/sci/ - Science & Math

reduce one part bleach and another part ammonia together,

>>11559690

oh yeah :DDD

go on

>>11559683
If you want to do acid, why not just get 1P-LSD or ALD-52?

>>11559683
>v& for purchasing ingredients
no. you can even buy a syringe of shroom spores which can produce POUNDS of shrooms and its perfectly legal

>>11559683
>how does one make LSD?
Idk, not a chemist. But I know it's not that hard, since undergrad chem students can make it.
>Can you get v& for purchasing its ingredients even if you're producing only enough for yourself and not selling?
Ask a chemist, but probably not. Generally LEA don't give a fuck about users beyond using them to track down distributors.
>Can one get in trouble for even looking up how to make it?
No. Have a look, it's not hard to find.

haha it's extraordinarily difficult for an amateur to synthesize from scratch

>>11559700

What makes them different than the standard variation?

>>11559721
variations are generally the same in affect but i think 1p-lsd doesn't work if you swallow it but normal lsd does. could be wrong on that one tho

>>11559683
Please don't take mind-altering substances unless you know for sure what you're doing. I got fucked up for a few weeks

>>11559788
cont.
Disregard that, I suck cocks

Reminder that psychedelics are for brainlets and that the experience is insufferable for anybody above 115 IQ

>>11559724
You are wrong on that
>>11559721
The technical legality in various jurisdictions

>>11559814
>You are wrong on that
i was thinking of nbome when i said that

>>11559813
Post some evidence of that. I don't personally like taking them either, but how did you draw such an arbitrary conclusion?

>>11559813
On the contrary only people above 115 IQ can afford and enjoy psychedelics

>>11559813
you know what time it is: you now must post a vocaroo of yourself speaking with 1/100th of the erudition and eloquence of the Head Machine Elf In Charge, else you're a fucking Loser kiddo

>>11559813
post your insufferable trip report please?

>>11559859
You'd have to be a complete brain dead NPC to physically and mentally tolerate them

>>11560078
that's literally only something an NPC would say about anything they've never done before, because NPCs never do anything interesting at all and therefore could only get mad at people doing interesting things

>>11559788
you mean like alcohol?

>>11559813
reminder people that post this are retarded 12 year old that will you girls have cooties

>>11560293
>are retarded 12 year old that will you girls have cooties
learn english nigger

>>11559683
Nice try FBI

>>11559683
The easiest way would be to isolate Lysergic Acid and then simply add a diethyl amide unit to it. Synthesizing LSD from scratch would be impractical, time consuming and extremely difficult, even for an experienced chemist.

>>11560316
OP is a retard but your reply is also retarded (and yes I know it's a meme reply).
Multiple syntheses of lysergic acid and LSD are in the open literature. It's not secret knowledge, nor is it illegal to posses or discuss such knowledge. Chemistry professors routinely lecture on historically important syntheses of cocaine and morphine.
here's a nice enantioselective lysergic acid synthesis from a few years ago
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jo4018777
of course OP, being a retard, could never pull it off.

>>11560364
well lets all put our big brains together and start diagramming the process

>>11560373
>>11560364
and thx btw

>>11559813
You haven't even done psychedelics lmao.

>>11559683
>Is it easy to fuck up
yes and don't do it
also even it worked it would be extremely uneconomical

>>11560437
how would it be uneconomical

>>11560496
most total syntheses have sub 1% yields, and produce enormous amounts of waste. You can count the number of complex syntheses (of acid's difficulty) with real economic value on one hand.
Total synthesis is pretty much just academic masturbation.

>>11560078
I sort of catch your drift, but I'm not that extreme about it. If you ever tripped when you were younger you'd notice there were retards who would just laugh or want to fight. It was never pure pleasure for anyone with much of a personality.

>>11559683
https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/index.html#lsd

>>11559788
a few weeks in the grand scheme of things is nothing so long as you're not a danger to yourself in that time frame. Most all reports of traumatic bad trips resolve with no negative lasting effects in roughly the same time frame.

I had lets call "somewhat apparent" dissociation for about 3 weeks after doing acid, with a very very mild occasional halucination up to 6months later. The dissociation ruined my january that year but also taught me things. my perception of reality felt like I was "watching a movie" during, so when it ended I could put myself into that headspace to a lesser extent after the fact and be more bold than I might otherwise have been. And in an effort to fix it during the 3 weeks, meditations "being in the moment" mantra suddenly became a valuable philosophy to me. I explored that world for a while. Not something I need anymore, and haven't since, but I certainly appreciated it for that time. The experience expanded my mind overall thats for sure, and that's just the after effects, not even the fun and introspection during the trip itself.

Yes, do your research and get properly informed (erowid), but don't be scared. LSD works itself out unless you were bound for psychosis anyway.

>>11559701
Depends on your state and country.
While they may be able to send it to you it can be intercepted in transit and confiscated.

Let's see OP, do you have any rye fields near you? That's a good start

>>11560364
>Zhang & al.

>>11560373

> /trip/ - Psychedelics General
> latest literature and infographics in the general's pastebin

Kek, I bet the jannies would just LOVE that one

>>11559721
They are legal analogues that have similar effects but SUCK compared to LSD-25

>>11561506
When I was in HS first checking out 4chan I member /b/ used to have regular infographic dump threads explaining how to do all kinds of shady illegal shit. From how to shoplift from Walmart to making lsd to how to get into drug dealing and how to make basic bombs. Most of it was survivalist bullshit but shit was damn interesting. There was a pastabin with all the links I used to have bookmarked but shits been dead.

>>11559683
libgen.is Uncle''s Fester LSD Synthesis.

It's whole book about that. I recommend you to just hit LSD in libgen.is there are books about history, manufacture and stuff like that.

Be careful to recalculate all chemistry yourself due to possible errors.

rhodium.ws

LSD synthesis takes up to 60 hours of more or less constant work and can only be pulled off by professional chemists or very experienced labassistants.
Byproduct? of what? If you look at the structure, its very distinct, this is not just some byproduct, you need actual specific precursors to synth LSD. So no not easy at all. Producing only for yourself is virtually impossible, as soon as you have some collectible liquid you have hundreds of doses. Looking it up wont get you in trouble at all, legit chemists read up on drug synthesis to learn some synthesis pathways.

If you want to take acid, make sure its actually acid and below 150 micrograms for your first time, I did 200ug my first time and it was wonderful but only because Ißve read so so much about how to affects you that I was virtually prepared for every moment.

IF you ever freak out and spiral into negative thoughts, breathe, and maybe drink some water, sometimes you will need music, or a person you can trust to be with you(best when sober). If none of that is possible then breathe, focus on your breathing and close your eyes, yes it will go away and yes you will sober up, that one single doese didnt fuck you up for life fucking cut out of it.

>>11561854
>IF you ever freak out and spiral into negative thoughts, breathe, and maybe drink some water, sometimes you will need music, or a person you can trust to be with you(best when sober). If none of that is possible then breathe, focus on your breathing and close your eyes, yes it will go away and yes you will sober up, that one single doese didnt fuck you up for life fucking cut out of it.

yeah, it helps to be prepared for thought loops so you're not completely caught off guard. they can be tricky even for the veteran psychonauts

>>11561854>>11561538
From what Ißve collected 1P-LSD is a prodrug of LSD and becomes LSD once its in your bloodstream, idk if its the same situation like 4-AcO-DMT because in that case not onmly the metabolite is psychoactive but the ingested molecule aswell which may let your experience vary from the classic Psilocin or in 1P_LSDs case LSD-experience.

>>11561854
Anxiliotics can help reduce effect if you freak out.

>>11561862
Yeah I got into my first negastive spiral when I mixed LSD with aMT, bad idea, the aMT dehydrated me and I was on a hike where the sun was grilling us. I was panicking that I might dehydrate and the thought loop started, but then again, if you have your standard "hearthstones" you can always come back, I for example have little rules that help me get my grip back on reality. I think everyone needs their own rules though so Idk if that knowledge is transferable.

I tried like 20 differennt psychedelics if you guys interested I can share some experiences with you.

>>11561506
Source on pic? I really like the art style...

>>11561872
Never got to the point where I actually had to take one. My freakout were controllable due to the fact that I only trip with really good friends where absolutely no judgement is involved and I donßt have to be ashamed for anything. But also due to the amount of tripstories that I read that soemwhat prepared me mentally for a bad experience.
But I also like to think that I hgave a pretty good grip on reality.

if i do anything but microdose lsd i start vomiting uncontrollably. i think its some anxiety issue im not sure

>>11561902
LSD and other serotinin-receptor binding molecules can cause discomfort because most of these receptors are located in your gut.
But yes it might be some sort of psychological aversion, I had that with almonds when I was a kid, even though I wasn't allergic I started vomiting.

>>11561886

Of course anon :)

The artist is Gustav Klimt, and he was a very prominent master of the Symbolist school in the late 19th and early 20th century, which incorporated myths and archetypes into dream-like compositions which combated the realism popular at the time. Look up Symbolist painters, and you'll have a field day

>>11561884

Shame. When I dropped some acid innawoods, it was nearly spring so nothing was green except for some of the understory. I didn't think much of it until I saw the most beautiful moss I'd ever seen, it was pulsating like emerald fire. I'd love to see something like that again, a tab is as high as I wanna go

>>11561902

It's not real lsd lol . Probably a 2cb

>>11562385
LSD and 2cb vary in dosage by a factor of 100, I highly doubt that.

>>11559683
I don'y know about producing it as a byproduct from normal reactions, as the chemical structure is relatively complex (as with most compounds synthesised from precursors found in nature). If it was produced as a byproduct, then that would be because the scientists are working with Ergot or Ergoline derivatives.
Put very simply, one makes LSD from adding amide chemical groups to regular lysergic acid, which you obtain from Ergoline.
Yes, it is easy to fuck up. You need a a solid foundation in organic chemistry in addition to proper lab equipment. a $100 clan lab will not cut it. The materials you work with will make you very sick if you're not careful. The ergot fungus is especially nasty. Refer to wikipedia for a full explanation.
Yes you will get prosecuted if you're caught getting the ingredients. They are monitored for the very reason you're talking about. At the moment, that is the least of your problems.
No you can't get in trouble for looking at how to make it. You might get put on a watchlist but you can bypass that by using a VPN. They can't arrest you because you haven't done anything. The moment you start purchasing chemicals though, the popo have reason to bust you.
t. I have never produced it but i have an undergrad in chem and also have a fascination with drug synthesis

>>11561922
>most of these receptors are located in your gut
wot, interesting. even when i microdose my stomach feels like im approaching 0G.

>>11562385
it was lsd25, and ostensibly "needlepoint" if that even matters. i imagine it's not so easy to sell literal mislabeled garbage on empire and get hundreds of positive reviews and no negatives

>>11562445
>t. I have never produced it but i have an undergrad in chem and also have a fascination with drug synthesis
Must be cool to know about it, but suck to not be able to put into practice.

>>11562554
from SS2 on empire? was thinking of trying that

>>11562562
it was ds3.0

>>11562588
is that a vendor? i've always bought mine from sam, but now he only offers needlepoint and fluff. never tried either...what happened to the fucking tabs, brother?

>>11562598
its an arbitrary name like "gamma goblins", which (i guess) signifies quality since it's a known kind by a set of well-known vendors

>what happened to the fucking tabs, brother?

>>11559683
lmao nothing produces LSD as a "byproduct". It's a pretty distinct structure. If you mean people produce it on the side because they have access to equipment, then yes that happens.

Synthesizing LSD is actually pretty hard, and if you really want to do it right you need at the very least a rotovap.

>>11560364
Congrats on synthesizing cancer

>tfw acquired a vape pen full of DMT

This shit is unreal. You can take it anywhere and blast off in a matter of seconds on a whim.

>>11562856

Where the fuck do you even find something like that? Seems a bit glowy to me...

>>11562868
DMT crystals just dissolve in the ejuice glycerine solution. If you have the crystals you can make your own easily.

>>11562882
>DMT ejuice
That would be so fucked

>>11559724
>but i think 1p-lsd doesn't work if you swallow it
That's where you're wrong, retard. I have personally swallowed 1P-LSD, and it made me trip.

>>11562883
Fuck that I lost 3 months of my life on a dmt bender

>>11562943
whats a dmt blender?

>>11562882
how do you dissolve it? in a shotglass in some in a pot in with boiling water cuz iv heard of that

>>11559788
>I got fucked up for a few weeks
Oh no!!

>>11561538
Have you done both?

>>11562856
>>11562868
>>11562882
>>11562883
>>11562888
>>11562943
>>11563099

>Imagine not being an enlightened changa smoker.

Its the superior consumption method imo.

>>11563289

sheeeeeeit, who the FUCK vaporizes dmt lol... fuck, you guys are crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF2gjAAkgs4

>>11563946
Well technically smoking it with a glass bulb is also vaporizing. But yeah as I said, changa is superior to all the other routes of administration imo.

What happens if you boof it?

From what I understand the chemical precursors are being watched and can basically only be purchased/used for by legitimate chemists. Also, to grow ergot is difficult and im pretty sure toxic. Basically unless its your job or youre in some blacksite somewhere, its just not worth it. There are psychedelics that are far easier to get your hands on.

>>11564565
Somewhere on the internet there's a video of that chick who was with the guys who made LSD in a missile silo talked about her experience doing DMT anally. Apparently it fucks you up.

>>11559788
yeah sorry you mixed up milligrams and micrograms you tard

Is it illegal to ask how to create drugs?

>>11565348

And of course, the video was produced by VICE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qliVpGEk0

>>11559907
Bruh I hope this is bait. Pretty much anyone in graduate school at a non-shitty university would be smarter than this guy. He's obviously smart, but it's honestly pretty clear to anyone who really knows these subjects, that he's not an expert on most of these topics and certainly not someone with a natural scientific or philosophical inclination. He's done interesting stuff, but he stands out more so for his ability to engage the public than any original contributions to our understanding of psychedelics and the human mind. For instance, I think Thomas Metzinger has done a lot more interesting work the Terrence, and he has done so within the context of mainstream academic science, rather than in the cultural milieu of west coast counterculture.

>>11559683
To answer OP's question, synthesizing LSD is a waste of time, unless your objective is to become some ring leader of an acid family (assuming those even exist anymore). Otherwise you can just buy it on the darkweb for super cheap. If you're actually interested in either biochemistry or neuroscience though, either would be a great field of science to study.

>>11559701
tru based and mario pilled

>>11565631

> Otherwise you can just buy it on the darkweb

Wouldn't it be crazy if someone on here actually knew what sites to go to for this, haha XDDD

>>11565631
>acid family (
Sitcoms when?

>>11565641
https://theindoleshop.com/product/1p-lsd/ here you go bud

>>11559788
>I got fucked up for a few weeks
what the fuck did you do?

don't tell me you did 2000 ug

>>11562888
>That's where you're wrong
Read the fucking thread you insufferable dumbfuck, >>11559828. And that's why I ended my fucking post with "could be wrong on that tho". kys

>>11565710
don't tell me you did 2000 ug

Whats the problem doing 2K. Happened to me spontaneously on a local german beer fest. Had some 3k with me, donated 1k to random people in random bars. The more i got drunk the more lyserg i dropped and three o clock in the morning i realized i had to get back home, turned on the spot, got out, grabbed taxi and enjoyed the ride back, made the driver laugh as fuck about some funny lsd stuff, dropped out at home, hit my bed, turned on the music and relaxed a bit, i.e. enjoyed the halucinations, slept a bit, got up and realized being on a god damn 2k trip. in the end it was just like all the trips, but streched over 2.5 days and as well was a bit exhausting

>>11559683
you get the ergotamine, hydrolyze it, and then you catalytically amidate the resulting lysergic carboxyllic acid with PyBOP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PyBOP).). Everyone knows this. It's easy. The hard part is building a clean room and cultivating the claviceps, efficiently extracting the ergotamine. Like most chemical problems, the hard part is the biology.

>>11561854
yes but hoW dO U mAkE IT?!?!!!?

>>11565726
Ppl get so defensive with there knowledge on drugs like it’s gospel

>>11566657

Psychedelics fuck around with the taker's wgo, so that doesn't surprise me

>>11559700
>>11559721
>>11561538
They get turned to LSD in your body.

>>11559813
>>11559859
>>11559898
>>11560024
IQ likely slightly below 160. Shrooms did nothing interesting to me, just relaged, people seemed kind of like caricatures of themselves (hard to describe exactly) and I was quite giggly. Nothing particularly interesting.
>>11559907
That's the thing. You already have the ability to think up completely original things, think in concepts and all that amazing abilies that are not hallucinations (I didn't really hallucinate on the shrooms either), so osychedelics have nothing interesting to give you.

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>>11560024#
IQ likely slightly below 160. Shrooms did nothing interesting to me, just relaxed, people seemed kind of like caricatures of themselves (hard to describe exactly) and I was quite giggly. Nothing particularly interesting.
>>11559907#
That's the thing. You already have the ability to think up completely original things, think in concepts and all that amazing abilies that are not hallucinations (I didn't really hallucinate on the shrooms either), so psychedelics have nothing interesting to give you.

>>11559683
psychs are a complete meme, I've done shrooms a couple dozen times, dmt a handful and lsd over 50 times, high doses, low doses, medium doses and it's a lot of fun but its just more realistic dreaming, I've watched myself die, felt myself starve to death but most 'value' comes from the post trip analysis but you can do that to the same level from just analyzing your dreams, if you describe a trip to people and ask them what it means they'll give you an answer different from your own because we generally draw whatever meaning we want to

if you want to have a fun time psychs are good, but if you want to drastically improve your life psychs probably aren't going to do it they may help you gain some egoless prospective

>>11565844
taking 2k at once and taking 2k progessively is a huuuge difference as tolerance builds up as soon as an hour has passed.

>>11559714
>synthesize from scratch
what the fuck kind of chemist says "from scratch." what is scratch? flour and butter? individual atoms?

>>11567241

I love analyzing my trips

>>11568302
I can understand that anon psychs are fun

>>11559813
I have top 0.1% IQ and I love psychedelics, I use them almost weekly.

>>11559788
This also.
I got too cocky on my first trip, while reading about psychedelics I dismissed people's warnings thinking they're some retarded druggie hippies and had a bad trip which threw me into a 3 month long psychosis. I thought I would never recover. You really don't want to experience that.

>>11561862
>thought loops
they're the fucking best though
just surrender to them and experience infinity

>>11567600
>what is scratch?
starting from materials of around 80amu and $1/g or less, and commonly available

https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/lsd-buzz.html?fbclid=IwAR0bo7GJMk698mAK90j4zVT3_WyXTlvAQ7blQ7hDbDyys4YLKDhpCaSfbiA

>>11568327
If you take the IQ test on psychadelic and it was like previous test it's fucking obvious you will win, it works for almost anything on IQ test that doesn't involve defending entropy weapons.

>>11562856
>DMT vape pen
idk why but i find the concept hilarious.
>casually hits a DMT vape pen in a bar

How are the space particles called? How do you measure space dilatation?

>>11559813
It starts working good back once your intellifence is atleast planar space, if it's real, not just integer it works like dream.

>>11568664
I would hate to smell that smoke tho, smells like burnt hair

>>11567146
How much did you take and what species/strain?

>>11565912
Once you have space, clear room and isolated lab is easier for me from craft's aspect then getting spores of it.

>>11567146
If you have normal serotogenic stimuly, you need to get a large dose to get even more ...

If you have that large IQ, your mentality is maybe already enough plastic and "overthinking" by having permutations of groups included in "normal" ideas, therefore mushrooms trips don't do overcombinatoric on your brain which would render it unusefull but amazed for hours.

>>11559700
I've heard of people buying "legal" lsd like 1P online and it can fuck you up. I don't know if theres any truth to that but I wouldnt risk it

>>11569008
all of these explanations are ridiculous, there are plenty of examples of high iq people swearing by psychedelics and low iq people thinking they're garbage

>>11559683
LSD is a huge pain in the ass to make, and would require a amateur lab at least. It's not something you can just make in your kitchen.

My advice is to just stick to growing shrooms or something, which take no effort at all.

>>11569157
3 days of work that is precise. Exactly that may seem like good excercise...

If you have properly set up plan, that you failchecked to various publications, against the chemistry itself, tables, you have equipement and 3 days of time it's actually best fun you can have.

>>11567146
This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.
You have clearly no idea what you are talking about. I hope your ok anyway but stop lying my friend, it doesn't make you look aither cool or smart.

I only ever took weed a few times in my life but I wanna try DMT.

Is it gonna fuck me up? I don't wanna go through taking gradually stronger and stronger drugs, I want one massive trip.

>>11569068
I've tried 1P-LSD personally multiple times, and it didn't fuck me up. If there are people who get fucked up from it, they're probably in the minority.

>>11569874
You could also try DPT. It's supposedly similar in intensity to DPT, but darker and more bizarre.

>>11569892
>darker
Every single time I take mind altering substances (whether it'd be weed, alcohol, even when I got anesthized), I get angry as fuck more often than not, I'd rather be hippie cool than gorilla paranoiac.

>>11569892
Yes, I am really jealous of people's lives. They can just order stuff from deep net and take whatever they want, but I am forcefully getting neuroleptic treatment that is proven toxic for brain instead of trying substances that have actually somehow not causing black holes in transmission.

>>11569874
Always start with LSD when doing psychs, it is the safest one with the fewest adverse affects and a rather mild effect

>>11570018

Fedposting aside, how does one find out where to order from the deepnet?

>>11570048
Is there something like LSD but that doesn't last 8 hours?

>>11570097
".onion domain market"

>>11570098
Shrooms

>>11561854
>IF you ever freak out and spiral into negative thoughts, breathe, and maybe drink some water, sometimes you will need music, or a person you can trust to be with you(best when sober). If none of that is possible then breathe, focus on your breathing and close your eyes, yes it will go away and yes you will sober up, that one single doese didnt fuck you up for life fucking cut out of it.

I've had a bad trip on lsd and during the trip i was completely convinced that I had completely lost my mind and that i was gonna be stick like that forever which just made things worse. The thing is before the trip I had read the same advice online before but for some reason once I was tripping my mind somehow was very convincing even though I was aware of that. How does one reconcile with this?

>>11561884
What are your little rules for getting back to reality? For me I had established that prior to tripping on lsd but I also got into a pretty negative spiral and lost all grip on reality and was convinced I had permanent lost my mind forever. It felt like there was nothing to hold on to

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>>11570097
dark.fail

>>11561702
I totally forgot about those threads until now. Was comfy desu.

>>11559683
you cant make it, op.
protip: you can buy very similar substances LEGALLY.

>>11570824
also, do not take acid. it will show you how everything is connected, which you cant unsee. the way you tick now is balanced, after acid not anymore. you will realise the privilege of life and the rarity.
most of that is hidden to genpop.

>>11570824
>very similar substances LEGALLY.
isn't it all covered under the analogue act? like that p-lsd or aco-psylocin analogues, those are pretty blatant.
Seems more like navigation of the grey area of the law, where it's technically illegal but no one cares enough to enforce (like piracy), which means you'd still want to be fairly hush-hush about it

>>11570863
misslabeled at shipping and undetectable in testing.

LSD lasts too long. Just do shrooms instead.

>>11560024
I recently ate some shrooms just to have fun and was so drunk I forgot I ate that much. About an hour later time was completely dilated and all I could see was runes and odd shapes flashing in my vision. I could not focus on anything and it seemed to last for an eternity (which was probably another hour or so). Be careful of the micro-shrooms they are deceptively powerful

Were you around for the ACB? That was some cool shit to read as a 16 year old

>>11559907
This guy is more like king brainlet

https://discord.gg/FFwRXKq

>>11571279

edgy teenagers detected

Just grow mushrooms OP. Way more easy and cheap, and doesn't require a lab or a chemistry degree

>>11560364
>Zhang et al
Pass

>>11562385
2cb won't fit on LSD tabs

>>11571990

I heard shrooms penetrate into deeper shit and are not as used for lighthearted trips, like acid or mescaline

>>11572733
Most psychedelics can be a deep or light trip. What matters is the dose, set, and setting

bump

>>11572733
shrooms give a pretty similar trip to lsd actually
lsd isn't actually used for lighthearted trips
just adjust the dose as>>11573138 said
t. done both

>>11570097
Why not just order it from the clearnet?

>>11573669

Yeah, idk about that bud

Are LSD microdoses good for you? I hear they're dopaminergic, which is essentially the same as serotonin antagonistic, and serotonergic is implicated in a shitload of chronic disorders including depression.

Wolfram Physics Project: Fundamental Theory of Physics For Kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9L-tRdPolM

>>11574445
>is constantly being on hard drugs good for you?
I dunno, what do you think?

>>11575167
Hard drugs is a irrelevant misnomer. You can call caffeine a hard drug if you take hundreds of grams as a normal dose. What's important is the mechanisms of action

>>11574445
yes but you absoolutely have to "cycle" them

>>11570048
nah I'd say shrooms, maybe you have to puke but atleast it doesn't take 8 hours to wear off in fact most of my mushroom trips felt like 2 hours of actual tripping and some hours of afterglow.

>>11570097
check out the subreddit darknetmarkets, they have info on that shit, yes I know reddit, but it was really helpful when I was doing it back in the days and I did over 70 orders to eu.

>>11570098
basically shrooms, if you can get psilocin drops get those the trip is really smooth.

>>11570471
It always depends on the situation but I try to have "reality" checks like people do to try out lucid dreaming. Also my absolute trust in science and my healthy brain.

>>11570473
nasal breathing, songs, water, taking a piss, eating a fruit, telling a friend I dont feel alright ( I mostly tripped with friends), watch the clock and realize Im in the strongest part of the trip (on set), alcohol has actually pulled me out of a bad experience induced by a paranoid first timer, getting to "REST". Most of the time bad trips are induced by not feeling like you are where you belong, you feel guilty for whatever reason, you just have to let go of that.
Some of these tips can induce the absolute opposite though, for example telling a friend that you feel bad might make him feel bad, or putting up a song that you like might feel odd because the sound might sound a bit distorted but mostly it helps.

Bad trips can be good experiences though, sometimes it's just something that bothers subconciously...
Be aware of your set (mindset) and setting (where you are at) those 2 things make up a trip.
>>11570475
catch me if you can bitch I may just be larping :)

>>11575167
What defines hard and soft is the dosage, alcohol is considered a soft drug, especially beer, if you drink 3 Litres of bear in an hour you might be close to dying from it.

>>11575221
samefagging here.

About bad trips, most of the time something is "missing" in order to transcend your trip tension to full release. To me its mostly music, especially without lyrics. I enjoy R2d2 and Shpongle on triperinos.

>>11575231
antoher good tip is, finding out what made you spiral in the first place and thinking about why it made you spiral in the first place. For example if shit is getting really strong and you feel like yopu're not coming back, why is that so, why do you distrust yourself, if you took a moderate dose theres absolutely no way you're going to get fucked up.
But in case nothing helps -> benzos.
I have a friend who took an unknown amount and had a full ego death, he was screaming during most of the trip wanted to get naked and make love to poeple, when people are this crazy you have to detain them and put them on benzos. That shit almost never happens under 300+ micrograms though, I think he had around 600.
During the trip I thought he was done fore, seriously , he was a very reserved guy and the way we witnessed him that day was unrecognizable, I thought he triggered some full on megalomania + schizophrenia but after the benzos he was compeltely normal and the next day you could talk to him like always, but man I tell you during the trip he was posessed by demons.

That happens when you let stupid people handle 30+ doses in order to "dilute" them, those faggots did a drink but diluted the acid after mxiing the drink redndering the solvant basically useless because the drink ended up being 5% alcoholic and not properly solubilizing the product.

>>11575270
But yeah all in all as I said it really breaks down to set and setting, either its you or your environment...
Anyways I hope I could answer your question, if not let me know I'm happy to go more into detailö and share my experiences

>>11575221

> reddit

huh, had no idea it was legal to post about that shit

>>11560355
What’s the step by step process look like here? Most people seem to either start with ergot for the ergotamine or poppy seeds for the LSA

>>11567146
you have to take a heroic dose idiot.

>yet another thread with no guides/infographics

>>11560355
Isn't that the old school way?
I thought about LSA and reacting diethyl ether with it, not sure on catalyst or temp.
Should be able to knock off the H2 at the amine and replace it with 2 ethyl group.

Sounds easy when water is byproduct of reaction. Also the indole ring want to donate an electron. Also amine/amides tends to form those charges and attract function groups.

>>11573663

its clear you have no idea what you are talking about, shrooms and lsd are nothing alike you fucking faggot

>>11575221
tell me more about shrooms.
I've done LSD twice, and those were fun trips but the sheer length exhausted me mentally, also I had a really hard time going to sleep both times, couldn't get the idea i might not wake up out of my head. I'm interested in doing psychedelics again but I'd like something that doesn't last as long.

>>11577406
try ibogaine

How much would it cost for pic related?!

>>11573663
>>11573138
>>11571990
Don't listen to these retards. LSD is a stimulant with a more or less clear headspace.

>>11577528
>lsd
>stimulant

brainlet spotted

bump for the hell of it

>>11559701
Jokes aside there's a ton of chemicals/compounds/raw components that you can buy that just require one more step to make them go from "harmless industrial byproduct" to "recreational drug"

>>11567600
First you must invent the universe.

just learn about DNM faggot or buy 1P-LSD

>>11577570
You can't sleep on a peak Acid trip, that's literally the definition of stimulant. Meanwhile alcohol and weed will knock you away if you consume too much of them.

>>11559683
>grow morning glory or hawaiian baby woodrose
>extract LSA from seeds
>do chemistry things
>end up with LSD

>>11578609
Incorrect. First you must invent inventing.

>>11579767

I thought those make you sick

>>11580353
Pic related, if any info is incorrect please correct me /sci/.

>>11565912
>>11579767
>do chemistry things

This is what we need elaborated. I get that hydrolysis of LSA to lysergic acid is the starting point.

Something like:

>dissolve KOH in methanolic solvent with alkaloids (does the methanolic solvent need to be anhydrous? what does the potassium hydroxide do? can someone illustrate the mechanism?)
>evap
>add water with small amount of KOH dissolved
>boil (temp?) for 1 hour under slow stream of nitrogen (why inert atmosphere? what reaction is going on here exactly?)
>cool, acidify with dilute sulfuric acid (why sulfuric?) and shake in a sep funnel with dry (meaning anhydrous?) ether
>separate bottom water layer and filter it with vacuum assist (since we acidified, the alkaloids should be polar soluble and in the water layer. So the ether is just a non-polar wash cleansing? By vacuum assist does it mean dehydrate the water layer completely?)
>Wash the precipitate with dilute sulfuric acid
(Precipitate as in the remaining residue from the water layer that has evaporated from the vacuum assist?)
>This is lysergic acid (why use sulfuric? can't you just use tartaric acid?)

https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/lsd-buzz.html?fbclid=IwAR0bo7GJMk698mAK90j4zVT3_WyXTlvAQ7blQ7hDbDyys4YLKDhpCaSfbiA

Then it's coupling lysergic acid (carboxylic acid) and diethylamine (amine) somehow (nobody wants to use crazy stuff like PyBOP, there should be an easy enough way to couple with stuff you can find in stores/make), isolating the product, column chromatography purification, and then somehow testing purity. I would hope that LSD can be made from MG seeds in a relatively chem noob friendly way where yields may not be the best but certainly attainable. Could NaOH be subbed for KOH? Can high proof/anhydrous ethanol be subbed for methanol? Can tartaric acid be subbed for sulfuric acid? Can naptha be subbed for ether?

>thread's still up
Happy Bicycle Day, everybody

>>11581013
I know, I have been learning so much the past few days from this thread

>>11581013
>forgot to buy 1c-LSD once again
Argh. It's legal too, so why am I still procrastinating on this.

>>11579724

Bump

>>11561826

Otto Snow book's is better since Uncle Fester's Uncle Fester's lacks information

>>11582489
nice

can we get a dump of infographics and guides?

and best starting sources to read

>>11584002
were do I start in calculus ?

>>11584200
Where* I should learn English first

>>11559683

Anon, if you have to ask how to make LSD it only means you lack 100% of the skills required to make it. It isn't an easy process and theres zero chance of you making it, ever.
even if i put up the total synthesis, it would be alien to you, and useless to everyone who can make it.

let it go, stick to shrooms like others advised.
find out how to make PF tek cakes and have a blast! (optionally, visit some schizo festivals like momento demento / inner sanctum and buy yourself a bottle of liquid acid)

>>11584324
what are the skills might I ask

>>11559813
Bad news for you. Psychedelics don't do real work on stupid people. You're probably too retarded to integrate the experience.

there is a recipe for LSD in TOR

>>11584907
this is sci not x

>>11561854
>60 hours of more or less constant work and can only be pulled off by professional chemists or very experienced labassistants.
if you can make a downloadable / 3D printed automated desktop-size LSD factory for "novelty purposes" I may be interested

>>11585205
plz

>>11565595
that's fucking cool

>>11559683
in most cases they will extract lsa from various plants and then change it's molecule into lsd. unless your some chemist genius and can build the molecule from the ground up. personally tho id have to say fuck lsd.

>>11580975
Is pic related possible to convert LSA and diethylamine to LSD and ammonia? It's a MoS2 (powderized molybdenite?) catalyzed transamidation reaction. But under what conditions tho? What kind of solvent?

>>11585674
this is why i told you not to bother with it.

and besides, you already have your question answered by:
>>11568528

>>11585746
So does the MoS2 catalyst work? I am genuinely curious on the mechanism of how an organometallic catalyst would catalyze a transamidation reaction.

Professor Buzz offers a wealth of info, but just the recipe isn't enough. It is important to fundamentally understand what mechanisms are occuring in each step and why they are necessary. It also leaves me wondering what is the best suited method that allows for ease of acquiring everything and is it chem noob friendly.

>>11559683

Lsd is 4 tha children

>>11565348
>>11565595
That girl is pure evil.

>>11587173
you're a bad judge of character anon

>>11587201
The way she speaks about everyone, like even from her childhood. And then proceeds to go on to be a stripper and then gets involved with a rich guy and the only thing she ever talks about him is money and drugs. I mean how is that a good person? Incredibly selfish and vapid whore. And this is just from the video.
Then I read up the story behind it. She tortured an 18 y/o guy for a week, cut him up, beat him up, sexually abused and drugged him up. Now everything adds up. Psychopathic manipulative bitch. Best part she just walked free. And they both turned in the guy who was making the lsd and their life easy. Like wtf? Way to be ungrateful.

>>11585861
Not the same anon.
Molybdenum dramatically changes the concentration of amino acids in plants, so it seems its used,though I don't umderstand how it works.
Google refuses to give up the link, I am sorry.

>>11587223
I reqlized years ago that psychedelics are rhe most liked by soulless people (google philosophical zombie) who revere psychedelics because they give them normal consciousness for a while. Yeah, you read right, that indescribable magic they're babbling about is just regular human consciousness.

>>11587514

not science

>>11587518
How is it not?

>>11560989
>>11572151
lmao that's the spirit.

>>11587514
I've heard people say that in regards to drugs in general. Like adderall, ritalin and such for example.
I do wonder this same thing myself, maybe I'm just not normal and can't feel/be normal and that I need drugs to become normal. There're too many things that are wrong with me, yet there're seemingly so many more things that are wrong with people and humanity in general, I'm just left confused and alone in this bottomless hole.
It would explain why people don't care about seemingly anything at all, besides their immediate needs and easily mislead/manipulated. They're just too happy to care.

this thread is killed by schizos

rip

>>11587607
like you? be careful fbi and cia is watching over you.

>>11587620
sorry buddy im not affected by your shithole country

>>11587637
and I'm not the one who sees boogeyman everywhere.

>>11587645
thats normal, anon. most mentally-ill people don't actually know they are sick and therefore cannot recognise other sick people.
dont worry tho, modern medicine is here to help you, there is nothing to be ashamed of, just hit up a psychiatrist!

130+IQ here. Took cubensis. 2g dry dose brought no visual hallucinations. best performance and learning dosages roughly between .8g and 1.5g. microdosing up to .8g is total performance boost without extra luggage. silicon valley style. think mad scientists having progress without dunning krueger. thats microdosing. lower fluid iq more fucked you will get if it is a bad trip. good trip will have little effect on your self evaluation and improvement. on high iq bad trips are less effective than good trips but you also have them less often. if you high iq going 2 to 5g doses you are in twilight zone. know what you are doing. above 5g is mk ultra tier processing

>>11587659
let's see your credentials or alma mater, as you must be a renown and accomplished neuroscientist/psychiatrist, as such to diagnose everyone with schizophrenia.
yet here I'm wondering if you're not the one with schizophrenia/paranoia. good luck with the treatment.

>>11587667
muh projecting


>>11587661
thats because Psilocybin has a linear strength scaling relative to the dosage you took.
this is not the case with lsd, you can have a full blown experience from just as small as 200uq.

check out the dosage calculator on shroomery for more info.

microdosing psychedelics sounds like a desperate effort towards self medication.
if you are having issues, you should seek professional help instead of experimenting on your own.

>>11587674
microdosing shrooms is best workplace booster. get out of the woods and visit any tech centre of a nation. psilocyn is not linear at all. teice the dose isnt twice the effect.

>>11587694

>>11587514
The alternative would be people with soul, but who are incapable of rational thought, drugs or otherwise. Cheap, mostly harmless psych supplements aren't a bad tradeoff

>>11559683

>>11571110
>Drinking alcohol

Low IQ moment

Fuck, schizos took this thread over

sci is NOT for sharing your drugged experiences, fuck off to reddit faggots

JANITORS GET TO WORK!

>>11559683

>>11576183
Here is a good video on the total synthesis of Lysergic Acid, the conversion of Lysergic Acid to LSD is a trivial transformation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40wbHWw9mvU

>>11577274
I'm just a novice so pardon me. But I think what one could do with LSA is to simply react it with a strong base, sodium hydride for example. And simply react it with a ethyl halide, doing the reaction twice. The problem would be the selectivity of the indole, as this would also react. It may be possible to use some sort of protecting group.

>>11559811
gottem

>>11568383
how much did you do? also what previous experience you had with the drugs? alcohol is a drug too so is caffeine.

>>11569068
nbomes get sold as legal lsd too. get the real derivates and it's going to be okay.

>>11574445
>LSD microdoses
in stressful environments they may help

read this blog, it's pretty good
>https://mad.science.blog/2019/12/19/dynorphin-theory/

>>11559813
I'm sorry but it's exactly the opposite.
I effortlessly ace every single IQ test /sci/ posts and psychedelics were the most mind-blowing, life changing thing I've ever experienced. I don't think I'll ever be the same since taking LSD, no other experience in my whole life comes even 0.001% close to the intensity and significance of LSD.

>>11567146
anon is obviously autistic, be kind to him

Can someone with a high IQ explain accurately the state of mind that I need to be to enjoy a trip?
Brainlets just say "you need to be in a good mood", but also say "they are good for depression", which doesn't make sense, a depressed person should have a terrible trip.
Also I'm never in a completely good mood, I'm always troubled by something in my life.

>>11591556

It's primarily about intent and mental state prior to the trip. For example did your dog die a few days earlier and you're still very upset about it? Is it gloomy and dark outside? Is it cold? Or is it a beautiful sunny day, you have some good friends you can trust with you, and you're somewhere with open spaces and an appealing environment. If you are in an unpleasant environment that will manifest in how pleasurable the trip is. Whether you aknowledge it or not where you are and what the weather is like plays a heavy role in how you're feeling. If you go into the experience with your mind open to the experience and the willingness to let the trip guide its own progression with a good environment around you it's a recipe for a good time. If you're going into a trip in a cramped dorm with a cop car parked within view of your window and a neighbor playing a shooter at Max volume so that you hear it through the walls on a gloomy day odds are you'll have a nightmarish trip. Whatever you do don't resist the drug once it kicks in, because you can't stop it - it's happening and the only thing that will end the trip are benzos or waiting; panicking over it will only serve to throw you into a dismal spiral of panic.


I hope this helps to answer your question anon.

>>11591591
I never really understand this set and setting bullshit. The place that I'm most comfortable is my bedroom I guess, or some other room in my house, its weird because it seems like it would be the obvious choice, but no one really mention it when giving advice, they often say in the nature or whatever. I have no friends that I really feel comfortable with, the few that I have I feel like they don't really give a shit about me so it would probably be a bad time to be around them while tripping. So I was planning in doing it alone, maybe with a happy/energetic playlist playing to make the setting less likely to send me into a bad spiral.

>>11591556

As someone who had their depression cured by psychedelics the thing that snapped me out of it while tripping was realizing that while my problems are huge to me I'd become locked into a mentality that I was incapable of overcoming them and that I was too weak to overcome them. The beautiful reality that surrounded me was literally clouded by my own insecurities and being able to see what everything looked like and being able to think from a different perspective (one brought on by the drug) allowed me to see that the dismal state of reality that I believed myself to be in was almost entirely something generated by my consciousness. After taking them try to confront your issues and don't hide from them. Look at them and think to yourself how significant is this really, especially in nature on a nice day. You'll find after the trip that the world is clearer. Colors are brighter, music is more beautiful, and you'll appreciate those little things which have always been there but you'd always taken for granted moreso. I wish you the best anon, hopefully it can help you like it helped me - saved me from making terrible mistakes these past few years.

>>11590512
>how much did you do?
200ug
>also what previous experience you had with the drugs? alcohol is a drug too so is caffeine.
Never consumed alcohol in my whole life, if I had any caffeine then it would be from tea which I drank 2-3 times a week for an average of 5 cups a week.

>>11591609
The thing you have to understand is that while your bedroom may be comfortable it may not be pleasant in that state. The mentality while on the drug is nearly impossible to describe or really even relate to without experiencing it firsthand. If every person who is experienced with this tells you something don't you think they may be onto something? It would be conceited to think otherwise. The synthetic lighting, the synthetic materials, the glow of a computer screen while in a normal state of mind may be all well and good, and it's natural to take solace in a place you're absolutely familiar with - but use it as a retreat to contemplate the results of the trip or if things get overwhelming outside. I'd recommend against using it as your base and staying there the majority of the time.

Things are not the same while on the drug. Those things you typically find comfortable will be different and confusing, and that could potentially terrify you when what you typically retreat to are no longer those comforts they were a while ago. Being in nature feels, well, natural. Take the advice of the people that have done it many times anon - it really is in your best interest, people that enjoy psychedelics aren't trying to get you to have a bad time. Why would they?

>>11559813
Bait.

>>11591622
how did you measure 200ug?
how do you know it was really lsd?

>>11591651

Only absolute brainlets don't test their product in advance. Spending the extra amount for a sample to test, and a test kit, is well worth it with the number of research chemicals scumbags try to pass off as genuine. Bunk police produce chemical test kits you can legally order online, typically about 20$ - I recommend the erowid test kit.

>>11591654
absolute brainlet, there is no such thing as LSD test kit, perhaps you meant indole indicator and the like

>>11591651
>how did you measure 200ug?
I took 2 pieces which were supposed to be 200 ug.
>how do you know it was really lsd?
It was actuaally 1P-LSD which I bought from a lab.

>>11591664
I realize that you gigabrainlet. Nothing is perfect but only analogues wouldn't be detected, which are still radically safer than research chemicals. But the point of the kit is to be as safe as possible and minimize risk, nothing is foolproof.

>>11591679
right, so you are ready to die from indole intoxication but not NBOME
typical schizo

>>11591692
This literally hasn't even been an issue for years, dunno why you're fearmongering. And even then when it was a problem the number of death's were in the dozens, do you have any idea how many people were tripping in that time frame and were totally fine? I encourage anyone that thinks you have a shred of credibility to do the research themselves to determine that the chance of that is incredibly low. It's like the chance of getting some prion disease by eating hunted meat. Possible, but extremely unlikely.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23839071/

>>11559714
You have no experience in this

>>11591701
i encourage you to kill yourself instead of telling others that its safe to consume unknown and blackmarketed chemicals you got from your dealer

>>11591120
>>11591556

>>11591715
T. Proven wrong and is very ubset

>>11591715
Relax fag its ok to take drugs otherwise they wouldnt exist
Jesus youre a sheltered crybaby tattle tale faggot who prob got bullied

>>11591721
>>11591722

>>11591727
Why didnt you reply to this image when I posted it LAST NIGHT FAGGOT

>>11591718
therapeutic value doesnt corelate to recreational usage, most schizos just get lucky a few times before they fall into a bad trip that gives them a one way ticket to psychiatry.
you cannot forecast what trip you'll end up with. if you have developed or underlying mental disorder(s), you are more prone to having a bad experience..
if you do not have those, you can make efforts towards having a good trip by the set/setting advice, but there is no guarantee...

if you really want to find out more, read into LSD psychotherapy by grof stanislav, those researches were made before LSD became illegal.

best of luck,

>>11591743
mom says i may not talk to schizos, sorry.

>>11591764
Agreed, family history plays a major role in the likelihood of having a potentially undiagnosed underlying condition. If you have a family history of mental disorders, particularly schizophrenia do NOT do psychedelics. The risks are absolutely not worth the reward in that scenario.

>>11591764
the blog includes some sources for tripping

>most schizos just get lucky a few times before they fall into a bad trip that gives them a one way ticket to psychiatry.

if you make the statistics of schizos in psychiatries then you are probably right. to have some sort of real overview we would need a system like they have for tv ratings for mental health problems. but there is none. the statistics we have are filled with people dropping the deep end.

>>11591764
>>11591778
also there is the problems of illegality of drugs. the quality of consumed substances interconnected with the subconscious stress of social repercussions and the interconnection of the wrong drug culture we have are all influences which fuel bad trips. it's more probable to drift in a bad mental state in their own basement dungeon than in a shamanic like nature oasis.

>>11591664
This anon is correct in that "test kits" only test for the presence of indole. You could easily mix any similar tryptamine like LSA with bullshit filler and a test kit would tell you LSD. It's nice to eliminate pure bullshit, but smarter scumbags would fool anyone with kits too and scurry off like the rats they are.

>>11585674
Scratching the MoS2 idea, is it possible to ethoxylate the nitrogen on the amide moiety of LSA?

>extract LSA from seeds using acetone
>filter, evap
>dissolve caked alkaloids in the closest to 200 proof anhydrous ethanol possible
>add absorbent solid that absorbs H2O (absorbate) but not EtOH or LSA and doesn't react with NaOH.
>Add NaOH, the equilibrium of the reaction:
NaOH + EtOH <-> Na(+)(-)OEt + H2O
>should lie far to the right side because of an excess of ethanol and very little H2O present as most being generated is being absorbed
>Is an ethoxide (alkoxide) anion a good enough nucleophile to attack the amide nitrogen based on the resonance structures of the amide? Could a diethoxyamide be produced? Would it be the same potency as diethylamine?

>>11591797
paranoia belongs to mental disorders
don't try to samefag me you moron

>>11591822
>don't try to samefag me you moron

what the fuck is your problem, i was adding some thoughts. why do you contribute in discussions if you won't read other posts?

It's about understanding the altered state of mind which honestly, really nobody can give that experience to you through words, you would never be able to emphasise, it's what I think when I get altered. It's sort of beyond comprehension when you do the experience. I guess sort of you have to brainwash yourself before, maybe from scientific standpoint in that you're going to be safe no matter what happens during the experience. You're not going to die, you're not going to go insane, everything that's happening will end and it will take time and in the mean time try to enjoy and not panic.
I guess that's what most people say, but it's really true, you have to take it in and appreciate it, no matter how bad it may get. Hopefully it won't be bad. What I'm trying to say is that you can get scared/start to panic, so you have to come back and remind yourself, that nothing bad is actually happening. I'm not saying this will happen, it's just in case it would. If you never done any drugs, then it's going to be something that you have never experienced, I would compare it to being born in a sense.
Imagine being a newborn and now your entire environment of darkness/warmth/and whatever else you feel in the womb is gone and now you feel air, coldness, loud noises, lights and many more things and it's all beyond scary to you, so all you can do is cry and scream, but nothing bad is actually happening. Sort of like that, just in this case you're not a newborn and you have a lot of knowledge given to you by other people around the world and what is happening in the universe, try to believe them.

>>11592108
Take your meds

>>11592108
this was meant for
>>11591556

>>11588697
>Fuck, schizos took this thread over
Is this your first lsd discussion lmao

>>11584960
It sure is. And psychedelics are at the forefront of consciousness and neurology research. Denying psychedelics as useful research tools is like denying biochemistry altogether.

>>11574445
I've smoked too much weed. This describes what happened to my brain.

>>11592597
This picture is funny
Whoever circled in red is a faggot

>>11592953
how new are you?

oh wait forgot this isn't /g/

>>11593681
Im been here since 2005? Facgot

bump

>>11559683
Anon, you might find drugs-forum.com a better community for such discussions, albeit being loaded with schizos, as far as i remember there were dedicated boards for various drug syntheses

that forum is highly moderated so you wont get schizos shitting over your thread like they do on this troll board

best of luck

>>11595000
samefag here, you will need an account + request access for the restricted boards

>>11568686

You space out on some high quality cid.

>>11593689
clearly you have failed the oldfag signal

>>11595000
take your meds

>>11596280
stop projecting

>>11591803
>Is an ethoxide (alkoxide) anion a good enough nucleophile to attack the amide nitrogen based on the resonance structures of the amide?

Can some chem anon shoot this down already so it doesn't distract me from learning organic chemistry? I can't prove the mechanism, but the curiosity of a diethoxyamide is driving me crazy.

>>11596280
stop taking your meds

>>11596573
As i said earlier, if you want others to help you, stop bothering with this troll board.
You need to register on drugs-forum.com and then prove that you know basic chemistry by posting an "essay" on the chemistry forum applications.
Once accepted, you will be granted access to the restricted drug-synthesis boards
do not try to plagarise, it WILL get you banned.
Follow the site rules or you will get banned

>>11596813
bros the universe is radiation

>>11597733
>>11596813
>>11596280
samefag

>>11596573
I think you would just end up hydrolysing the amide and obtain lysergic acid

>>11559813
I'm above 160 IQ and take LSD and shrooms once in a while. It looks like you're the brainlet.

Its just absolutely astounding how much misinformation there is on the internet. Its like only 2% of all statements online are true

>>11598595
GOOD MORNING!

>>11588152
i have so many morning glory vines behind my house i didnt know LSA was a thing

Its pointless to even hypothetically think you could make LSD unless you have huge quantities of a pure chemical feedstock. All this shit looks good on paper but how are you going to get enough material to work with, get experienced setting up the required transformations with your setup, and then how are you going to purify and analyze the product. If you don't have access to professional grade equipment you're a fool, basically. Maybe if you could recrystallize your bullshit crude mix a couple times I would consider thinking the product is worth anything, and that's beyond wishful thinking you'll pull that off. At that point you're what, molding over a metric fuckton of grain doing gigantic fucking extractions and purifications with water or solvent you can get from a hardware store? And you're then going to make either millions of dollars worth of LSD, or do an actual analysis of your pathetic quantity of product, or just take whatever your armature setup and lack of experience made? It's honestly just stupid to even talk about. If you care enough you may as well just study fundamentals and actually go work in a synthetic lab setting. But don't do that because even with equipment it is fucking terrible.

>>11601716
well obviously, but it sure beats iq threads

>>11562445
>Refer to wikipedia for a full explanation.

supposedly the purification steps are more challenging than the synthesis.

the basic chemistry isn't challenging and we literally had a lecture about it in beginner dumbfuck orgo. The challenge of practical chemistry usually isn't synthesis it's yield and purity of product. anybody who has even synthesized basic aspirin can tell you this.

what are the links between LSD and schizophrenia?

>>11559683

>>11603292
>>11559683


It's a feat of chemical engineering that requires prohibited equipment and ingredients

>>11605397

Took a tab yesterday it was pretty gay

>>11605397
>prohibited equipment
Such as?

>>11608540
well, how would you go acquiring a gas chromatograph to be able to analyse /separate your product?

>>11603730
>>11591764

>>11608623
Just do a quick taste

>>11608623
Ebay has 760 of them for sale. And this is prohibited??

>>11608865
well, now you'll only need a good, cheap NMR spectrometer

>>11608895
There are many other ways to verify what a substance is other than using expensive equipment like this. Think about solubility, melting point, reactions with other chemicals, etc. How do you think junkies are doing it in their kitchen? How do you think the police are testing for drugs when they search Jaytron and Trayvon's car?

>>11608895
Tons of universities have these as well as drug abusers.

>>11609076
>>11609035
retards.

obviously universities have it, and obviously you have never worked in a lab of an university otherwise you would not suggest it.

drug abusers only have their pants and dope, dont expect junkies to buy equipment worth of thousands when they can get the product from their dealers

and the few people that actually make it have proper laboratories under their hands. Some do it underground, others (like sandoz) have legal permit to synthetise it on their own, and a few grams gets documented as "waste product" every now and then, or so.

stop smoking pot and get a clue before running your whoremouths, faggots

>>11609112
Junkies don't give a shit about getting clinically pure dope, dumbass. It just needs to get them high. And producers don't give a shit for the same reason. If you would buy coke or meth or whatever there would still be precursor in it to some degree, but I don't hear you whining about that now do I? Its not as if some dude cooking meth gives a shit about getting it extemely pure lmao! And there are plenty of tests that are relatively inexpensive you can do to see if you have your product or not. Sounds to me you're just some undergrad smug retard that thinks he knows how the big boy world works just because of his one lab course where they talked about such instruments.

>>11609132

>>11609240
Nice retort :^)

>>11609132
>implying cooking meth is on par with synthetising lsd
have a nice feast on ergot, anon!

>>11563289
I did this for my birtbday last year. It was nice.

>>11609112
You have no idea what you are talking about.
https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/_breaking-bad_-kunne-vaert-tatt-fra-trondheim-1.11992229

>>11609132
One day you will get a high dose of NBOMe (or 2c-x) instead of lsd and die, like the clueless trashtalking schizo you are

>>11609352
hurr durr here is a case about a doctor getting busted doing it therefore im teh brain king!

>>11609132
Check your watch, its P.I.L.L.T.I.M.E.!

>>11609364
>>11609414
take your meds

>>11591556
Coming from someone with many years of experience using lsd and the highest score on all IQ-tests i ever taken i'm qualified to give you some useful tips i guess.

The psychedelic experience i'd say can definitely be scary but all the wonders of tripping totally weighs up for any negatives, actually all the negatives are mostly coming from you over analysing yourself, your mind, habits, life and surrounding. Which really isn't at all that negative since it gives you insight to change bad behaviour and unnecessary fear.

No one can really say what you need to prepare for a really good trip without knowing you very well, it's a super individual experience and once you peak you'll know exactly what to do.

Seriously i feel like i could write a book on this subject but i'll try to keep it short.

All you really need if you're afraid of taking it is 1mg xanax, seriously that'll remove even the most intense trip. Just don't mix any other drugs/medications. No weed, no alcohol, no ssri's, etc.

What'll you need for your set n setting are things that make you happy or interest you, lsd is kind of a stimulant so once you peak you wanna use that active brain. Download a few movies and set up a good music playlist.

Start the day by doing something productive, clean your apartment, cook a good healthy meal, preferably veggies, also do some workout like running or a long walk or whatever, just don't over do it because you don't want to get to exhausted.

If you have a good friend, like a really good friend you get along with well, that would be great for your first time doing acid.

1/2

>>11611232

2/2

Some things that you should avoid is using your phone too much, playing violent video games and looking into mirrors, because that can be scary for some, not me personally but the things you can see when starring into the mirror is really weird, like once i saw my face in complete xray and such.

But seriously just don't be afraid of anything, if fear comes then embrace it. I have had some of the worst possible set n setting (being sick, suffering from panic attacks etc) but really it made me stronger at the end of the day, and a better person. So no need to fear. Just pure bliss if you set you mind on it!

Hope it helps. LSD is really worth doing.

Turn on
Tune in
And drop out!

>>11611236
>>11611232
What if I just do it in some forest bringing only a watter bottle? I'm not very comfortable with being outside but I doubt my messy bedroom would be that much better of a setting.