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Is it possible that the fatality rate is much worse than they are saying it is over concern of inciting a public panic?

China lost 21 million phone subscriptions this year and an Italian mayor is saying many deaths are being written off as pneumonia and not covid

>> No.11508362

>>11508331
>is water wet

www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/26/confusion-breeds-distrust-china-keeps-changing-how-it-counts-coronavirus-cases.html

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/13/coronavirus-china-purges-regional-leaders-hours-after-spike-in-deaths-and-new-cases

www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-13/china-coronavirus-cases-jump-after-counting-method-revision
go back

>> No.11508397

>>11508331
China is almost certainly lying about the numbers, but 21 million, even in a country as populous as China, is such a massive amount that it couldn't be covered up.

>> No.11508415

>>11508331
>inciting a public panic?
no because no one panics once it's over, no matter what the body count

>> No.11508450

>>11508362
>Is water wet
Well, yes and no. Water is wet if you are viewing from a macroscopic point of view. Some reference size is going to have several water particles, so it could be considered as having moisture.
However, if you consider wetness at a particulate level, you will notice that each water molecule doesn't contain another, so each water molecule is not wet, since it has no moisture.

>> No.11508464

>>11508331
>>11508362
Since about 19th February the Chinese government basically banned the reporting of new cases:

> ""If a single new case is found (after Wednesday), the district leaders will be held responsible."
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

Just after that, the number of reports starting dropping dramatically. They're scared to report they even have infected.

>> No.11508494

>>11508331
>trusting Italian mayors
I’m Italian, mayor of my city won because he bought votes of poor people.
Mayor usually shit on the government cause they’re of other parties.
I’m not saying he’s right or not I am just saying that an Italian mayor isn’t a good source of informations

>> No.11508498

If it was that bad Wuhan would be a ghost town, and we know it isn't

>> No.11508512

>>11508494

lol its all the opposite really. people die of any illness and then test positive to covid then they immediately blame the virus for their death.

>> No.11508559

>>11508331
Not everyone who has it even shows symptoms. 50% of the population could have already contracted the disease and recovered. The lack of testing means the fatality rate can only be way overblown. Think about it.

>> No.11509170

>>11508559
It's 14 to 24 days without symptoms for Asians, and they have 5 times more ACE2 receptors than us Native Europeans (the virus attacks the body through the ACE2 receptors). We have 5 times less, so we can take even longer than 24 days for us to display symptoms.

>> No.11509218

>>11509170
>Asians, and they have 5 times more ACE2 receptors
The expression
of ACE2 increases with age, but is not associated with sex. Asians show a similar
ACE2 expression to other races. Furthermore, the frequencies of ACE2 alleles in
Asians are not significantly deviated from those in other races.

>> No.11509226

>>11509170
found the pol/tard

>> No.11509238

>>11509218
>asians are a sex
Found the tumblr user.

>>11509226
??????

>> No.11509243

>>11509238
are you illiterate?

>> No.11509247

>>11508331
>only test the old and infirm
>not even all of them die
>could the death rate be bigger?
absolutely not, retard. italy is actually fucking up their stats and marking eveything as corona, and not the other way around

>> No.11509261

>>11508559
We found out asymptomatic people are less likely to spread the virus also

>> No.11509276
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11509276

>>11509226
I realize your parents and their parents were brought up on the Jewish mind-poison known as Christianity which teaches all humans are equal, and due to leftist brainwashing you want to believe all humans are equal as well, both in mind and genetically, but newsflash bro; reality is different from your imaginary fantasy world.

It's a scientific fact Asians have more ACE2 receptors and that the virus uses the ACE2 receptors. Hence more receptors = faster infection, quicker to show symptoms. Fewer ACE2 receptors = more resistance for the virus, slower infection, longer to display symptoms.

ACE2 is central to the virus' mode of operation, see:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/pdf/41591_2015_Article_BFnm3985.pdf

>> No.11509282

>>11509276
>It's a scientific fact Asians have more ACE2
nope

>> No.11509283
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>>11509282

>> No.11509287

>>11509282
Just keep burying your head in the sand while ignoring reality and science bro, I'm sure that'll work out just fine for you in the long run.

>> No.11509294

>>11509261
That is until they’re reinfected by healthcare workers, who have become infested with viruses accumulated from the dozens of patients they brushed past that day.

>> No.11509296

>>11508331
>/pol/tards still going on about muh phone subscriptions
Phone subscriptions expire. This is natural. When you have 1.4 billion chinks in your country, a lot of phone subscriptions expire every month.
What's not natural is that nobody can subscribe for a new phone because the malls are closed and you have no income and there's a soldier with a gun outside making sure you don't leave your house. Hence, net loss of subscriptions.

The part I really don't understand about this conspiracy is that these phone stats are published by state-owned telecom companies. If there's really a gigantic, billion-person coverup of millions of deaths by the government, why is this same government making publicly available data that blows their cover?

>> No.11509298

>>11509294
>That is until they’re reinfected by healthcare workers
Nice logic.

>> No.11509318

>>11509298
Are you not considering that, at some point, hospitals will have to accept patients that ostensibly aren’t infected? Really?

>> No.11509335
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>>11509282
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full.pdf

>> No.11509343

>>11509261
Well duh, at the asymptomatic stage the infection is less serious and the virus hasn't manifested itself fully yet. When people starting showing symptoms the virus has fully manifested itself.

>> No.11509345

>>11508512
>>11509247
Lol, you better hope so. As if they are testing corpses in nursing homes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-homes-insigh/uncounted-among-coronavirus-victims-deaths-sweep-through-italys-nursing-homes-idUSKBN2152V0

>> No.11509351

>>11509276
>I realize your parents and their parents were brought up on the Jewish mind-poison known as Christianity which teaches all humans are equal
There are race distinctions in the Bible alone, you illiterate piece of shit.
Why do the retarded portion of /pol/ insist on bashing Christianity and want to LARP as twig worshipping barbarians is beyond me

>> No.11509358

>>11509343
Not everyone develops serious symptoms. Do you know what asymptomatic means

>> No.11509362

>>11509318
So every doctor will be infected and never recover? Right. And re infection doesn't happen

>> No.11509364

>>11509218
i'm curious, which sex are you? african?

>> No.11509375

>>11509358
>"the infection is less serious" <-- a statement describing the level of infection, how serious the infection has become
=/=
>"serious symptoms"
Develop better reading skills.

>> No.11509383

>>11509335
>sample size: 8
ONE DUDE
LOL, your level of stupidity when generalizing the results of one 55y-old is just amazing

>> No.11509387

>>11509364
lrn2read

>> No.11509396

>>11509375
>develop better reading skills
Nigger maybe write a normal sentence instead of these autistic greentexts

>> No.11509403

>>11509351
Wow, an actual Christcuck on /sci/ of all places.

>> No.11509407

>>11509396
>greentexting is difficult for me to comprehend
It's time for you to go back.

>> No.11509420

>>11509362
>So every doctor will be infected and never recover?
Not infected - contaminated. Doctors will be dealing with COVID-19 continuously until the end of the year. Viruses will coat their clothing, equipment, furniture, and maybe even hands and hair depending on how lax various standards become.

>re infection doesn't happen
You literally have to add one word to this phrase, paste it into Google, and click around for 5 seconds to be proven utterly incorrect.

>> No.11509432

>>11509226
You ought to try setting aside your personal feelings and realize the biological reality of race differences. An entirely new world would open to you.

>> No.11509440

>>11509432
lrn2read
>>11509383

>> No.11509443

>>11509403
/sci/ is the 4chan's hotspot for discussions of internet IQ tests, flat Earth theory, climate change denialism, imaginary number denialism (seriously wtf?), anti-vaxxing, and profoundly ignorant interpretations of QM/high-energy physics... and a fundamentalist Christian makes you raise an eyebrow?

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>>11509420
>contaminated
And plenty of them will make mistakes, making themselves infected. Then infecting other fellow doctors while they aren't in protective clothing.

>> No.11509460

>>11509351
>Race distinctions
>God created everyone in his image
>God was a cracker nigger kike chang pedo psycho
>God loves his creations equally
>God loves cracker nigger kikes changs pedos psychos equally
Answer me Christcuck, why did Good create black people? Why did God create pedophiles? Why did God create psychos? You won't obviously answer.

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11509461

>>11509443

> "Anti-Vaxxers are IDIOTS!"
https://files.catbox.moe/fgduj8.webm

> "Vaccines WORK!"
https://files.catbox.moe/yy0v50.webm

> About "Climate Change" & "Global Warming"

https://files.catbox.moe/8zkgar.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/uurox8.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/tkie0n.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/41o9cw.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/w5dd23.webm

>> No.11509479

>>11509351
>our forebears were... [accessing the politically correct NPC buzzword database] ...barbarians!
>barbarians bad!
>modern domesticated man good!

>> No.11509489

>>11509461
>Ugh why do these anons hate /pol/ and tell us /pol/tards to go back, must be a buncha jewz
>Also let deny science, ignore any graphs that indicate how well vaccines have helped us and discredit it as a Jewish funded lie (Even though there are studies showing how harmful circumcision is, which da jewz obviously don't like and would remove it by now, hmmmmm)
>Let's also discredit any anons that go against my points, they must be da jewz being worried about themselves and not science
>Remember how I hated how da jewz censor everything? Yeah, it sucks but I'll do the same shit they do by calling everybody a Jew and wish death for them
Post the happy merchant image to prove ur a troll and gay

>> No.11509491

>>11508498
There’s a live stream of it on YouTube
It is

>> No.11509504

>>11509489
Go choke to death on some baby foreskin, Goldblatt.

>> No.11509513

>>11509420
>Doctors will be dealing with COVID-19 continuously until the end of the year
In separate places maybe. But he virus hits hard then dies off. Nobody is infected for a year
>paste it into Google, and click around for 5 seconds to be proven utterly incorrect.
But I'm not retarded. If you take more then 5 seconds you'd know alot those were from faulting testing. Not people getting re infected

>> No.11509514

>>11509218
>The expression of ACE2 increases with age
It's the other way around.

>>11509276
ACE2 receptors are actually protective since they play a significant role in immunity, otherwise the elderly should be less at risk than the younger population, but that's clearly not the case.

>> No.11509518
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11509518

Vaccines are good! We're all fellow citizens of the global village. The authorities and pharmaceutical industries have our best interest in mind. They'd never do anything to harm us.

>> No.11509525

>>11509513
Your arguments are getting progressively more ignorant and nonsensical. Just admit you were wrong and come back when you’ve done a few hours of reading.

>> No.11509538

>>11509504
>Procceeds to call me a Jew
Counter my arguments you gay troll

>> No.11509542

>>11509518
I can see what you mean, yes the authority isn't trustable. But in cases like vaccines, they are trustable... A bit. I mean just look at the graphs.

>> No.11509560

>>11509518
u do realize in the 21st century we have the highest average life expectancy ever due to literal advents in science.
but some asshole thinks maybe the entire world is conspiring to make vaccines to kill people.
fucking die of smallpox u little shit

>> No.11509573

>>11509538
No arguments made.

>> No.11509579

>>11509560
> in the 21st century we have the highest average life expectancy
Made up lie. In pre-Christian times life expectancy and health was much higher and better than it is now.

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>>11509560
https://files.catbox.moe/xvv996.webm

>> No.11509592

>>11509351
Hallelujah! Praise be to the Lord Yahweh, the child-burning volcano god!

>> No.11509596

>>>/pol/250693486 oh look /pol/io are undeniably here
Go back in your containment board you scientific illiterate retards

>> No.11509597

>>11509489
>t. Rabbi Scholomo VonShecklestien

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>>11509597
You have to go back

>> No.11509608

>>11509596
Why (You) on /pol/ tho hmmmm? Perhaps keeping a watchful eye on the uppity goyem??

>> No.11509613

>>11509602
We own this entire site lmao it is you whom'st've leave or get thrown into the oven

>> No.11509630

>>11509608
To meme in /cvg/, I don't even open other threads since you aren't worth the time of any functional person
>>11509613
It's cute you think that.

>> No.11509653

>>11509630
>I was only there for the memes I swear!
Absolutely busted

>> No.11510085

/pol/tards need to start getting range banned off this board

>> No.11510162

>>11508331
>China lost 21 million phone subscriptions this year
Mass quarantine means people don't work. If people don't work, they don't make money. If they don't make money, they can't afford phone bills

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>>11508331
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHHAHAHA THIS IS TOO GOOD HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 21 MILLION PHONE SUBSCRIPTIONS LOST HAHAHAHAHHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA THIS BAIT IS TOO GOOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

>> No.11510182

>>11509170
The fuck you talking about mate? Do you even know what an ACE2 receptor is? Or how it works?

>> No.11510195

>>11510182
Yes. You tell me exactly what it is and how it works, explain it to me like I'm stupid, just so I can see if you know what you're talking about...

>> No.11510196

>>11508331
It's more than likely that poor Chinese can't pay for their phone bills. Granted it's all through the state money is still involved and if they're locked up chances are they can't earn money and their subscriptions have to be cancelled.

Not to mention how sloppy of a cover-up that would be if they just posted official numbers like that implying that many died.

Stop it with the fear porn, it's a serious disease but it's not some mass death plague

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>>11510195

>> No.11510204

>>11510172
dumb frogposter

>> No.11510777

>>11510202
Please?

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>>11510777
Even with those digits, no can do