/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11688340
because it's a meme

>>11688392

But it is a good book isn't it?

>>11688500
It is for people with extreme autism

>>11688615
How so? Is that the only reasons people call it a meme book?

>>11688626
A good portion of it is generally too complicated for most people as an introductory book which is why it's called a meme as it's something we recommend to new people as a filter

>>11688615

All mathematics is for people with extreme autism, fuck off

>>11688628
>as it's something we recommend to new people as a filter

lmao then it's basic mathematics but treated as a math PhD's level?

>>11688628
How is it too complicated? It's literally high school math.

>>11688392
It is NOT a meme

>>11688340
Because this board is full of retards trying to force their stupid jokes

>>11688628
sounds kinda. Would you recommend it to someone whos in his third year of engineering comfortable with mathematics but wants to revise.

>>11688702
Exactly

>>11688871
It's a good book for revision if you're already familiar with basic shit

>>11689714
what if you had a child who was only taught by female math instructors, would it be a good book for revising that?

>>11689719
Depends on age and if they have an adult who can help them with the problems

>too hard/slow for people who don't already know the concepts
>concepts are already known by everyone who is able to follow the explanations

it's a book for people who love wasting their time, there is literally no point on reading meme books like this one. it is designed for autistic mathbois to rejoice on "having a deep understanding on how adding 2 and 2 actually works", if you actually enjoy that go ahead and read it, but "revisiting" the fundamentals in this way is a huge waste of time compared to reading a book that actually teaches you something.

tl;dr: useless book, but math purists/time wasters may enjoy it.

>>11688340

This is a book for people who want to learn how to write proofs, not for learning basic math (although it can be also used for that).

Listen buddy,

See this?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMcpDl1Pr-viA25VUkHNmcUkWx9usPgyb

If Lang is a meme, why are still reading his books? why are people dedicating their time to do full reviews of the books he wrote many years ago? why do math and physics students across the world still benefit from the books Lang wrote?

Because LANG IS NOT A MEME

Now read your fucking book and stop making these garbage threads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbrmODFIkI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKA5T6bC64

Stop getting your information on Lang from the losers on this website and instead read it yourself or at least see what people who actually do maths and physics have to say about his books.

Pro tip: many of the losers here who say that he is a meme are probably frustrated retards that are trying to learn math from scratch and found his books to difficult for their stupid brains.

>>11690089
His other books not being memes doesn't mean this particular one isn't.

>>11688702
You overestimate the public school system

>>11688702
About to become an MD and haven't done any actual math in like 6 years. Tried to use this book and literally couldn't handle it. Am I retarded? What resources for basic math can I use?

>>11689983
You're right, i forgot almost all my high school math, i wanted to relearn the concepts again and APPLY them, not prove them. In the first chapter there were a lot of proofs, know any book that has a ton of applications with the basic of algebra, calculus, trig and geometry ?

>>11688340
It's the Loomis of /sci/ where the book is an adequate reference but incorrectly reccomended to beginners who will find little use for the things addressed. Let's take a look at the back cover synopsis shall we:
>As such, it can have multiple use: for a one-year course in the high schools during the third or fourth year (if possible the third, so that calculus can be taken during the fourth year); for complementary reference in earlier high school grades (elementary algebra and geometry are covered); for a one-semester course at the college level, to review or to get a firm foundation in the basic mathematics to go ahead in calculus, linear algebra, or other topics.
So already we have a problem, the book is not aimed towards type of people who are new to maths but to those who have already applied the concepts but want to go beyond just simple intuition. This is why you always check the material at hand and to whom its geared towards, don't believe the memes.

So what's the alternative, I started it last week, and it's not really easy for someone who forgot high school algebra and is trying to relearn, also lots of proofs, I just wanna learn problem solving

>>11690304
If you can't handle that then try pic related

this is how you do this, yeah?

>>11688340
>Serge Lang

>>11690194
>book is called Basic Mathematics
>it covers basic mathematics
>has lots of useful exercises to expand the mind of the math student
>somehow it is a meme because some faggot in a mongolian puppeteer forum says so

>>11691283
>namefag
>naming names
yeah a ruskie chink sounds like just the precise tight ass I wanna rigorous review of algebra from

>>11691375
You sound retarded

>>11691384
imagine being so insecure about your intelligence that you try to sound smart instead of being so smart you do everything you can to sound dumb

>>11691388
>run-on sentence

>>11691375

brainlet detected

>>11688628
>>11688615
>t. literal retards
I went through this book over the 10th grade summer after getting kicked out of school for a good part of the year so I could actually have an algebra 2 credit - it was easy enough to understand so as to get the premises of what he was saying down and understand how things worked properly. While it did take a bit to get through, I've no doubt now that, having a better understanding of proofs and how they work, I could get through this book fairly quickly. It increases your understanding of basic mathematical processes to the point where it's a lot harder to make simple mistakes, i.e not dividing where you shouldn't because you understand exactly how division works. It also greatly helps with doing proofs and understanding of math in general. People who say it's a meme are just brainlets who can't into math and need their hands to be held by a professor while learning.

>>11692870
God that paragraph was fucking abhorrent, I should have looked over it again before posting.

I'm at a complete loss for words at how un fucking believably retarded people are
and the retards think it's other people who are retarded. considering most people are retards, you get this fucking feedback loop of the retards claiming you're only retarded if you're not retarded, and you get this cacophony
the level of dissonance and projecting present on these boards is unfathomable. idk if this is part of the zoom, or if it's always been here and I'm becoming emotionally intelligent enough to see it

>>11692870
this block of text qualifies as being comprehensible. this quality of comprehensibility is both the maximum necessary and sufficient conditions for qualifying as good writing. it could've been reworded, but it doesn't matter the essence would remain unchanged, and the essence is the only thing that matters. anyone claiming they struggle to understand an idea presented textually because it's too grammatically or syntactically "erroneous" hasn't read enough to be an authority on the comprehensibility of a block of text, and is thus retarded

the level of faggotry these days is horrifying, but I know it's because the faggots are become aware they have no real means for continuing their species, and their aggression is proportional to their remaining time

>>11690788
>ton of applications with the basic of algebra, calculus, trig and geometry
You can't do shit in the "real world" with that basic math, apart from the shitty and useless word problems which I don't consider "application"

>>11695560
You can use basic math for lots of things, even just using it when coding to increase productivity at a company you work for, or buying certain materials for a project. Word problems and such help you with being able to recognize these sorts of things.

First time on this board. Im a brainlet when it comes to math, so Im downloading this book and I will learn learn this shit over and over until I learn this once for all.

>>11695892
If you're a brainlet when it comes to math this probably isn't the best book to learn the basics from. It's about proving the basic mathematical processes, not teaching them. If you have background in logic though, you might be able to make enough sense of it.

>>11695921
What do you recommend then? >>11691206 is a good option?

>>11695926
I've never read the For Dummies books, so I couldn't tell you about that recommendation. I learned Calculus through Professor Leonard on Youtube, but he also has Prealgebra, Intermediate Algebra and Precalculus courses on his channel. I would highly, highly, recommend learning through him, he is probably the best teacher I've listened to and explains things beautifully. Khan Academy is a good source also.
If I were you, I would watch Professor Leonard on Youtube to learn, then go to Khan Academy to do practice problems on whatever you learned from him, or find some online to do.
I would also recommend the book called "A Mind for Numbers" to learn better ways to understand math and actually learn it, and although the book is r*ddit cringe and unironically mentions r*ddit itself in it near the end, there is still some good stuff in there regarding focused vs. diffused problem solving, learning through spaced repetition, the power of visual/abstract thinking to memorize new concepts (which has actually greatly helped me with learning German), etc.

>>11695921
just bought the book and can't get past the first 10 pages, am i brainlet or this books is really hard

>>11696484
The book is hard to get through if you don't know anything about proofs; it's not meant to be teaching basic math, it's meant to be explaining it. If you want, buy a book on proofs and figure out how they work a bit, then go through the book, it will give you a good understanding of why math works the way it does and good practice for proofs. I wouldn't recommend going through it without knowledge of proofs though, and I definitely wouldn't recommend going through it to actually learn basic math.

>>11696511
damn, i fell for the basic mathematics meme, so what would you recommend for basic math, i have average iq, i want at least learn calculus in my life if i can go that far

>>11696529
The book's not a meme, it's just not for people actually wanting to learn from scratch. See my post here >>11695967 for how to actually learn prealgebra/algebra/precalc, although note that you need to learn geometry after algebra and Professor Leonard doesn't have a playlist on it. You can use Khan Academy by itself also, I just don't recommend it, it's better imo as a problem set to make sure you understand what you're learning and practice it.
>i have average iq, i want at least learn calculus in my life if i can go that far
IQ doesn't matter in learning most math, except maybe unless we're talking from the viewpoint of like sub 80 IQ or trying to work high level pure math problems. Leonard is especially good for learning calculus once you get there.

>>11696543
thanks a lot, do you think it's worth getting a tutor sometimes ?

>>11696608
I've never used a tutor, so I couldn't really say how helpful they are. I think, though, that most of this stuff you could learn on your own regardless of what level you're at, and I feel that way about most things. With the internet, there's so many resources out there to help you learn and see things from so many different perspectives, the only reason I see a reason for tutoring is if you have a time constraint or can't force yourself to do it on your own. Even if you have questions, there's always someone online somewhere to try and help you answer them, what's the point in spending money on a tutor?
Again, I'd recommend the book in that other post, "A Mind for Numbers." It talks quite a bit about how to understand and visualize new mathematical/scientific concepts, what to do when you're stuck on something, and more. Leonard also explains things very thoroughly, it's hard to imagine not being able to understand a concept with him teaching, especially when you can go back and look over it multiple times. He records in front of a class too, the videos are of his lectures, so generally people will ask questions about certain things that you might also be wondering. I really can't recommend him enough, he sparked a much greater interest in math for me than any of my irl teachers in the past.

>>11690304
unironically khan academy

>>11689983
This. Basically a book for pseuds or the people who post in IQ threads.

>>11688340
>Why do people say it's a meme?
Why don't you read it and find out?

>>11696529
Maybe grab a random precalc book and then something like Stewart for ez calculus, Apostol/Spivak for more rigor
Also linear algebra is pretty, I recommend it

>>11696484

Follow this:

>>11698672
Wrong pic.

>>11698731
Damn, I keep screwing up today.

>>11698741

Is it really better? it no longer says "foundational"

>>11694199
half of half of americans have an iq below 100 anon

>>11698672
>>11698731
>>11698741
Ignore him, do pic related

>>11698782
>two book proofs that overlap more than 60%

Every single time

>>11698854
they're meme charts for helpless brainlets and newfags, if you are actually intelligent enough to self teach math you would simply go on stackexchange or the wikia page and look for texts that seem like a reasonable starting point. Stupid people being led by the snout by sociopaths and midwits is not a novel phenomena, you ought to desensitize yourself to it at some point anon desu