/sci/ - Science & Math

please do litter this board too with this shit

>>11707778
I hope no trolls will be here, I am not baiting or something I am asking for arguments with sources because just typing some green text with shitty pic is not an argument.

if you were a white kid living in community of niggers you would be stupid too
so I think it is correlation is not causality case

>>11707774
It's much more complicated than most retards on either "side" will approach. It's not just intelligence but the complex interactions of various patterns of behavior, this like impulsiveness, religiousness, etc. The practical application? There isn't one on an individual basis, you shouldn't treat someone differently due to their race alone (ideally). Flip side is that the idea of equality of opportunity meaning equality of outcome (and if there's a discrepancy then clearly it's not equality of opportunity) is retarded and treats human beings like a single production line of machines that never received and updates after release.

>>11707774
>Do you think that /pol/ is right about race and intelligence?
yes

>>11707774
it is possible as we still do not know much about the interplay between genetics and intelligence

>>11707774
150 iq person of African descent here. Short answer; kinda but not really

>>11707774
**No.**

>>11707845
You don't have to have an intimate knowledge or understanding of the mechanisms between genes and the nuances of brain/neurological development to measure highly heritable general intelligence. We do know that general intelligence is largely heritable (which makes sense) but is also extremely sensitive to selection (anti-flynn). It's not hard to understand how different populations under different processes of selection will vary in various patterns of behavior.

>>11707774
Blacks have low IQ. Ashkenazi Jews have high IQ.

Also, there is an indisputable genetic component to IQ.

>>11707876
>Blacks have low IQ. Ashkenazi Jews have high IQ.
Blacks have lower g loaded IQ, Azhkenazi Jews don't have higher g loaded IQ.

Genetically there is no link. The book Sapiens does address a possible but mostly trivial possibility that there could be genetic differences between races due to I believe it was inter species breeding (not interracial) between different species of early humans.

However there is likely a non trivial link between race and intelligence that is culturally, but not genetically produced.

So while any individual of any race is just as capable as any other individual with similar IQs, there are likely some differences when you take into account each race as a whole.

>>11707886
Yes they do you fucking stupid brainlet lmao

>>11707876
>>11707886
>>11708017
/thread

>>11708023
wat did he mean by this?

>>11708012
>Genetically there is no link.

>>11707774
I honestly don't know but what I do know is that /pol/ doesn't care about that even if it turns out to be true.
If you really cared about IQ wouldn't you just gather everyone with high IQ, no matter their race?
/pol/ should just accept that hating niggers is 100% just their fee-fees and that's okay.

>>11708035
>If you really cared about IQ wouldn't you just gather everyone with high IQ, no matter their race?
No. Intelligence, like all measures of behavior, has multiple polymorphics/polygenic components you tard. Not to mention they don't care just about IQ, it's an example of a heritable trait which makes the two groups incompatible, that's their point.

>>11707873
>We do know that general intelligence is largely heritable
This is false. It may appear to be so under certain models, but an assertion such as yours (i.e. that we "know") is a far leap in logic.

>>11708120
Fine, it is highly probably that general intelligence has substantial heritable factors. Is that wishywashy and unsure enough for you?

>>11707774
I think the academia is too scared to study the differences between races.

>>11708127
This presupposes that we have a valid model of general intelligence, which is certainly not the case.

>>11707774
/pol/ is always wrong.

>>11708213
Doesn't matter because /pol/ possesses the power to bend reality in whatever form they choose.

>>11708194
Any valid model would still give the same conclusion. Only way it wouldn't is if ALL the current ones are completely off the mark, which is highly unlikely. Stop moving the goalpost, you limpwrist faggot.

>>11707834
You're a retard.
>>11707774
There's two facets to it. Yes, blacks are less intelligent on average, this is undisputed - even when controlled for economic factors, their IQ's and SAT scores are still significantly lower.
The debate comes from whether or not they can live peacefully in a society. You have to take into account, blacks really were fucked by the system, and still do get fucked by the system, just not in the way they perceive (because not only are they stupid, but their view is shrouded by the Jew). In 1965, an act was passed (by a Jew) called The Immigration and Naturalization act, which stopped quota systems based on national origin, established a new immigration policy, etc. which was promised that it wouldn't change the actual racial populations it America (pro-tip, it did). Later, in 1984, the first actual privatized prison system came into play with something called Corrections Corporation of America. Just about this time is when hip-hop began deteriorating into music less about struggle and such, and more into crime glorification - this is because CCA was in contact with networks and labels such as Time Warner, Viacom, etc. The rap music you see now is not about expression, it's about getting as many blacks, Mexicans and other low income individuals into prison through the glorification of crime. Another thing that happened around this time, as most people know, is the US government intentionally injecting crack into impoverished black neighborhoods. Last, but not least, Welfare is specifically designed to make it appealing for low income (black) women have as many kids as possible without a father (something that is commonly shown to have horrible effects on children), because this maximizes profit.

>>11708435
cont.
All in all, it may so be that blacks can live alongside whites (which I posit as having Christian Proto-Indo-European ancestry) normally or semi-normally. I'm not big on genetics so don't take my word on this, but I recall hearing about a certain gene which codes particularly for psychopathy or violence being prevalent among blacks and Nords, although the fact that Nords are still capable of working, low crime civilizations may mean this is moot. Perhaps they can deal with it better due to their higher IQ's?
Regardless, there will need to be some more experimentation done with the idea. I'm not huge on the idea of sending them all back to
Africa considering they have made some good music in the past, especially with Hendrix, but whether or not their violence is at least somewhat in line with whites when controlled for the social factors stated above is what really matters. It's also worth to question whether or not, due to their lower intelligence, this cycle would begin again regardless - considering they would still be in the lowest brackets of the economy regardless and, unlike the Mexicans, might not have the work ethic or intelligence to deal with it instead of getting violent and trying to stage coup's constantly like the riots by BLM.

>>11707774
Asians> Ashkenazi Jews > Brahmins > Whites > Hispanics >Blacks.

Pol and the whites bully the hispanics and blacks because they are competing with them for scraps left behind.

Plus sprinkle in a lot of middle easterners near the asians and jews.

>>11708435
>>11708450
Based. The only way to beat the parasite is to unite the hosts and work together to expunge the noses.

>>11708479
>Ashkenazi Jews
see pic related

>>11707774
>Do you think that /pol/ is right about race and intelligence?
Yes and no. There's definitely a correlation, but not for the reasons /pol/ thinks. It's more due to cultural, environmental, and sociopolitical factors.
>inb4muhgenetics
Genes have an influence, but only mildly. And /pol/ards keep forgetting that there are multiple factors here, genetics being only one of them.

>>11707778
i lol'd pretty hard

>>11707774
Yes. The Black-White IQ gap simply can't be 100% environmental. It's likely something like 80% genetic.
https://www.mdpi.com/2624-8611/1/1/1
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289619301886?via%3Dihub#f0015

>>11708517
>There's definitely a correlation, but not for the reasons /pol/ thinks. It's more due to cultural, environmental, and sociopolitical factors.
See: >>11708435
There are studies which point to blacks still having considerably lower IQ's and SAT scores when controlled for economic factors. Being controlled for economic factors also generally implies being controlled for social/cultural factors, considering the massive difference between impoverished peoples and middle to upper class peoples.

>>11708517
No

>>11708492
only reform jews and some orthodox jews are smart. the mizrahi are genetically arab and no different in culture/mindset/dna/intelligence. sephardi are hit or miss. there are good ones that came out of the ottoman sphere but the ones out of morocco are useless too.

Yes I do, remember non of what they believed originated with /pol/, but from the 19th/ early 20th century. However the question is to what degree should we act on the information? Should we act at all? As >>11707839 said its complicated, though there's no denying that genetics and by extention race is a factor, we would have to tread carefully regardless. National segregation (a la japan's policy) is probably ideal but its too late for that in the West without bloodshed.

>>11708492
Average IQ of lebanon: 82
Of course Ashkenazis make up 50 of the Jews, but only about 75% of the population is jewish.
.5 x .75 = .375
82(.625) + (.375)x = 95
x = 116.6

>>11708533
As a useless moroccan Jew I confirm.

>>11708543
based and self-aware-pilled.

>>11708543
Your ancestors got to enjoy Berber pussy, be happy and grateful for what you've been blessed with. Leave depression and ingratitude to the Askhenazim

>>11708529
I think the most interesting study was one done by the US military, which showed that IQ tests actually over predicted performance for blacks compared to other tests (for example SAT) .

In other words, IQ tests give blacks as having a substantially lower average IQ that other races, but even then was being generous.

>>11708492
Not everyone in Israel is a Jew, there is something like 20-25% arabs and many nonjewish foreigners.

The high IQ ashkenazi memes indeed comes from East Coast american Jews who are disproportionately higher middle class and in intellectual profession so of course they're going to have higher average IQ not sure what's new or surprising here.

>>11708547
T.b.h we're probably as Berbers as we are Jews so I'm indeed grateful. I leave ashkinos with their galaxy-brains and their dick-obsessed neurosis.

>>11708548
Ok and so what? To asians, your average white person is like a black person.

>>11708533
That doesn't matter, it doesn't affect the argument of the image at all. It would still imply Sephardi/Mizrahi are completely subhuman. Them being no different than Arabs doesn't imply anything, Arabs aren't subhuman tier IQ-wise considering their golden age and invention of algebra, it's mostly a religious/cultural problem.
>>11708549
>>11708541
I don't agree with the numbers so much as I do the false test groups for that image. The low amount of tests along with the particularly smart Jews who were tested still indicate a disproportionately high IQ. Do you genuinely think Ashkenazi Jews are so much smarter than East Asianers? If I recall, Japan's average score is just around 105 to 106.

>>11708450
>but I recall hearing about a certain gene which codes particularly for psychopathy or violence being prevalent among blacks and Nords,
As I understand it having "psycho!" genes doesn't really matter, it's low impulse control and low IQ genes which blacks have in spades.

Note that these genes arent often explicitly shown to cause these traits, just that they have a strong correlation.

>>11708548
I wouldn't be surprised, Africa is still in a tribal state. They're barely human, but at least more so than Aboriginals.
>>11708556
IQ difference between whites and Asians is only about 2-10 points, depending on which countries you're looking at. White IQ vs. black IQ average is more like 20+ points regardless, possibly more if what the other anon said is correct.

>>11708435
>>11708435
> In 1965, an act was passed (by a Jew)
It was proposed by one Jew and one Christian. It was *passed* by hundreds of almost exclusively white Christian men in government.

It’s amazing how you touched inbreds never stop lying. Didn’t even read the rest of your post. What a low IQ pol virgin.

>>11708573
More like "fellow white" christians.

>>11708556
>To asians, your average white person is like a black person
No they aren't. The gap between blacks and whites is significantly larger than whites to Asians. The gap between Asians and whites is often non existance depending on which subgroup you pick. And as others have said there's more at play than just IQ, which is what I was getting at.

>Ok and so what?
I literally just said it relates to performance. Being able to do tasks, be disciplined, etc. These things matter, especially if you are trying to run a capable military. Setting up a society on the assumption that everyone is equal yet tests show that some groups just can't compete or function within it is asking for disaster, its cruel, and functioning within developed countries is only becoming more intellectually demanding as technology advances.

>>11708482
>calling simple confirmation bias instinct
neonazis really are the most impressively stupid people, if you even are people. You seem more like house pets given your reasoning powers

>>11708589
>You seem more like house pets given your reasoning powers
Listen shekelberg, if we chose to stop treating blacks like property, I think it's time you stop acting like we are cattle. Parasite.

>>11708587
There aren’t even close to enough Jews in senate and congress to swing things now, let alone 75 years ago. Nice coping though, m’brainlet

>memes based on twitter “screenshots”
yikes

>>11708597
>unironically saying yikes
Holy shit, go back.

>>11708593
>someone insults neonazis
>pretend they’re insulting whites so you can pretend to be a victim of racism
I take it back, most pets are smarter than you are.

>>11708573
>It was proposed by one Jew and one Christian.
Religion has nothing to do with the argument, except perhaps the fact that Christians are more easily persuaded by Jews, so I don't see why you pointed out the other was a Christian. It's not uncommon to see non-Jews working with Jews, whether knowingly or unknowingly. The act was indeed passed by hundreds of white men in government; again, this has nothing to do with the argument at hand. It's a very common Jewish trick to suppose that a Jewish majority is required to accuse something of being Jewish or Jewish run. It's generally just a few powerful Jews that run things - not a group - who either enlist or trick non Jews.
> It was *passed*
I used one word somewhat incorrectly (albeit colloquially it barely matters, given context you can see I obviously was referring to the writing of the act) and you're going to say my entire argument is wrong without reading it, then call me a "touched inbred"? Interesting.

>>11708563
> Do you genuinely think Ashkenazi Jews are so much smarter than East Asianers?
I'm >>11708549 and I don't really disagree with your point about ashkenazis. I'm confident that if you test American Asians in the same area and social classes than Ashkenazis Jews you'll come to pretty close numbers. One big difference that might explain the high scores however is linguistic ability. Ashkenazis descend from immigrants who generally spoke at the very least German or version of yiddish that were close to German. It might have been made easier for their children to learn English than it was for Asians. I can't say how far that kind of effect can ripple but if those tests were administered within 2-3 decades of the end of WWII they might have gotten a lot of second-generation immigrants, and that effect could have played a role.

As often in statistics, the results might very well be more a reflection of the method than a reflection of the subject matter.

>>11708588
>No they aren't. The gap between blacks and whites is significantly larger than whites to Asians. The gap between Asians and whites is often non existance depending on which subgroup you pick. And as others have said there's more at play than just IQ, which is what I was getting at.
Its the same gap. Asians are 1-2 SDs above whites. There are smart blacks too btw.

>>11708603
Your talmud outright says that us nonjews are cattle, despite many of us surpassing you leeches in history. Say sorry, minecraft villager.

>>11708605
I mean you got caught lying trying to blame Jews for the Hart-Cellar act when in fact Jews were a fraction of a percent to blame for it. The relevance is that you’ve been exposed as yet another pathological liar /pol/ incel shilling here.

>>11708610
>implying Christians and Mosleems don’t believe dramatically more evil shit that doesn’t have to be put through an incel’s translator
>60 IQ pol user calling someone else an NPC
How many hours this week have you spent crying about Jews on the internet?

Yes

>>11708616
The fact that you only scream "INCEL" and "POL implies that you're either a plebbitor or a literal jew journalist in disguise. Maybe both.

>>11708616
>I mean you got caught lying trying to blame Jews for the Hart-Cellar act when in fact Jews were a fraction of a percent to blame for it.
Again, perhaps you should actually read what I wrote. I blamed Jews for the act because they are to blame for the act - it was a Jewish person who presented it.
>Jews were a fraction of a percent to blame for it.
I already explained this in my last post. Jewish tricks are commonly devised by a particular group of significant, elite Jews, who then enlist non-Jews or trick non-Jews into helping them. Just because something isn't majority Jewish doesn't mean at all that it isn't Jewish.

>>11708620
14. Now watch as your mom drinks my male tears after I play with those khazar milkers.

>>11708606
The Jews were not German though, they were the enemies, wolves in sheeps clothing. That's why the average German had no problem ignoring the holocaust, even when it's going on 10 feet away from them, nearly every German had been wronged by Jews. It's why all the slavs willingly sold out the Jews when the nazis came.

>>11708609
No it isn't, as the other anon said there is only about a 5 point difference between the average for East Asians and whites (and as I said regions like North Italy the gap is non existant), compared to the ~20 point different between the average for whites and blacks. You can look up average national IQs in 10 seconds and verify this.
>There are smart blacks too btw
I never said their weren't.

>>11708634
They'll tell you how they suffered, but they'll never tell you why.

>>11708624
You’re retarded and your “logic” is entirely outside of reality. It stems from your worship of and obsession with Judaism. I’m guessing a single Christian person involved in an otherwise Jewish enterprise would not be called Christian in nature by you. You are literally beneath human beings. Literally every person on /pol/ is a sexless borderline retarded brainwashed loser.

>>11708638
Jewish suffering has historically been because Muslims and slightly less recently Catholics are uncivilized barbarians. Actually Catholics are still being exposed as a religion of either rapists or people who cover up rape so nvm

>>11708634
Nothing to do with my point, do you often sperg out and go on unrelated tangents like that? Must be fun to be your friend, I mean that sincerely.

As for Germans having no problem ignoring the holocaust, you're really underestimating the cultural work that the Nazis put in during their years at the helm. It wasn't nearly as obvious as you make out to be. Could you at least give Nazis credit for having worked hard on this?

>>11708647
>most of the victims of said overused leddit catholic priest meme are actually little boys.
>(((Your kind))) shills for gays via corporate LGBTard shilling
Oh my.

>>11708610
That's a meme and a dumb one at that. If nonjews were cattle why would they be allowed to convert? Can a cow convert to judaism?

>>11708624
> because they are to blame for the act
kek I guarantee if the scenario was reversed and 1 white guy presented something and 450 Joos voted it in you would blame le Joo. Do you guys actually think you’re fooling anyone when you present your beliefs as though they have any kind of consistency of reasoning behind them? Your poor logic here is 100 percent ideologically motivated and I honestly feel bad for you if you think you can trick anyone into believing otherwise, because that would mean you are constantly embarrassing yourself IRL.

>>11708640
>I’m guessing a single Christian person involved in an otherwise Jewish enterprise would not be called Christian in nature by you.
No, it wouldn't, because again, this argument isn't about religion, it's about Jews and whites. I'm not sure how much you know about your own people, but Judaism is actually both a religion and a race, and most racial Jews tend to be both. They also have a very close knit society, which makes them better at undermining other peoples. A single Christian person in a Jewish enterprise would not make the enterprise Christian because of these two reasons.
>You are literally beneath human beings.
>You’re retarded and your “logic” is entirely outside of reality.
>It stems from your worship of and obsession with Judaism.
Again, typical Jewish tricks - I've seen these ones many times, particularly the last one is a favorite of your people. It's clever too, trying to twist the argument into some sort of "obsessive" thing, as opposed to just arguing in good faith.
>Literally every person on /pol/ is a sexless borderline retarded brainwashed loser.
I don't go on /pol/, and I doubt I will ever start.
>>11708649
Catholicism died in the 1400's and again in the 1900's - any true Christian is now either a sedavancinist or some sort of Protestant.

>>11708653
Well, I suppose your (((mother))) counts. I mean, that's actually how jewish heritage is determined, by the mother.

>>11708653
Not to mention Jews marry non Jews almost all the time, which is about the epitome of proof they don’t consider non Jews cattle. I’m guessing a few do but that’s pretty mild compared to Christianity where non believers burn for eternity or Islam where they have to die.

>>11707774
/pol/ is retarded, they think science is right about race and intelligence but think science is wrong about gender. it's a larp board.

>>11708637
Well whats your problem with the status quo? The system is setup to promote smart blacks and to try to help the rest. IF you think thats a waste of resources, consider that we used to do even less and the results were even worse.

>>11707774
>Do you think that /pol/ is right about race and intelligence?
Yes. The way academics, politicians, and journalists tiptoe around the issue suggests something is there.
Anytime there is black underachievement, not even an ounce of curiosity is put into the hypothesis that it stems from intelligence differences between races even though it is a simple and explanatory hypothesis.
All of the energy gets put into looking for the systemic racism that is concluded must exist because it is assumed there is no other possible cause.
Not only is that faulty logic but it creates an incentive to collectively underachieve in order to get undeserved jobs or to be able to get by while slacking.

Personally, I think admitting there is a gap leads to a better moral outcome of helping the disadvantaged than assuming the problem is systemic racism and demonizing people who did nothing wrong.

>>11708647
Jewish suffering has historically been due to their nasty habit of usury, lack of academic integrity, nepotism, parasitic business practices or some combination of those, and getting called out on it by the goyim, then having to pay the price by getting killed or put into ghettos.

>>11708684
yea none of that is true and you are an imbecile for believing it

>>11707774
Pol is rarely (never?) right.
When they have a decent point, it gets flooded with irrational wrongness (usually by them, occasionally slide/glow), or it simply gets deleted/prematurely-archived.
There's no market for truth in race, especially on a board like Pole, while there is a huge Market at the same time competing for the same board space which consists of either racial bait, or us-vs-them cult-like manipulation.
I know this is itself in the spirit of a bait thread, but this is the answer

>>11708649
>It wasn't nearly as obvious as you make out to be. Could you at least give Nazis credit for having worked hard on this?
I find it funny that even decades after WW2, TPTB have struggle to find paperwork detailing the holocaust yet apparently the average German in nazi Germany was supposed to be well aware of it. Hell people these days don't even seem to realise the holocaust didn't begin until well into WW2 and was never outlined as a goal before hand.

>>11708684
Actually it was mostly because they “killed Jesus” and then the typical minority thing of being persecuted for not fitting in. There were a few occasions where they actually did something, but in said cases were punished especially harshly for no reason.

>>11708664
That's to sap the important people from the goyim:
>be jew
>see the goyim have intelligent leaders, quality scientists, successful mathematicians, ect.
>bingo
>set up jewess daughter with leaders
>claim their father's discoveries for your people
>now the JEW lineage inherits the intelligence genes
It's been happening in academia since the dissolution of the Jewish ghetto.

>>11708666
>but think science is wrong about gender
What?

>>11708702
Apparently, being a xir is scientifically legitimate.

>>11708675
How does the system "help the rest"

>>11708708
They give them a lot of school resources and free tablets and chromebooks and make sure they can read/write/dobasicmath.

>>11708687
Go read what the europeans thought about jews in the 1700s and 1800s.
If the tropes attributed to jews were so good at turning populations against them, then why don't those same tropes get used to turn populations against other undesireable groups?
Maybe those tropes ring truest when applied to jews because there is more truth to them when applied to that group than any other group.

>>11708697
Obviously you can come up with a nonsense conspiratorial reason to explain away the countless proofs that you are wrong. Even flat earthers manage that and they are the only people alive as dumb as neonazis are.

>>11708708
I don't get it. What is the purpose of saying "blacks have lower iq!" IT SEEMS like people want to say: "there's no hope for them so stop giving public resources to them and give them to ME instead". Is that it?

>>11707774
small brain: there is no difference
small brain: there is a difference so we need to treat niggers like slaves again
big brain: there is a difference but not big enough to warrant any discriminatory policies

>>11708712
Because they “killed Jesus.” When you tell the idiot masses that the boogeyman killed your messiah (never mind the hilarious logic issues there) they’re much more willing to believe any stupid evil shit you tell them. Only a few people need to believe it initially and then it snowballs.

Also you morons vastly overestimate how much jews have been persecuted relative to other groups. The other Abrahamic religions have been persecuted basically as much

>>11708715
More like: stop giving the resources. We don't need GIBS, we want to keep the money or at least have our tax dollars not used for GIBSMEDAT programs.

>>11708702
Don't you know anon that if you chop your dick your Y chromosomes become X?

>>11708722
>Because they “killed Jesus.”
Can you find a historic example of when that excuse was used?
I don't think Hitler even tapped into that.
Also the crusades against the muslims were much worse than jewish expulsions and they didn't kill jesus.

>you morons vastly overestimate how much jews have been persecuted relative to other groups.
Maybe you vastly underestimate how much their actions played a role.

>>11708714
Okay jew we get it you let them nadzies live rent free in your nose

>>11708714
Look it up, nearly every German in academia who was not Jewish was married to a Jew, imagine a couple hundred years of that.

>>11708730
>More like: stop giving the resources. We don't need GIBS, we want to keep the money or at least have our tax dollars not used for GIBSMEDAT programs.
Its not a lot of resources and it is necessary because it enables them to do as well as they do. If you stop giving them the resources then it would be even worse. I do agree we should be doing UBI tho.

The society you want will turn out to be south africa style with enclaves and roaming blackies.

Right now we don't have that. Blacks get help and education and services. Most are competent and can hold down a job. So thats because of the resources.

>>11707774
A)Intelligence isn't widely defined
B)Race doesn't have a definition
C)There's no reason to look into it as to get nothing done calling other people smart and dumb
D)There currently isn't enough proof to say if there is a correlation

>>11708742
The reason SA is darkie land is because whites aren't allowed to be white anymore there

>>11708715
I don't think any society should be built on the idea of one group working to sustain another group with no mutual benefit if that's what you're asking.
> give them to ME instead
I don't think anything should be forcefully given to me if that's what you're implying.

It would be nice if you stopped trying to make assumption and pretending I'm saying things that I haven't. It's debating in extremely poor faith.

>>11708746
Its because they decided to carroll blacks into disgusting ghettos for decades and then the blacks got out.

Right now we have suburban white flight but its not comparable. The cities are OK places. The black neighborhoods are largely ok too except for specific parts of St Louis and Detroit and Georgia. The rest are up-and-coming. Look at how Oakland is transforming.

>>11708710
That's a fair point.

>>11708748
>I don't think any society should be built on the idea of one group working to sustain another group with no mutual benefit if that's what you're asking.
The vast majority of tax receipts come from the 10% and the 1%. Unless your family earned 3,000,000+ , I'm sorry but its not even your money. Also, it is what it is. If there's a war, they'll be conscripted to fight. They already do janitorial work or drive busses and stuff all over the country.

>>11708715

Not him but of course that's what it is. Ignore the fact that applying eugenics (keep the top 1% to breed, discard the 99%) would equal the discrepancy out immediately. It's all about competition and they don't want it. Look at the situation with Han Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews both groups are top performers on basically all marks yet they get vilified repeatedly. Why is this? They contribute to academia, are economic engines of the globe yet the only praise they get is some backhanded hur at least they aren't nigs!

Imagine if another group emerged from the rank and file to be a top performer. They would lose their shit. You are already starting to see the rumblings of it again with immigrant Indians and to lesser extent Nigerians. They don't want competition, they want as many gibs as they want without looking like hypocrites.

>>11708742
>The society you want will turn out to be south africa style with enclaves and roaming blackies

So your argument is people should have their wealth forcibly redistributed to other groups solely so those groups don't violently attack them?

How is that any different to slavery? At that point why not deport/kill the potentially violent group? I'm not sure where this idea that people have a responsibility to prop up other groups comes from.

>>11708752
I'm not even American. I'm arguing the principle, not your arbitrary definition of "Well it's not that much so why do you care". But even the I care because its not a real solution in the long run, it only creates more welfare dependence.

>>11707778
go to raddit then

>>11708761
>So your argument is people should have their wealth forcibly redistributed to other groups solely so those groups don't violently attack them?
Nah, its to make these people productive members of society. OK maybe not every single one will be a computer architect engineer at INTEL or AMD. That's fine. They can be teachers, nurses, drivers, factory workers, etc.

> I'm not sure where this idea that people have a responsibility to prop up other groups comes from.
Shared nationality and citizenship.

>At that point why not deport/kill the potentially violent group?
That's an option too but it won't be popular. Also, the US is watched by other countries all the time. the Euros and Russians and Chinese will jump on that. During the cold war, US was billed as a racist imperialist regime by the Soviets.

>How is that any different to slavery?
Are you implying you're the slave? Like I said, the people who are actually contributing the resources to the public tax recipts, the mega corps and rich people -- they are ok with this status quo. So you and your family likely don't deserve all the public resources you receive either if you wanted to do a 1-1 analysis. You are being subsidized, like many blacks are.

> its not a real solution in the long run, it only creates more welfare dependence.
It doesn't actually. A welder and a nurse who are black can produce a middle class upbringing for their kids. Then their kid or grandkid can turn out to be one of the smart blacks who gets 1500 on the SAT or something. But the initial investments by public resources into producing enough basic competence in the parents and the grandparents to do daily-tasks successfully is what allowed for this to occur. The argument against welfare is not empirical, giving people money does help those people do well and for generations later has good results.

>>11708757
The issue isn't competition, infact it's the opposite. It's in-group preference based solely on being a part of that group, stifling competition. Hollywood isn't overwhelmingly Jewish because Jews are overwhelmingly talented actors and writers. This wouldn't even be a real issue if in-group preference was demonised for certain groups while acceptable for others.

>>11708757
This. It is competition.

>>11708782
No, you want people of other groups to not get help. You want that help to go to your group instead. Well there are better ways to measure which groups should receive help than this petty tribal politics. The country is big and populous enough that it includes many groups so the people who run the country make these determinations. Its not like whites are losing out as a whole-- they are losing to the extent that neoliberal policies ship jobs overseas, but that's also exactly what hurts blacks too. So if you bring factories back that helps whites and blacks and whoever else.

>>11708012
>there is likely a non trivial link between race and intelligence that is culturally
>non trivial
how many black people pursue career in STEM? how many black physicist or mathematician have you seen? even if it's not genetical, their way of living needs to be reformed

>>11708791
>how many black people pursue career in STEM? how many black physicist or mathematician have you seen? even if it's not genetical, their way of living needs to be reformed
There are many, especially at places like Harvard. Its not always US blacks but also international students or recent immigrants like nigerians. Maybe they go into law or economics or arts. As long as they are productive, and participating consumers -- that's a good outcome. We don't get too many STEM people in any case. There is always a need for more STEM. Its not like every white kid is becoming an engineer.

>>11708781
>So you and your family likely don't deserve all the public resources you receive either if you wanted to do a 1-1 analysis
You don't know any thing about me so please, once again I ask you, stop making assumption as it makes it hard to take you seriously. Nor is it relevent, hence why I don't make assumptions about you personally.
> A welder and a nurse who are black can produce a middle class upbringing for their kids
Again you're trying to talk about (hypothetical) specific individuals and using that as as the basis of talking about a group, which doesn't work. I'm honestly getting tired of your lazy arguments.
>The argument against welfare is not empirical
I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. The welfare system has only been getting bigger, people being on welfare are not productive so harping on about nurses and welders is irrelevant if the overall trend is more welfare dependence. The US has been spending more and more money on education every year since atleast the 60s with zero growth in average academic results. You can even look at what material was being covered in each grades 100 year ago compared to now and see how the standard has declined. Money is being wasted and there isn't any return on it, contrary to your made up specific examples.

>>11708818
>I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. The welfare system has only been getting bigger, people being on welfare are not productive so harping on about nurses and welders is irrelevant if the overall trend is more welfare dependence. The US has been spending more and more money on education every year since atleast the 60s with zero growth in average academic results. You can even look at what material was being covered in each grades 100 year ago compared to now and see how the standard has declined. Money is being wasted and there isn't any return on it, contrary to your made up specific examples.
There's an argument to be made for more efficient welfare, in which case i agree. I think UBI is a better way to give welfare than the current status quo.

>>11708818
The rest of your points are idiotic. I said if you are a millionaire then you are a net contributor. otherwise you are merely a subsidized recipient. that is a fact.

the people who are millionaires don't mind the welfare programs. they get it. you don't.

>>11708742
>Its not a lot of resources
Half a trillion a year is a lot.
>The society you want will turn out to be south africa style with enclaves and roaming blackies.
We already have that. That shit appeared after 1964. Go to the black part of any major city.

How does your strategy ensure the problem doesn't grow?
The percent of gdp spent on welfare has grown every year since its inception and is at 5% now.
It might be "affordable" now but there is a tipping point.
Eventually we will slowly creep past that tipping point or there will be an abrupt economic shock that pushes us past it.
How does your strategy prevent those who are contributing more than their fair share from leaving and going to a country without such a large burden?
All it would take is one country crafting it's laws to prevent freeloaders and everyone worth a damn will move there.
The golden goose will be killed eventually and everyone that depends on it will have a rough time.

>>11708818
>Again you're trying to talk about (hypothetical) specific individuals and using that as as the basis of talking about a group, which doesn't work. I'm honestly getting tired of your lazy arguments.
no i'm using it to illustrate a point. and there are many such cases. you're getting dogmatic though. you're not willing to consider counter examples or arguments. that means you're an idiot .

most welfare spending is for the VA/Social security and those aren't negotiable. those are the perks of being a military grunt and of paying social security insurance for 30+ years. the other entitlements for medicare are similar. people pay into it for years and then they receive it. medicaid is necessary from a public health and human capital point of view, especially for children. the housing is a meme, it needs more funding not less and it became shitty in places like the bronx because the funding got cut all of a sudden. in any case the section 8 vouchers end up going to billionaires like kushner and trump anyway so they aren't complaining. plus the alternative is to just let people be homeless and that's not a good one.

>>11708788
>No, you want people of other groups to not get help
I never said that, nice projection
>You want that help to go to your group instead
Once again nice projection.
>should receive help
This is my problem and you're too much of an arse to understand the argument. I don't want people like you deciding how money I have worked hard for should be forcibly redistributed. I want to make my own decision about who I donate money to, black, white or fucking purple and orange stripped people. Who should received help from me should be my decision. I'd personally like to be able to support my family more.

>>11708836
>We already have that. That shit appeared after 1964. Go to the black part of any major city.
It got a lot better. I've been to Compton, Oakland, St Louis, New Orleans, Detroit, Harlem, Queens, Atlanta, Richmond, Cleveland, and Chicago personally. And some more i'm missing. They are OK places for the most part. The worst is probably St Louis. There the problem is actually just de population after de industrialization. Its an issue throughout the rust belt and midwest.

>I'd personally like to be able to support my family more.
Ok. So this is a country where you receive public goods and services and have obligations. Blacks, like others will be conscripted if we are invaded. So they are full citizens and have the right to goods and services. If you don't like it. Go somewhere else. Seriously. It's also not even your money. The vast majority of tax receipts come from ultra rich people and corporations. Like billionaires end up paying 40% of all taxes and fortune 500 covers the remaining.

>>11708843
>projection
Nah, its this thing high iq people do where they understand instantly your background understanding and argumentative stance and can see what you're aiming at... even if you don't.

>>11708827
You're an idiot. I'm not wasting my time with you.

>>11708824
I'm not sure about UBI, but something that is actually based on results and adjusted when it isn't producing them would be ideal.

>>11708840
>no i'm using it to illustrate a point
You're not illustrating a point, your making personal assumptions and you're too much of an idiot to understand why thats not making a real argument.

>plus the alternative is to just let people be homeless and that's not a good one.
No the alternative is not to give people money for nothing, and create a system that ultimately leads to self sufficiency, not one that incentivises more redistribution and reliance on handouts.

>>11708855
>No the alternative is not to give people money for nothing, and create a system that ultimately leads to self sufficiency, not one that incentivises more redistribution and reliance on handouts.
We need UBI but people have a problem with that. The whole job training stuff in exchange for gibs is not a good system. It is fundamentally flawed but it makes idiots like you happy. We need to give UBI with no strings attached. It pisses off liberals who want big programs and conservatives who want muh moral accountability but it is necessary and it actually empirically works. People want to feel confident and empowered, not babied and oppressed. The current welfare lets them live with some dignity but not with confidence. UBI would. The confidence thing is actually very important. For anyone qualifying btw, not just blacks. So lots of whites in appalachia receive welfare too and should get UBI instead.

>>11707774
That it is correlated? Yes, obviously. Nobody disputes this.

That it is causal? lol

Don't get your info from /pol/ buddy. Or here either, because it has been taken over by /pol/. I haven't even looked at the thread. I bet it's full of bullshit infographics, copypastas, and general propaganda.

>>11708855
The mythical welfare queen is an extremely rare thing.

>>11708851
High IQ like ignoring my actual argument completely so you can keep attacking an easily defeatable strawman opponent? You sure showed me Einstein.
>I know you better than you know yourself
I don't know about IQ, but you definitely certainly have a larger ego than me if you're seriously arguing that.

>>11708862
>It is fundamentally flawed but it makes idiots like you happy
What makes you think I want that? Frankly I don't know enough about how effective it is, I'm happy to admit that and would like to see what specifically you're referring too.
You talk out your arse and think I do the same. I've repeatedly said what I want is a system that measures results and adjusts accordingly. Neither the current system, the system you are advocating nor the one you claim I'm advocating for are that. Meanwhile youre talking about how no strings UBI is that answer with zero evidence to support your claim that this will somehow be better.

>>11708879
What do you consider rare?

>>11708588
>>11708572
Singapore IQ 108
Germany IQ 100
That's 8 points of difference. Now remove meme aspects of IQ like verbal intelligence and measure only the mathematical and spatial intelligence you'll see the gap almost becomes 1 SD

>>11708881
I don't know about IQ, but you definitely certainly have a larger ego than me if you're seriously arguing that.
Well its one of the perks of being high iq. So for you the mystery that is your motivations and intentions and hopes and dreams. To me, it is all obvious the moment you wrote a single sentence in this thread.
>how no strings UBI is that answer with zero evidence to support your claim that this will somehow be better.
Cope. There is evidence for UBI. It just rustles jimmies to give out "free money with zero strings". Families with UBI in switzerland and finland had better educational outcomes and job outcomes than families with dedicated job training programs. As a poor person you need this breath of fresh air and confidence that you aren't gonna starve and suddenly you start noticing opportunities that were staring you in the face.

>>11708894
>Implying spacial isn't the most meme IQ metric
Reminder that verbal and mathematical IQ are the most predictive of success in science, spacial IQ is baby weight.

>>11708848
>I'd personally like to be able to support my family more.
I never made that point.
>The vast majority of tax receipts come from ultra rich people and corporations. Like billionaires end up paying 40% of all taxes and fortune 500 covers the remaining.
I fully recognized their importance.
They are the golden goose that I'm afraid will leave when something less worse comes along.
They already partially left when they outsourced everything to china.
They also hide their money in offshore tax havens.
They are the people that can afford to pack up and move to where the grass is greenest.
I want my country to have the greenest grass in order to convince them to stay.

>>11708892
Along the lines of how Ronald Reagan couldn't even find one to complain about, so he had to make false accusations. It's just never been demonstrated to be prevalent, at all.

>>11708637
Stop making claims about iq if you can't even tell the difference between their they're and there

Inbred moneky

>>11708901
>I want my country to have the greenest grass in order to convince them to stay.
This is peak cuckholdry.

>>11708895
>Well its one of the perks of being high iq. So for you the mystery that is your motivations and intentions and hopes and dreams. To me, it is all obvious the moment you wrote a single sentence in this thread.
No one with a high IQ would type this out unironically.

>>11708895
>There is evidence for UBI
Evidence for UBI for achieving what exactly...

Either way would you mind providing it.

>>11708905
I mean, you can look up the number of government assistance receiptents very easily to prove to yourself it's not rare at all.

>>11708909
You sure showed him.

>>11708912
>No one with a high IQ would type this out unironically.
Yeah I usually refrain from letting the npcs know we have this power.

>>11708679
You're a retard if you think telling backs they're retarded is a good idea

White savior idealogy is beyond retarded I can't

>>11708745
This

>>1170892
I understand, If I had the power of autism I'd hide it too.

>>11708909
>Ha! He made a typo, now is my chance

>>11708914
Being on welfare =/= welfare queen. You can work a minimum wage job and still need welfare because the minimum wage sucks. And that's the vast majority of welfare recipients.

>>11708232
Sadly this
/sci/ seeks the truth
/pol/ makes the truth whatever they want

>>11708932
Its not a typo it's not knowing

Questions like this are asked on IQ tests.
Black's usually don't know this difference because they speak ebonics.

>>11708938
It reeks of desperation when you dodge the substance of a post to attack grammar/spelling errors.

>>11708949
It has no substance.

>>11708949
Isn't it ironic how blacks are called stupid because they make the same errors?

>>11708969
Just like every other post in this thread

Races have evolved all manner of clear divergent traits after 50,000-100,000 years of separation. Some races went through severe population bottlenecks in that process (like Eurasians) which further exacerbated the genetic drift.

Blacks exhibit the worst test scoring on any given metric of intelligence (IQ, standardized testing, or otherwise), by a solid degree, and haven't put together a single 1st world level country on the planet on their own. They are the lower class of any nation they inhabit that happens to be multi-ethnic. Before European colonists arrived in Africa, Arabs and North Africans had their way with them for centuries. Then Europe easily colonized them and traded them like a commodity. They had not developed a written word, system of writing, and things like math and science may have well been Alien technology.

So you tell me why I'm supposed to believe "the other side" and just write off this enormous, clearly apparent schism as some kind of artifact of randomness or circumstance? I'd posit the the anti race realists are the insane, delusional ones, not muh poltards.

>>11708983
Are they? I thought it was the crime and living in mud huts, not their grammar on 4chan.

>>11708994
Do you think native Americans were retarded savages too?

Post reeks of brainwashing

>>11709001
I'm talking about IQ tests you moneky
IQ tests ask questions like " what is the difference between their they're and there"

>>11709003

They were similarly behind, but still more tech advanced than sub-Saharan Africans, and what's more were recent to the American continent as well as totally geographically isolated and incapable of commerce with Europe/ME/Asia. I'm not totally blind to circumstances but the thing is Africans have almost no excuses.

And don't ignore my point about modern potential. Africans have been given extraordinary gifts that other cultures (S American, Asian) have taken advantage of in ways that Africans haven't.

Please stop projecting, you're the delusional one.

>>11708032
Whoops lol

>>11709009
>>11709001
I'm neither of the people participating in this conversation, but IQ tests don't ask these types of questions at all. They ask common sense questions like "can people fly?", but nothing at all related to grammar has ever shown up on IQ tests I'm familiar with.

/pol/ is stupid. Intelligence happens when you have good conditions in very early childhood.

>>11709030

I'm pretty sure it's mostly pattern recognition and simple problem solving, not even questions like that. There's nothing culture-specific like language or grammar lol.

>11709037
>pretty sure
Nice to know you don't know what an IQ tests consists of.
In my expireience they are mostly pattern recognition though.

Shouldn't the fact that IQ exams varry so much lut the validity of these tests into question?

>>11709030
Nice exam you got there

>>11709044

I took one when I was 13 for advanced classes. IQ exams don't vary much, the ones you take online or by fake proctors aren't real, official testing is quite regulated and standardized.

>>11709009
But do you genuinely believe that poster doesn't know the difference between they, there and their based of their previous posts? And do you believe focusing on that adds anything to your argument either way?

I'm not fixating on the fact you've misspelt monkey twice now for the same reason, even though it is a more basic error to make.

>>11707774
It would be amazing if they were NOT right about it. That's because biology predicts differences according to evolution, and "races" really just represent relatively isolated populations in different environments.
For example, why are people in south India on average shorter than people in Russia or Europe?
Why do Chinese people tend to have dark hair?
Why do Africans tend to have dark skin the further south you go?
These are all different populations which evolved apart from one another over thousands of years, in different environments.
So it only makes sense that IQ tests would score these populations differently.

The most obvious example of this fact, to me, is how California bans IQ tests of its black students, and how testing scores are being dropped for university admissions for similar reasons. Circumstantially, observe how black Americans speak and write the English language. They as a group have trouble with it, which points to IQ.

These are all "tells" which formal studies would tend to clarify.

>>11707778
It's only shit to people who don't like the implications.

>>11707834
Not a good explanation, because these kinds of scores and tests span across all sorts of different environments and there is always a stunning difference in IQ between different "racial" populations.

>>11707839
It doesn't have to be excessively complicated. If you take it at face value, then a lot of the problems in society make a lot more sense. You can add complexity at that point, but it really comes down to how you want to deal with it, rather than truth.

>>11708012
Genetically? How can you say that with a straight face? Look at how different the various populations of humans are from each other, yet we should believe that their brains are identical?

>>11708035
pol likes to buck against the mainstream, for its own sake. It isn't rational, just rebellious.

>>11708435
Machiavellian but true.

>>11708938
>Vehemently argues that typos are a result of low Intelligence
> Makes a typo

>>11709044
>Nice exam you got there
I don't see what you're trying to imply here, except that you were wrong with trying to correct the other anon on his spelling mistake, and implying something fallacious from it.
I've taken 3 tests (not of my own accord) and all of them have been almost exactly the same. The only differences that occur generally are in the presentation of the test based on age, but even then it's very little. The main differences in IQ tests would probably occur across types of administered IQ tests, but I've taken two variations and both had the same core principles of common sense questions, memory, and pattern recognition. Regardless, things which were above the very basic required understanding of someone in that grade were not employed - for example, phrasing of the questions is fixed to be understandable for whatever age/education level is being examined at the most basic level.

>>11709053
>>11709053
Typos don't have anything to do with knowing the difference between words


You're a monkey too

There is nothing worth discussing here I just found it ironic that an inbred fuck is talking about IQ when he'd probably score low on an IQ test.

>>11709064
An IQ test that asks if people can fly should not be of merit anywhere

Did you take this when you were 5?

>>11709077
Why do you keep trying to change the subject to the most basic topics? I took that particular test when I was around 6 or 7 years old. The test still contained pattern recognition and memory skills, and the I doubt the common sense section had much of a role to play outside of determining that the subject isn't actually retarded.

>>11709074
But from >>11708938 you clearly don't know the difference between its and it's. Why is this the hill you want to die on?

>>11709074
he even made a typo in his first sentence>>11708938. all the while calling people who make typos are stupid in the very post. this cannot be topped

>>11709089
He also used the possessive form "black's" when he should have used the plural "blacks"

>>11708450
In America and largely the west, blacks are used as a cudgel to beat others with politically and socially. I suppose, from a biological perspective, this makes sense because in a competition between groups one which is higher in intelligence might ruthlessly use a less intelligent group to take out its enemies.

>>11708517
That's avoiding the elephant in the room which is that if evolution works for everything else, why not intelligence?

>>11708588
Recall that in mainstream white culture rap is glorified. Average white people use the vernacular, and wear the symbols. So I would say that the comparison is apt. I know when i see average young white people I sometimes feel like what that anon said.

>>11708722
You should read books from that era. The people in those days were intelligent, and more probing than you give them credit for. Trying to write them all off as being idiots and easy to manipulate is in bad faith.

>>11708742
Wrong. When you give money to poor people, you just incentivize being poor. The best way to motivate people to grow is hardship. In America, blacks lead a privileged existence because they are protected from criticism and are given handouts. That makes them weak and stupid. Remove these things and give them struggle. When they get angry, tell them "No! You must work harder!" and in a generation you will start to see improvement.
Patronizing? Sure, but it's the only way for a group of people to improve their lot.

>>11708749
The black south africans could not live as equals to the whites. The hard truth is that for them to live as equal would require generations of benevolent leadership from the whites. Blacks never built their own civilizations like Europeans, Mediterraneans, Chinese and native Americans did. They never learned the traits needed, and so it must be taught to them.

>>11708781
You seem very wide-eyed. Your arguments are based solely on optimal outcomes with no flexibility for reality.

>>11709089
Its =possessive
It's = it is

Symptoms of being a phoneposter

Honestly there's no point in even having an honest conversation wirh you niggers. You are all so twisted in your retarded worldview that the only solution is for you all to figure it out yourself over time.

I suggest you ingest copious amounts of LSD If you gentlemen really want to challenge your notions.

>>11709058
>>11709105

Nigga are you actually trying to start an argument with every single person in this thread? Lmao

>>11709109
****yourselves. ****worldviews
;-)

>>11709105
>Recall that in mainstream white culture rap is glorified. Average white people use the vernacular, and wear the symbols.
I'm not so sure. It's glorified after the fact it was promoted by the music industry in the west. Rap also has its fans in the east too. Its not a fair comparison to make as east asians haven't been subject to the same influences and media as white westerners. You could use the same logic to make an argument based on kpop, or metal, but I just don't think it's a very rigorous case.

>I sometimes feel like what that anon said
Yes well I think even intelligent people are susceptible to social and media preasures and influences. It's interesting to contemplate if and how quickly rap's appeal would die out if it lost media support. By contrast metal seems to endure irrespective of media promotion.

>>11709114
You missed "wirh".

>>11709141
It was a given that it was an obvious mistake

>>11709144
Fixating on obvious mistakes is what got him into this mess to begin with, seems appropriate to highlight his own.

>>11709013

>but still more tech advanced than sub-Saharan Africans

Only the Mesoamericans were more tech advanced. Northern Amerindians (proper Native Americans/first nation peoples) literally have fuck all to show for and are actually worst in several aspects to Sub-Saharan Africans specifically compared to Nigerians and Ethiopians despite having higher IQs.

>Africans have been given extraordinary gifts that other cultures (S American, Asian) have taken advantage of in ways that Africans haven't

Big emphasis should be placed on ""given"" as the trick is those gifts were rarely taught to them for their own means of use. Most of the time they were given "gifts" strictly to build for the use of foreign occupants. What good is it to have your people be taught how to build railroads if you aren't allowed to utilize them yourself? Only recently within the past several decades have South Africans been allowed to actually operate and fully control the upkeep of trains and railroads on the continent.

It's not like what is was in Japan where the Japanese were taught and immediately allowed to control the operation and upkeep of it railroads/trains. Africans weren't given that luxury to do such a thing despite being "gifted" it. They were nothing more than sacrificial slave labor.

>>11709109
I've only known people to become more redpilled with massive amounts of LSD.

>>11707774
They are right that blacks are dumber, but they are wrong to assume that the genetic reason for their lower intelligence is also the reason for their biological race.
Talking very simplistically, the intelligence gene might have alleles A1 and A2, A1 is the high intelligence allele that whites have and A2 is the dumb allele
Let B1 and B2 be the race alleles where B1 is for whites and B2 is for blacks.
Its probably true that the proportion of B2 people with the A2 allele is higher than the proportion of B1 people with the A1 allelel, but it is not likely that the A and B genes are intrinsically connected.

That is, if blacks had a few generations of eugenics, maybe a war to cull all the dumb people (which whites had in WW1, WW2 and the black plague), then they would probably have the same intelligence as whites.

>>11707774
>Do you think that /pol/ is right
lol no

Okay hold up

When and where were the IQ studies made? Are american blacks being tested for IQ as a group today? If so how are they being selected?

>>11707774
No. Whites have something reversed in the brain, which makes them insane, so they think they are smarter than others, because they don't understand their crazy thinking.
Eye contact is reversed. (look to listen, instead of look to speak)
Body langauge is all round different.
Fights to make the world according to their beliefs, instead to straighten their beliefs to be true; consequently the society is supposed to make the way for the individual, instead of the individual adapting to fit the society. (AKA "freedom")
Feels convinced of of X by getting convinced that the consequences of X would be good, instead of the reverse. (a good way to get killed in a disaster)
Likes to notice when they are being lied to, and hates to learn the truth, instead of the reverse.
Needs to have his things, people are expendable; grouped by common hate instead.

>>11708881
>You sure showed me Einstein
He did show you, and you're embarrassing yourself.

>>11709379
>it is not likely that the A and B genes are intrinsically connected.
But why do you assume racists think they are ?

They are some intelligent people amoing blacks and if they were suddenly the only ones reproducing, blacks would become an intelligent race with the next generation.
But accidental or planned eugenics are not on the table for now, so dumb blacks will keep outbreeding smart ones and A and B will remain *demographically* linked.

Problems don't get solved just because solutions exist.

>>11709448
Your take on white exceptionalism is NOT unpleasant to my white, racist ears.
As long as wee agree that we're too different to coexist I don't mind your hate.

>>11709448
Well if it isn't our resident black schizo, your theory is getting sloppier by the week.

>>11709448

schizo

>>11707774
keep ruining /sci/ with ur moron threads faggot, r u gonna spend the rest of ur pathetic life talking about uhhh iq uhhh race uhhh iq high uhhh inferior uhhh superior uhhhh jew... spare us please loser, u cant take there r more intelligent band successful coloured people than u...cope loser

>>11709539
Excellently crafted.

>>11709523
>so dumb blacks will keep outbreeding smart ones
Literally the same thing happens in all races, but especially whites.

To an extent I guess. There can still be smart black people though and I'd rather want to be stuck somewhere with an intelligent black person than a white one. Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are similar to white intelligence, and some middle-eastern/north-African people too.
But I unironically believe that white people and ashkenazi jews carry a rare possibility of a genetic brain mutation which makes a handful of them capable of very outside things, I know I'm basing this on a fairly eurocentric world view though.

>>11709597
intelligent black person than a dumb white one*

>>11709448
Wh*toids BTFO