/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11610610
D I L A T E

>>11610619
you first

>>11610627
Only if you participate in the mandatory survey.

>>11610609
Seems like bullshit

Try to guess something about me based on this

>>11610609
>Go here and take this:
>>https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/
No.

>>11610630
Big Five is used in actual academic research.

>>11610643
Did you miss the mandatory?

>>11610630
More reputable than most personality tests, desu.

>>11610649
Yeah and according to "actual academic research" there's humans have 60 genders and white people can be black.

I'm sure psychology will have a new hot meme in a year.

>>11610640
You're a miserable cunt.

>>11610661
>You're a miserable cunt
Correct

>>11610640
you like arguments

>>11610656
It's been a thing for decades.

>>11610609
>>https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/

>>11610679
>>11610665
>>11610661
guess something based on mine?

>age
20.
>occupation
I am a student (Mathematics and Physics) but I work in IT right now.
>short-form qualifications
I don't know what you're asking for here.

>>11610687
agreeableness 0 nice

>>11610640
>percentile for all five factors <50
Fucking how

>>11610609
now you listen to me, mister. i program for a livin', and i mean real programming, not writin' down some skiddie function call shit! i provide the people of this community with ml and ml applications. oh, when i think of all my hard earned tax dollars goin' ta pay a bunch of little skiddie-boy researchers like you, it just makes me wanna ... oh ... oh nn... it just ...

>>11610609
Describe me.

>>11610802
>extremely low emotional stability, conscientiousness, and agreeableness
>high imagination
You fancy yourself a misunderstood genius. In actuality, you lack the work ethic to achieve anything of note. Your delusions of grandeur lead you to start arguments with the people around you in the hopes of asserting your intellectual superiority. These two things, lack of work ethic and argumentativeness, have made you into an isolated and miserable person.

what can be interpreted from this?

>>11610822
Oh fuck, that is pretty much perfect. Yeah, I have no idea what I am going to do with my life. Please help?

>>11610829
you gamed the quiz

>>11610829
You too perfect to be a real boy.

>>11610832
Unironically, look into cognitive behavioral therapy. You have some deeply ingrained bad habits, but you're not hopeless. In the mean time, try to minimize your worst traits. Set a somewhat strictly scheduled routine for yourself and try to stick to as best you can, and try to deescalate any arguments you find yourself in.

>All these vague questions
>All self-reported
Yeah, I'm thinking it's pseudoscience.
Same thing with that autism test someone posted here a few months ago

>>11610845
Thank you, anon. It is appreciated, as at the moment I feel as if my existence is pretty hopeless. The main issue when it comes to routines, despite having Asperger's, is getting into in the first place without it faltering people it even becomes ingrained.

>>11610845
Thank you, anon. It is appreciated, as at the moment I feel as if my existence is pretty hopeless. The main issue when it comes to routines, despite having Asperger's, is getting into it in the first place without it faltering before it even becomes ingrained.

>>11610847
>vague self reported questions
Like an IQ test?

>>11610832
>>11610845

Unironically, kill yourself

>>11610847
It's apparently fit for purpose enough for academic use. Make of that what you will.

>>11610864
I have thanatophobia, so that isn't an option either.

>>11610864
Who hurt you? Was it your uncle? Did he diddle your innocent little hole? Did he stick his dirty rascal into your fudge tunnel?
>Did you secretly like it?

>>11610874
dirty rascal into fudge tunnel made me kek audibly

>>11610859
Not really. At least IQ tests are actually measuring either something quantitative (memorization, digit span, symbolic recognition speed, reaction time, etc) or something which at least attempts to have a correct answer (raven's matrices, x is to y as z is to _, logic puzzles)
They are by no means perfect, but they do not fail in the same way is this type of test.
In an IQ test you can't have people saying "Do I have excellent ideas? Why yes, of course! I'm me and I'm awesome! Therefore, I have amazing ideas!. Okay next question... Do I have a vivid memory? Aha, yes! I am me, so I am awesome. I am awesome, so I am smart. I am smart, so I have vivid memory! I mean hey, it's not like I can see what happens in other people's heads to compare! Alright, am I organized? Well I'd say I'm more organized than my roommate Stan, that guy just chucked all his papers on the ground whereas I shove all my papers in a pack! So yeah, I'd say I'm decently organized."
You cannot trust people to self report accurately.
By the Dunning-Kruger effect (the actual one, not 'the le epik peak of mount stupid' reddit version), most people, regardless of actual ability, believe themselves to be above average.

>>11610885
That is true, but you would be able to see which report more accurately and which do not. For instance, if someone is clearly trying to overly favor themselves, they would have unrealistically high metrics, like >>11610829. As such, you would then see those with a great asymmetry or average scores is more likely to be "truer". Also, studies looking at Big Five, in relation to things like IQ, have found significant positive correlations between Openness to Experience and higher IQ scores. So clearly, there is more than just hogwash to Big Five, but of course, it isn't infallible either.

>>11610885
That is true, but you would be able to see which report more accurately and which do not. For instance, if someone is clearly trying to overly favor themselves, they would have unrealistically high metrics, like >>11610829. As such, you would then see those with a great asymmetry or average scores is more likely to be "truer". Also, studies looking at Big Five, in relation to things like IQ, have found significant positive correlations between openness to experience and higher IQ scores. So clearly, there is more than just hogwash to Big Five, but of course, it isn't infallible either.

>>11610885
>>11610917
Another example is conscientiousness, which was found to significantly negatively correlated with intelligence.

>>11610924
That's far from being conclusive. Some studies have found no significant correlation between conscientiousness and IQ, and some have found a positive correlation.

>>11610932
>That's far from being conclusive.
Which was probably due to sampling. But yes, as I said, it isn't infallible, but nor is it "useless". If it was "useless", it wouldn't be used for academic applications.

>>11610609
reporting in.

>>11610951
Studious, stern, stoic, grumpy.

>age
21
>occupation
NEET


Seems average to me

>>11610974
Introverted normie, above average intellect.

What does it meeeeean, also is there any reading into this I should do?

>>11610990 see >>11610822, but a little bit more stable.

>>11610640
>>11610661
>>11610679
>>11610687
>>11610758
>>11610802
>III

>>11610829
>IV

Me: 2.6,3.5,4.4,2.8,4.3

Why are most people in this "Phlegethon" introverted?

>>11610994
I'm not particularly miserable or argumentative, but yea I have delusions of being a misunderstood genius for sure, thanks anon :)

>>11611001
Hence the "a little bit more stable".

>>11610998
>Me: 2.6,3.5,4.4,2.8,4.3
Centiles? If so, what the fuck?

>>11611002
By the way, how to you go about interpreting the data? just learn how the system works or something?

>>11610665
Don't take him seriously, see the 'III'.

>>11610609
>age
21
>occupation
Studying Mathematics at University

I'm an emotional wreck who constantly questions why I'm alive and I really want to just fucking kill myself but I'm too scared to do so. Learning and keeping track of scientific progress is one of the only reasons I want to currently live.

I didn't have any motive to do this, but here are my results.

>>11611012
I infer personality traits from either the abnormal presence or absence of a factor, and assume normality from an average presence.

>>11611021
I see, how'd you go about learning this sort of thing? Might look into it myself

>>11611026
Gut instinct, alongside knowledge of the perceived encompassing traits of the factors.

>>11611017
I'm sure you're a wonderful person, don't harm yourself.

>>11611018
The ultimate philosopher-curmudgeon.

What do I win?

how do psychologists cope with the fact that these "self-report" tests are, well, just that, self-reported info? and that most of the people solving these crap tests are american college kids? the data is heavily skewed and not representative of the population at all, yet they base their theories and studies on bullshit like this.

>>11610957
i wouldn't say i'm grumpy but otherwise pretty accurate.

>>11611162 see >>11610917. Also, they also do in person tests with more representative samples. I mean, Big Five has been a thing for decades, long before the Internet.

>>11610609

>>11611205
>t. introverted unfriendly lazy dumbass

>age
20
>occupation
neet

>>11611217
>t. extremely introverted unfriendly unstable dumbass, kinda lazy too

>>11611216
Is this my prize? Well that was fun. Good thread guys.

>>11611225
I mean, what else am I meant to say? At least you aren't ridiculously unstable.

>>11611227
>low intellect
>high stability
The epitome of ignorance is bliss.

>>11611230
You wanna fight you piece of shit?

>>11611237
Ah yes, that 7% agreeableness, right there!

kidding.

>>11611237
>>11611239
At least you aren't as dumb as: >>11611227

>>11611243
Ya that guy's dna should be put to work in a dumb person factory

Fuck me

>>11611252
Holy shit, anon. That's rough.

>>11611252
Walk us through a day in your life anon.

>>11611197
>Big Five has been a thing for decades, long before the Internet.
and the data must have been even MORE skewed, since psychologists are usually very close to universities, and they'd pay students to take tests and shit.

>>11611276
You know what they say about bold claims, right?

>>11611262
Let’s see
>Barely passing my math/physics courses despite putting inhumane hours
>every moment of life is an assault to my self worth
>I hate meeting new people because i always ended up disappointing them eventually
Sorry for the rant but this virus is driving me mad

I’m enjoying quarantine

>>11610609
Looks Like my university grades q_q
The conscientiousness is skewed way higher than it should be because I'm very organized/possibly OCD, but I'm far from diligent and very impulsive.
Also would have been higher in openness if it weren't for my shit tier vocab.

>>11610609
Cool does this mean im a sociopath?

>>11611291
I just want to give you a big old hug.

Am I bipolar or psychotic?

>>11611311
Your imagination is too low to be psychotic

>>11611292 looks like you took >>11611227's crown for:
>The epitome of ignorance is bliss.

>>11611304
Not bad, but the stability is worrying. Do you reckon it has anything to do with your pretty extreme introversion?

>>11611306
Maybe, take this:
>https://www.idrlabs.com/dark-triad/test.php

Im depressed. How do i get happy

>>11611217
Introvert that isn't very fond of themselves

I'm 30 and much happier than this thing makes me appear. Hope you're all enjoying your evenings. I love this board.

>>11611280
google: psychology studies mostly american students

can't find the original article, but found a short one that has links to multiple other articles: http://neuroanthropology.net/2010/07/10/we-agree-its-weird-but-is-it-weird-enough/
>Well, a group from the University of British Columbia recently published an enormous meta-analysis on the danger of assuming that all of humanity closely matches the behaviors of 20-something college students. They cite evidence that between 2003 and 2007 undergrads made up 80 percent of study subjects in six top psychology journals, and that 96 percent of all psychology samples come from countries that make up only 12 percent of the world’s population. They call this the WEIRD population—Western Educated Industrialized Rich Democratic—and say that they are the least representative populations one could find for generalizing about humans.

>>11611346
Oh yeah im 18 and a meteorology student.

>>11611346
if clinically depressed, see doctor!

>>11611370
>They cite evidence that between 2003 and 2007 undergrads made up 80 percent of study subjects in six top psychology journals, and that 96 percent of all psychology samples come from countries that make up only 12 percent of the world’s population.
Fucking hell, I honestly didn't think it would be that bad. How can they be so lazy with their methodology?

honest answering. emotional stability seems way too high though

>>11611388
A fairly well-rounded individual, why is your emotional stability compromised though?

> 21
> math/cs undergrad at a top school

So?

>>11611395
Unpleasant smartass, would that be fair?

>>11611393
>>11611393
i am borderline, but went so long undiagnosed i learnt to cope with it and interact with others better.

>>11611382
at least there is internet now and they can get responses from random people, including foreigners and shit. though they still have to read the tests in english...

>>11611381
Currently in therapy. It helps but not much. Really not interested in antidepressants after quitting drugs a little over a year ago and dealing with addicts in the family. Is there anything a medical doctor can do besides give you pills?

>>11611409
Well, I hope you keep your shit together. Good luck.

>>11611410
Imagine if medical schools were like this, just 80% of their candidates were 20 something year old college students. They'd think the majority of the population were extremely unhealthy, when compared to such a limited sample.

>>11611414
tends to be a three pronged approach these days:
1 talking therapy or CBT
2 pills
3 activity

3 can be exercise hobbies anything that isnt too mentally stressful.

2 can be useful for sympomatic relief. i hate taking them but they do help.

1. is what it is, works for some and some find it very effective.

>>11611398
Definitely accurate when I have a lot of work or if someone tries to talk to me about something stupid

>>11611304
btw age=22 and am a math/physics student
>>11611322
Probably not. I'd say it's mostly due to the contrast between my personal high standards and the way I cope by avoidance, hence being far from my standards while believing I could achieve them had I not been as pathetic as I have been. typical coomer/internet junkie student shit

>>11611425
Definitely trying to do all the things that your supposed to do. Definitely better than I was a few months ago but feels like I've plateaud recently. High extroversion is worthless when paired with low agreeableness.

Seems about right fuck

>>11611432
That's fair.

>>11611433
Ah, I see. Well, I hope you find some better coping strategies, you're far healthier than me.

>>11611443
Looks normie(ish), although a little unconscientious and unstable.

22
NEET right now
i have a bachelors in EE and will be starting physics phd in august

>>11610640
>https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/
Autism

Gen X mathfag

>>11611466
Hardworking stoic asshole, maybe?

>>11611472
i am stoic but not really hardworking or an asshole. i am pretty lazy except maybe when i get paid for the work. not an asshole at all but it might seem that way as i am not sympathetic, empathetic, and dont care about other peoples feelings but i am nice to others

>>11610984
Define above average intellect

>>11610609
why am i so weak sauce? this is tragic

>>11611515
A stupid lazy unstable loudmouth, lmao.

>>11611519
It's genetic we're all like this

>>11611556
Your whole family?!

>>11610829
the responses to my result concern me cuz i literally answered the questions truthfully, without the intent to game the results. Are these really unrealistic results or what.

>>11611579
You would be an unusually stable human.

I've got no idea what this could mean

>>11611504
Not retarded

>27
>Athletic Trainer
>Finishing a course based masters, considering a second masters

What does this mean

>>11611628
It means you're a cool dude but also a fucking prick

>>11611628
A "Minor Chad". To attain higher levels of Chad, you need to increase your extroversion.

>>11611618
I'm going to assume that's in relation to normies and not the sub 80 iq sense of the word.

>>11611650
Of course, contextual relativism and all that jazz.

>>11610609
could these lazy psychtards really not come up with a unique list of questions at the very least? half of these questions are just repeats of prior ones with different wording

>>11610609
Judge me off my test friendos.

>>11611630
Damn RIP
>>11611641
Thanks for the inspiration bruh

>>11611685
Too well-rounded to be a real person. As such, I'm going to assume you have some kind of terrible vice.

>26
>Fraud Specialist (fancy name for someone who takes fraud reports to pass to the investigation team at a call center)
>I literally don't know what short-form qualifications are

>>11611695
He's most likely a sociopath

>>11611695
Sugar honestly can't stop myself from sugary sweetness.

>>11611723
I care too much about people and get extreme guilt when I do wrong. I do wonder what its like to be sociopath because they feel numb and don't have to worry as much I do about people.

So basically I’m an agreeable idiot

>>11611740
It's easier than you might think. You don't always have to be a dick to everyone and not care. You can do nice things and not care. The issues with sociopaths usually comes from an inflated ego and lack of developed morality.

>>11611685
You would make a good leader but, since you're here asking you waste too much time and procrastinate often since you need to do things the right way the first an last time. You're a perfectionist mate

>>11610829
likeable person would be a good teacher
>>11610990
hard to work with but you pull your weight
>>11611217
anon i
>>11611685
Thoughtful Chad why are you even here?
>>11611723
The test says the opposite of sociopath, you're projecting anon.

Lemme stay home

>33
>Masters Degree
>Write software
I write software for the government and am well known in a very niche community. I have military service. I am active in my church and my local community. Helping others is the most rewarding thing I do on a daily basis.

Chad NEET here.

k

>>11612162
forgot to include, for your survey:
27
MSc
Risk Quant at a Bank, working on software but doing the specs/math and not the programming; also lead a small team

>>11610609

>>11612147
>I have military service
>That emotional stability
How... how did you survive?

Here

>>11610609
personality test are retarded

>>11610609

>>11612972

You seem like a funny person

>>11612929
a tard

>>11610687
Based.

>27
>doing a phd in maths

>>11612983
Funny?

>>11613213
Howcome >>11612993 calls me a tard when I am just 16 yo highschool coomer, who scored significantly higher than >>11613213 who is 27 yo doing PhD in math

>>11613250
Scoring higher than me doesn't mean you are not a tard, as I am essentially a vegetable.

22
got adhd

>>11612217
Fake it till you make it!

how fucked am I /sci/?

>>11610845
>cognitive behavioral therapy
the most overhyped shit ever

>>11613426
Not at all, but you are a little unstable.

>>11611276
>they'd pay students to take tests and shit.
this is one of those tests were results would vary a lot, whether you knew your specific answers were truly anonymous, or kept as data.
Social-norm adjusted answers will be a lot more 'agreeable' for me, and probably more
'conscientious' for some of you.
but i did just a progressive matrix iq level 190 CAPTCHA in order to post this...

i already knew I was incredibly boring and uncreative

>>11610609
30, last job was a machine technician but I left and have been unemployed and living off savings for about a year.

I feel like these results are a bit skewed because while I criticize and judge people harshly, I do my best to keep it internal and to always find some positive solution or outcome even when dealing with people who don't know any better, dumb people make mistakes getting mad is inefficient when compared to the return on teaching them to be less dumb.

Fucking kill me

Because fuck you, that's why.
20-something.
Undergrad degree in finance, work in related field.

>>11611291
>I hate meeting new people because i always ended up disappointing them eventually
can relate
23, neet. took one of these 3 years ago and my intellect/imagination score wasn't that low. i suppose i'm pretty self-conscious about it now

My turn

>21
>Undergrad in Computer Engineering, interested in embedded systems
Who am I /sci/?

>>11615206
Someone who makes for a great conversational partner.

what does this mean for me

>>11615327
also
>18
>med school soon (hopefully)

But I score very well on IQ tests

>>11611369
>I love this board.
Seriously?

>>11611369
I hope you maintain your optimism throughout life, very few people left on this board have it

>>11615410
Although that personality trait correlates with iq, intellect =/= intelligence

am i autistic?

Conclusion ?

>>11610609
Autism here

>>11610609
too lazy to download the image
3 extroversion
1 emotional stability
0 agreeableness (for some reason the mter actually sticks out though, weird huh?)
31 conscientiousness
96 intellect
I don't think the emotional stability is correct nor the conscientiousness (conscientiousness, is however wrong by quite a small margin I'd suspect, although I don't exactly know how these ratings work)

>>11615327
you won't like seen people die all the time, you might enjoy doing research and teaching at college

>>11616403
not too autistic for someone in stem

>>11616689
math/cs researcher material

>>11616813
medical doctor or something else health related

>>11616828
at least you're somewhat conscientious and emotionally stable

lol

Age: 19
I have ADHD so that explains some of this test

>>11610609
:(

>>11610609
28
Unemployed for 1+ years