/sci/ - Science & Math

No-hair theorem says yes.

>>11569703
It will be like tossing a steak in a neighborhood of feral dogs.

>>11569703
Gravitational force, while weak in out solar system, overrides all e.m forces when in grand concentration.

>>11569703

>current year
>still believing in black holes
The absolute state of OP.
Very, very, very SAD.

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>>11569729
Gravity is weak everywhere. On Earth and on the universal scale. Reminder that gravity is 1000 billion billion billion billion times weaker than the dominant force in the universe - the electric force.

>>11569807
YouTube isn't a source, schizo.

>>11569821
You're right, videos aren't sources, they're a medium to present information. Sources are given in the videos and below them.

>>11569807
>wall-of-text schizo
errytime

>>11569868

>>11569893
>eu research center logo

>>11569703
I'm not sure, could the particles that transmit the force - photons - even escape the gravitational attraction?

>>11570530
Yes, they escape if they can accelerate up to escape velocity.

>>11570530
Black holes have mass, angular momentum and charge, though net charge is generally gonna be tiny.

>>11570552
But how do they have charge? How do carrier particles escape them? And how do you model the charge distribution? Is it spherically symmetric about the center of the black hole, even if I only toss in electrons from the left?

Think about from light cones. Once the electron cross the event horizon, nothing outside the black hole is in its light cone. So how can it still influence things outside the black hole?

>>11570709
From your outside POV it will be forever at the horizon

>>11570538
You do realize that the whole point of Black holes is that their escape velocity is bigger than the speed of light?

>>11569807
>my favorite youtuber made a science video! I will now internalize this as science

>>11569703
A black hole has three degrees of freedom. Mass, spin, and charge.
A black hole you feed charged particles too will pick up that charge, which means it will repel like charges and attract opposite charged particles until it neutralizes so in reality you're probably not going to find one in the wild.

>>11569807
What now, an electric universe brainlet?

>>11569807
Electric Universe has been falsified, Relativity has held up to all testing.

Seems like someone on ResearchGate had a similar question: https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_can_we_measure_if_a_black_hole_is_electrically_charged_or_not

I think the answer by Andrew Worsley is correct, a black hole should have an electric charge and thereby the virtual photons must be able to escape the gravitational field. He concludes that there must be problems with the equations of general relativity.

>>11569703
Yes, but Hawking radiation will very quickly neutralize electric charge in Black Holes.

>>11571505
>Hawking radiation neutralizes electric charge
wait, what? really?

>>11570391

> >eu research center logo

>>11571505
>>11571574
Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2A4qXJQjc

>>11571104
>making straight up pure lies
I guess you're a Jew.

https://files.catbox.moe/b3aur6.pdf

Relativity has completely collapsed.

>>11571021
Videos aren't sources, they're a medium to present information, in this case factual truths. You can't handle any of the factual truths, so you desperately attack the medium. Sources are given in the videos and below them.

>>11570713
And this is why black holes are clearly impossible unless they've existed since the inception of the universe. An outside observer would require an infinite amount of time to pass before one formed.

>>11571652
I am half-jew, and there is no shame in that.
Relativity has held up to all scrutiny, electric universe is trivially falsified by the fact that we do not see electrons flowing into the sun which is what the theory predicts.

>>11571668
>i have jewish blood
Ah, knew it.

>we do not see electrons flowing into the sun
Completely debunked, been shown time and time again that the sun is externally charged by Birkeland currents flowing into it. Playlist about the Sun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkt7r_nmqWw&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UdAwCXUCvl23_5DOjGMPq7d

>theory
There's no theory.

>>11569703
Yes, blackholes have a charge. Charging up a black hole would be prime way to control it's movement if suitably small black hole was found or created.

For the lurkers here who wish to learn about Birkeland currents and how they work:

https://www.tau.ac.il/~colin/courses/AtmosElec/Potemra%20ASS%20144.pdf

http://www.ptep-online.com/2015/PP-41-13.PDF

http://www.ptep-online.com/2018/PP-53-01.PDF

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/2016JA023789

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251427744_Antisunward_net_Birkeland_current_system_deduced_from_the_Oersted_satellite_observation

https://www.ann-geophys.net/26/499/2008/angeo-26-499-2008.pdf

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOAAJ/TOAAJ-4-191.pdf

https://backend.orbit.dtu.dk/ws/files/150063011/Laundal_et_al_2018_Journal_of_Geophysical_Research_3A_Space_Physics.pdf

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a109/a643e309fa57d6c3146a753e0b817ae2f374.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268156738_The_magnitudes_of_the_regions_1_and_2_Birkeland_currents_observed_by_AMPERE_and_their_role_in_solar_wind-magnetosphere-ionosphere_coupling

https://opensky.ucar.edu/islandora/object/articles:16940/datastream/PDF/view

http://www.issibern.ch/teams/fieldaligncurrents/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ISSI_FACs_2014.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA&t=134s

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject/search?query=birkeland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZTGh35kioQ&list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeKWHRrCw4i-KviQnAhQhBM

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeKWHRrCw4i-KviQnAhQhBM

Understand Birkeland currents and you understand basically how the whole universe works, from the planetary and star level up to the galactic and inter-galactic level. It's truly amazing to have the knowledge.

>>11570713
Thats not true. The horizon is a coordinate singularity, not a physical singularity. Things will cross the event horizon from our perspective in finite time.

>>11571033
I get that, but I'm asking by what mechanism it acquires charge. Imagine a proton and electron on opposite sides of a black hole. The proton feels some small amount of the electrons charge. Now push the electron into the black hole. Does the black hole suddenly gain a -1 charge at its center as soon as the electron crosses the event horizon? Then the force felt on the proton outside the blackhole is discontinuous.

>>11571733
You mean because I didn't take evaporation into account and was thinking of an infinite black hole?

>>11569729
It's weak everywhere. Gravity isn't stronger in a black hole, it's just that there's a fucking magnificent amount of matter in it.

>>11571718
this has to be a new kind of tinfoil

>>11572454
Charge is weaker than gravity everywhere. It's just that there's a fucking magnificent^2 amount of charge in, say, an electron.

>>11572542
>Electric Universe
>new
Welcome back, when did you leave the board?

>>11569703
Have you ever punched holes in space with a man on a wheelchair? It's amazing experience. How can hole in space have a charge?

Yes-hair theorem says no.

>>11569703

>current year
>still believing in black holes
The absolute state of OP.
Very, very, very SAD.

https://files.catbox.moe/b3aur6.pdf

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https://youtu.be/Iz8RRN8rY00

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>>11569729
Gravity is weak everywhere. On Earth and on the universal scale. Reminder that gravity is 1000 billion billion billion billion times weaker than the dominant force in the universe - the electric force.

>>11571746
The charges on a black hole don’t live at its center