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11485425 No.11485425 [Reply] [Original]

Why don't we work on increasing this instead?

What steps can we take?

>> No.11485499

Can’t do that when none of the equipment is produced in the country and there has been an artificial shortage of doctors for decades

>> No.11485507

>>11485499
this, this is what society gets for abandoning mercantilism by buying into the absolute and comparative advantage memes.

>> No.11485511

>>11485507
Yea when shit happens and it’s every country for themselves, suddenly you have shortages or can’t do things in a timely manner

Oh well it’s what everyone wanted

>> No.11485520

>>11485511
if only we were all in it for ourselves all the time the global manufacturing infrastructure wouldn't be centralized in china. every country would be manufacturing their own goods. and the first world wouldn't be just one giant service industry with fintechs keeping the wool over everyone's eyes convincing people that an economy that produces nothing is still moving forward. the problem is globalization. hell if we weren't so connected this wouldn't have reached our shores. but people wanted to travel and trade so we get pandemics where we won't be able to roll out a dozen or so hospitals with thousands of beds and equipment in a week like china did. it's no surprise that a tourist trap like italy has taken over china in deaths despite having a significantly smaller population.

>> No.11485523
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>>11485520
lmao fucking amazing. who would've thought communist chinese government was the most conducive form of government to have. The usa is starting to look liek a truly faild experiment in the midst of this. I guess we're gettin what's comin to us in the midst of the USA's disgusting capitalistic rampant greed. Is usa actually a country of compassion? Jesus we desperately try to convince ourselves we are but that has always just been hideous narcissism in disguise hasn't it. Looks liek China's authoritarianism is moar conducive to collective health and organization in the end. Holy shit america will fall

>> No.11485528

>>11485520
They design hospitals with zero extra capacity and so 10,000 cases in a country of 60 million is overwhelming

All a big joke as far as I am concerned
But hey we have authentic foreign food, urban art on every single wall, and the cost of living goes up 10% a year
Progress in action

>> No.11485533

Also 60 years of 1.5 TFR has led to this situation
Lots of old people waiting to die off

>> No.11485538

>>11485523
it's no surprise really, china is actually more honest about what they are by going with a 1984 playbook while the west pretends they are some arbiters of morality and fairness when really it's brave new world. but unlike the brave new world where all people were genuinely kept the west just relies on words. all this equality song and dance is just a distraction while the rich just kept getting richer. it's a giant potemkin village. so we'll get some journos writing about how equal the west is but all you need to do is step outside and see all the flexing at less fortunate going around. in china that is very much looked down upon. here it's glorified with celebrity culture that fuels this narcissism. china actually cracks down on those spoiled rich kids, but one doesn't have to wonder where they got this behavior when they all study abroad.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6454969/China-cracks-extravagant-weddings-stop-rampant-money-worship-declining-morality.html

>> No.11485544

Italy lets > 60 die in their homes instead of the hospitals, you should probably do the same but > 40 for women at least

>> No.11485552
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>>11485538
fucking heavy words bro. i wanna love my country (usa), i wanna love freedom but it really has simply bred an endless cycle of melodrama constantly creating/nurturing borderline/histrionic personalities. It's fucking disgusting, T.V. shows liek The Voice and The Masked Singer exemplify brave new world exactly liek you say. Stupid fucking people being spoon fed their happy rainbow butterfly and unicorn feelings keeping them brainwashed and sedated. Holy fuck, i HOPE america falls the disgusting narcissism disguised as altruism holy FUCK it's putrid

>> No.11485564

>>11485552
>T.V. shows liek The Voice and The Masked Singer exemplify brave new world exactly liek you say
Black Mirror Fifteen Million Merits

>> No.11485567

>>11485544
And instead China built the capacity to handle things
Real country vs joke western house of cards

>> No.11485569

>>11485552
sadly that is the case, fren. the part i'm not sure about is was this inevitable because of freedom or was the west easily hijacked by celebrity shit because of it but other outcomes were possible. the reason i hesitate to blame freedom is because i like it and there was a period when everyone in murrica was focused on getting to the moon. it wasn't this hollywood and sportsball shit but even the milkman cared about something worthwhile. now it's this narcissistic celebrity shit which seems to be the root of the problem, gimps everything. why occupy was doomed from the start. masses are too dumb and easily distracted with their narcissism fuel netflix (modern day bread and circus) to do anything about the situation. worse how many of those idiots worship celebrities. "sure kim kardashian is a huge diva bitch but she is so good at it lol", "beyonce is queen slay", "lol look at fouseytube flex on that homeless dude so funnay", etc. just burn it. burn it all.

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>>11485564
lol holy shit im actually lucky enough to have already seen this damn gud reference bro

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>>11485567
Those hospitals are already torn down because China can't build for shit. China is just a bigger house of cards since this shit isn't sustainable in the long run anyway.

>> No.11485580

>>11485425
Stop gatekeeping medicine and invest more, i've seen a lot of people who couldn't get into that career because they lacked 1 to three points.

>> No.11485582
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>>11485569
sheeeeeeiit i hear ya. i dont fucking know man it's a fucking mess. growing pains y'now? while most of american tv/film is disgusting self-indulgent horseshit i can not deny the few that have impacted me so very much emotionally. Braveheart. Gladiator. Donnie Darko. Joe with Nicolas Cage. Fucking growing pains god damn. In the end i think america has unbelievably high levels of empathy and compassion, even if it's infused with narcissism it's still super valuable and desirable. the lack of empathy and compassion in china is pretty scary. the experiment of life holy fuck.
also nice point on the milkman caring. I wish everyone cared about the simplest little things but you gotta be strong to do that as well lest you just come across as a pathetic little faggot. i fucking love pushing carts at the grocery store i work at.

>> No.11485586

>>11485576
>Those hospitals are already torn down because China can't build for shit.
that's not the reason why, and no that pic is not of the hospitals. rather they mitigated the curve and can accommodate patients in regular facilities.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-medical-workers-remove-masks-after-last-temporary-hospital-closes-2020-3

>> No.11485595

>>11485582
i'm just not sure how genuine that empathy and compassion are. they seem to be more there as a kind of signalling and distraction. to appear virtuous so when one of those celebs are caught diddling some celeb whore or something they can say "how can you blame me when i donate to the women's fund". and it's always "empathy" and "compassion" for what is fashionable. the planet, women, minorities, etc. not necessarily disadvantaged ppl. i mean say what you will about incels but those guys have been dealt the worst hand i can think of. and what does society do for them? bully them, ostracize them, exclude them, make them feel so unwanted that they go on these shooting sprees as a sort of pyrrhic catharsis for once in their lives.

>> No.11485613
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>>11485595
eh you got great points. I guess maybe they tried with The Joker on the incel note. But Joaquin Phoenix does seem liek a misguided delusional cock sucker whining about the fucking dairy industry or what the fuck else the whiny cunt was goin on about when he got his faggot award for being a faggot. I think it's a human condition though, i think pretty much all of us would struggle to be genuinely altruistic and for good reason, life exists to take advantage of everything it can. ive volunteered at soup kitchens and have offered money to people only to realize they are just addicts trying to exploit my compassion. So once again shit is a fucking mess. Altruism breeds predatory behavior in the form of deliberate helplessness and neediness which if not satisfied transforms into a miserable attitude with the potential for hostile aggression. Fulfilling purpose and instilling value into existence is one hell of a complicated and difficult endeavor.

>> No.11485626

>>11485613
you said it, fren.

>> No.11485627

>>11485595
>>11485613
schizos

>> No.11485629

>>11485586
So China will pop up a temporary hospital and everything that goes with it including WASTED CONCRETE, PLASTIC WASTE, MASS POLLUTION DURING CONSTRUCTION every time some poor farmer eats a bat. It's not sustainable. They're better off getting rid off their aging overpopulation like the west is doing.

>> No.11485631

>>11485499
>Can’t do that when none of the equipment is produced in the country
Just produce it in the country then. We have tradesmen and factories too

>> No.11485633

>>11485629
all that can be re-purposed and/or recycled.

>> No.11485644

>>11485633
bullshit

>> No.11485647

>>11485629
>Muh pollution

Pollution doesn’t matter. Plastic waste doesn’t matter.

>> No.11485649
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>>11485627
i guess you gotta be schizo to not be an npc faggot dumb cunt

>> No.11485672

>>11485647
You don't matter.