/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11606279
Proof of any of your claims?

>>11606286
Visual, lingual and arithmetic thinking are primitive forms that helped us survive. Research Hegel's picture-thinking. True thinking can't be visualized or accessed through any other senses.

>>11606279
That's why we put a large section of the test dedicated entirely to problems you're extremely unlikely to have seen before, so you have to think for yourself.

>>11606279
You do not understand psychometrics, I'll give you a definition of intelligence used in psychometrics, and is what, in part, IQ tests analyze:
>Picture related.

>>11606306
Even at its inception people were aware that these problems are N O T N O V E L and would be piss easy for your average mathematicians/physicist/philosopher.

>>11606311
Because going from a higher to lower state somehow isn't more accurate. Is this how brainlets cope?

>>11606326
I'm sorry, who are you again? Oh right, a nobody.

>>11606340
>Appeal to authority
filtered

>>11606351
>Not realizing you aren't quite as clever as you think you are.
filtered

>>11606370
>still not even one(1) sound argument
You're not even.

>>11606311
>Puzzle solving is what we mean by intelligence guise!
Well my definition of intelligence defines you as drooling retard

>>11606384
Read the actual definitions, you drooling retard.

>>11606396
Even the person who wrote it couldn't properly describe them you fucking subhuman. You need to read them.

>>11606400
Lmao, /sci/ really does have the biggest ego, eh? Get over yourself.

>>11606408
>damage control

>>11606413
Not really, Taleb. You just think too highly of yourself, you unironically think you know more about the field of psychometrics than e largest scientific and professional organization of psychologists in the United States. That is hilarious.

my iq is 155 stay mad

>>11606417
>he still can't comprehend it
Taleb argues for a completely different thing, pseud.

>>11606426
Not him but it took me a while to understand the relevance of the picture either. I had a moment of self doubt there and I briefly considered the possibility my reading comprehension finally broke completely. Maybe there's some mysterious linguistic subtlety that makes it unintentionally difficult to understand, I don't know. I'm also on adderall and no sleep so I'll leave it to you to figure out. I'm going to bed now, good night.

>>11606446
>now he is impersonating other people to save face

>>11606279
Nice strawman, no professional or expert claims that IQ tests 100% test intelligence, which is why the modules of IQ tests have different g-loadings. But yeah, you probably didn't know that, or if you did, probably didn't understand it. Unless, of course, you are just being a disingenuous fuck.

>>11606279
recognizing patterns is abstract thinking
making sure you've got it right and not what seemed right is critical thinking

>>11606470
>>11606478
>exposing your reading disability that easy
we live in a society

>>11606482
Try again. Your premise is that "they", whoever that is, claim that IQ tests 100% test intelligence, but hat isn't claimed by those in the know. So, if you are talking about the laymen, what exactly is the point of your post? Try again, DK.

>>11606484
>what exactly is the point of your post?
The IQ thread.

>>11606487
Which you don't make clear in your OP, it just looks like an attack on the concept of IQ from a false premise. You might want to work on your writing, and if you proofread it, your reading comprehension also.

>>11606493
>false premise
It is. Since you're a bit slower, try meditating for a while on it and maybe you will comprehend it.

>>11606502
>My writing is so poor, it requires you to commune with the universe to understand.
Once again, my overblown self-important simpleton, you might want to work on your writing. Since you are trying to convey a clear message, write with brevity, this isn't some literature thread, or a poetry discussion. Although, such frivolities may fit your "disposition" better.
Now, stay down, boy.

>>11606508
I laid it as simple as possible because I expected retards like you to not get it. How do I know you're obviously low IQ? Because you lack even the most basic integrity to read and comprehend what this thread is about. I want to help people realize on what to focus and yet faggots like you come and screech as if I have taken their lunch, fucking pseuds, man.

>>11606517
Oh dear, oh dear, you just don't learn? Where exactly do you make it clear in your OP that this is solely about IQ threads, and not about meaningful claims? Oh wait, you don't, and you don't because you are a moron, and who thinks far too highly of themselves. I warned you, and I warned you fairly, stop with this charade. You have been outed, and proven either an idiot or disingenuous. Which is it?

>>11606526
>solely
ONCE AGAIN, ITS NOT SOLELY ABOUT THEM, M O R O N.

>>11606527
But you said: >>11606487
You literally said, in reply to "what exactly is the point of your post", that the point was to address "the IQ thread". Do you know what that means? It means you are disingenuous, thank you for answering >>11606526, how kind of you. You are a M O R O N.

>>11606539
But I still criticize IQ tests, retard. I can't believe someone can be this uppity when they can't even read and think.

>>11606546
I asked directly what you meant by the OP, you told me, so now you are saying that you lied? Nice to know you have no integrity. Also, why bother criticizing IQ tests, when as said above, no one in the know claims that IQ tests 100% test intelligence. To show off? Okay, nice... and pointless. Go read up on g-loading, you self-important faggot.

>>11606554
>lied
>he doesn't even know how his language works
This is a gold mine, sadly I'm going to sleep.
>not 100%
>when its actually 0
I'm trying to help you, think before posting or you will embarrass yourself somewhere in real life.

>>11606279
>>11606306
IQ tests only test sensitivity to patterns. People oversensitive to seeing patterns with atrocious ability to spot which patterns are real and which are not will still score high, while those with extremely skeptical witing may be disadvantaged and score low.

>>11606286
>imagining proof exists outside of math

>>11606311
This is why successful businessmen are actually far smarter than generally given credit.
It takes incredible intelligence to organize hundreds of people and millions of dollars in PPE.
Moron commies think they can just take the plant over and it keeps running just as before.

>>11606351
>>11606370
filtered.

>>11606314
Provide evidence for the claim that it’s easy for those groups

>>11606297
You can't seriously think that this word salad is a proof.

>>11607157
These groups score higher than every other

>>11609029
You can't seriously have this low reading comprehension and then have the nerve to post in this thread.

>>11609162
>still hasn't posted proof for his claims

>>11609474
>give him source
>no proof

>>11609498
Wait, you think that "Hegel's picture-thinking" is source that IQ tests don't test abstract and critical thinking?
Holy shit you really are something special aren't you?

>>11609507
Wait, you haven not read what is it about yet continue to spew bullshit. Are you even sentient?

>>11609522
Dude, you think that IQ tests don't test intelligence. Just take the L already.

>>11609525
Probably made a big drool after this post, huh?

>>11609532
meant for>>11609522

>>11609535
Are you drowning from all the saliva?

>>11609540
>The absolute state of IQ deniers
You probably think Taleb is smart

>>11609545
Faggot, I D O N ' T D E N Y T H E V A L I D I T Y O F I Q, J U S T T H E W A Y T H E T E S T S A R E F O R M E D.

>>11607140
The 'commies' did succed at that. When you take a well off people from both, the capitalist one will look gloriously wealthy compared to the commie one. But the average Joe from the commie country will be far better off.

>>11609555
You deny the way the tests are formed? That doesn't even mean anything. You seriously don't know what you are talking about.

>>11609571
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>>11609579
The smartest thing you wrote ITT

>>11609585
>can't read
>its other people who are dumb
Yep. People like you are the reason why everything is so shit nowadays.

>>11609598
>what I said isn't what I meant
>y-you just can't read

Like talking to a brick wall, amazing.
Alright I'm out, you can have a last word if you like

>>11609603
Great, you finally realized how wrong you're. Maybe one day you will get the magical powers to visualize abstract concepts and even flip them in thousand of ways and infinite dimensions.

>>11606279
All these retards are trying to find what intelligence "is". But it was US that first came up with the idea of intelligence, and attached certain aspects to identify it with. That is to say, we should not "find out" what intelligence is, we should DEFINE it, then RANK people using the CRITERIA we have tautologically DEFINED IT AS HAVING. THIS is what IQ tests do.

>>11609603
>>11609598
>>11609585
>>11609579
>>11609571
>>11609555
>>11609615
And the reason why stupid fights like this happen is because each party involved is DEFINING intelligence using DIFFERENT CRITERIA, because ULTIMATELY, ALL DEFINITIONS OF INTELLIGENCE ARE DIFFERENT, since they are coming from DIFFERENT brains, with DIFFERENT memories and DIFFERENT thoughts.

>>11610062
Intelligence is evolutionary and thus some of it can be purer. The one with no stimuli is purest as it focus on the very activity of thinking.
>>11610076
No, its not about subjectivity. My thread is about the purity of intelligence and the most concrete and accurate way of thinking.

>>11610102
>Intelligence is evolutionary
It doesn't matter if it is "evolutionary", it was still you who seperated it from other phoenomena based on aspects that you yourself defined it to have.
>No, its not about subjectivity. My thread is about the purity of intelligence and the most concrete and accurate way of thinking.
There is no "pure" intelligence, there is only you who has defined some set of aspects as "pure" and demonstrating "concrete" thinking. "Concrete", "absolute" thinking is defined by you in the same manner: tautologically corresponding to aspects you yourself chose.

>>11610117
>It doesn't matter if it is "evolutionary"
But it does though.
>thinking is defined by you in the same manner
Subjectivity is not your helper here. Relative to our knowledge an our goal there is. I don't know why are trying to argue against that when you can't make a sound argument.

>>11606370

eeeew

what is the point of iq tests? it isnt to see what kids have potential because the economy hires duhversity and not due to merit.

>>11606517
>The most important part of the intelligence is our abstract and critical thinking, something not seen in IQ tests.
>They are mostly about visual, lingual and arithmetic thinking but not the rawest of raw and purest of pure intelligence.

>How do I know you're obviously low IQ?

rly? dolan, pls. u kno hes lo iq but reely u don see is pur intello

>>11606279
Iq tests can't measure creativity, just correlational thinking.
But correlational thinking is quite needed for a USEFUL creativity.

>>11606279
I can confirm. I scored 100% on my IQ test but I still struggle with science things

>>11609525
not the guy you're insulting but go back

>>11606279
Everyone knows IQ tests are wrong because the political and social implications make me uncomfortable duh

>>11614337
Huh?

>>11606279
There is so much deviation in the IQ tests I take. The lowest I've scored is 115 & the highest I've scored is 136.