/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11546618
they follow the money to see what your passion is

>>11546618
Money is the single most important thing in life.

>>11546618
i wanted to be mathematician, but became chemist because of better work perspectives.

>>11546649

Current events prove you for the dunce that you are.

>>11546692
Yeah good thing the unemployment and suicide rates aren't correlated at all. What a relief.

>>11546618
If I really did want to chase my passion, I would choose to study pure economics with a mathematical base. But an economics degree has no value in my country so I study engineering instead.

>>11546777
Third world country*

>>11546766

You only showed men. Continue being a dunce.

>>11546618
CREAM I just got my internship cancelled, corona-Chan created a hungry killer bois

>>11546618
go for your most crazy goals first, you’ll be happiest just trying your best anyway. hopefully your crazy goals involve money, but for many here it does not. here we fetishize slaving away at what we call ‘higher ideals’ for mere peanuts. it’s almost frowned upon to make money here, the ideal lifestyle is like that Russian mathematician who turned down $1mil for solving a millennium problem only to live in his moms rat infested apartment.

I like to think every /sci/ anons ideal trajectory is PhD research leading to some crazy industry applications that leads one into being lead researcher at their own prestigious company.

luckily for me I have a safety net for myself consisting of a couple small (product orientated) businesses, with my first SaaS releasing probably sometime next month, hopefully followed by more. Each project is very small time stuff, I probably make less than you, but it pays the bills and allows me a ton of freetime and freedom, which I’m happy with. I just hate having a McJob. I hope to be a research mathematician here soon, but if that fails I’ll try and pivot into software development since I have doing that anyway.

>>11546618
Followed my passion before I knew it paid well, got bored once it wasn't paying enough

>>11546618
I say go for your passion if no more than 1-5 people out of an average group of 200 have the same passion or you have an objective judgement on your talent within it.
I lucked out in following mine because it's extremely autistic and barely anybody would even think of it because of that I had almost no competition and inherent value just by existing. I also come from a well off family so just knowing worse case scenario I won't be homeless helped much. Something like becoming a famous musician or NASA engineer when you're not very wealthy you better be a genius or know people already otherwise choose something else

>>11546618
neither, i chase longevity and an automated life. so i guess money would be the way to get there but it isn't the terminal goal.

i'm doing medicine in a euro country so it's basically charity

>>11546618
It's a mix of the two at this point. When I started studying mathematics my dream really was to just go all the way and become a pure mathematics professor. After all, I picked that degree because I liked math and it seemed like a no-brainer to go down a path where I'd be doing math as my job. But slowly it hit me:

>Being a professor is quite shitty. The name of the game is publish or perish and I witnessed examples of people publishing shit they didn't care about just because # of publications is one of the variables that universities look at for deciding who gets a promotion
>Beyond their retarded method for giving promotions, universities are some of the most retarded bureaucracies that exist.
>Just to get to the point where you can work for the retards you must essentially set your economic life back by 4-8 years (Ph.D.) as even if you get paid to study that money is less of an income and more of an allowance
>Even after that it is well known that college professors earn much less than they would in industry for the same qualifications

In short, working for a university seems like hell but I accept that there is a monetary component there as well. I'm sure if universities were shit but they paid a guaranteed 150k for all their math professors then I would not be writing this post. Luckily for me as a student I did find a tangential interest in the world of finance.On one hand the appeal is that by allocating (or removing) money somewhere you will actually see things change and you will essentially see mathematical truths emerge in the real world like clockwork. On the other hand is how the business models of financial institutions seem to just be mathematical formulas. I know he is a meme but Wildberger recently made an amazing video in which he shows how credit turns an infinite process into an immediate result. But then there's the more sophisticated stuff like market-making and arbitrage.

So I ended up in finance, banking specifically.

>>11546914

Then it was never your passion to begin with.

>>11546830

I pity all young people who feel themselves obliged to undertake an internship of any kind, and count myself very fortunate that I graduated from college without having been obliged by the degree requirements to undertake an internship, an idiocy which was imposed upon later classes. The reason why this is idiotic is because the point of education never has been, is not now, and never will be, because it can never possibly, actually be, to make money. The point of education is to learn things. The rest is an ecnomic delusion under which all dunces labour.

>>11546982
What’s the best path if your passion is learning theory and researching, but you have 0 interest in being a professor?

>>11547006
Well, the first question you need to answer is how will you survive?

>>11547017
I already have that part figured out, so that’s a non-issue.

>>11547031
Then just do it. You will still want a Ph.D. for the recognition and to have professional guidance on your first research project and then you can just keep researching on your own.

>>11547041
sounds comfy thx boss, I guess I’m just at a point where I’m looking for a career not just a hobby, can I do that as a full time researcher without being a god-tier mathematician?

>>11546766
That's because you stop having a job when you kill yourself, duh.

>>11546618
I'm at 30, have been following my passion and will continue to do so for a two years, then switch to money. When enough money is made, real estate acquired etc, back to passion.

>>11547052

The way of the dunce.

>>11546618
I personally think the goal to strive for someone in the empirical sciences is to produce tangible results. Money may not be everything and you can certainly (and many people do) sell absolute turds, but if what you do cannot be exchanged for monetary value whatsoever then you should consider what even makes your science different from mental masturbation.

If you're a mathematician you probably enjoy jacking off for the rest of your life on a page anyways so who cares what other people think lol

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>>11546637

What are your careers right now, or what have they been in the money-chasing phases? One of my professors used to work as a chemical engineer / process engineer and finished at $200k a year, though the median income for chemical engineers is apparently $90k ish. What have you done and how much have you made?

"passion" is what they want you to pursue so at 45 youre still a barista manchild with a passion for photography. A real man recognizes money is the scoring system of life.

Get an education, marry a white girl, get kids, get money is the way of the true /sci/entist

>>11547120
wealthy men have passion for what they do

>>11546618
I don't really have a passion so I just decided to either study Chemistry, Nuclear Physics or Microbiology and went with Chemistry.

>>11546618
Right now, I'm chasing the money out of sheer necessity. I will do that until I make enough to no longer chase the money. If I still have any life in me after that, maybe I've chase my passions?

>>11546929
What's your job anon? Sounds pretty niche

Both, as I like math, but also never had a lot of money, so I want to see how it is to make a lot of money (compared to my family)
I don't know if I'll succeed, but I'll try and learn some math in the process

>>11547090
I'm the guy working in banking. I make 70k right now but I've been working for less than a year. The people directly above me make twice as me and the person above that makes like 5 times what I make so there are good prospects if I survive.

>>11547813
What specifically in banking? Or could you point us towards roles that would be open to theoretical autists who want to switch?

>>11546649
Life is money. Death is passion.

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>>11547967
/thread >>>/biz/

>>11546618
Wanted to be a mathematician, tried it, found out I couldn't do it and dropped out. Now I work as a programmer in the third world making pennies, with the promise I'll make it to the big boys at the company I work for.
I'm still studying "some" math on the side at my own pace, but all it does is make me feel like trash because I failed at uni. Wish I could reboot life. If someday we get any proof of afterlife, I'll kms immediately.

>>11546618
Work is just a means to an end for me, if I had infinity money I'd just build a personal library and spend the rest of my life reading and taking naps in overstuffed leather chairs.
Take breaks to putz around in the garden.

>>11548011
Thank you. We are all now more enlightened by your /sci/ - Science & Math.

>>11547913
I'm in operations. Though I'm probably better suited for a risk type role, I'm enjoying the position as I'm getting exposure to basically every single department and I have my hand everywhere from analyzing groups of credit cards at risk of default to providing support for huge transactions between large corporations.

That said, this is probably not that much interesting for an autist unless you care about how money moves around. In finance, the best positions for someone interested in math are quant trading and risk management.

>>11548011
>tried it
by this, do you mean you went in for a phd program or postdoc, or that you didn't even get through undergrad?