/sci/ - Science & Math

>If we're being more open minded about accepting new weird ideas
What is he referring to exactly here?

Stopping aging and even death itself should be the focus, and many miss this. But in order to solve that problem we also have to stop breeding like rabbits, or earth will be overpopulated before long, and at this rate, before we even colonize other planets/moons/planetoids.

TL;DR stopping age and death should be the endgame goal for all science.

>>11516002
I wouldn't want to live forever to be honest. An extended healthy and mobile lifespan, sure. But eventually I feel like I'd want to settle down and go.

>>11516064
But the more people we have the more geniuses we get. Radically reducing the population could slow progress.

>>11516052
Probably the new queer sexual revolution, among other things.

>>11516002
Basically all educated people are on board with anti-aging and uploading to varying degrees. Some are more skeptical than others, but the big money and political forces already move this way. American media has been shifting the general population towards accepting these changes recently, but it will take time.

>>11516002
why should we stop aging ? (I think it is interesting to understand the mechanism)

>>11516658
Health is a human right (or at least something the rich should be able to pay for) and physical aging violates that. Senility is below human dignity and should be cured. We lose so many amazing people to it every year.

>>11516596
>But eventually I feel like I'd want to settle down and go.

Why? What could ever poses a person to actually be fine with this? You do realize that death is the end, right? You do have a small grasp of what that means, right? You cease to exist. You go to nothing. You can't even properly imagine "nothing", yet that's what happens.

Why on fucking earth would you ever want that?

>>11516064
>in order to solve that problem we also have to stop breeding like rabbits
Mayhaps
The current methods to do that suck though.
It's just guilting high IQ populations (Euros and Anglos) into not having children, plus providing contraception (that only conscientious people use.)

>>11516651
hahahaha uploading

yeah the age of em is coming, well before your funeral. freezing your brain will save you from oblivion, now go to sleep

holy fucking shit what is it with you fucking retards and the anti-aging shit what fucking fantasy world do you live in where the fuck are you even gonna start to stop aging is the process even understood? it's trillions and trillions and trillions of individual cells being born and dying in a fucking instant for 50-100 years holy fuck holy dear fucking god what the fuck are you people even saying jesus fucking christ

>>11516871
>>11516857
Calm your tits dude. These science fiction goals are both desirable and have the immediate social effect of organizing society around common productive goals that can benefit us all. We didn't need to colonize the moon by the year 1980 for early 20th century science fiction to have a profound positive effect on society. Some of the kids who grew up dreaming of sending people to space actually did just that.

>>11517114
>Calm your tits dude.
i won't. god designed me to be in a permanent state of anxiety. shit has to fucking happen now, there is no fucking time to waste. once a-fucking-gain, how the fuck does aging work? what is it about trillions of cells dying and being created in a single instant however many fucking times a day for 50-100 years that causes aging? how does aging work?

>>11516871
>implying we don't already have a few incredible methods to reverse aging.
If there were no moral objections you could fill yourself with stem cells and blood from younger people and you'd be able to live another 50 probably. There are plants and animals some close to us which do not age. We can cure and treat thousands of diseases. Just requires more research.

Numbnuts

>>11517123
now we're fuckin talking.

>>11517123
>There are plants and animals some close to us which do not age.

One avenue for already-living people is gene therapy to make us more similar to these organisms. Mole rats are a prime candidate. More controversially there's the genetic engineering of children, but that's both more dangerous and difficult.

>>11516002
Life is valuable like other things because it is scarce. He is arguing to make life literally worthless. A nihilist's dream.

>>11517137
People living 1000 years instead of 100 doesn't make life any less valuable. It actually increases the value each person has because a healthy and productive 500 year old would have an insane amount of knowledge and skill. From a purely economic perspective I'd rather lose a 20 year old with no skills than someone godlike.

>>11517137
I agree, lets reduce our lifespan.

>>11517202
You first, I need to see how it's done.

>>11516797
You don't know that death is the end, nor I that it is not. We have only our beliefs.

>>11517306
Religion vs. science isn't allowed on /sci/.

>>11516871
>>11516844
Age is just a biological function, and so far as we know, we can alter biological functions just fine. We just need to commit to it, see it grow, and use it to enrich life itself. There is no benefit to age other than the knowledge gained, though some will argue that seniority is more important to society (but these are typically people that are already old and half in the grave to begin with.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. We imagined flying cars, we have flying cars, though they will never be popular or mass produced due to their fundamental flaws.

We imagined holoscreens and wearable and portable smart tech- we now have it.

As humanity stands, so long as we commit to something, we can make it happen, with enough research, momentum, and commitment.

Hell, we have serviceable robot "companions." Do you really think there is anything we cannot do with science?

>>11516002
>donated to aubrey de fraud

I thought he was a genius

>>11517147
>It actually increases the value each person has because a healthy and productive 500 year old would have an insane amount of knowledge and skill.

More likely it would literally make everyone expendable.
Being able to halt aging requires such a huge and profound understanding of the tiniest details of physiology, that by the time we've reached it, we've probably also figured out the concept of neural uplinks and pumping a lifetime of acquired skill and knowledge into a fresh pumpkin's noggin.

>>11516002
based

>>11516002
It's unlikely to be done within my lifetime so I don't care.

>make a pill that makes your body younger and extends life by 10 years
>25 year old fresh out of school tries to find job
>sorry we're looking for someone with 150 years of experience

Help someone plz

If we place a book of mass 8kg on a spring with spring constant 1200 k , what's the maximum distance that the spring compresses ?

>>11518670
1 cm per kg book.

>>11516002
Open-ended futility. He might as well ask to end crime or war.

>>11517322
It’s not religion vs science. Science does not have a post-death model that is widely accepted. There is no Theory of Death comparable to general relativity or gravitation or quantum mechanics. I’m saying this as an agnostic who wouldn’t mind a significantly lengthened lifespan, but the idea that there is no afterlife is not a “scientific” idea in any meaningful sense. You can experimentally interact with it any more than you can experimentally interact with a hypothetical God.

what is the problem with dying?
sooner or later it will happen

>>11518661
You won't get out of school until you're 50 in that world.

>>11516596
>But eventually I feel like I'd want to settle down and go.

Beta male. I could explore planets for a trillion years.

>>11518794
>what is the problem with dying?

You can’t enjoy life if you’re dead.

> sooner or later it will happen

Later rather than sooner is good. If “later” means nineteen million years, that’s great.

>>11517306
>You don't know that death is the end

Please learn the basics of neuroscience. Thought can not exist without a living brain.

>>11516052
gays in russia

>>11517114
>desirable
Not everyone wants to live forever stuck in a fragile flesh bag prone to pain.

>>11518864
>Not everyone wants to live forever stuck in a fragile flesh bag prone to pain.

Remove the ability to feel pain.
I haven’t experienced serious pain since I sprained by ankle at age twelve. It’s a total non-issue in comparison to all the pleasure there is to feel.

>>11518864
aging is the worst pain there is to experience.

>>11516871
>it's trillions and trillions and trillions of atoms in a car, how can we understand how to maintain it hurp durp?

>>11516871
Can you please get the cum out of your mouth so we can understand you better?

>>11517271
Just follow this useful infograph

>>11516002
So does anti aging mean immortality in this case? Because if that is what he is applying he’s retarded.

>>11516064
Why not just sterilize everybody and enter into some kind of incel utopia. Have sex incel.

>>11516797
You sound like you are 13. As you get older you will understand. You are saying this because death scares you. Quit being a faggot.

>>11518965
>As you get older you will want to die lol

Okay beta male. Other people actually enjoy existing. Go blow your head off with a shotgun.

>>11517147
Not you anon, you would just live 1000 years in your basement jacking off to Loli porn.

>>11518870
We aren’t talking about sprained ankles here brainlet

>>11518975
I’m sure there’s worse pains but just get over it lol
Take painkillers or something, or get your dick sucked

>>11518968
No death doesn’t scare me so I don’t fear it

>>11518984
>I don’t fear life ceasing

This is only possible if you don’t enjoy life.

A beta
>>11518968
Calling an alpha
>>11518984
A beta
Priceless

>>11518997
Nah man you enjoy life more if you aren’t afraid to die. You need to go to bed, you have to skype homeroom tomorrow morning.

>>11519005
>Nah man you enjoy life more if you aren’t afraid to die

Not possible, sorry. Keep coping about your depressing life.

>>11519018
I don’t think I’m the one with the depressing life anon.

>>11518965
>>11518984
imagine pretending/convincing yourself you aren't scared of death. imagine not being able to be empathetic and put yourself in the shoes of other peoples thought processes. stop trying to act so alpha and be honest with yourself lol.

>>11519022
Hey anon I don’t think less of you for fearing death. Don’t put words in mouth.

>>11518968
>other people enjoy existing
Parasites. Worthless parasites enjoy existing. The millions of unhappy people that society relies on get tired after a while, especially when the misfortune piles on.

>>11519022
Why do you give two shits about me not fearing death? Are you so afraid of dying that you have to convince yourself I must be pretending to satisfy your own feelings of inadequacy?

>>11519022
You’re a pussy. Hopefully someday you’ll get a glimpse of why life is a chore for other people. Nothing wrong with it ending.

>>11519067
>>11519059
For the record, I never said I wanted to die, when I was talking to that other autist. I just said I wasn’t afraid of dying.

>>11518968
pathetic

>>11519080
That’s fine, but there are also plenty of people who want to die. Luck is a bell curve. Plenty of people have shit lives, and they’re generally the only useful, respectable people.

>>11519022
>desperately clinging on to life to the point of deluding himself with dreams of immortality

>>11519080
This dude is redpilled

>>11516797
Ceasing to exist means your pain stops, genius

>>11519089
Hey man I feel you. I think a person should be able to choose whether or not they live or die. I have no qualms with people that choose suicide. I don’t think they are selfish, it’s their choice.

>>11518965
i can tell you lack a hunger for knowledge. imagine having the ability to live forever. imagine how advanced the human race could become. iq wouldn't matter, instead we'd look to people who live the longest/have the most wisdom. we could go to different planets and establish civilizations. the human race could exist forever which should be our sole focus. the thoughts of man dying out terrifies me.. who would replace us? perhaps dolphins will evolve and become intelligent like us or something. fuck i wish i was born 3000 years into the future.

>>11519098
Hey man if people don’t die there is no survival of the fitness, and then are population would e overrun by retards like you that should have died.

>>11519106
>our

>>11516002
Die with dignity you fucking pussy.

Final fact to cap this off
Biological immortality is but the assurance you will perish a traumatic violent possibly painful death
The sooner you learn to accept your mortality the better off you'll be

>>11519115
I accidentally almost died twice when I was doing heroin. Those deaths would have been pretty good, all I remember is extreme calmness as I fell into the abyss. After I fell off I came to in the hospital both times, it was weird coming back after you step over that ledge.

>>11519123
You disgust me

>>11519130
But I love you anon.

>>11519130
You’re pathetic

>>11516002
>Vitalik

Just what the anti-aging field needed, more conmen.

>>11519123
Degenerate scum.

>>11519145
You should respect people who have been addicts, they have MUCH harder lives than you.

>>11519144
what if we apply blackchain to anti-aging technology? it could work

>>11519059
>Parasites. Worthless parasites enjoy existing

Cope harder depressed zombie.

>>11519089
>That’s fine, but there are also plenty of people who want to die.

K kill yourself then

>>11519145
That high was pretty great, and I got to see the other side.

>>11519156
It’s true, think about people who have good lives. They are all nauseating parasites who consume resources without contributing jack shit

>>11519115
>Biological immortality is but the assurance you will perish a traumatic violent possibly painful death

Doesn’t matter, since you can experience unimaginable amounts of pleasure before then.

The sooner you accept you’re a beta male who exists only to get buttfucked by chad, the better off you’ll be.

>>11519162
>It’s true, think about people who have good lives

Pretty fun people, and succeeding at life by enjoying it, where you fail by not enjoying it.

> They are all nauseating parasites who consume resources without contributing jack shit

I can smell your bias from here. You’re a sad, unhappy person and you hate people who are happy because you’re jealous. It’s pitiful and repulsive.

>>11517306
false it's logical to assume that you will be born into another entity. The only downside is that you will be someone entirely new and possibly retarded. You'll just be going to cyclic process of being a randomised entity, which begs the question on why do you want to subject yourself to that. Sure if it's the novelty of experiencing new life forms, though you won't remember I said this in the next life, then fine have it your way, however, if you know that this life you have now; the body you exist in now is of value and worth something (or even worth developing), then it's best to become immortal.

>>11519169
Tell me about yourself anon?

>>11519169
I mean, if you’re one of the people that got fucked over you SHOULD hate happy people and want them ruined. The greatest evil is that some awful people get to be like Brad Pitt while others get to starve, or get diseases, or have to be ugly. There’s nothing more evil than happy people.

>>11516596
Well not everything in life is everyone's cup of tea.

How does you having a shitty life at all successfully argue or even remotely imply that other people shouldn't pursue life extension technology? Are you people really that fucking dense?

>>11519176

>>11519179
>I mean, if you’re one of the people that got fucked over you SHOULD hate happy people and want them ruined

Lol
You’re like some kind of goblin character in a cartoon. I have a hard time taking you seriously because of how cartoonish you are. “GRRR I HAET HAPPY PEPOL THEY R EVIL CUS I AM JEALOUS GRRRRR”

LMAO Jesus Christ

>>11519169
In the end though, unhappy people win. They welcome death with open arms while the happy parasites claw and scratch for one more second of their pathetic existence, kek. Loser.

>>11519186
>Are you people really that fucking dense?

Yes. You’ll find a lot of people like that on 4Chan.

>>11519185
Cheers anon, you seem like a cool dude.

>>11519190
Why do people think ‘jealousy’ is an argument? Other people getting things you don’t get is a totally valid reason for hatred.

>>11519198
The redpill is to realize that the things that matter no one else has.

>>11516651
the thing about having everyone get on the hype train are the problems which will occur with anti-aging i.e. life being placed to nothing for new offspring, continuous tyrannical governments, especially corporations cashing in on a repeated cycle of braindead consumers which most people on here despise. Anti-aging/Immortality should be placed towards those who are conscious and intelligent, eventually the inequality of it being favoured to upper elite and smart individuals, which is given.

>>11519186
Because society entirely relies on people with shitty lives. If parasites get extended lifespans, who is gonna do all the necessary jobs? You realize models, business parasites, and athletes aren’t important, right?

>>11519198
>Why do people think ‘jealousy’ is an argument?

There is no argument. I am mocking you.

>Other people getting things you don’t get is a totally valid reason for hatred.

No it isn’t. Your parents should have taught you this when you were literally three.

“GRRRR I HAET PEPOL CUS THEY HAV THINGS I DONT THAT IS PERFEFTLY JUSTIFIED GRRRR IM A GOBLIN CARTOON CHARACTER WITH A BIG GREEN NOSE AND CLAWS”

Holy shit dude are you trolling? If you’re not this is sad but still funny

>>11519203
>Because society entirely relies on people with shitty lives.

Yeah I’m gonna have to ask for the scientific paper you’re using as the source of your claims.

>>11519205
Are you telling me people starving to death in the third world shouldn’t hate you for having the things they’re entitled to? Are you telling me ugly people shouldn’t hate attractive people for stealing everything in life from them? You must be retarded. And you are evil.

>>11516658
why should you allow the degradation of your body as you grow older. Wouldn't you want the same healthy body you enjoyed with during your younger years than having it decay to nothing. As incels say though you might not be interested plus reactive like all the other memetards on the other end of the politicial spectrum "Aging is a slowly dying process, whilst suicide is quick and painless"

>>11519201
Extremely based

>>11519208
>think of important job
>ask yourself about the quality of life of the person doing it

>think of unimportant parasite job
>ask yourself about the quality of life of the person doing it

End result is that all important jobs are done by miserable people, all happy people are worthless parasites.

>>11519106
>survival of the fittest
Are we animals? Do we just cast aside the weak and disabled? when was the last time you killed a man by doming him with a rock so you could bang his girl? are you retarded? we value intelligence over muscle. what fucking epoch are you living in?

>>11519218
desu it should be more like this. We don’t value intelligence at all lol. At least in the US the most successful people are the dumbest

>>11518965
a defining example of the decayed body that you have anon. If you were mentally and physically fit you wouldn't revel in silly nihilism. If everyone stayed in the same nihilistic process that you're in now. The world shouldn't even exist and omnipotence would be erased. Death should be something to fear as it's a sign of losing yourself entirely.

>>11519210
>Are you telling me people starving to death in the third world shouldn’t hate you for having the things they’re entitled to?

Yep.

> Are you telling me ugly people shouldn’t hate attractive people for stealing everything in life from them?

Yep, though attractive people don’t “steal everything in life” from unattractive people.
You’re letting way too much of your personal psychology loose. I now know you’re ugly, unhappy, and poor, and you have a deep resentment of your betters, like some kind of cartoon goblin man. Your parents didn’t raise you right, since you think jealousy is justified, which suggests an unintact family unit in childhood, which would fit with your being poor and unhappy to a degree.

> You must be retarded.

I am retarded because I’m not jealous and more happy than you, yep. LOL

> And you are evil.

The goblin man who thinks hating people because they have things you don’t claims others are evil. That’s funny!

You’re a funny little man.

>>11519215
>End result is that all important jobs are done by miserable people

Show me the scientific paper you’re using as your source.

>>11519218
> Are we animals?

Yes. Take a biology class.

>>11519225
You can’t make a single argument for people with bad luck shouldn’t hate people with good luck, because there is no argument. There is nothing in this world more evil than some people getting to have good lives while others suffer. People with good lives should have to fend for themselves, not profit off of the misery of their superiors.

I genuinely hope your fate is a nightmare anon. It makes me so happy that you’re going to lose everything one day. Parasitic slime.

>>11519218
>we value intelligence over muscle
If you believe this you must be very retarded

>>11519228
it’s a logic question, not a scientific paper question. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of important jobs require the worker to have a terrible life. Close to 100% of luxurious jobs are valueless.

>>11519223
Midwit brainlet. I didn’t think your kind existed in the wild.

>>11519225
To be fair happy people are generally retarded. All smart people are unhappy.

>>11519223
This sounds like you are trying to convince yourself not me anon.

>>11519236
>You can’t make a single argument for people with bad luck shouldn’t hate people with good luck, because there is no argument.

I’m mocking you, not arguing with you, because you’re a living cartoon of a jealous angry little man.
You can’t make a single argument for people with bad luck should hate people with good luck, because there is no argument.
LOL

> There is nothing in this world more evil than some people getting to have good lives while others suffer.

There is nothing in this world more evil than jealous little goblin men who think it’s okay to hate people because they have things you don’t.

> People with good lives should have to fend for themselves, not profit off of the misery of their superiors.

Happy people are, by definition, superior to you.

> I genuinely hope your fate is a nightmare anon

I hope you become happy one day. :)
Your impotent hatred only makes you look pathetic.

>>11516002
This is the same guy who defended the idea that having child porn pictures stored in your computer isn't harmful.

>>11519241
>it’s a logic question, not a scientific paper question. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of important jobs require the worker to have a terrible life.

Show me the scientific paper you’re using as the source of your claims. Specifically, I want to see a paper that rates jobs by life satisfaction using some sort of survey,

>>11519237
you're thinking with your cock. someone who is a genius in math/astrophysics etc is more useful to society than some fucking dyslexic with big arms.

>>11518950
I learn better from YouTube tutorials but I can't seem to find any.

>>11516651
>But the more people we have the more geniuses we get.
Not if the additional people we get are niggers.

>>11519106
>survival of the fitness
Non-existent among modern humans.

>>11519250
You realize everything from your opinions to your writing style betrays an IQ below 100. You are inferior.

The unfortunate should absolutely despise the fortunate. It’s a moral axiom. To not do so makes one a useful idiot. Lucky people are despicable leeches, especially in this world where handsome men/beautiful women are handed everything for free. They should be resented to the point of not being able to function, let alone benefit from their parasitic privilege. The only reason they aren’t is useful idiots like you taught that “jealousy” is ugly instead of a noble path to justice and fairness.

>>11519232
your nitpicking doesn't make you sound smart retard, we are humans we are above fucking apes and dogs and the rest of the animal kingdom. we dont act on fucking instincts which is what differentiates us from every organism on earth.

>>11519153
Brb securing $1b in funding from venture capitalists.

>>11519250
Happy people are always inferior, which is part of the reason it’s evil for them to benefit from civilization. The only people who should benefit from civilization should be the ones laboring to support it. Everyone else (all happy people) should be tossed onto a desert island with some basic tools.

>>11519255
You’re an idiot

>>11519222
i dont mean society as a whole i mean the scientific community which have been the factors driving technological advancements for centuries

>>11519271
>You realize everything from your opinions to your writing style betrays an IQ below 100

K lol

> You are inferior.

I’m happier than you, so I am superior to you, but don’t worry, one day you may become happy too. It’s not too difficult.

“GRRRR I HATE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN ME GRRRRRR IM NOT HAPPY SO I HATE PEOPLE WHO ARE GRRRR IM A GOBLIN MAN”

Your post reads like something I’d find in a children’s book that teaches little kids that jealousy is bad. It’s honestly really funny while being simultaneously very sad.

>>11519288
>you’re an idiot

I am an idiot because you refuse to provide evidence of your claims????
Non sequitur.

>>11519285
>”grrrr I’m depressed and pathetic so I hate people who aren’t unhappy like I am! I’m a jealous man child”

IQ correlates with happiness, with lower IQ people being on average less happy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed

>>11519106
what? human innovation has already outpaced evolution

>>11519302
Wrong, and there have been multiple studies demonstrating the opposite correlation.

Happy people are brainless parasites.

>>11519292
You realize authorities have historically taught that jealousy/envy are wrong as a means of control, right? Teach the poor peasants that they shouldn’t feel entitled to what the rich people have to preserve that power structure and keep the poor working hard to support the rich.

In reality jealousy is noble. It represents the path to justice.

>>11519307
>Wrong

Oh, it’s wrong because you say so?
Sorry, but that’s not how reality works. :)

> and there have been multiple studies demonstrating the opposite correlation.

Cite one.

> Happy people are brainless parasites.

Unhappy people are brainless parasites.

>>11519302
guess the pygmy are smart then, however, happiness in correlation with IQ isn't a significant factor.

>>11519317
yo how the could unhappy people be parasites? They don’t get anything. To be a parasite you have to receive benefits you don’t deserve. That only applies to happy/good looking people.

>>11519242
we're not in the wild anymore Tyrone

>>11519314
>You realize authorities have historically taught that jealousy/envy are wrong as a means of control, right?

No, it’s just because envy makes you unhappy. You’re a shining example of such.

> In reality jealousy is noble.

Keep telling yourself that. You will eventually die alone and unhappy, and be forgotten.
Well, I’ll remember you as the cartoonishly jealous person I met on 4Chan once and I’ll tell other people about you so we can laugh, so you won’t actually be forgotten, so don’t worry about that!

>>11519319
>guess the pygmy are smart then

Are they happy? If so, they’re doing better at life than you.

>>11519256
Yet he is having children. From my experience, really intelligent people but all their energy into thinking. They generally don’t have kids.

>>11519223
What don’t you understand about how unlucky some people are? “Losing yourself entirely” is a GOOD thing if your life is mostly suffering, dimwit. Not everyone is a non-human instagram model or w/e

>>11519323
>yo how the could unhappy people be parasites?

All they do is bitch and moan on 4Chan about how the universe is evil and stupid because they don’t hate a billion dollar and Elon Musk does. Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>living forever
stupid meme, even if it would be possible
why live forever?
silly human fear of death, get over it

>>11519248
well i'm already convinced that aging is nothing but accepting defeat to nature, which wouldn't make sense for evolution. I'm fine with death but I don't wish to die nor do I want to age and look like a complete ghost with bones sticking out. If death is inevitable and we can't do nothing about it, then I'd rather die healthy and at peak.

>>11519328
>From my utterly worthless biased personal anecdotes

>>11519327
Didn't read the next part did you.

>>11519266
Nah, it is just favoring the stupid at the moment.

>>11519333
> why live forever?

To have fun forever.

>>11519329
> What don’t you understand about how unlucky some people are?

You can still be happy while being “unlucky”.

> “Losing yourself entirely” is a GOOD thing if your life is mostly suffering, dimwit.

Okay, then go stick the shotgun in your mouth and fire.

>>11519337
>Didn't read the next part did you.

I ignored it since it wasn’t relevant.

>>11519331
I would consider Elon musk pretty ugly, he ended up having to earn and buy his good looks. All lucky/parasitic/evil people are good looking.

>>11519347
>I’m ugly so all people who aren’t ugly are evil!!!!

Holy shit dude you’re hilarious

>>11519329
yes I know that, and before you say looks like you don't, I have gone through tons of suffering. My life til now would be a best seller if it were titled about suffering. I just want to live forever to just see how this world ends up being and to relive a specific age again (if reverse aging becomes a thing). What new ventures tech will take us is another thing I'd like to see.

>>11519325
Envy is taught as wrong to protect the position of the evil parasite class over the working class. You are one naive moron.

>>11519334
So you fear death because you fear watching your body deteriorate? Understandable but elementary.

>>11519347
harvey weinstein is good looking?

>>11519336
You ever heard of Isaac newton anon?

>>11519352
>Envy is taught as wrong to protect the position of the evil parasite class over the working class

Whatever you say little ugly poor goblin man

>>11519349
You don’t have to be ugly to realize how good good looking people have it these days. All good looking people are successful even when they are evil, mentally retarded, uncharismatic, etc. Their privilege is the one of the worst things in human history

>>11519359
>What about this one guy? No, I don’t need to provide any actual data.

Repetitive and unoriginal.

>>11519361
>All good looking people are successful even when they are evil, mentally retarded, uncharismatic, etc

Provide a study that demonstrates this.

>>11519361
Looks only open the door, you still have to walk through, and defend yourself.

>>11519353
well what else is there. I find it best to still think about things I want to but to be honest with you, I fear death because I wouldn't have anyone with me then. Don't know why I wanted to say this but it's true

>>11519360
Guess what: one day is going to be the last moment I if your pathetic, ugly life. Claw for that last breath you pathetic parasite. Ultimately the only strong people are the ones who don’t care about death. You are a fragile, weak little pussy.

>>11519366
>this one guy
Arguably the most intelligent person to ever live.m

>>11519367
Halo effect

>>11519341
>To have fun forever.
what fraction of your life was fun so far, say past 18?

>>11519368
That’s incorrect. Since good looking people all get free confidence, the walking through the door part is done for them as well. There’s not a single respectable good looking person who has earned anything.

>>11519370
We all must face death alone anon. But give yourself credit, you don’t need anybody else.

>>11519372
>grrr i try to belittle u now

Lol
I’m really scared of your green goblin claws and your warty green goblin nose. Real intimidating.
Maybe trying to be edgy and mean works for whatever other suicidal goblins you argue with, but I’m a natural optimistic so it doesn’t really do anything.

>>11519382
He man don’t hate me, I still put my pants on one leg at a time.

>>11519379
>what fraction of your life was fun so far, say past 18?

Ignoring sleeping? About 70%. The rest is perfectly tolerable. I wouldn’t define taking out the trash as “fun” but it’s not particularly unpleasant either.

>>11519390
Why are so obsessed with goblin imagery? Can’t make a logical argument for why normal working people should be okay with Brad Pitt leeching all the world’s happiness without contributing anything? Hating this arrangement makes you a goblin? The worst people get the most stuff in life. How is that anything but evil? More evil than pol pot.

>>11519401
Don’t bring Pol pot into this, he wasn’t evil he was based

>>11516064
>and death
Of course, if the technological world-system is going to collapse in the not-too-distant future, as we've argued it must, then no one is going to achieve immortality in any form. But even assuming that we're wrong and that the technological world-system will survive indefinitely, the techies' dream of an unlimited life-span is still illusory. We need not doubt that it will be technically feasible in the future to keep a human body, or a man-machine hybrid, alive indefinitely. It is seriously to be doubted that it will ever be feasible to "upload" a human brain into electronic form with sufficient accuracy so that the uploaded entity can reasonably be regarded as a functioning duplicate of the original brain. Nevertheless, we will assume in what follows that each of the solutions (i), (ii), and (iii) will become technically feasible at some time within the next several decades.

It is an index of the techies' self-deception that they habitually assume that anything they consider desirable will actually be done when it becomes technically feasible. Of course, there are lots of wonderful things that already are and for a long time have been technically feasible, but don't get done. Intelligent people have said again and again: "How easily men could make things much better than they are-if they only all tried together!" But people never do "all try together," because the principle of natural selection guarantees that self-prop systems will act mainly for their own survival and propagation in competition with other self-prop systems, and will not sacrifice competitive advantages for the achievement of philanthropic goals.

>>11519403
Based

>>11519392
The difference is that you get rewarded for putting your pants on, while useful people just get their daily dose of horrible suffering.

>>11519401
>Why are so obsessed with goblin imagery?

I think goblins are really funny, and you remind me of “The Berenstain Bears and the Green-Eyed Monster”, in which jealousy is depicted as a green goblin-like bear. You’re basically a cartoonish representation of jealousy so I think the comparison fits really well.

How does Brad Pitt “Leach all the happiness from the world”? I’m sure he makes you really triggered because he’s more successful than you, but not everyone is so prone to jealous childishness.

>>11519414
>Everyone who is useful is suffering all the time dur

Why can’t you provide any scientific studies to prove this?

>>11519415
Are you really so unimaginative your can’t see how good brad pitt’s life has been purely as a result of him being handsome? He’s the definition of a parasite and everything he has, superior people are entitled to.

You are accidentally making an argument for why jealousy is good with your stupidity.

>>11519426
>Are you really so unimaginative your can’t see how good brad pitt’s life has been purely as a result of him being handsome?

I’m sure it has a significant effect, but I don’t care because I’m not a jealous person and am content to focus on and improve my own life rather than crying and moping about how some other person has an even better life. It’s unproductive and childish.

>He’s the definition of a parasite and everything he has, superior people are entitled to.

You’re not entitled to anything. Hate to burst your bubble.

>>11519439
Anyone that an undeserving person has, everyone is entitled to. End of story. Alternatively, the undeserving person should lose everything. Either way, some people having more than others is profoundly evil.

>>11519414
I can help you put my pants on if you’d like

>>11519448
>Anyone that an undeserving person has, everyone is entitled to. End of story.

You’re entitled to nothing. End of story.
See? I can assert things too. :)

>>11519439
That’s because you benefit from the current state of affairs, dumbass. A lot of people can’t “focus on and improve their own life” due to misfortune.

>>11519460
>A lot of people can’t “focus on and improve their own life” due to misfortune.

Nope. Everyone can improve their own lives, at least if they’re not beta males with no willpower like yourself.

>>11519456
I can agree that people are entitled to nothing, but then privileged people should lose everything they have.

>>11519466
>but then privileged people should lose everything they have.

Nah. It’s theirs. Get over it.

>>11519465
Examples where you can’t improve your own life
>being short or ugly (male) being ugly (female)
>having low intelligence
>being born into poverty
>being born in a third world country
>having mental illness/birth defects
>having various other incurable diseases
>having a bad accident
There’s lots of circumstances that dooms people to permanent horrific nightmare lives.

>>11519473
It isn’t theirs though. For example what would brad Pitt do without people paving roads, stocking grocery stores, building structures, buying his shitty movies, etc. All good looking people/parasites are reliant on the betters. That’s why they should lose everything.

>>11519389
how am i supposed to do that, when all i've done was be in my room anon. I'm completely nothing, like a literal entity of nihilism, similar to that of the empty space before the big bang. Sure I could be asking something that would spark such bang but what is there for me. Anti-aging and this immortality has acted as soothing agent but eliminate those ideas and I'm back to square zero. If only you witnessed what I went through anon

>>11519474
>Poor people can’t stop being poor or go to a better country

Lol

> There’s lots of circumstances that dooms people to permanent horrific nightmare lives.

People with all of those things can still be happy. Unhappiness is quite literally all in your head. :)

>>11519479
> It isn’t theirs though.

Yes it is. Their possessions are legally and practically theirs and there’s nothing you can do about it.

> That’s why they should lose everything.

Because you’re a jealous little goblin who hates people who are more successful.

Lol nah.

>>11519487
You are legitimately brain dead. You can’t give a single reason why brad Pitt should be allowed to benefit from infrastructure provided by working people superior to him while he lives a cushy life doing absolutely nothing respectable or valuable. He’s “successful” only according to drones like you. You are repulsive.

>>11519486
Even if it’s true that unhappiness is in your head, it requires infinite effort to be happy with those disadvantages compared to low lives who get to be happy without effort.

>>11519491
> You are legitimately brain dead

Lol

> You can’t give a single reason why brad Pitt should be allowed to benefit from infrastructure provided by working people superior to him while he lives a cushy life doing absolutely nothing respectable or valuable.

People gave him money, so he should be able to do whatever he wants with it. Lol

> You are repulsive.

You are repulsive.

>>11519485
Alright anon, this anti aging thing seems real legit. It will be discovered before you would have died. No need to be afraid anymore.

>>11519486
just reference him chapter 66 from GTO
>inb4 it's a manga
has more real life experience

>>11519495
>it requires infinite effort to be happy with those disadvantages

Happiness is effortless.

>>11519502
Yeah if you’re low IQ, in a coma, or have unearned privileges. Otherwise it’s a years-long effort in mastery over your emotions, while other people are enjoying themselves

>>11519498
kek you didn't have to say it like I'm a kid. Expected something like advice as such. oh well

>>11519507
>Yeah if you’re low IQ, in a coma, or have unearned privileges.

Nah, it’s just effortless. I realized being upset was dumb so I decided to no longer be upset and only be happy. Works great.

>>11519513
You’re probably retarded anon, with a low volume of thoughts

>>11519519
>You’re probably retarded anon

Nah. I’m a genius, and you, a fool.

>with a low volume of thoughts

I control my thoughts in such a way that only happiness is induced. It’s really easy.

>>11519497
> People gave him money
Right, because instead of living in a world where good looking people are despised, we live in a world where they are handed jobs, money, “success” and happiness. All because of repulsive useful idiots like you.

>>11519523
Wrong.

>>11519524
>Right, because instead of living in a world where good looking people are despised

There is no reason to despise “good looking people”.

You are just a jealous man child, and I’m bored with you. I’m going to go have fun in life and you will seethe all day and maybe even continue to seethe until you’re dead. Bye bye!

>>11519541
>Wrong.

Possibly. I find it easy, but it might be really hard for you. For all I know, you have zero willpower.

>>11519508
The debacle you are in needs to be solved by you and yourself alone. Nothing I say will change that anon.

>>11519542
>there is no reason to despise good looking people
If you are average looking or below, that good looking person will have more/better relationships than you, lower anxiety, higher confidence, a better job, more money, more friends, and endless more advantages that they didn’t earn. This will be the case even if they are dumber than you, even if they are literally a rapist or a killer.

Name a single better reason to hate someone than this.

>>11519544
If you think there’s such a thing as willpower you’re pretty stupid. That doesn’t exist.

>>11519553
>That doesn’t exist.

I guess I was right, you have no willpower.
Other people have it, kind of like how you have your virginity still at 37 and other people lost it at sixteen.

>>11519553
I think willpower only exists for people that need to give themselves an excuse to not do something they want to do.

>>11519557
Nah it straight up isn’t a real thing. It’s literally just people lying about what their motivations are to seem like they earned the result of their actions. For example a person who diets successfully doesn’t have willpower, the motivation to be fit just overrides the motivation to eat excessively.

>>11517120
https://youtu.be/GoJsr4IwCm4

>>11519559

Kurzgesagt. Yikes

>>11519140
Says the junkie

>>11519165
>doesn't matter
exactly immortality doesn't matter, quit video games and make he most of your life while you ca