/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11487183
what the fuck is that image

>>11487183
bro what if smoking actually CURES cancer and every scientist in the last 40 years was just a retard? what if we're giving people cancer bro we should smoke instead

>>11487190
Artist is Charlie Immer and name is Sweet Skeleton. It's an oil painting I believe. Pic unrelated okay?

>>11487192
I told you to explain like I'm 5 and that I'm a noob. No reason to be excessively sarcastic like a 14 year old who just read nietzsche. Just entertain what I'm saying for one second. Or explain from the bottom up why I need to be socially isolated instead of trying to catch corona. If I get an immunity who cares if I spread it to others and they die? What if they virus mutates faster than say the flu, and I need to have the first in order to survive its evolution?

Fuck you guys. I'm gonna ask /pol/. Are you faggots happy I'm going to fucking pol for scientific conversation? I hope your happy.

>>11487183
It's a given that everyone is gonna get it, like everyone gets a flu.
It's about "flattening the curve" which means keeping the rate of infections below the capacity of nations health systems. Otherwise you get Italy .

>>11487183
Mindless contrarianism doesn't make you smart.

>>11487183
the mechanism of the pathology as far as I know is a mechanical damage to the cells that triggers inflammation. There's no toxins that have an intrinsic effect or anything like that, so the problem is just 'getting' the virus.

>>11487278
What do you mean? Unironically I'm stupid you need to explain like I'm a child.

>>11487278
Bro you suffocate and drown at the same time. That sucks

Imagine wasting millions of lives to build herd immunity and then the virus mutates. The global leaders would literally be slaughtered like animals on the street.

>>11487310
Thank you. Finally someone else sees what I see. Yea they would be slaughtered. If they weren't already dead from the virus.

>>11487183
you are gonna get covid anyway, the problem is not getting it, the problem is that everyone is getting it at the same time which collapses health systems increasing mortality drastically.

>>11487310
Reading just this one post was so validating. Thank you. We can't fight the virus if we can't mutate WITH it... like along with it. But, it feels like I'm crazy. Like I'm the only one to have this thought. But everyone thinks the government is right. No one sees how much humans were the problem to start with.

What if we socially isolate and only think that the death toll stops. What if in some way this would actually aid the virus in mutation? Because once it comes in contact with its self again the way each individual human had built up an immunity will collide with each others and make the next mutation even stronger. Since the virus will have all the information of those people who had individually built an immunity. Somehow keeping germs isolated in separate chambers then expecting society can ever come back together and be normal again? It seems so incredibly unwise.

And haven't viruses been responsible for leaps in evolution. Horizontal gene transfer right? What if the earth is trying to push not human extinction to save it's self but more rapid human evolution to save it's self instead? Like this is not a plague that is occurring its another 'missing link'?

>>11487329
The chance of accumulating enough mutations to avoid immunity immediately after reinfection is almost impossible. The mutated strain needs to start circulating in a population fast or else it hits a genetic bottleneck fast and the mutation is lost.

>>11487315
This is the real problem, the rate of contagion. What you want with the hygiene measures is to flatten the curve, as everyone says. In the aftermath you will see that most people are gonna get the virus anyway but since it will be in a longer period of time it won't be as much of a problem.

>>11487329
Maybe you are too young or you are forgetting that pandemics happen all the time. This is the third in this century alone.

>>11487310
There is no driving factor for any virus to kill it's host. Mutation could go either way.
You may aswell fret about the common cold mutating to give you AIDS.

>>11487344
Okay that makes sense but since we've never seen one like this before why should it behave that way?

>>11487183
Natural immunity doesen't apply to man made bioweapons

>>11487350
It's not about mortality rate. It's about having to lock down cities and the whole circus starting again, because bunch of know-it-all political bureaucrats didn't account for high mutation rate of RNA viruses and their nature to go seasonal by avoiding immunity.

>>11487386
Yea, how do you know its man made? Cos ChInA?

>>11487391
>high mutation rate of RNA viruses and their nature to go seasonal by avoiding immunity.

Explain this slowly please.

>>11487211
We are pol faggot but you'll find more people there

>>11487437
Cope.

>>11487310

>Imagine wasting millions of lives to build herd immunity and then the virus mutates.

That literally happened during the Spanish flu. The ones who had contracted the flu during the milder first outbreak possessed a basic measure of immunity against the deadlier second outbreak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Deadly_second_wave).).

Have any of the survivors had brain damage? Why do we think that the lungs & liver are the only organs being targeted here. What if the real goal is the brain. To alter human behavior?

>>11487520
You'll be fine

>>11487190
One of those angry wojaks in /biz/

>>11487527
fucking kek

>>11487527
So will 25% of people. I bet.

>>11487245

this
it's about slowing down the rate at which people catch the virus so hospitals aren't overwhelmed

Viruses can’t mutate to be resistant to both soap and ethanol, so we good on that front at least