/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11547278
Just get your brain some mind augmentations.

>>11547278
That's why we have AI

>>11547278
Nothing is too difficult anon. Especially if we work together

>>11547305
This desu

>>11547311
>yeah uh our university is really leading in analytic number theory, our machines are churning 24/7 and proving multiple important theorems a week
>even the leading human mathematicians in the subfields coulnd't hope to understand even a fraction of what our machines have proved but we're getting grant money sooo...
bugman.

>>11547440
It's a like maths print out paper that makes others print money. It's the perfect con!

>>11547278
That's why we have chinese

>>11547278
A good thing. The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. All we have to do is destroy AI and we can finally be free from any further technological hellscape.

>>11547456
Us humans have never escaped perpetual hellscape. If there is life, there will be hell.

>>11547459
This is such a strange memory you needed me to store. What is this message for?

>>11547278
brainlet claim, we don't know shit about most things in science and engineering progress is not linear, you are drastically overestimating humanity's knowledge and discoveries

>>11547459
There are differing qualities of hellscape.

>>11547456
>>11547459
>no alarm clock shocking you awake
>no having to eat, shit, shower and shave in 20 mins
>no fuckton of emails you got overnight you have to answer before you can even start your day
>no HR bitch performance evaluation bullshit
>no new flavor of the month software framework
>no leftists, no cape shit, no onions wars

>>11547534
>>11547456

>>11547278
Not just the human brain, we are rapidly getting to the point where all the important problems are not computable in poly time which means even an artificial super intelligence will not be capable of helping solve the problems either.
>>11547456
There's no point because AI isn't going to be as powerful as people hope.
>>11547621
Ignorant fantasy,not actually possible in reality

>>11547278
>tfw you understand that cs alleviates this problem

>>11547456
>we can finally be free
too late, climate collapse is locked in

>>11547621
Except irl levant sandniggers easily destroy modern militaries and in any case moore's law has been failing for a while now.

>>11547628
>There's no point because AI isn't going to be as powerful as people hope.
I strongly suspect this too. No one's ever been able to explain how it will make the jump from simply a sensory thing that regurgitates what "seems" like a good answer to stimuli (think of a really good chatbot) to a rational entity that can reflect on its own existence and develop its own will. People usually just say it will happen as some natural progression. But even with really good computers you still have to come up with some magic software to do as such. I have no reason to believe AGI is possible.

>>11547631
Preferable. Human population will finally drop to a more sustainable level. Not that I believe in man-made climate change.

>>11547673
I'm not even denying AGI is possibly I completely believe we'll have it within 30 years, I'm saying that it won't actually be able to help us as anyway.

>>11547691
>it won't actually be able to help us as anyway
Why?

>>11547768
Because the relevant problems of the next aeon for humanity are not solvable in time frames that matter.
The reason we don't see aliens or space empires and such isn't that they don't exist, it's because there is an upper bound for intelligence and technological advancement that the laws of physics and computation are bounded by, and it is far lower than singularity people hope it is.
A super intelligence with the computational power of a whole galaxy still wouldn't be able to solve these problems. Heuristics do not work for problems like protein folding or mind uploading where even the change in a single subatomic particle or a single different atom completely changes everything about the object being analyzed. It requires exact solutions which are not solvable.

>>11547456
OK kazynski

>>11547278
It reminds me of an old classical mechanic textbook that I read, where it talked about how it used to be a post grad subject but is now relegated to 2nd year undergraduate.

I also read some of Newton and other older mathematicians proofs and it's clear they had a far better intuitive understanding of geometry than people these days, because that's how they did everything. We are approaching the point where there's just so many theories to learn that not many get such a thorough understand of topics. They breeze past them do they can start on the next hurdle immediately.

>>11547783
For aliens or space empires to be possible, there'd have to be a reliable way to send ships through the interstellar void. There probably isn't.
No matter how much thought and knowledge you'd put into the technologies and the engineering of such a vessel, small, random chance of failures and accidents over large enough timescales will fuck up anything you can prepare. And you can only throw so much redundancy into your design until it becomes impractical.

>>11547470
It's likely that we both 1) know very little and 2) won't learn much more due to our limitations.

>>11547278
OK zoomer

>>11547820
Sure there is. Humanity launched a steel plate out of the solar system by accident during a nuclear test.
If one were so inclined and had the money and resources you could use an orion drive to spread between local stars then build solar collectors to launch and receive payloads between.
Sure there are risks involved and potential for catostrophic failure but that becomes mitigated with familiarity and experience as well as the upgrades you get from practical application.