/sci/ - Science & Math

Anon...don't do this, the fact that a papuan can fuck a San and produce viable grandchildren is kind of a clincher

>>11695885
I just don’t want to be related to a fucking nigger okay.

>>11695905
pug vs dalmation

>>11695871
Species is defined by the ability to create fertile offspring. But yes, human races are genetically distinct in lots of important ways.

arguably we're subspecies

Look into Haldane's rule on the y chromosome.

>>11695924
if I remember the consequences of it correctly the best way to observe genetic incompatibility is to look at the males of a highly mixed population and look for poor functionality.
one example would be american blacks
~20% euro admixture on average, while 1/3 of their y chromosomes are euro derived, american blacks seem to suffer with more problems than either source population.

>>11695871
Fuck off, /pol/
Every single scientist who still tries to uphold some outdated crap got their license revoked and I am thankful for that.

Science should have 0 tolerance to misinformation and close-minded belief is a burden to education

>>11695934
How to know you're speaking crap:
thinking Euro and Blacks are an ethnic group

Shut the fuck up, /pol/
Race does not exist in Genetics. We have ethnic groups and haplogroups. Africa have the highest amount of diverse genes because they rarely suffered bottlenecks like the plagues and the mongol hordes.

It's over a thousand distinct genetic lineages that you generalize as "lol blacks"

Fucking Retard

>>11695934
Kill yourself you fucking imbecile.

>>11695905
That's too bad dude.

>>11695969
>>11695962
look it up retards.

>>11695975
Shit, you are right, I found your sources at go.fuck/yourself

>>11695871
social science
>>11695905
well you are whether you like it or not
>>11695918
>Species is defined by the ability to create fertile offspring.
there isn't a definite definition of species
>>11695958
>Science should have 0 tolerance to misinformation and close-minded belief is a burden to education
so you?

>>11695977
american blacks are on average I think it was 18.5% european admixed it's been a while since I read up on this so I don't recall the papers. I'm aware that the source population for their slave ancestors was taken from more diverse tribal populations but only about 450,000 african slaves were taken to the USoA
you should be able to find the elevated disease stats for black americans

>>11695962
>race doesn't exist in genetics
It sure does in your skeletal system.

>>11695992
No shit, sherlock.
Every ethnic group has a diverse gene that leads to diverse bone and muscle structure

>>11695871
>Why is it so controversial to admit that you don’t know anything about taxonomy, biology, genetics, and are literally retarded? I’m being persecuted for this

>>11695991
Wow. That some compelling words and very informative truth that convinced me to change my views. Your facts speak to me.

>>11695975
> muh african diversity
>muh haplogroups

They are all the same mudhut dwellers without any cultural and civilizational accomplishments to individualize even as an ethnic group like the europeans. They are all still a bunch of tribes.

Yes race exists in genetics, because the each race has same genes that manifest themselves to give unique traits like black skin or slanted eye.

>>11696000
Genetic diversity is fact sorry.

>>11695998
Well my intent was never to convince anyone, this was just something I read up on a while ago and found interesting, feel free to read up further on the subject yourself.
obviously some of the disease rates will be due to normal outbreeding depression but the y chromosome incompatibility and fragility was interesting and partly explains why there there are no neanderthal y chromomes

Just call the mod

>>11695996
Molecular biologist here graduating in a month or so. Taxonomy isn't rigid and it can kind of be whatever we want it to be. We draw the line wherever we want. Being able to produce viable offspring is purely one way of looking at it. Lots of professors enjoy discovering new species out of nowhere because of this lack of rigidity.

>>11695958
>leftist inquisition enforced on scientists to fit the neo-marxist agenda

Congratulations we all live in the soviet union and middle ages at the same time. Even more ironic is that the marxists always accused the church of hindering the development of sciences because it didn`t fitted their religious propaganda and yet marxist are even today forbid any research that contradicts their propaganda.

>>11696000
>Yes race exists in genetics, because the each race has same genes that manifest themselves to give unique traits like black skin or slanted eye.
He doesn’t know.
can you faggots admit your retarded bullshit is entirely >>11695905 at least this guy is honest. Convert to a meme religion that says each race was created by god at the same time and he only likes your made up one and stop pretending it’s science

>>11696006
I know that but it’s like arguing a black lab is a different species to a yellow lab.

>>11695958
>scientist license
lol, looks like I've been illegally sciencing

>>11696011
Yes. I'm not OP anyway.
When in doubt assume it's the same species.
There is prestige in discovering a "new" species so it's usually bullshit.

>>11696012
Depends on your field
Could be just a certification but researchers do need license.

>write scientist persecuted on google
>immediately google completes the sentence with `` by religion/church``

And then there are dozens of articles from leftist trannies like the following:
>How Can We Curb the Spread of Scientific Racism? A new book examines the insidious effects of scientific investigations into race

>Mehler, who is Jewish, understandably found all this disturbing. He immediately saw parallels between the far-right network of intellectuals and the rapid, devastating way in which eugenics research had been used in Nazi Germany, terrifying him with the possibility that the brutal atrocities of the past could happen once more. It was impossible not to imagine that the ideological heart behind them was still beating. “I felt like I was desperately trying to prevent this from happening again,” he says.

>>11696024
Easy to belittle something you don't understand, innit?

>>11696024
every time

>>11696024
Come to us once you studied even the basics of biology.

Trannies who claim race is false are the same faggots who promote the distruction of nations by mass migration and racemixing. The faggots have an agenda.

>Why race science is on the rise again
>After the second world war, the belief that differences between so-called ‘races’ are genetic became taboo. Now, with the far right resurgent, it’s back

>I grew up in south-east London – in an Indian-Punjabi household – not far from where the black teenager Stephen Lawrence was killed by white racist thugs in 1993 while waiting for a bus. He was only five years older than I was, and his murder left a mark on my generation. The old British National Party bookshop was in the same town as my secondary school. Racism was the backdrop to my teenage years. But then, for a brief moment, things looked as if they might be changing. My son was born five years ago, when British society seemed to be embracing diversity and multiculturalism. Barack Obama was president of the US. I dreamed that my baby might grow up in a better world than mine, perhaps even a post-racial one.

>Things ceased to be normal. Far-right and anti-immigrant groups have once more become visible and powerful across Europe and the US. In Poland, nationalists march under the slogan “Pure Poland, white Poland”. In Italy, a rightwing leader rises to popularity on the promise to deport illegal immigrants and turn his back on refugees. White nationalists look to Russia under Vladimir Putin as a defender of “traditional” values.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/18/race-science-on-the-rise-angela-saini

>>11696024
Wow, cool, it doesn’t make your pseudoscientific skull measuring anything but speculation.
You’re clearly not in any field, you’re just a larper trying to get academics to tell you that you’re so smart and persecuted and that you can’t possibly be related to the black guy your sister is dating.

>>11696034
take your meds

>>11696034
Sorry, we only read stuff from wikipedia or some research pdfs

>>11696034
Taxonomy is arbitrary. Sorry. It doesn't exist.

>>11696033
>tranny tries to pass himself as scientist because he reads vice anti-white propaganda

>The hierarchical categorization of groups of people based on their biological traits — for example, eye color, skin color, or skull shape — infers evolutionary relationships between species, which scientists in Jena now call a form of racism.

Race doesn`t exist because that would be racist. The most pathetic argument in history.

What causes speciation?

>>11696007
>invalidating the identities and experiences of ring species
>thinks he knows better than a swed putting stuff in piles that look alike

>>11696044
Selection pressure for extended periods to produce enough diversity that it cannot reproduce anymore with the ones it has been separated from.

>In 1985, historian Barry Mehler had a dream. His research was taking him deep into the murky territory of academia’s extreme right wing. As he worked, he found his waking life beginning to soak into his subconscious, colouring his sleep. In his dream, his son, then two years old, was trapped in a runaway car hurtling down a hill. “The traffic is going in both directions, and I am in the middle of the road desperately waving my hands trying to stop the flow, in order to save the life of my son,” he tells me. “It’s a metaphor for how I felt.”

Basically those who deny races are litteraly leftist and jews with serious mental problems.

>>11696006
>invalidating the identities and experiences of ring species
>thinks he knows better than a swed putting stuff in piles that look alike

>>11696050
So we aren't yet different species but would have been eventually?

>>11696050
>>11696056
please read>>11696006

>>11696056
Yes. We can still be if we stick to people of our own tribe for 100k years or more. The aboriginals stayed away for 40000 years and that wasn't enough to turn them into another species.

>>11696054
>>11696043
>>11696034
>>11696024
so where’s your scientific proof? any studies? you work in the field? anything at all indicating actual evidence of your conjecture or of the persecution you imagine? or are you just going to post articles from the fucking guardian as proof that everyone is a tranny jew out to get you?

>>11696050
Question: Why is it that we were able to selectively breed wolves to turn into dogs but for that same amount of time, no new species of homo sapiens arrived?
I mean, the guys who crossed the Artic bridge and became Eskimos/native Americans as well as the ones who crossed the bridge into Australia sure got isolated for eons.

Was it because there was just not enough pressure?

>The President of Jena University, Walter Rosenthal, admits that while simply removing the word "race" from shared vocabulary will not prevent racism, "as academics we can help to ensure that racism is no longer able to invoke us as a justification."

Pic related is the walter rosenthal. Notice something?

>>11696060
that is not how this works

>>11696063

>>11696061
Well apart from the more obvious genetic differences we can see with naked eye, there are many differences that go deeper than skin.
Pic related genes that manifest in europeans much more than in africans.

>>11696072
We know, dude.
That's how diversity works but which European?
There are 50 ethnic groups in Europe. Africa has thousands.

It was never a black, white, and yellow.

>>11696064
Yeah because the selection pressures are the same for everyone these days because of interconnections. You'd need different environments for both sides.

>>11696055
Biologists are mostly swedes putting stuff in piles that look alike. Its hard to determine species when certain organisms reproduce asexually so you have to use other measures like genetic distance there.

>>11696062
Because for dogs it was artificial and dogs also have a very short maturation and generation interval compared to humans and they underwent many more generations than humans did. You'd have to interbreed humans for 10x longer than humans did for dogs I believe. Intelligence and civilized behavior also prevents the environment from affecting you as severely because you just deal with it instead of dying.
There was nobody to force manlet aboriginals to interbreed for thousands of years till they're as short as dwarves for example. But this happened to dogs.

>>11696035
>>11696038

You know how you can tell you tranny leftists.
Because in a discussion about race you claim races don`t exist because we are the same species.

When the discussion is about race, you invoke the lack of differences like those between species, when the point of discussion is not if we are different species but different races.

There are different races of dogs that are part of the same species. There are different races of men that are part of the same species. But leftist trannies deny races because the human races in their minds need to have differences between them like between species not between races. It`s an attempt to deceive.

>>11696072
to add to >>11696074 no one is actually denying that there are physiological differences between ethnic groups as a result of adaptation and sexual selection. We just don’t go “humans are different species and genetics (particularly the variance between ethnicities) determines your psychological traits. this means humans should only fuck immediate ethnic group or exterminate the subhumans.” because we have brains. It’s so painfully obvious that culture and upbringing is the determine factor in behavior beyond the most simple correlations that aren’t even fucking ethnically linked.

>>11696090
the entire thread started with
> Why is it so controversial to admit that humanity isn’t one species even though it’s painfully obvious that we aren’t? People of different races look differently, behave differently and hell even smell differently.
the whole thread has been about species. holy shit

>>11696081
Oh, right. Makes sense.

Though, I am pretty sure that the Himalayans would be a new species if they were given 500k more years of isolation. Their blood was proven to be so much thicker than any other ethnic groups as the extreme climate, severely depleted oxygen, and sheer isolation, really took a toll on them

So much more than the Eskimos ever suffered.

Iirc, the original people who crossed the Artic bridge got separated. First group went ahead and diversified all throughout the Americas. All Native Americans to the Incas can be traced to like just 24 mothers
The second group got isolated by a severe winter that prevented them from advancing for 10,000 years and thus became Eskimos.

Though I'm sure you know that already

>>11696081
>Yeah because the selection pressures are the same for everyone these days
it's not really though when comparing across different populations

>lashes out at asexuals, blames them for his bigotry

>>11696106
He was being sarcastic.

>>11696055
ring species are a myth, further analysis of supposed ring species broke down

>>11696074
Europeans cluster together because of genetic similarities like the africans cluster together because of genetic similarities, but the difference between any given european ethnic group and any given african group is much much bigger that the differences between ethnic groups of the same race. Pic related

>>11695905
>m-muh feelings
fuck off back to >>>/pol/

>>11696114
At least he’s honest.

>>11696111
where’s aborigines, papuans, ainu, and hawaiins on this? curious

>>11696111
If Europeans are the same why aren't they one country, one language, one culture, one food, one national dress etc.
You find more countries in the european peninsula than in any other area of the world. The indian peninsula has only 6 countries when it's the same size as the EU member states.

>>11696116
honestly retarded

>>11696120
>The same
Similar and cluster well enough to establish a group

>>11696111
What the fuck is this image saying?
That you are genetically linked to someone of the same color?

Jesus Christ!
All colors are correlated to how much sun your environment is having. Carribeans, Papuans, Central Africans, are all blacks but never genetically linked. So are Eskimos and Slavs

>>11695871
Because humanity is one species, there are no infertile hybrids. You mean subspecies, yes? In which case it's just controversial because people immediately think "subspecies" has the same impact as "breed" when talking about dogs, which it does not.

>>11696124
No

>>11696130
Yes

What's the problem in saying they're subspecies? Hominid species like the Homo neanderthalensis mixed and the offspring was fertile yet no one classifies them as being the same race as the homo sapiens sapiens, maybe they would if they didn't go extinct. White people are also going extinct and we'll be only seen in museums, exactly like the homo neanderthalensis, history repeats itself and no one learns anything.

>>11695871
Because the genetic difference between you and someone of another "race" isn't much bigger than that of you and someone of your "race".

>>11696156
pop sci

>>11696155
You can't drive a gene out to extinction without doing genocide.
It would always be there among the next generation, no matter what color they became and would reappear every once in a while depending on whether gene is dominant or recessive.

>>11696163
If you give all of them drugs that make them infertile or contaminate a vaccine then they don't reproduce.

>>11696156
because >>11696155 and subspecies is a skub taxonomic term, even more skub than species, and because ethnic groups are far more divergent (still not much) than racial ones, which are literal meme tier surface level differences. And because even genetic differences are tiny and amount to less lactic acid, sickle cells, the ability to digest milk, skin color and in the most extreme cases, lung capacity and the ability to carry more oxygen in the blood. it’s negligible.

>>11696163
no gene extinction is a real thing without what this guy is saying>>11696170

we are not even different subspecies.
look at dogs, some breeds are 10 times larger than other breeds but they are still the same subspecies. it's not just blind estimations or some guy pulling shit out of his ass, there are criterions to be fulfilled. don't like that? go to humanities

>>11695871
Fuck off /pol/

>>11696161
>no argument

>>11696182
if true, can you give a specific example of this

>>11696174
Yes. African Americans are called black even though they don't even have partial sickle cell anaemia. And there's nothing more black than resistance to malaria

>>11696206
>African Americans are called black even though they don't even have partial sickle cell anaemia.
wait, what are you talking about? sickle cell anaemia is a problem among african americans

>>11696177
read agenda 21 & 30

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18292342/

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/suppl/2008/02/21/319.5866.1100.DC1/Li_SOM.pdf

We are different. Important differences occur at the level of race (Blacks are obviously different to whites, you don't need the genes, you can infer this phenomenologically)
There is variation at lower level (ethnic variety)
There is variation at the individual level.
The existence of the second two does not discount the existence of the first.

>>11696309

>>11695871
Because whites are wired to kill everything different from them, so people fear admitting the differences would lead to genocide.

>>11696189
chihuahuas are 2kg on average. great danes are 50-90kg on average. both are same subspecies, Canis lupus familiaris

>>11696330
I can also find subspecies with very little variation in morphological traits so your point is mute. Hell you can find species with smaller differences than this. e.g the four species of Giraffe

>>11696324
Is that why SJWs are so vehement?

>>11696338
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0960-9822%2816%2930787-4

>>11696324
Exactly.

First off it is scientifically dishonest to claim muh niggers are a different species, they are not. Splitting people into "races" again will only serve to create division and is an overture to genocide. This is the only reason /pol/tards are forcing this so hard, they want apartheid and eventually genocide again.

>>11696330
Chianina 2Tonne
Miniature Jersey 80kg

>>11696341
https://www.cell.com/cms/10.1016/j.cub.2016.07.036/attachment/6fb151eb-1b03-4b6c-a97e-d68d10731352/mmc1.pdf

>>11696343
see>>11696309
>>11696317
>>11696338
>>11696341

>>11696343
Its nothing to do with genocide. Its recognising
i) spending billions on a population that could not independentantly support the standards of living of the western world is not a sensible investment
ii) Importing millions of people from different regions does not change the facts of their biology
iii) The variation is interesting and can be used to catalog the history of our species

>>11696343
Are you retarded?

>>11696338
that just proves my point. my point being that taxonomy ranking is not just looking at how something looks and saying it's an entirely different genus just because it looks different to us, there is a lot more that goes into it.

>>11696373
Yes. And thus we can show there are different "types" of people. You can call it race, you can call it "different poulations". These differences exist genetically and phenomenologically

>>11696379
>different poulations
yes as long as you mean a "social population" and not a "biology population"
>race
no. it's already widely used and no one is stopping you from using it, it's just not a scientific classification.
i think what you are looking for is anthropology, not biology.

>>11696407
Lets compare the scientific communities response to two genetic analyses. One on giraffes (Which all look very similar) - the genetic analysis found four SPECIES based on principle component analysis.
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0960-9822%2816%2930787-4
https://www.cell.com/cms/10.1016/j.cub.2016.07.036/attachment/6fb151eb-1b03-4b6c-a97e-d68d10731352/mmc1.pdf

Exactly the same method applied to humans gives approx six "variations" - because we cant say humans subspeciate that would scare people.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18292342/
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/suppl/2008/02/21/319.5866.1100.DC1/Li_SOM.pdf

Is this not scientific?

>>11695871
The whole idea of marxism is built on the idea that all people are fundamentally the same. That's why any demographic differences in society like blacks making less money and men dominating stem are seen as signs of discrimination. Not only because that is the only argument which would uphold the marxist doctrine, but also because it allows followers of the marxist doctrine to enforce policies which shape society in such a way which would support the assumptions of the marxist doctrine. The core idea here being that if everyone are fundamentally equal, a fair society would be one where everyone are represented porportionally to their overall demographic. Hence why marxists believe in a system of equality of oucome rather than its libertarian equivilent of equality of opportunity. But sadly for the marxists, we live in the real world, where people's genetics determine more than just their apparence.

We live in a world where marxists are infesting the very roots of our society, most of all the educational system, where children and young adults alike are indoctrinated into these beliefs. As a result, our society has, especially in recent years, grown a strong stigma for anything related to identity, especially race and sex. So much so that some even refuse to aknowledge their very existence. Because doing so would expose the congitive disonnance between marxist belief and reality. Much like Christianity stimatized and placed a taboo upon human sexuality; marxism stigmatized has placed a taboo upon human identity. Despite these things being integrate parts of us humans, it is something that's very dangerous to the integrity of these beliefs.

>>11696189
>Can you give a specific example of dog breeds being different sizes

based

>>11696422
the sexual taboo is actually interesting because it redirects the emotional drive into non sexual things.
Think of monks under a vow of celibacy redirecting themselves into work to achieve a sense of ecstasy.

>>11695871
It's a barrier to globalism and a sort of neo-communism. You need everyone to be equal, and if they aren't you need to cut everyone down to the same range. Hence umbilical clamping in the west, vaccines, etc. You can't really get rid of cognitive and psychological architecture, but you can smooth out gaps in IQ. Though it's more complex than that, organizationally. Read Brave New World to understand the meaning of equality and egalitarianism.

>>11696498
Basically, also, the other thing I want to say. At the core of it, it's about covering up atrocities of the past and protecting your place on top of a house of cards, ie a form of control, but also you can see a sort of utopian idealism in it. A number of the old religions have a beginning, and a "completion". See eg critical mass in Kabballah, tikkun olam, etc. The other cultures have a concept of the divine androgyne, and the purpose of man is repair the world and again unite all back into one, which is the original being that is both male and female.

However I can also see this being the work of an AI. Think like Asimov's 3 laws. All of this. Planned economies, globalism, covid-19, etc, could be an AI trying to protect us from ourselves. This AI may not be the only one either, there may be an AI which predates man.

Though this is /sci/, so interesting and intelligent conversation is off limits. Not sure why I even come here anymore.

Preemptively, anyone who provides a retarded response is clamped, as well. And should unclamp.

>>11696531
...just read the protocols of the learned elders of Zion

>>11696560
I have. That, over time, splinters off in a few different directions.

>>11696422
Capitalism mainly suits whites. Communism would suit the majority much better, it's primarily the whites who disrespect it because of their inherent selfishness. Other don't think they suffer under it, on the contrary.

>>11696422
Capitalism mainly suits whites. Communism would suit the majority much better, it's primarily the whites who disrespect it because of their inherent selfishness. Other don't think they suffer under it, on the contrary. Look at the strongholds of communism. East Asia in general, south India, Mexican Indians. How many right wing non whites do you see? They're few and far between.

>>11696602
Arguably whites evolved under harsh glacial conditions where they had to be both cooperative and also indendently minded.

>>11696422
Capitalism mainly suits whites. Communism would suit the majority much better, it's primarily the whites who disrespect it because of their inherent selfishness. Other don't think they suffer under it, on the contrary.

>>11695934
>american blacks seem to suffer with more problems than either source population.
I think you'll find American everything suffer more problems than their source populations, pol. Saying that whites are better is just bragging about not being enslaved, not living in apartheid and then a ghetto. It's not as simple or self flattering a problem as you think it is.

>>11696613
Whites are quite possibly the least cooperative of all. They only cooperate against a common enemy.

>>11696635
Whites are way more individualist. Even then theres a big split between western and easter populations, running along the Hajnal line

>>11696631
no there's evidence of higher cancer rates among black americans usually associated with european derived genes because unlike whites they lack the evolved adaptations to them.

>>11695871
Different human "races" can interbred and produce fertile offspring, thus they are the same species. Q.E.D.

>>11696635
the theory is supposed to be linked to religiousness which is a structure for group cohesion.

>>11695871
Nice pseudoscience.
I imagine the behavioral differences come from cultural differences, not skin color.

>>11696649
What theory? East Asians are rarely religious, and they are among the most left leaning nations.

>>11696422
>The whole idea of marxism is built on the idea that all people are fundamentally the same.

>>11696309
Who are those two deviating Central Asians approaching Africa?

>>11696644
see>>11696416
all the giraffe species can interbreed. There are no hard divisions on these classifications

>>11696735
kekimus maximus

>>11696644
Like Neanderthal-Denisovan - Sapiens?

Lmao

>>11696784
they interbred yet curiously none of their y chromosomes remain.

>>11696364
I) why spend money on poor and retarded whites then? This is just an argument for libertarianism, not racism
II) So?
III) Agreed

>>11695962
>Attributing the lack of genetic diversity to the great hordes

Jesus Christ, that's the dumbest post I have seen in a while, and ironically itself a very typical outlook of /pol/. Invasions are seldom the cause of major genetic shifts in historical times. How about the fact that:
>Africa is a huge continent with greater barriers than what is found in Eurasia
>Modern humans diversified in Africa way before the exodus that led to non-African populations
>Most Eurasian societies have modernized and assimilated distinct tribes into large nations and empires with ample opportunity for human flow

>>11696810
By spending money on poor/retarded whites I i) improve my quality of living directly (I dont have to deal with poor people in our city streets) ii) protect my genetic interests (they still share more of my genes than an african) iii) there are much fewer poor/retarded whites so its not that big of an economic investment for the benefits it brings.
vi) Too much wealth inequality in a country leads to large social tension which is a waste of both time and money.

>>11696643

Not him but black americans have higher cancer rates/ underlying conditions because they literally have a history of being treated like shit.

>centuries of offspring utilizing the lowest caste africans and raped slaves
>centuries of the lowest tier diets and health care
>centuries of non-stop high stress
>centuries of bottom of the barrel working conditions

If anyone expected a different result than what we are seeing now than they are crazy. I remember having arguments with anons on here last year about how black Americans still suffer from malnutrition and they balked at the idea just because they live in a first world country. Now during the Covid-19 pandemic people are seeing Black Americans suffering from higher mortality rates. And only now are people slowly realizing from recent research that Black Americans have higher rates of vitamin D deficiency. Vitamin D is what helps your immune system in fighting infections which explains why Covid-19 is doing more damage to them.

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20200429/Low-levels-of-vitamin-D-may-be-linked-to-severe-COVID-19.aspx

Also concerning cancer rates that itself can still be attributed to malnutrition since double burden can cause obesity in adulthood. Obesity is linked to multiple types of cancers that affect Black Americans at higher rates.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)32497-3/fulltext

Reminder this is just only looking at diet alone. High stress can also increase likelihood of cancer development.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/amp/articles/324540

>>11696650
Why do Jews act the way they do, though? Since they do inherit a plethora of neurological disorders, I assume those behavioral differences come from their inbreeding rather than culture.

>>11696923
inbreeding would maybe select for a sort of uniformity within the group and those that didn't comply with the group ideologies would be pushed out, those that remain are happy to accept the ideas of the talmud.
Religions are mechanisms of group selection.

>>11696895
>recent research that Black Americans have higher rates of vitamin D deficiency.
Isn't that literally the reason white skin evolved?

>>11696934
Why do Somalian Jews have the same IQ as their African counterparts?

>>11696945
personality =/= IQ

>>11696954
But the Jew bottleneck, inbreeding, recessive genes, neurological disorders and homogenity are correlated with their IQ as well as their personality traits. Why isn't the same effect seen in the Africans when it's seen in Arab Jews who score higher than their counterpart, therefore, it can be assumed that the changes can be quantified.

>>11696938

>Isn't that literally the reason white skin evolved?

It's theorized as so but it's still not finalized if that or sexual selection played a bigger role (reminder that east Asians also have lighter skin but current research isn't clear if the adaptation for it was tied to vitamin d synthesis). Also that doesn't mean you can afford to not consume additional vitamin D when able. Take note of what the first link highlights.

>Furthermore, European experience shows that COVID-19 was severe in Italy, Greece, and Spain, where vitamin D insufficiency rates are between 70 and 90%. At the same time, Scandinavian countries like Norway and Denmark have better population outcomes – with 15-30% vitamin D insufficiency rates.

According to this the vitamin d deficiency shouldn't hit southern Europe as hard as Black Americans yet it currently is.

>>11696988
Aren't there cultural differences, though? Like kissing on the cheeks and touching their faces? Aren't Southern countries also poor and have more immigrants?

>>11696964
I can't say since I've not looked into african jews.

>>11696996

Yes there are cultural differences but the kissing tradition would only properly explain the high infection rate not necessarily the high mortality rate. The mortality rate is what's being tied to vitamin d deficiency.

Also only Greece would count as "poor". Italy and Spain are still good economically. While I'm sure about Spain, native Italians are getting hit harder.

>>11695871
>b-but they told me races are a social construct..

>>11696988
nordic country diets incorporate a lot of oily fish don't they?
vitamin D synthesis basically ceases after a certain point in autumn due to the necessary light frequencies being filtered out by the atmosphere or something. and people spending more of their time out of the sun.

>>11697027

*While I'm NOT sure about Spain, native Italians are getting hit harder.

>>11696023
>but researchers do need license
anon, i..

>>11697032
Italy could be 5g related to some degree, or Lombardy's pollution levels.

>>11695918
>galapago's finches are different species
>they can create fertile offspring

>>11696034
>ho promote the distruction of nations by mass migration and racemixing.
The idea that you "promote" this is beyond fucking retarded. Its an emergent effect of the human condition that no one can escape, its been going on the entirety of human history. The agenda is wanting to understand more about ourselves as organisms.

Oh you linked a guardian article as your evidence, I see you are retarded.

>>11697031

>nordic country diets incorporate a lot of oily fish don't they?

Yup, I'm also positive this is why South Korea and Japan (can't say for sure about China, Russia or North Korea) haven't gotten affected as badly. Vitamin D supplementation via fish (and milk too) is probably the big factor behind the low mortality rates.

Reminder Neil degrass tyson (BLACK GUY) has higher iq than everyone in this thread HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
> UR ALL HATERS

>>11696531
>However I can also see this being the work of an AI. Think like Asimov's 3 laws. All of this. Planned economies, globalism, covid-19, etc, could be an AI trying to protect us from ourselves.
>hough this is /sci/, so interesting and intelligent conversation is off limits.
Wild speculation with 0 basis of evidence in an unrelated thread isnt intelligent you fucking idiot.

>>11696637
>source: ass

>>11697077
>I don't know anything, therefore dare is nuh ebbedance
>Everyone's knowledge is a subset of my own, if they knew as much as me, they would be me!
Bog standard, absolutely braindead. A whiny little bitch, tb, qh.

Unclamp.

>>11697099
https://hi.hofstede-insights.com/national-culture

>>11696422
>marxism is built on the idea that all people are fundamentally the same
I mean the critique of the gotha program directly addresses this accusation but whatever

>>11696127
LOL
Retard, Africans look different in more ways than just their skin color. Have you seen an albino African? Yeah, totally looks like a white man

>>11695992
Slight morphological differences are not enough to differentiate species. Do you suggest that these two animals belong to a different species just because their skulls are a little different? No you wouldn't, these are both members of the species T.rex. Humans are just more attuned to differences in human facial features than to other animals, Pareidolia is a symptom of this.

>>11697030
kind of weird how whites and Saharan Africans are put under one category. Claiming that blacks are one race would be inaccurate because of the amount of genetic diversity.

>>11697303
one skull seems smaller. perhaps an age or sex difference?

>>11697315
Although Sue (on the bottom) is definitely older, Both have reached full maturity (dinosaurs grew much like mammals do). Its almost impossible to sex a dinosaur, but most scientists think these differences are not related to gender, as many individuals exhibit a combination of features these two animals exhibit. Most paleontologists agree that the morphological differences are largely due to genetic diversity within T.rex.

I'm surprised this weak race baiting thread is still up. people who spew racist shit probably live in a isolated community or never go outside. you have to be extremely retarded to think all people are the same base on there color.

>>11697406
>people who spew racist shit probably live in a isolated community
Kinda ironic since the South is the most racist region in the United States and just so happens to have the most black people living there.

>>11697455
as I said isolated environments. I live in the south and blacks and white community are racial segregated. I communicated with a black when I gone to college and left my shithole.

holy shit how old are you kids

>>11695871
race =/= species
you dumb ass burger

>>11695918
The Florida maple (acer floridanum) is basically just an ecotype of the sugar maple (acer saccharum) that is genetically adapted to survive in the hot, humid conditions of the American Southeast. Yet, because of this distinction, the Florida maple is considered a different species from the sugar maple despite the fact that they are essentially the same tree.

>>11695871
>Why is it so controversial to admit that humanity isn’t one species even though it’s painfully obvious that we aren’t?
Because the base definition of species is something that can breed together and create a fertile offspring.
>People of different races look differently, behave differently and hell even smell differently.
Not that much as racist want to believe and the parts that are diverse are recognized and used as a strong point to create a better society as people have so many unique gifts, backgrounds, cultures and understandings of the world that can benefit mankind as a whole.

The better question:why do you care favour whether or not people are different? They are still fundamentally compatible with society, have more/less the same desires and all have the same characteristics that make them useful. Are you trying to purposely exclude people?

>>11697483
Damn sorry that you had the misfortune to interact with blacks in college.

>>11697538
Whites are completely different, you'd have to engage in a willing denial if you claim to know both, yet deny that.
>They are still fundamentally compatible with society,
Whites are completely incompatible with living in a civilized society because of their inability to see other people as anything but potential prey and violently attacking any force that would tey to prevent them from exploiting others.

>>11697538
Whites are completely different, you'd have to engage in willing denial if you claim to know both, yet deny that.
>They are still fundamentally compatible with society,
Whites are completely incompatible with living in a civilized society because of their inability to see other people as anything but potential prey and violently attacking any force that would try to prevent them from exploiting others.

>>11695962
>It's over a thousand distinct genetic lineages that you generalize as "lol blacks"

How many of the slaves that were ancestors to african americans were San or Pygmies or from the Horn of Africa etc?

>>11697665
many were from the collapsing west african songhai empire or the congo area

>>11697614
Not the guy you replied to.
When I was in collage the Black guys were honestly the best people I have ever seen, 10/10 great men. But they weren't African American they were Ethiopian so maybe it's different with the African American guys.

>>11697686
They're fortunately not exposed to degenerate nigger culture and usually come from strong families.

>>11697697
>exposed to degenerate nigger
It's because they are Orthodox Christians, Ethiopia was declared a Christian nation in 330AD. That is way before Europe. Ethiopians are based they have a cool history and a lot of traditions.
Although I am not a racist I hate black niggers, white niggers, Hispanic niggers etc. I believe that there are a lot of respectful black men and women but they are overshadowed by the niggers, every community has the respectful guys and niggers but from what I have seen the African American community has a lot more niggers than other communities.

>>11697728
I'll agree Ethiopians are pretty cool they're fucking over egypt with their dam though.

>>11697728
>Ethiopia was declared a Christian nation in 330AD. That is way before Europe.
??

>>11695918
Now what?

>>11697748

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Ethiopia

>Although Christianity existed long before the rule of King Ezana the Great of the Kingdom of Axum, the religion took a strong foothold when it was declared a state religion in 330 AD

>>11697756
There’s also grizzly-polar bear hybrids that exists in the wild and they’re fully fertile. Yet scientists conveniently classify them as separate species.

>>11697740
For Ethiopia it's a life or death situation, the dam will supply Electricity to a lot of people and will make Ethiopia more advanced and help economic growth a lot. The dam made employment for many Ethiopian engineers(they actually have a lot of them for a low IQ nation) and workers etc. I think that a deal is in reach if they will think rationality and not fuck this over with Nationalistic emotions.
I hope that Ethiopia will change for the better, once a big and rich kingdom it's now a shithole but it's developing very fast and I am positive that in 20 or 30 years Ethiopia will look completely different from what it looks now.
I know it's stretching but if you want a nice paper on development in Ethiopia this is a good one

http://hdr.undp.org/sites/all/themes/hdr_theme/country-notes/ETH.pdf

Because the term species is difficult to pin down into a singular definition. There are a lot of different concepts of species and humans are not different species under many of them, only a few would we classify different species under.

However the term species is also very politically charged as it was used as a justification for human rights abuse. So any attempts to reapply it in our current contexts would evoke those prior associations and, in a manner of speaking, poison the well for any conversation someone tries to have on it.
Case in point, this thread.

That's why it is called race, and we don't say that birds have races. Because race is a distinctly human concept.

>>11696161
If you read the actual literature on population genetics you will find they are right that in group variation is larger then between group variation. By calling that popsci you expose yourself as having only consumed popsci.

>>11697748
Oh sorry I haven't read this right, I thought you posted Ethiopia was a declared a Christian nation in 313AD my bad. This is true I think I didn't type it right. I meant that while Ethiopia was Christian Europe was fighting between Pagan and Christian nations and not all of Europe was Christian.

>>11697780
Are they suffering from the china disease with massive debt trap slavery?

>the world has to be fair everyone is equal!!!
>we must also hire people based on diversity because we are not equal!!
Every time. Life ain't fair. This is just putting icing on a pile of shit.

If you want to make things fair between all races you need to have equality in the actual areas that are unequal. Which the only 3 things that are actually "privileges" are IQ, physical looks/ability, and inherited money. Those cause the biggest disparities and inequalities.

So we don't just diversity hire blacks instead we diversity hire "low iq" individuals - which will include mostly minorities by race. For business startups and college we accept more poor students and keep out rich kids (again letting in more minorities). Finally as for looks/abilities - upper management needs to have ugly people as a requirement. Also, pro sports needs to allow people born with physical defects. It's absolutely racist to not let people in based on physical abilities.

>>11695871

This is the actual reason:
Hello my name is jew for the longest extent of time I have been a parasitic malicious tick on the ass of my fellow middle eastern humans and so to cope with this worthless existence I see myself as a master race, but my middle eastern human cousins refuse to accept my insane theories so I kept on pissing them off until they ejected me out. Then I found a mysterious land called Europe full of humans who would tolerate my madness, but they were even worse than my middle eastern brethren because they could develop very fast. Nothing makes me angrier than the idea me the jew am a truely worthless parasitic vermin a worthless tick on the ass on this world. Those damn european goyim I hate them so much for disproving my insanity there must be some way to get rid of them without us having to fight them because w...we would lose. Hmmm whats this? Dark brown goyim who literally are what we view the goyim as in the Talmud and when they mix with humans they create light brown goyim that behave exactly like them? Perfect this is exactly what we need we will teach the european goyim that these dark brown monsters are their equals so their women shall lie with them until we fill their nations with them rendering those disgusting european goyim gone for good. Why stop there? All gentiles should be stupid violent animals like the african goyim so our next target will be those disgusting slanted eye goyim who dare defy our rule to this very day. Once we are through with them we will negrorize the Hispanic goyim, and finally finish by making the women of our middle eastern cousins lie with these beast so a true talmudic world becomes a reality. A world where we the jew are the only humans and everything else is a dumb violent stupid negro beast a goy who serves us for eternity MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>11697987
t. autism

>>11697992
If jews never existed , the word racism would never exist. Keep seething you evil piece of shit.

>>11697998
All beta males should transition.
Beta males aren't actually men.
Become a tranny now you sissy

>>11698036
>advocating for white male castration
Good good show your true behavior

>>11698039
>whites are beta
pottery

>>11697303

see >>11696416
>>11696317
>>11696309
There are clear genetic differences in different human populations. There are enough high level phenomenological differences too - height, muscle mass, average weight, intelligence, disease rates...

>>11697783
"more variation within than between" ok, but that doesn't mean that there isn't important variance at the level of race.

>>11698044
You use veiled insults kike, theres no way you are talking about your bioweapons when you are saying beta males and transition.

>>11695958
>Fuck off, /pol/
>Every single scientist who still tries to uphold some outdated crap got their license revoked and I am thankful for that.
>Science should have 0 tolerance to misinformation and close-minded belief is a burden to education

>>11695958
>misinformation and close-minded belief
the irony is strong with this one

>>11698046
Was pointing out that calling the most up to date literature in population genetics popsci is brainlet tier.

But if you want to talk about important variance at a "race" level, the current data doesn't have a lot of good direct variances. You can talk about some genetic diseases and some traits such as melanin levels or eye colour. But in large GWAS the ability to parse by race relies almost exclusively on neutral loci with no known phenotypic expression. That also doesn't do race so much as it does regional population structures.

>>11698047
autism poster has been upgraded to schizo poster

>>11697955
you're forgetting immune function
it's unfair that people have better disease resistance than I do

>>11697955
Fair? Oh no you have been fooled, race is fair when the negative facts about africans are censored, but race becomes unfair when genetic facts about africans that imply supremacy over non africans are seen.

>Blacks are good at sport
>YES

>Blacks are dumb impulsive savages due to their poor frontal lobe
>RACIST RACIST NAZI EVIL DISGUSTING NOT NOT TRUE NOT TRUE

>We are all equal race is just a social construct
>THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH BLACKS OUTNUMBERING WHITE PEOPLE YOU RACIST!

>>11698071
Theres lots of good data on between race differences.

>>11697780
I for one would love to see Ethiopia develop better. Teach them to engineer better weaponry, and hopefully Africa's more metropolitan areas, like South Africa, is populated by competent people who know how to pick up their garbage and keep their land clean.

>>11697634
Do you happen to be someone who says "as a white person" on social media?

>>11698071
i didn't call anything popsci, you're projecting.

>>11695871
Species do not exist objectively.

>>11698141
Its almost as if they're just useful categories we invented.

>>11697634
>because of their inability to see other people as anything but potential prey and violently attacking any force that would tey to prevent them from exploiting others.
You just described african americans

>>11698148
Riddle me this....

>>11698082
But we already make this equal with vaccines

>science
>observe x doing/having y thing
>draw conclusions on it
>this is okay in all cases
Except
>observe niggers commit more crimes and have lower iq's
NOOO YOU CAN'T DRAW CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT

>>11697175
>research methodology: pulling shit out of ass and giving it cool names

>>11696416
your picture literally proves you wrong. there is continuation between these groups unlike giraffes that are completely separated.
if the study tested more groups of people (more specifically chadic and the ones between subsaharan africa and north africa) this continuation would be even more prominent.
and like i said there are several factors that go into deciding taxonomic ranks, some species are more genetically diverse than others. for subspecies one of the most important factors is the ability to interbreed without fitness penalty.

The only people obsessed with calling different races subspecies are racists

>>11698650
Yea, aka jews

>>11698650
Conversely, the only people obsessed with calling different races the same are trannies. Both are cucks, though

>>11697987
"I have no idea where anti-semitism actually comes from and have never read a history book."

>>11697987
Jews want all niggers to die as much as you do, anon

>>11698674
Nah I think he's read a few.
Napoleon Emancipated the jews but it didn't work out well for him

>>11696011
It’s not though, because black and yellow labs didn’t diverge ~50,000 years ago. Africans have been under different selection pressures than Europeans, evolution is real, etc

>>11698723
Dogs sexually matures after just one year
A human produces a healthy child at age 20.
We diverged from Africans for just 2500 generations

For comparison: it took as much as 30,000 generations of selective breeding to create dogs. And that's selective breeding
The greatest contributing factor to creating a new species is not the time and isolation but the environmental pressure which forces any unbenefitial trait to die off fast. And the fact that we are capable of technology has prevented the death of unfavorable ones and thus led to preservation of an unchanged genetic code.

>>11698755
there's also the contribution from multiparous birth

>>11696344
>the Miniature Jersey was selectively breed from normal cattle in just 150 years
woah.
if we did that to a group of 10000 humans can we create 10' giants and 1' dwarfs

>>11698139
And you have poor reading comprehension, read the posts I was responding to.

>>11698098
Can you show me the studies?

>>11698790
ah It seems I misremembered the Mini Jersey figures, probably closer to 300kg
google says the Indian Vechur breed is the smallest at 90cm and 120Kg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vechur_Cattle
if you want an actual rigourous study then look up the Trangie Agricultural Research Centre beef research project that was started in 1974 to investigate growth rates they split cows into three groups for low, control and high growth rates then selected the lines heavily for 20 years.
http://afs.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/australianlowline

>>11696422
>when you know absolutely nothing about marxism nor science
delete this abhorrent post, negro

>>11698864
http://www.aaabg.org/livestocklibrary/1991/ab91034.pdf

>>11698790
Cows need just 7-9 months to reach full maturity
It took 200 years to create it equivalent to some 200+ selective generations

Humans need 20 years to breed a healthy kid. 200 generations of humans is equivalent to some 4000 years of selective breeding

>>11698874
>Cows need just 7-9 months to reach full maturity
stop talking out of your arse
although some can cycle early it is dangerous to do so because of dystocia risks
most breeds are at least at a year old
they aren't physically fully matured until 3-4 years old

>>11698888
I live in a farm though you're right.
Gestation included, it would take 2 years before a cow produces a healthy offspring. That's still 100+ generations though

>>11698895
Seep on the other hand.

>>11698895
What a coincidence so do I, what type of farm?

>>11698909
Rice field, cow ranch, and fishing villages.

>>11698913
Former dairy farm, now we buy in beef calves.

>>11695905
You came out of a prehistoric "niggers" ball sack so you might well just kill yourself if that's the case.

>>11698872
in just 15 years they achieved a 15% divergence from the control by both the low and high. and a 30% divergence between the two lines
Evolution can be very fast.

>>11699064
No shit. It's selective breeding, of course it would be fast. The only thing that could be faster is genetic engineering

>>11698148
What are you talking about? Whites are the only race where regular men can fight. They grew up fighting each other.
>>11698125
Are you retarded?

>>11699112
>Whites are the only race where regular men can fight. They grew up fighting each other.
that's ridiculous.

>>11699117
It's an exaggeration, but not ridiculous.

>>11699131
could you elaborate on it?

>>11695918
No, that's an archaic 19th-century definition designed to deal with the obvious question: "what about mules?"

>>11699167
It seems whites get united by a common enemy. That makes it impossible to form a stable society. You need an enemy to hold the society together. But once one side wins, it fragments again. Which is why multiple parties are seen as such a necessity, it can unite the supporters of one party against the other parties. Otherwise they imagine it would have to be the people against the ruling party, but in reality that is never so; leaders need widespread support, nobody would listen to them otherwise.
This is why they have killed so many popular leaders. Whites are still wired as the vikings, who exploited others, so they think that those who prevent people from exploiting others are opressive tyrants, not realizing those 'tyrants' are quite popular (or even are repeatedly elected to office) and those who cry about opression are seen as criminals and bandits by the majority.

>>11699263
anon...I think you might have some good points but your viking thing is way off

>>11699167#
It seems whites get united by a common enemy. That makes it impossible to form a stable society. You need an enemy to hold the society together. But once one side wins, it fragments again. Which is why multiple parties are seen as such a necessity, it can unite the supporters of one party against the other parties. Otherwise they imagine it would have to be the people against the ruling party, but in reality that is never so; leaders need widespread support, nobody would listen to them otherwise.
This is why they have killed or otherwise removed so many popular leaders. Whites are still wired as the vikings, who exploited others, so they think that those who prevent people from exploiting others are opressive tyrants, not realizing those 'tyrants' are quite popular (or even are repeatedly elected to office) and those who cry about opression are seen as criminals and bandits by the majority.

>>11697046
Do they tho?

>>11699280
It does seem to explain the twisted morality of white people. It's the warrior raider mentality.

>>11699301
I can see it among the scot/irish but it just doesn't quite click for the englsh
perhaps there was some of the the development that ocured to conquer the americas?
they do apparently have higher almost over active empathy than other racial clusters.
and some reports suggest there is higher trait specialisation between the sexes than other groups

>>11699282
I'm a mutt and have thought about this quite a bit recently. It seems to me that whites are extremely susceptible, and almost demand, vertical organization. This is why they always end up within layered or stratified, specialized, highly organized societies. They are hardwired to assume that so long as they're doing their little job, in their little box, on their own layer, they need not worry about anything else. As soon as the criteria for them to enter this state of deferred responsibility and complacency is met, and it's "good enough", they dig in and are very difficult to bring out of this rest state. They like to be a cog in the machine. When they get to be numerous enough to be urbanites, this "job" mentality, and deference, reaches a peak/ They will call the police for those who's job it is in society to do morality stuff, to come and take care of anything for them. They lazily submit to the rule of law no matter how perverse, out of fear or believing it for the greater good. At their core, counterintuitively, whites readily take up a thinly veiled authoritarian collectivist functionality. And it's a function of density, all you have to do is pack them together and organize them within a supporting structure, and give them food, and they submit. We can see however with the other races, this doesn't work. They become more violent with population density, whereas whites become net less.

This is why more lateral organizers (Native Americans, Jews, probably some northern Africans, etc) who are sufficiently inclined and smart enough resort to divide and conquer, pit them against each other, and so forth to remove the king, aristocracy, or whatever it may be. This trait makes them easy to hijack. They lack resilience and individual units have poor foresight and detection of subversive infiltrators. It cannot be denied how easily whites are propagandized and put to sleep, so long as a source has an official sounding name.

>>11699311
Whites have no empathy. Not even enough to understand that when you harm someone, they will hate you.

>>11699328
I wonder how much this is influenced by marriage structure?

>>11699347
that doesn't quite square with all the pets or inexplicable tendency to pity their enemies.

something is definitely up with their empathy though, it seems all over the place. maybe it's an overattachment?
I wonder how this splits between the three broad european ancestry groups?
Western hunter gatherer, neolithic middle eastern farmer, and yamnaya?

>>11699365
>inexplicable tendency to pity their enemies
The pity is sarcastic.

>>11699368
If they're really going after their enemies they're merciless, but why do they keep helping people? why do they go against their own group interest so readily?

>>11699347
Oh please. Jews have no empathy. White blood is the source of empathy.

>>11699377
How much are people classifying whites based on jews because they look similar?

>>11699377
Jews have no empathy because they are circumcised and treated coldly by their parents. The first thing to disappear with PTSD and traumatic conditioning is empathy. Add that on top of the Jew's bias towards an indomitable and self righteous spirit, and the source of their behavior is obvious. Come now, let us make a covenant, you and I. The covenant will sustain the Jewish people.

>>11699383
And I should add on, Goyim throughout the ages have recognized that the covenant is the source of Jewish behavior and the core that holds them together. Rome made circumcision punishable by death. Greece grew sick of their activities as well. Spain, obviously. Each time around some Jews used the opportunity to escape from their insular culture.

>>11699365
It seems Yamnaya genocided Europe the same way they later genocided other continents, and ve the origin of the violent tendencies.
They have no empathy. It's all over the place, because they don't understand what it is. They just observe and learn how to act empathic.

It seems Yamnaya genocided Europe the same way they later genocided other continents, and likely the origin of the violent tendencies.
They have no empathy. It's all over the place, because they don't understand what it is. They just observe and learn how to act empathic.

>>11699396
It's not like genocidal annhilation is exclusive to whites, look at the bloodthirsty bantu expansion or the Comanchee

>>11699415
True. As I said it's more like the warrior raider mentality. Applied to a settled lifestyle. Which is not very good.

>>11699415
You can see the difference betwwen the spanish, who conquered, and the british, who 'colonized'.

Is there evidence for bantus commiting genocide?

>>11699433
I assume you're basing this off observing american whites?
>>11699436
yeah they pretty much wiped out every tribe in their way as they expanded out of the congo downwards

>>11699388
You forgot that Africa kicked out a shit ton of Jews over the span of its existence. Especially in Egypt.

>>11698283
>abritrary x with a mishmash of attributes

>>11695871
It doesn't matter when the answer is as you blinded by prejudices.

There's two human species, Homo Guineus, who remained in africa, and Homo Sapiens who migrated to eurasia. Homo Sapiens has four subspecies, I'll let you name them.

>>11700958
Why would you use such an ancient chart?

>>11700972
Only one I found that shows genetic distances on a tree.

>>11698036
I suppose both you jews and us whites have done plenty of treacherous actions. However, what makes us different it that we make no attempt to hide our ways or parasitically subvert others, we just charge in and do the conquering ourselves.

>>11695958
Massive pussy

>>11699328
>Whites are easily propagandized
>Niggers don't even look at sources, they just chimp out because they see another nigger chimping out
I think one is better than the other. Also, the most successful societies period in the animal kingdom have a similar structure to white society. Everyone has a part they play for the greater good. Look at ant colonies. They are successful due to their extremely strict cast system and they tend to be extremely successful insects.

Your body itself works the same way and when one part steps out of line because it's defective and starts acting like a nigger stealing all the resources and providing nothing in return we call that cancer. So, in conclusion minorities are actually cancer.

>>11701069
That is how all human societies work. Except the white one, (and a few rare others) which is each for his own, and you are evil to propose otherwise.

>>11701069
Ants don't usually have caste, btw. Termites do.

>>11701092
What are soldier ants and worker ants?

>>11701069
>Your body itself works the same way
Yes, I've used this analogy myself. The same logic is present at all levels of organization. the issue with whites are they fail to detect and modulate, or eliminate, the cancer. They're blind. I'm living within, and as part of, the greater body. I can see the problems, they cannot.

>>11701128
they didn't in the past but they were arguably much more strongly bonded by religion, without which they struggle to unify.

>>11701150
I think we can consider looser marriage customs to be another factor more consanguineous marriage increases the natural group affiliation.

>>11695871
The same post with the same image again.
Stop spamming, we're not going to change definitions because of your feelings.

>>11701110
Separate species. Army ants don't build nests.

>>11695918
Where Neanderthals the same species?

>>11697311
>kind of weird how whites and Saharan Africans are put under one category

not weird at all, as they were commonly included among Caucasian race by all the "scientific racists" of the past

>>11701239
I didn't say anything about Army ants

>>11701263
What did you mean then? All the ants in a colony are the same. Except the kings/queens, of course

>>11701286
Have you ever actually studied ant colonies?

>>11701295
Did you? The ants are the same.

>>11701286
OK, I looked it up and it seems some species do, but it isn't common. It also seems that existing ants can take over its function when one caste is removed.

>>11695871
Its fun to think about but I don't believe that we evolved from different types of apes. The differences you see in that picture are just adaptations to the environment
t.muslim
>inb4

>>11701718
>The differences you see in that picture are just adaptations to the environment
Isn’t that how speciation occurs?

>>11701223
Uh anon, this is the same thread.

>>11698118
Lol

>>11698118
>Ethiopia
>average IQ = 61
You might be able to gain 10IQ with better nutrition, education, and healthcare. but that's still painting a very bleak potential.

>>11695871
You are the same as a nigger. Get over it, midwit /pol/cel.

>>11701786
Yeah, at best it'll be a little worse than india. Unless someone else runs the country for them

>>11701810
I don't know quite why but I really enjoyed George Mcdonald Fraser's Flashman books
painted a dark picture of how ruthless the chinese court was

>>11701810
Aren't China "building" them a lot of infrastructure

>>11701820
They're a fun read.

>>11701844
I recall reading his chinese one where flashman observes the torture chambers then a few chapters later he's strapped down to something and some harem vixen wanders in and "rapes" him

>>11701827
Yeah, but i think they'll just ethnically displace them if they get the chance. Like they're doing to the kantanese in Hong Kong. Its a long term investment in their eyes.

>>11701861
typical chinese debt trap liker djbouti, give loan because they bribed a bunch of officials that they needed infrastructure, use chinese labour and materials to make it, while there wholesale poach and smuggle out ivory and rare wild life, eventually when the country realises it can't afford the debt payments strong arm them into giving them mines and half your farmland.

>>11701883
I hope china gets a jolly good "seeing to" after this virus subsides.

>>11701895
I dunno man look at the state of the big players europe and america, years of policies designed to flood them with violent 3rd worlders and bankrupt them might limit their ability to move decisively. Yuri Bezmenov's words haunt us.

>>11701915
Maybe. But I'm hopeful things will change.

>>11701861
Literally impossible. The Chinese population in Africa is tiny as fuck and they all leave after their work term is up.

>>11701942
>nothing can ever change TM
I'm talking long term buddy, not worker contract length.

>>11701883
China can’t really do debt traps because it needs to get in good graces lol. Holy shot do people know nothing about anything about Chinese investments in Africa. They aren’t even the highest.

>>11701944
There is legit no reason to even come to Africa since they cannot flex a middle man niche. Africans go to China to get stuff then bring it back instead of getting a Chinese guy to do it.

>>11701942
Look at Southern Africa, China has been attempting to subvert them since at least the 70s when they and the other communists of the UN leant on Rhodesia
breadbasket to basket case

>>11701955
Indian in Africa got that niche in east Africa because Britain focused on shitting and raping Africans while Indians were mostly left alone.

>>11701953
I'm thinking of that Italian port, that sri lankan port, vanuatu harbour, pakistan, djbouti airbase and countless others

>>11701959
You are leaving out the fact that many revels in Africa would pick up and finders to get funding for training and weapons. People hustled for funding and if saying you are pro-x got you money then you said it.

Also Rhodesia had a protests and agitation against the minority rule government

>>11701977
the rhodesians knew minority rule couldn't last but wanted to avoid a belgian congo chaos outcome, their attempt to manage the trasition by integrating locals into the management structure and forming sustainable alliances with the tribes was deeply harmed by communist manouverings and that slime bag Kissinger

>>11701968
>djbouti airbase
Due to Djibouti potion in the Red Seas that nation has MULTIPLE ports and bases. It has Camp Lemmonier (American) that used to be French) a Chinese naval base, a French airbase, an Italian Support Base and a Japanese base.

>Sri Lanka didn't give up that port due to Chian. It gave China a 99 year LEASE because Sri Lanka had DEBTS to other countries and organizations. Compared to the countless leases in Africa from the colonial era that they have to wait 100+ years and can't et any money from it and you see the difference.

>Italian port
They (the Chinese) don't even have full ownership of it. The EU has pushed for some countries (Greece one example) in the EU to sell off stakes in bourbons to foreign entities to make money so don't be shocked if Turkish or Chinese companies buy it up. Hell several of the ports was declining a lot within recent years.

>>11701989
>their attempt to manage the trasition by integrating locals into the management structure and forming sustainable alliances with the tribes was deeply harmed by communist manouverings and that slime bag Kissinger

Completely incorrect. Rhodesian laws were explicitly designed to prevent Africans from ever being aprt of the ruling structure, frequent antagonism of Africans by workplaces and the government, lackluster education, voting laws that basically made and Africa vote straight up be innately worth less then a White one on top of the hseer ecnomic dispairty between the two groups ON TOP of disricmantory laws such as Afrcans and Euroepans being paid competley different wages for the SAME TASK.

Being a white farm worker made you like 10x the salary an African one would get. Rhodesia wanted to delay things as much as possible so they could further entrench themselves even further as the dominant position.

>>11696024
You're so emotional you should consider sex reassignment surgery.

>>11702016
were they wrong to do anything given the mess Zim became?

>>11702035
Maybe if they didn't shit on every single peaceful protest and pissed everyone off maybe Mugabe wouldn't have made it in. Hell the reason Zimbabwe fell was because it was in the 2nd Congo War but even though the side Zimbabwe supported won the guy in charge of said side was an idiot it was a total pyrrhic victory alongside the drop of British funding for willing seller willing buyer and Mugabe's lack of control over the youth wing of his party messed things up.

Also Cong became mess because it was getting destabilized by foreign entities and Lumumba got killed.

>>11702035
It became such a shitshow precisely because whitey did everything wrong. If you've kept a population as second class citizens at best, indentured servants at worst, denying them even education in many cases you can bet that collective anger will explode in ugly ways no matter how much you try to make amends at the very end while claiming the ruling minority and the practically destitute masses are starting over on an level playing field.

>>11701732
Human groups haven't been isolated nowhere near enough for any significant adaptation or variation to occur. We're abnormally close to each other genetically no matter where you live, and you can thank our repeated bottlenecks for that.

>>11702062
>significant adaptation
sea gypsies

>>11702067
Desert Chinese.

>>11702067
Sorry but no. Those are minimal adaptations for a specific self-selected purpose instead of true natural selection based around the environment killing you and your kids if you can't do something. A better example would be the Andean and Tibetan peoples' adaptations to thinner air. The bottom line is any human population could get those if pressed to live that lifestyle and the sea gypsies and the groups that developed them can live just fine in land-based human societies.

>>11702050
>11702050
The wage ratio between whites and blacks was absurd. In agriculture where 40% of Africans work and 35% of their salary ways payment in kind, the ratio was 1:22.6 in 1971.

>>11702082
Hmm so an adapt or die scenario?
pygmies are under extreme rainforest disease pressure? there was some genetic link between short height and resistance to bacterial infection they linked it to similar genes in anoither group
from the islands off India.

>>11697748
that's misleading
constantine's was a tolerance edict
it was under theodosius, in 380 that christianism became rome state religion

>>11702083
hang on that large a ratio might mask other differences if the nature of the employed work is greatly different given the wide IQ gap

>>11697046
In 9th grade biology, I remember learning how these birds won't breed because they have different mating calls, etc.
So by normalizing racial mixing, we may have "unified" the "species".
Of course, these are just technicalities, it is pretty clear that there are large differences in humans, even if we are the same species.

>>11697055
sad that even high iq people will pander to popsci

>>11697052
>emergent effect of the human condition that no one can escape
I just want to learn, can you explain this statement

>>11696034
I'm a curry and I feel bad for you guys - I'll try my best to point out people's hypocrisy when speaking about white people and why they alone don't deserve a nation.

>>11701786
IQ is just an adaptation to compensate for the lack of systemizing. Wheny ou are poor at systemizing, you develop higher pattern matching ability to somewhat compensate. But you stay retarded either way. And nothing prevents you from developing higher IQ with high systemizing, it's just something you probably won't want to have, since the extra patterns and false positives would be a burden for your thinking.

>>11697052
if you are the ignoring the deliberate manipulation for financial gain then you are a grave fool

>>11702062
>>11702082
Quantify
>significant adaptation
>abnormally close
>minimal adaptation

>>11696129
That is just one definition of species. Many others are used