/sci/ - Science & Math

Enjoy being on welfare.

Apparently acquiring social skills and losing your virginity costs 301K.

300k isn't even in the top 10% for mathematicians

>>1157961

>starting

ohlookitisthisthreadagain.jpg

>time to go back to school

>>1157957
for 300k you could by a hooker for a year

>>1157979

or a she male hooker for 3 years

or 3 she male hookers for 1 year

>>1157982
or a male she hooker for 3 years

or 3 male she hookers for 1 year

>>1157982

Enjoy being outcompeted by cheap chinks and dotheads.

>>1157997

>implying anyone can match my prowess as a doctor of mathematics educated at one of the finest educational institutions in the world.

>>1158009
Aren't you paraphrasing from a Pet Shop Boys song?

Do math because math is awesome. Not because of
the money.

>>1158009
LOL, mathematics is not what it was in the 1950s.

300k doing what?
math?

You can tell I'm educated, I studied at the Sorbonne
Doctored in mathematics, I could have been a don
I can program a computer, choose the perfect time
If you've got the inclination, I have got the crime

>>1158026

pretty sure it is bro

it's not like math changes, that's the whole point of math.

>>1157950

enjoyed being competed against mathlab

>>1158009
>implying that MBA assholes care about your education when they can save money by hiring brown people instead of you...

With a doctorate in math you're qualified to do just that MATH
People will not pay you 300k for you to sit and contemplate about abstract concepts
SAGE

>>1158051

>implying I would waste my time with the petty and arbitrary tasks that one with an MBA would spend their time on
>implying an MBA has any capability to handle the work that I do in my sleep.

>>1157950
>high school math teacher
>300k
>lolno

>>1158051
>implying employers would rather hire someone who majored in fucking liberal arts rather than something that actually takes some effort

>>1158054
Even if he does find an applied math job, he will have to be productive as fuck to compete with the cheapass currybreaths who, while retarded, are inexpensive, which is all the CEOs care about.

Enjoy your life teaching at a community college, OP.

>Get M.D. from Medical School
>Job anywhere I want within my specialty
>250-300k+ starting

The difference between my post and the OP's is that mine is real, OP is a troll who will be making 50k tops for his entire life.

ITT: stupidfags don't realize that people who understand math can work in any field, get paid more than the people that trained in that field, and are highly sought after by every type of industry.

>>1158079
Yeah. Doctors make fucking bank. A LOT of surgeons make 700k-1mill+

>>1158082
any field. lol. right, so a mathematician can be a pilot immediately!!!!!

>>1158079
If he can code, he might get some specialized job that pays better, but Ph.Ds are not good coders so he is a troll.
I hope he is one, for his own sake.

>>1158088

>he actually believes that

>>1158082
In what fantasy world are you living in little undergrad fag?

Math majors = code monkeys, teachers and maybe, MAYBE if they are REALLY good... actuaries.

>>1158082
Name one real fucking job that requires a doctorate in math
You can't
Now go fucking kill yourself you fucking troll

>>1158082
Name one industry where this applies, please.

>>1158091

protip: most top pilots in the Air Force, actual pilots who fly stealth bombers, are either mathematicians or engineers.

you want to try again ?

for the record:
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos043.htm

"Median annual wages of mathematicians were $95,150 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $71,430 and $119,480. The lowest 10 percent had earnings of less than $53,570, while the highest 10 percent earned more than $140,500.

In March 2009, the average annual salary in the Federal Government was $107,051 for mathematicians; $107,015 for mathematical statisticians; and $101,645 for cryptanalysts."

>>1158093
Lol.

Brain surgeons get paid 500k+ STARTING. The really good ones make upwards of 700k and then some. Surgeon life is not easy though. You basically can't expect to be a good father if you want to make that much.

>>1158103
HUURRR DURRR AIRFARCE PLIOTS IS LEET LIEK ME!!!!!!!!!

>>1158111

that's the best you can come up with after you get told ?

laughable

>>1158103
ah. nice source you're citing there. thanks for totally proving your statement. i now completely believe that all air force bomber pilots have PHD's in mathematics. oh wait. nope.

>>1158103
ITT delusional math majors

>>1158103
Do you have a .mil site link to prove that assertion?

>>1158121

yeah, you can do your own homework if you're capable

because i'm going to waste time looking for sources for some troll on 4chan for what I already know to be fact

so, go ahead, google it up son, i won't hold my breath waiting for you to report back that I'm right

:)

>>1158128
>>1158125
>>1158121
23:45
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>>1158082
>>1158103
>>1158129

>>1158129
burden of proof is on the person making outrageous claims. like it only takes a phd in mathematics to qualify to be a pilot.

>>1158137

i stand by my fact, if the truth bothers you so much that's your problem

hahaha

>>1158129
Name an industry where math Ph.Ds get 300k as a starting salary, please,

>>1158103
http://www.ehow.com/how_5637032_become-stealth-pilot.html
Sight why am I still browsing this troll infested shit hole

>>1158147

Financial

NEXT

>>1158121
You have to be an officer to be a pilot.
You have to have at least a bachelors to be an officer.
Most careers in the Air Force are science and engineering careers.

How can you believe in evolution if it is just a theory (a geuss)?

>>1158135
unfortunately i am not the other astute persons there whose bullshit meters also went off the charts because of this person's claim that he is qualified to pilot military aircraft because he has a phd in math.

>>1158151
Nothing about math majors or engineers mentioned, trollio.

>>1158168
>>1158151

>ehow

>>1158154
No businesses hire finance majors because they're actually fucking qualified and actually took the time to learn about it
>>1158158
>You have to have at least a bachelors to be an officer.
Okay
>Most careers in the Air Force are science and engineering careers.
Well if you want a scholarship you have to do engineering or physics. But those people do research not fly stealth aircraft. Also notice how I didn't say math

>>1158154
Prove it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
No pre-recession data either, please.

>>1158154
LOL

you will literally not get ANYWHERE near that much. You could make that much as an investment banker who has at least 2-5 years of experience, an MBA, and held a VP position and is looking for a new company.

>>1158183
>>1158181
>>1158176

Financial

NEXT

>>1158175
still waiting on you to post anything credible that says all you need to be a stealth bomber pilot is a phd in math. least they posted something to back up their claim. anyways, continue trolling.

>>1158193

>ehow

>>1158190
>>1158154
for the record:
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos043.htm

"Median annual wages of mathematicians were $95,150 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $71,430 and $119,480. The lowest 10 percent had earnings of less than $53,570, while the highest 10 percent earned more than $140,500.

In March 2009, the average annual salary in the Federal Government was $107,051 for mathematicians; $107,015 for mathematical statisticians; and $101,645 for cryptanalysts."

>>1158183
ITT math major who thinks Wall Street is still hiring math twats after the recession...

>>1158176
>But those people do research not fly stealth aircraft
No they fucking don't
>>1158190
Listen up mathfags and listen once
Finance is not fucking deterministic
You will not use number theory, topology or any of that shit
And if you want to work in finance then you should be fucking majoring in Finance
Why the fuck would you major in math if you want to do finance?!
Also 7/10
fucking troll

so many math majors are gonna be surprised (not the good kind of) when they graduate.

lmao

>>1158205

>he thinks finance isn't math
>he thinks people who study finance know more about math than people who study math

Bullshiznit
I work with people who did their postdoctoral work at caltech. Starting salary of 300k is a fantasy.

Maybe in the heyday of financial markets, not now.

cant believe people still fuckin reply to this troll. hes been doing this for ages. before it was 100k.
I remember when you'd get banned fo this shit

>>1158219
Dumb faggot. The most math you'll use in finance is fucking college algebra and maybe a little calculus.

>>1158205
You realize that life after college requires money... Finance is where a lot of money is.

>>1158219
I said it once and I'll say it again
Finance is not fucking deterministic
You can only make educated guesses on where to invest
And if you haven't studied about the market for 4 years chances are you'll have to catch up if you want to even consider it

This is like a freakin carbon copy of the same thread from last week and nobody noticed?

What puzzles me more is despite the obvious troll-rush-fix rational--WHY? WHY? Is this an experiment of some sort, sort of a training excercise for more sophisticated trolling in the future?

>>1158234
The reason there are rich people in finance is because they are unwilling to share their wealth with those who are not part of their skull and bones fraternity.
Nigger, you is trolling.

>>1158238

and you wonder why you don't have a job and you spend all day on 4chan

lol stupid stupid math illiterates

P

>>1158219
i think the implication there was that people in FINANCE know more about FINANCE than math majors. carry on dr. troll.

>>1158254
Like you work in finance
Also stocks are only good for long term investment
The whole day trader thing is all bullshit and is a fancy word for gambling

>>1158247
It is that we believe there is a one percent chance this guy is not a troll and is actually that stupid.
Therefore we must correct for he is wrong.
It's like that XDCD cartoon where somebody cannot sleep because someone on the Internet is wrong.

ITT: FUCKING TROLLED

>>1158248
No, the higher levels of a corporation or firm are like a fraternity, but these people still need talented people to work as quants so their firm can make money. A decent quant can make 200k, that's not extraordinary. A good trader can make more than that. The partners of the large trading houses make much more.

>>1158272
You're aware that economists can describe gambles with math, right? Actually, you can describe the best possible option given a gamble with math too.

Also, no, mathfags could not enter finance without some kind of financial training.

I swear to god
This will be the last time we will see this fucking thread
Next time I see it I will sagebomb it to shits

>>1158280
hi op

>>1158283
But you are neither a quant nor a trader and, no, they won't make you partner either. See skull and bones fraternity as to why.

This thread has brought me much joy! Desu desu!

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>>1158297
Uh ok

>>1158351
Are a quant?
Because you don't look like wizard to me.

>>1158297

Not to mention that I've never heard of anyone - university aside, who has been offered partnership right out of school.

Here's the reality from someone who actually is about to finish a PhD and head to Wall Street. There is still demand for mathematicians with strong backgrounds in fluid dynamics, numerical PDE's, or stochastics. The real place of growth, though, is in algorithmic trading whose PhD's tend to come more from CS.

A good entry point for a PhD would be at the VP level where he could plan on a starting salary of around $120,000 + bonus. At some firms the first year bonus guarantee can be as high as $30,000 and of course there is not ceiling. PhD's can also come in as level 2 or 3 analysts, but they'll make $20-30,000 less.

Outside of the banks, salaries are more variable. Some hedge funds might bring you in with total compensation closer to $200,000 but it would all be back loaded in the bonus.

A string candidate would have the aforementioned math background, good knowledge of C++, VB, and Matlab. Networking helps. Their day to day job would be about ten hours of coding pricing models and taking abuse from traders. That's in the front office. Back office quants would have better hours and less stress but the bonus potentials are not nearly as high.