than you'd think to get that sweet-sweet HD video uploaded before the probe is dead or too much of jupiter is in the way. The real pain in the dick's gonna be getting the video back to earth. You're still gonna need a HUGE dish back home to receive the data. It's gonna take a while and dish time ain't cheap. Now if you can figure out how to send data using lasers, well you don't need as big a dish and it's a lot more practical. Support space based laser communication today!
>>11789389
>> descent was made using only a metal umbrella to slow it
more people need to know about this. Venus atmosphere is crazy fucking dense
>>camera sensors need to have a larger physical size for each pixel
making it rad hard would be worth the money if you're yeeting it to jupiter. Junocam wasn't that big though
>>one would also need optics that are correspondingly bigger and heavier to scale up resolution
ever heard of film cameras? Polaroid film is like 8x8cm and the optics weren't that big
>>Neptune or Uranus ... landing ...would make industrial scale transmutation of light elements look like home-brew
Meh. So just make a big dildo out of tungsten and drop it in. Maybe add a mechanism to deploy a metal umbrella at a certain altitude. Tungsten should be able to reach the surface without melting. The 'surface' might only be 2500K. That's well below the service temp of tungsten and it's probably higher cause of the pressure. Diamond should work too, it's supposed to be stable pretty deep into the ice giants if you look at the phase diagram. Pressure you say? Well if you don't contain any pressure it can't get crushed. The problem of course is getting data back from the dildo to see if it really penetrated the surface. Making a radio that can operate in that environment would be the real challenge.

>>11771143
>>11777286
sounds like exactly what Carl Sagan said when he imagined what life on Jupiter would be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uakLB7Eni2E

Venus is the angriest planet

>>11790606
Carl Sagan is truly a hero. Modern pop-sci """"scientists"""" are a joke compared to this man.

>>11785532
Exactly what I've been considering for a while now. Nice to see someone else has had this idea.

>>11776561

>Why is Venus female?

Because it is pretty, bright, and has visible phases?

>>11785301
Don't be such a Nigger anon. It's unbecoming.

>>11791462
>pretty
>bright
>phases
Just like other celestial objects. Venus as it appears today gives no reason to think of it as more feminine than other space objects, and there's no reason to assign so many feminine attributes to it as the people of the ancient world did. No, Venus looked and behaved vastly different in the past.

>>11771138
Everyone here talks about Jupiter but what about Pluto?Seems like a comfy place to rest in.

if you're interested in spooky planets, specifically Jupiter and Saturn, read 2001 A Space Odyssey.

>>11771138
The real scary idea is the perfectly valid theory that "Planet Nine" may be a baseball-sized black hole, which explains why we haven't been able to observe it.

>>11791902
>why we haven't been able to observe it
It's predicted that Planet 9 is about 3x the mass of Earth, or basically comparable to Uranus/Neptune. If that's the case no current telescopes will even be able to observe it at that distance, it's simply too far away. Keep in mind that Planet 9 would receive like 10x less light than Neptune at it's closest approach to the Sun, and we can barely see Neptune with existing telescopes. Planet 9, if it exists, is too far away and too small to be seen anyways.

One of the reasons a lot of astronomers are excited about JWST is that it should be able to see any Ice Giant sized planet even as far away as the proposed Planet 9 orbit.

>>11785466
What's this one?

>>11785468
Telescope photos of Jupiter always impress more than the ones from our satellites for me. Or of any of the other planets really. There's just something about the moons floating in the vast emptiness of oblivion that really brings home the fact that there are these objects spread through the entire universe simply sitting around idly for billions of years.

>>11791572
It's significantly brighter and its phases are visible with the naked eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUszkX7Lpk

>>11771567
Oh no the shaders fucked again

>>11791857
>pluto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwVBVg6vzqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if5N3e3Q04o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqVOxq7mE48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0HszupAkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ojqHlqPfpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXh-KVV9ZIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF6NT3NRC8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdWXuzbMF9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPeTQKVumco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3mMTHrqVk

>>11791902
>planet nine
https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=FhYGoUu9Ra4

>>11791376
Apparently its actually many decades old and there are multiple different versions of it plus very similar ideas. The general term that probably describes some theories better than others is 'panpsychism'

>>11771367
>hell
>women are from Venus
Checks out.

>>11793455
>women are from Venus

>a gem on the outside
>literal hell on the inside
poetic

>>11793445
As an animist this idea appeals to me. It's like a more scientific description of what I already believe; principally that all matter is "alive" to some degree and that all matter is consciously connected. I don't want to preach but to me just taking a walk through the forest is all the evidence I need that divine spark runs through all creation. We think of God as being in the image of Man but in truth God simply IS, everything, all matter, the Universe itself.

BOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c8eSr7x7AA

For me it's Jupiter. Other planetary bodies are just inhospitable in different but predictable ways, some are scorching hot, others are freezing cold, most are simply dusty rock deserts or ice deserts with little to no atmosphere. But they're all comprehensible. Jupiter however just boggles the mind.

>holds two thirds of all non-Sun mass in the Solar System
>upper atmosphere of helium, other noble gases and ammonia characterized by clouds and storms not only more beautiful than any painter could create, but also more massive than any other storms in the Solar System
>next lower layer is gaseous hydrogen, which as altitude decreases and pressure rises starts to defy what physics can be observed on Earth and transition into a supercritical fluid that's both a gas and a fluid but also neither
>if that's not weird enough at even lower altitude the thickest layer of the atmosphere is metallic hydrogen, called so because it's so dense it starts to behave like an electric conductor
>to this day no one knows whether there even is a solid core or what it's made of, the Juno mission indicates a diffuse core that has no clear boundary and transitions into the atmospheric mantle, we have no clue what's even going on there

Seriously, Jupiter is just gigantic and alien and mindboggling in every single way you look at it.

>>11793679
if you wanted to see something similar just mix coffee and milk in slow motion lmao

>>11793679
most of the stuff you're salivating about is there on saturn and even uranus and neptune too

>>11793715
"Hey look we're also Jupiter but smaller."

>>11793722
all three of them also have a surprisingly comfy "surface" gravity that's almost the same as earth's actual surface gravity

meanwhile jupiter has to be a shitter with that 2.5g

>>11793728
Not like you could land on them anyway.

>>11793734
not with that attitude

>>11791902
>The real scary idea is the perfectly valid theory that "Planet Nine" may be a baseball-sized black hole
That’s not scary, that would be incredibly useful. If we could send probes to a black hole imagine all the different types of experiments we could preform there.

>>11793744
>>11791902
a baskeball sized black hole would be too massive i think

the theory however is not that valid because we aren't seeing miniature black holes elsewhere either

>>11793679
>>11793728
imagine accidentally aero-breaking into jovian atmosphere and can't get back up again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsGW2JZrMnY

>>11793734
definitely possible with pic related facilities

>>11793779
just flap your wings bro

>>11793698
I always thought Jupiter looked like a McDonald's caramel sundae

>>11793779
Is there a more beautiful thing than those intricate cloud formations?

>>11793784
descend 400km more and you could just swim bro

>>11793679
2spoopy5me

>>11793779
Bespin, or as I like to call it, Venus. Just don't step outside without a hazard suit and oxygen tank.

>>11793800
https://youtu.be/vVLGTPaT-9s?t=1149

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUszkX7Lpk

>>11771138
AAAAAAA
im spinning

>>11771138
What's the black dot?

>>11797270
the post above yours

>>11797276
Spooky, I wonder if it's a portal to hell

>>11797281
looks like its blue in true color
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/01/first-true-color-images-saturns-north-pole-stunning/

>>11771138
Yes.

most interesting thing in the solar system is the sun

huge fucking ball of plasma, loved watching when i was doing astronomy in university

>>11793679
Thats a cool as fuck picture

>>11773912

>>11771138
It is on account of the Saturn people

>>11793855
Omg it's one of the naturally occurring stable structures! Ancient aliens confirmed!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagonal_crystal_family

>>11793855
You can also make perfect hexagons naturally appear by dropping marbles in a bucket.

Best thread on /sci/ in a long while.

imagine ace combat in jovian atmosphere setting
there's probably 250km+ vertical flyable space compared to earth's 20km (absolute flight ceiling of typical 4th gen fighter)
and 2 major cloud deck

>>11800407
it's full of awful /x/ shit though

>>11793779
what was the sci fi basis for those cloud platforms anyway? the atmosphere was somehow breathable and they things were supported by antigravity?

>>11771138
I'm not afraid of Saturn, I'm afraid of humans. Motherfuck Saturn, what the fuck does it do except spin around and have a gravitational pull?

>>11779483
You're no there, son. Don't piss the bed.

>>11780378
>No!
Said the matter.

>>11802315
yeah, the word they use for their antigrav is "repulsorlift"

>>11802345
Saturn is mommy. Why should Earthlings be afraid of their mommy?