/sci/ - Science & Math

So what is Ted actually claiming here? It's strongly worded in a way to convince a pseud that he's being profound, while also being too vague to actually refute.

What qualifies as independent thought? It really takes the sting off his attack when you realize pretty much every idea can be considered not sufficiently independent in some sense.

What are the System's values that they are unwilling to challenge?

>>11588596

>>11588596
>It's strongly worded in a way to convince a pseud that he's being profound, while also being too vague to actually refute.
This can be found in so many convincing arguments, and it's so easy to miss.
You are a smart anon.

>>11588596
i don't think this is meant to be a substantive critique. it's just saying everyone who doesn't see what i see is missing the real picture, which everyone believes about their worldview unless they tricked themselves into believing they're humble

>>11588596

It's probably just used by people who are mad at people who finished college.

>>11588596
"the intellectuals are the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group today" is a pretty strong claim by itself that can be refuted or accepted.

>>11588632
Ted was a professor you moron.

>>11588670

I'm not talking about Ted, I'm talking about pretentious idiots using this image as a means to convey an idea.

>>11588664
Any modern corporate PR person fits that description far better than a professor.
Is Chomsky spineless for continually criticizing America? Well he doesn't want to rebel in a violent manner so maybe that's what it all comes down to for Ted.

My concern is that if we actually knew what he truly meant with all those descriptive words 99% of people would just laugh in his face.
You don't want to undo all industrial progress? Spineless, domesticated, pampered shill!

>>11588628
If it's just an introductory passage where he sets the stage for a detailed critique then I guess that's ok. But then why are shitposters posting that paragraph as if it is has actual substance.

It's too vague to really make sense of. Calling professors domesticated and spineless can mean so many different things to different people. What would be a specific action these intellectuals do that makes them spineless to Ted? If it's that they don't violently revolt then I'm laughing in his face for being insane.

>>11588628
Oh yeah. And I agree with your reading. It's vague enough that everyone can assign their own personal meaning to, and then they get to agree with the daring smart rebel who says it as it is.
Of course, they probably don't know where he's really coming from. But they're happy to feel like they've gained insight by reading his boldly stated critique.

>>11588758
For ted I'm not sure there's any possible explanation other than he was just insane. No rational person would ever think they could actually accomplish anything by mailing bombs to innocent bystanders.
The real question is what do the people who love posting his quotes think they're saying? Ted would probably consider them spineless cowards for not being domestic terrorists. He would probably consider them worse than an academic for believing in his cause but not actually taking action.

>>11588813
They think they're edgy for quoting a terrorist, and smart for quoting a professor.

>>11588813
>He would probably consider them worse than an academic for believing in his cause but not actually taking action.
I think he doesn't scorn that position, but it's been awhile since I've read the manifesto.

>>11588758
This is the most cucked pseud comment I have read even on the most cucked pseud board on 4chan mate and that is really saying something

>>11588566
They lobotomized my boy. :'[

>>11588818
Lol @ your seething. Really hit close to home didn't it? You shouldn't make yourself so easy to read even on an anymous forum

>>11588566

Originality is overrated.

>>11589003
>Really hit close to home didn't it?
In what way? None of this thread has anything that even relates to me. Not sure why you think I'm seething either. Should probably take your meds, schitz.

>>11588566
why is this guy popular?

>>11589110
He's edgy and the anprims that unironically agree with him are all insane.

>>11588758
Journalcucks - Your life's research locked behind a privately owned paywall for the taxpayers to pay for twice.

he's saying to burn all science/math books and kill (preferably via homemade bombs) all science/math teachers

>>11589022
this is one of the truest things that nobody wants to admit
Whether out of fear of people's worldviews being damaged, or fear that people would take that as permission to never try to be original.

>>11589195
>he's saying to burn all science/math books and kill (preferably via homemade bombs) all science/math teachers

he's not wrong in his overall perception of what is the solution for people to actually be satisfied and happy.

he's wrong for thinking it's a problem that our progress leads to unhappiness, and that it needs to be solved.