/sci/ - Science & Math

literally 80% of em
i'm included

>>11699925
Yes.
Me.

Have you ever met dumb people that think smart people are dumb?

>>11701367
Yes.
Me.

I went to an ivy league and while there are people in state schools that are smarter, in general those that graduate from the ivy league know much more if the state school person didn't self study. Youre kidding yourself and probably aren't smart but think you are.

>>11701375
There's no difference between thinking you're smart and actually being smart.

>>11699925
Humble people, yes. Sheltered people, yes. Dumb people get filtered out quickly. Undergrads tend to be smarter than the grads that didn't go to ivy league.

Hard cope on the off chance you're asking passive aggressively.

Most the people I’ve met from Ivy League schools were dumb. I said this on the other board.

>>11699925

Honestly depends on the Major. If ("someone is in the field of science or mathematics") and ("from an ivy league school") then ("they are smart").

>>11699925
Donald Trump

>>11699925
You don't need to be smart to go to an Ivy League school. The three things you really need are in descending importance:
-Being directly related to the important donors and/or the adminsitrative/academic stuff of the university
-Being closely related to people that have gone to Ivy League schools or are influental upper-class people.
-Having the right ethnicity
Only then the SAT score and school marks come.
-

>>11699925
I've never met anyone who attends an Ivy League school, so no.

not sure, they were all super normies so i never got along with any of them

>>11701388
numericals proof that this statement is true

I went on a few dates with this fugly half thai-chinese girl from brown
she seemed pretty smart

>>11699925

Yes.

In the real world (outside of Academia), no one really gives half a shit where you studied in college. Graduating from an ivy league or a prestigious school is a depreciating asset on your resume, post-college experience is all that matters.

>>11701652
No, just no. Here are why people are accepted to ivy league schools:

1.) High GPA (3.7+)
2.) Heavy AP course load
3.) 2000+ SAT
4.) 30+ ACT

The above are the bare minimun, and here are extras that give you a competetive edge (which is absolutely necessary)

1.) Related to donors
2.) You are a legacy
3.) Won competitions at a national level
4.) From an ivy league feeder school
5.) Reccomendation from a highly regarded person in academia/politics/business that funds the school
6.) Exemplary social media presence.

The schools don't give a fuck if you're smart, they want to see what you bring to the table that others can't, and choose those people first, and the rest are chosen from legacies or people related to donors, and then they probably just choose the best on a cumulative ranking.

>>11701615
Donald Trump is a genius.

>>11699925
Only jews and non-whites are dumb at the ivy league schools because they were let in by fellow jewish supremacist.

>>11699925
In every top school really. Get into instagram right now and type "[T20 school] Class of 2024" and you'll see quite a lot of rich normie academically orienteed people and a few geniuses, but not more than that.

>>11701615
>orange man bad
how do you explain a "dumb person" pulling off one of the biggest upsets in the history of the presidential election?

>>11699925
Trump went to UPenn which is an Ivy League school

Not in the US, but some people were fired after being admitted to a quite selective school. Most flunked because they were depressed/finally not interested, but some were apparently fucking dumb.

>>11702241
he's a boomer and you might not like his policies, but he's far from dumb.

>>11701916
>1.) High GPA (3.7+)
>2.) Heavy AP course load
>3.) 2000+ SAT
>4.) 30+ ACT
that is an incredibly low lower bound for a T20
if you got in with that you probably had something really strong going for you that would have gotten you in even without that

t. will seethe at the ivyfags from my school once they start making money

>>11702264
Yeah true. I had a 4.4, 2150, 32 (35 in math and Science), with all APs, several extracurriculars, several regional, state, and national titles to my name.

>>11702264

>>11702264

>>11702278
And you're on 4chan. How the mighty have fallen.

>>11702278
thanks for the triple (You)
idk i went to a state school with a 3.1 gpa and a 2000 sat. i'm pretty unremarkable

my school was rife with 35/36 act, 2200+ sat, 3.9 unweighted gpas that all got rejected from ivies. the ones who got in were finalists or semifinalists at various competitions
i had a 3 year head start cause they went to med and grad school but i got held back from undergrad 3 years

>>11701388
I read somewhere that the buddha, Kant and Euler were both able to derive this statement through philosophy alone.

>>11701388
I believe this unironically.

>>11699925
Yeah, my classmates in first year. Do you think all Ivy League dropouts are Bill Gates?

>>11701916
There was a girl I knew who got into an ivy league with pretty average grades, but there was a school scholarship named after her family so that was enough

>>11699925
current student here - the population of ivies is pretty interesting. I'd say the majority of the population isn't that much smarter than the decently smart kid at a state school, though they usually have some other characteristic that distinguishes them (some talent, athletic ability, interpersonal skill, etc.). The smart kids at ivy leagues are very decently above most state school kids though, and the top top students at ivy leagues are god tier geniuses rivaled by only a handful of state school students in the US.

Did my undergrad at a school not in the Ivy League, but competes for cross-admit students and stacks up with some (not all) of them. Yes, there were recruited athletes who wouldn't have come close to admission. And, yes, there were sons and daughters of big donors wouldn't have gone there had their parents/grandparents not donated tons of money. Were they genuinely "dumb"? Probably not, average intelligence, overall. But, when the average SAT/ACT scores are around 1400s/low-30s (this was around decade ago, easily higher now), yes they stick out. They gravitated to certain majors.

>>11701881
No one in academia gives a shit were you went to school, either. I'm a post-doc at an Ivy League school, and your PI name and reputation matters more than your school. Also, in nearly every STEM field, the general "Ivy League" isn't the best. So its better to go with the stronger PI than the Ivy League school, no question.

>>11701652
Cope

>>11701388
>>11702546
OK zoomer

>>11701916
You forgot:
5.) Not Asian

>>11703555
fuck off chang

>>11702545
Sauce?

>>11699925

Literally all you need to get in is a little over average IQ, and $$$$$

I don't go to an ivy league but I go to Stanford, but no, literally everybody I've met here is smart (except for some of the black students). I feel like I'm the dumbest in the room often, piazza questions indicate to me that everyone else understands things a lot more. FYI I was top 3 students from my rank 50 undergrad and used to be known as the smart guy. Now I'm nothing

fuck

>>11704498
well at least your peers are pushing you to do better

the people in my college cant even form coherent thoughts. They write the most vague bullshit on reports, and use thesaurus to try to sound smart

>>11702215
He got lucky because he was running against Hillary Clinton. Same explanation for Bernie Sanders' popularity

>>11699925
Yes, I know two people significantly dumber than me who either attended or are attending Ivies, both of them are STEM majors and I know for a fact I know more math and science than they ever will and have a higher iq than both of them.

As someone who graduated from a European research university with a history that goes back to the 1200's, I dont give a fuck what university you attended as long as your research is sound. If it is not, fuck off.

>>11699925
Personally, dozens. They aren't special, they're generally wealthier, from good families and better coached than other students. Some of them are still number than a pounded thumb.
>t. lived in Boston for a decade

>>11701615
shit if he's dumb then sign me up

>>11701916
4 should almost go in the top category.

>>11704498
should have gone to a state school. big fish in a small pond feels good compared to the other way around lol. and nobody will remember including you that you went to standford the minute you start your first job.

>>11699925
Havnt met many, but no dummies. I was once taken aback when an ivy league student at an internship said "whoa thats a great idea"

>>11699925
Plenty of wealthy people go through the Ivies because of their family's influence. Donald Trump Jr. notably spent most of his time at Penn getting so drunk he'd piss himself.

The Ivies aren't elite because they house the very best; they house the very best because they're elite. Admission to the university is the upper class' way of rewarding their future underlings.

>>11700054
>>11701370
same

>>11699925
>>11699949

>>11704700
>luck
he beat out 16 other Republican nominees to get there. how do you explain that?

>>11704498
Are you talking undergraduate or graduate?

>>11704498
how did you get into Stanford when you can barely type?

>>11705208
because i'm still smarter than you

>>11705267
didn't answer my question. can't type, can't debate, I call bluff.

>>11699925
i got into 4 ivy league schools and then i went to uc berkeley so i am clearly dumb.

>>11699925
The majority of people you will meet at an Ivy League university are quite dumb.

Source: I went to an Ivy League university.

>>11704720
This. The world is basically filled with idiots who believe their status validates them. They might make a lot of money and be respected but ultimately they contribute very little, and that will eventually be automated. There's probably like 1000 people in the world who's death would be an actual loss.

ivy league students are often smart but more often they are hyper confident and so appear very competent. this makes them seem smart.

>>11705314
googoogaga
cry for me, state school peasant

>>11704774
>The Ivies aren't elite because they house the very best; they house the very best because they're elite. Admission to the university is the upper class' way of rewarding their future underlings.
also this. anyone at a ivy league school quickly discovers that there are legitimately ultra elite people attending.

>>11705431
I go to a top school too, anon. I wouldn't want to dox myself though! Enjoy Stanford!

>>11705427
So either they're smart or smart?

You're retarded if you're asking this question unironically

But to answer your question, yes - - obviously. There are very intelligent people that attended these schools too, but idiots exist everywhere.

I had a friend that went to Stanford and she wasn't a genius, just very good compared to her class. It's all marketing nonsense for the most part, but these schools do offer good networking if that's what you're into.

I think about transferring to Cornell or some shit now that I've finished my associates but I don't think I have the desire nor the desire.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a cope.

I have to say I'm glad we don't have this separation into ivy league and the rest in Germany, at least not in physics.

>>11706507
how many decent universities does germany even have?

>>11706507
Muh capitalism

>>11699925
There's geniuses in community colleges as well as idiots
Same applies for ivy leagues and other elite schools

>>11704774
>>11705432
what the hell is "elite"? this is america, any farm boy can become an elite if he is smart. your brain not your connections is what makes you succeed in life.

I went to Columbia and was underwhelmed with the academic rigor. If I could do it all again I would certainly choose math, physics, or CS and seek out the talented folks better. I think Harvard Princeton Yale (and Stanford MIT) attract slightly better talent but you have outliers in all student bodies.

>>11705208
idk dude i write papers on important things not english

>>11706710
>what the hell is "elite"?
The ultra-wealthy, people of power.

>this is america, any farm boy can become an elite if he is smart.
Yes, I literally said that.

>your brain not your connections is what makes you succeed in life.
Not really. People are very cliquey and stupid.

>>11699925
Trump
/thread

>>11706497
I thought Stanford was the hardest university in the world to get into? I want to say I recall someone had a recommendation letter from President Obama and it still wasn't enough to distinguish himself.

>>11706514
Compared to American ones it seems that most of them are quite good.
However, this is from a viewpoint of theoretical physics, it may well be that there are significant differences in applied subjects due to American universities simply having more money

>>11707678
yeah it's hard because no matter how qualified you are unless you have a nobel prize then it's basically a toss-up. there are thousands of hs graduates who would do equally well at stanford so they have to pick based on a single application. this includes a ton of variables such as the committee's moods, whether they've read similar essays, whether you say something in your essay that they're looking for/not looking for, etc.. the system is pretty busted.

>>11704893
>implying you have to be a genius to trick the retarded
yeah, best words, such smart

>>11706710
Like three stories of home in upper east side. An island and private plane on call. etc.

I'm a math PhD student at a top school who did my undergrad at a middling school, so I've seen both sides of the aisle.

From a TAing perspective, the kids at a top school are a lot more fun to teach. Most of them are curious and well-prepared to tackle more theoretical topics. I can go into fairly technical proofs and expect them to follow. Students at the state school I went to as an undergrad, which was still known as a "public Ivy", were mostly unmotivated and unprepared for advanced STEM subjects. The top 5% at the state school I went to would easily have succeeded at the Ivy I go to now. They would not, however, be the top 5% of the school I'm at now. They would be the top 25%.

The top 5% of a top school's undergrads is smart enough for me to assign them research problems and expect results. There are only a handful of students, maybe the top 0.1%, at a state school who I can expect this of.

The bottom 50% of both schools aren't great, just the ones at an Ivy work harder so it's easier for me to TA them, which I do appreciate.

>>11704783
>Non-Jewish White
They do know Jews aren't white regardless, right?

>>11707678
Every case is different
That kid probably didn't "need" to go to Stanford if that's a legitimate event that happened

>>11708081
Yes but the "white" statistics is mis leading because the majority of the white students are jews.

>>11707931
Is this bait?

These schools are not impossible to get into they're actually a lot easier to get into than yiu think.

Remember most people are "NPCs"... It's pretty easy to distinguish yourself from the crowd when you realize this.

I don't think I can buy into school anymore

I've reached a point where I just prefer learning myself and not listen to some professor with an ego problem that'll probably try to sabotage you over some bullshit.

This could all be a cope though

>>11708156
t. never tried getting into one

if it's so easy then you probably got accepted into all of them right?
anyone can tell you it's pretty much fucking chance unless you're truly exceptional. who cares how many people are "NPCs" when there are still tens of thousands of equally qualified kids competing for a few positions.

stop talking out of your ass

>>11708170
Seethe

My friend got into Stanford and she wasn't a genius at all
She wasn't even #1 in her High school, she didn't have an extreme amount of APs or ECs nor did she have an extreme GPA

She had a 32ACT too.

Every case is different

Countless other stories like this

>>11708209
you're literally proving my point exactly. no wonder you didn't get in anywhere because your comprehension is embarrassingly bad.

>>11708209
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

>>11708209
>>11708170
She goes to wake forest for grad now btw after being denied by the navy
>>11708217
I have no interest in going to uniI don't even know what I want to do wirh my life (I think I want to pursue arts) . I did get accepted into top schools that I was interested at the time, though(didn't attend) .I'd like you to address my failure in comprhenssion If I'm still
failing at comprehending. (I have no idea why you assumed I didn't get into anywhere).

Also obviously these schools are hard to get into, and have geniuses attending them but they're not what you think. People are more than stats

>>11708228
I know what these terms are. Funny enough you're failing at seeing your own bias

You're coming off as a stunted and upset teenager
Aquire awareness and let go of your warped view

>>11708245
She finished Stanford with a 4.0 too bio student I think

I'm so proud of her

We're from Florida

>>11702249
He is extremely dumb.

>>11708245
They gotta let in a few hot students to make the scenery look nice.

>>11708257
I don't think she even got an interview

I don't remember this bit

>>11708245
my initial point: getting into these schools is a total crapshoot because there are so many qualified people and only so many spots
your "retort":
>These schools are not impossible to get into they're actually a lot easier to get into than yiu think.
your "evidence": one mediocre student who managed to get into a single school

how is that not supporting the idea that it's total chance once you're qualified enough? you claimed yourself that she's not better than anyone else, yet she got accepted. by chance. which is exactly what I said

also please don't tell me the schools are "not what I'd think" because I attended one, and am attending another for PhD.

>You're coming off as a stunted and upset teenager
I'm pointing out that your "argument" is completely false and based on your idea that since your friend got into stanford then it's "not impossible" to get in. I never claimed it was impossible, but entirely up to chance unless you have a ridiculous kicker to get you in.

>failing at seeing my own bias
nice unsupported claim, and btw I didn't send you those two links. you're just getting dunked on

>>11708265
I can tell you with 100% certainty that they stalk students instagrams and facebooks. if you seem like a sweet hot student they like that will let you in.

>>11699925
I knew a bunch of kids in high school who had jew relatives that worked at Ivy Leagues that got them in
Most of them weren't retarded, but definitely midwits

>>11708270
How is she a mediocre student if she graduated Stanford a semester ahead wirh a 4. 0 GPA? I was so jealous when she did desu

>>11708285
Once you're in its pretty easy depending on your major. Was she an EE double with biophysics? No? ok IT was easy then.

>>11708285
>My friend got into Stanford and she wasn't a genius at all
>She wasn't even #1 in her High school, she didn't have an extreme amount of APs or ECs nor did she have an extreme GPA

>She had a 32ACT too.

mediocre hs student. you said so yourself, which is what the admission was based on

>>11708287
There is little difference between a 32 and a 36¶

You see things only through numbers there's no point in talking to you

>>11708286
I really don't recall it was bio something

>>11708298
>I really don't recall it was bio something
Yeah basic bio is the most popular major and it is easy.

>>11708298
nice cherry picking based on my direct quoting of you. are you ignoring the part where you said her GPA was just on the good side? and she wasn't a genius? and wasn't even top rank at her school? jesus this is embarassing.
you have no argument so you're just going to stop talking. probably a good move on your part, since you've been consistently failing to respond to the very first point I made.

>>11708304
That might have not even been it

You gentlemen have a very warped view and look at every instance to downplay something on order to reinforce your view. But I admit her getting into this program might have been easier than other ones.

/armchair psychologist

>>11708310
Nah. She was some primo pussy and a hot piece of ass so they let her in to study bio in her yoga pants and cute quarter zip and blond pig tail so the profs/smart kids would have something to think about it. cope. it happens.

>>11708306
Her GPA was a 4.6 or something
She was like 4 in her class Iirc
Only ec was volley
Killed it on essay

Nothing extreme

On the other hand I had a firend with a 5.2 and perfect stats ease btielly, more ECs too I think.. An immigrant too

No ivy just Emory and she couldn't finish it

>>11708322
Yeah there's 10,000 high schools with 10 kids like that each applying to Stanford.

>>11708322
I'm still absolutely floored at how you think this disproves my point that getting in, once you have sufficient qualifications, is almost entirely up to chance. Each one of your responses just goes on to prove my point and you seem to not understand that.

>>11708329
It is up to chance I'm not even reading 90% of your posts atm just answering questions
>>11708325
Big highschool

>>11708343
primo pussy and hot piece of ass with those stats = get into stanford.

>>11708343
then stop responding disagreeing with what I say just because you're too fucking lazy to read. nobody cares about your friend I'm sure she's plenty smart but this isn't a reddit AMA. you're not special for knowing somebody who went to stanford.
you're taking my attempt at pointing out your flawed logic and using it as an opportunity to talk about your friend. just tell her you like her already so she can reject you and you can get on with your life, this level of obsession is unhealthy.

>>11708343
>Big highschool
24,000 high schools in USA. Lets say 10,000 are large ones. Ok. there are top 10 ranked kids in each. all with your friend's caliber of clubs and ecs. that's 100,000 kids. all applying.

>>11708343
god I'm going back to read what you've been saying. why did you even respond to me in the first place? your first response was trying to disagree with me but now you're claiming you agreed with me? did you just want to talk about your friend that much?

>>11708343
At the convocation, the profs and admins gonna appreciate their good decision ;-)

>>11708322
>5.2 GPA
How the fuck is that even possible? Is that a typo?

Its about time we recognize that every single prof mentoring a girl and every single grad student and every single chad-elite student are pumping these girls full 24/7.

>pic related is stanford btw.

>>11708355
Idk one of us has bad comprehension maybe it's a failure on both our parts

I passed my AP lit exams with a 5 so I possibly can't be retarded

I was kind of distracted in the shower so maybe km the retard here idk honestly nor do I really care

My final point I guess would be that numbers don't mean as much as you think
>>11708350
Get dismissed

>>11708363
I had 5.26 gpa. I also took 15 AP tests and got A+ in every class (only AP/IB classes). Not that guy but just coming in with my input.

>>11708363
GPA is based on AP/honors classes versus regular classes, so by taking almost exclusively AP/honors you can get your GPA quite high. it doesn't really mean anything and isn't as impressive as it sounds

>>11708367
>I passed my AP lit exams with a 5 so I possibly can't be retarded
>My final point I guess would be that numbers don't mean as much as you think

holy fuck it writes itself

Stanford bio student i just found on insta.

Do you seriously imagine that she isn't sucking her lab lead prof's cock?

>>11708363
No just a shitload of AP and honor classes

She Was number one

I should mention that i know for a fact that profs/admins/grad students constantly fuck these girls and that these girls get preferential treatment and nobody gives a fuck. it only becomes an issue when one cries rape. but 99.999% of it isn't rape. its consensual.

>>11708374
Its a joke retard

Think I'm done here

>>11708383
Your roastie friend only got in because her ass and curves had a high potential to be successfully marketed through a pair of lululemons while walking into morning chem 1 lecture.

>>11708371
>>11708373
>>11708376
Fugg man, I went to a shitty public school where the theoretically highest possible GPA (as far as I know but I didn't take any AP classes, just had a bunch of smart friends) was 5.0. I guess I was doomed from the start even if I wasn't retarded.

>>11708389
Supposedly they will "take into account" that your normie npc school didn't offer Aps but that's just something they say to soothe the cope of the masses.

>>11708383
>hurr durr I was only pretending to be retarded
you should be done, your contribution to this thread has been literal dogshit.
>come in disagreeing with me about a point I make
>"don't read 90% of my replies" and only talk up your friend
>backtrack and say you agree with my initial point
>"Well I guess we both failed at reading comprehension lulz"
Maybe you should ask your friend how to reply so that you don't make literal junior-high level mistakes

Larry Ellison
>billionaire tech founder
>"I'll keep re-marrying as long as Stanford keeps admitting tall blonds".
literally a quote. They like to let in hot pieces of ass. Its a thing.

>>11708389
colleges know that schools have different GPA systems. some don't go above 4.0, but students from here still get in. GPA isn't as important as GPA relative to maximum possible at your school

>>11708399
Cope. You could go to a local UC or CC or state school during the summers to take college-level physics and chem in sophomore year high school. Like I did.

>>11708402
>cope
???
people from bumfuck Wyoming still get into stanford without these possibilities. what point are you making? your admission is based on your success leveraged against your opportunities

>every one was a stanford undergrad at the time of marriage to larry.
He's only dating the current one tho.

Its not just him either. Steve Jobs met his wife at a Stanford MBA Q/A. His wife asked him a question and then came up for a followup and then he asked her out. She was a 1st year mba student.

>>11708410
They don't. A lot of people in bumfuck wyoming are ultra rich and own ranches/mines and shit. They are the ones who are getting in. Likely because their parents make sure they get the right scores and donate the right amount.

>>11708410
Bumfuck wyoming still has wyoming state or a cc.

>>11708413
and even people who don't do college classes get into stanford. I'm struggling to understand the point you're trying to make.
yes, you can do extra and take classes over the summer. people don't do this and still get in. there is no absolute GPA scale that these colleges use.

>>11708395
You're just upset that I dismissed you as a retard

Inb4 Kruger

Right enough of this pissing contest

>>11708418
>and even people who don't do college classes get into stanford. I'm struggling to understand the point you're trying to make.
even if your school doesn't offer Aps, they will judge you for it despite claiming not to. also you should and could take college-level classes while still in high school.
>yes, you can do extra and take classes over the summer. people don't do this and still get in. there is no absolute GPA scale that these colleges use.
if you don't do "extra" you have zero chance of getting in. there are 100,000 people doing extra and trying to get in.

>>11708419
I'm so curious what's going on in your brain. If you're this incapable of seeing how wrong you were all along I can't imagine how insufferable you are in real life.

>>11708418
This

So
>either do extra n be well and pray
>or be alumni legacy / big donor (40% of spots are earmarked at stanford and ivies for these people!!!!!!)
>or be a hot piece of ass with a decent high school gpa.
>or be an athlete at olympics caliber

They like a "diverse" class so they will deign to let in a few hot girls who aren't doing "Extra" and a few kids who were homeless and didn't get straight Fs.

>>11707934
You sound liek a bitter cunt

>>11708423
doing "extra" doesn't mean just classes. of course you have to do "extra" to get into an elite school. but there's more to it then your fucking GPA. look at that school shooting kid who got into harvard with terrible grades.

>>11708433
He only got in because he meme'd himself into being a 'national leader''

>>11708424
You need to get out of your head

I suggest you ingest LSD

You come off as being really really immature

>>11708433
Harvard is a little different because they want the future leaders of the country. So if you are likely to be a future politican or business leader and you demonstrate this somehow they let you in. Having an instragarm with 1 million followers is something "Extra".

>>11699925
nope didn't attend one.
I just went to the closest uni to my house
never even applied for any other uni
I don't understand the whole
>my uni's called
thing
I mean I just wanted a fucking job so I could pay bills, I hardly give a fuck about where I went.

Daily reminder that the schools themselves lie through their teeth about what matters in admissions and that they actively solicit app submissions to raise their denial stats.

>>11708438
npc

>>11708442

Also it makes a HUGE difference if you apply ED/EA vs. not.

You will get close attention to your app in the first round EA/ED but the massive npc-zerg-rush that is Jan.1 deadline submissions are a fuck all.

Harvard admits 50% of the class in the first round with Nov 1. deadlines. They get their decision on December 15th. The alumni/legacy make sure to apply that round too.

By the time you fucks send in your apps, there's basically no seats left even if your mom died of leukemia in your fifth birthday and you wrote a great essay about it lol.

>>11708447
only for single-choice EA. ED has a much higher chance though because they know you're committing but applying EA is useless as there's nothing forcing you to stay if you get accepted, unless they know you're only applying to them

>>11708437
Imagine being this retarded

The see schools want money

>>11708447
Also this

Its all a game
Transfers go through a different process too that's easier depending on the uni

>>11708455
Hogg will be running around giving talks to cnn for the rest of his life. he will probably make money already. he's a tool and a retarded faggot but he's already successful. i'm sure some liberal elites intervened on his behalf btw.

>>11708454
It honestly doesn't matter. Its the fact that a different and more attentive team effort is given to the 1st round apps. They fill the class, by the time its 2nd round its filling in the gaps.

>>11708458
No

He he's just popular enough

>>11708489
afaik he got rejected and then bullied harvard and got his supporters and their rich liberal parents to bully harvard and then he got in.

they also let in his classmate who was anti gun control and then rejected him after it came out he was posting on pol or something.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/18/733809263/harvard-rescinds-offer-to-parkland-survivor-after-discovery-of-racist-comments

>>11708512
based, all gunfags are the same

>>11704774
Donald Trump is famous for never drinking after what happened to his brother Fred.

>>11708613
Trump is smart and has good genes. His uncle John invented radiation therapy in medicine and also light-based disinfection of sewage waste.

>>11708519
The moral of the lesson is that the ivy leagues are run by the elite rulers of the country so if you want to be on their good side, adopt their politics -- at least superficially.

>>11706710
Wrong. Broadly, the more established an educational institution's reputation is the more it becomes an entry ticket into higher socioeconomic strata and the more those already in those strata push for their children to enter regardless of innate abilities. Good fucking luck winning a regatta if you're born to meth-heads in Detroit.

>>11707934
Trump and Clinton are both objectively intelligent people. To say otherwise is just denial and / or in group signaling.

>>11708253
okay reddit.

>>11708685
This.

>>11707648
it isn't that black and white sperglord.

>>11708682
>Good fucking luck winning a regatta if you're born to meth-heads in Detroit.
Actually you will have a very easy time getting into Harvard or Yale if you do well in high school and write an essay about being born to meth-heads in detroit. Its the normie npcs who have no chance. The "overcoming adversity" works.

>>11708696
That's why I said winning a regatta and not getting into Harvard or Yale. The people who are really fucked are children in low-income families whose parents went to college for stupid shit since they can't pull the "first in my family to go to college card" and couldn't afford extracurriculars, especially if they're asian or white.

>>11708375
dude that's creepy

>>11708685
Intelligence and drive are two different things, anon.

>>11708888
Not really. They are deeply intertwined. A stupid person with high drive ends up in jail for rape or robbing a liquor store.

You don't get to be President without being super smart. Even if you pretend to be stupid and eat mcdonalds all day to make the npcs think you're just like them.

>>11708375
I'd suck her cock if you know what i mean

>>11708767
Dumb roastie is sucking cock anyway. If she didn't want me to cum on her pics and post them here she wouldn't have made her account public.

>>11708913
No I don’t. Please elaborate.

How's this? https://features.thecrimson.com/2014/fifteen-hottest/

>>11705208
anything is possible if you lie

>>11701367
I remember in high-school in a year our math classes were streamed some kid in the lowest stream proudly proclaiming he'd rather be a cabbage than a nerd.

>>11708908
>You don't get to be President without being super smart
I don't think anyone ever accused Johnson of being an intelligent man.