/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11469458
From the virus itself, not so much. I'm more concerned about the stores closing some day or the food running out because people are hoarding like selfish idiots.

I never buy tissues because I use TP to wipe my nose. Why buy more than one paper product?

>>11469458
Imagine, you are being psychiatric patient against your will and you are forced to go to the hospital to get periodical injection to be dumb for one more month, by uninstructed unsecure personal.

It's real thread to humans visiting that place, therefore I'm scared.

I guess they will take no real efford for me to not get infected even on regular visits.

Psychiatric hospitals are actually threads, where people can get infected all closed and locked up, nobody caring for the symptoms.

Patients are often there left in abandonment with weekly visit from personal.

Another thing is that there is no isolation for acute mentally ill.

Therefore they are left there to die literally, and I'm sure they'll get it.

Funny fact, the source of infection can be touch with food handling as there is same food provider for more hospitals

Even if they cook their own, I highly doubt somebody from personel will care, from my experience.

You probably wouldn't be even given meds, and everybody will ignore what you propose as medicament as usually.

>>11469458
It doesn't cause runny nose.

>>11469458
It won't de anything to me, but I'm scared for my grandparents

I'm not scared, but I am frustrated that most people seem incapable of falling between full panic and full apathy. This should be something that society can easily handle without imploding, but that is far too idealistic for this species. People can't just slightly shift their lifestyles to minimize transmission as a societal whole.

>>11469644
Agreed. Fuck me but I'm afraid for my parents.

>>11469912
It gets me angry how people can't accept even a little change in their life even if it is for a greater good. It would really help to fight off the virus.

>>11469497
I already can't get my groceries delivered like I usually do because the online delivery shut down due to thousands of retards suddenly putting in requests for pallets of water and $800 worth of canned corn

>>11469912
>>11470146
The reaction to this is turning lives upside-down. It's not some minor inconvenience. Millions of small businesses are going to go bankrupt because they don't have customers, and I'm sure those new SBA funds are going to be real easy to get. Even more people are going to be layed off or have their hours cut. Most people live paycheck to paycheck. This is going to fuck over so many people.

>>11469912
> most people seem incapable of falling between full panic and full apathy
And both of those extremes are allowing it to spread. The panicking people who rush to grocery stores with 1000 other people to stock up for a disease known for spreading rapidly in crowded areas, and the apathetic people who just go about their day normally like nothing is happening

>>11470210
> Millions of small businesses are going to go bankrupt because they don't have customers
>Even more people are going to be layed off or have their hours cut
I wish that was me. I work at a small business, but one that sells groceries. We've been completely swamped with people far beyond our capacity to operate with the handful of people that work there, doing 3x the profit we normally do on a good day and nobody getting a moment's rest the entire day. I'm working past midnight every night and coming in on my days off to deal with it and it gets worse every day. I wish the government would force us to close. I don't care if I don't get paid, and the store could easily afford to shut down for a while

>>11469624
It does as a later symptom.

>>11469458
runny nose isnt a symptom

>>11470170
I have been tempted to do that with toilet paper just because someone is going to take retards money, it might aswell be me.

A nuke on a small city would have been better. At least we could understand it. This virus is a mass psychological torture machine.

>>11470624
Only if you get your information from your friends, family and the media instead of experts.
If I was over 60 I would be a little more worried but even if you do get it (1 in 50,000 currently) you a have a ~88% chance of survival.

>>11470242
sounds like you deserve a raise, anon

>>11469458
Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

>>11470633
>currently
Would be comforting even idiots can forsee 10 days in the future.

>>11470641
>The average person uses 1 roll per day.
imagine the smell

>>11470642
Ok lets say it comes down to 1/100 odds of catching it and 1/8 odds odd dying if you get it, that is still under 0.2% odds of dying from it.

>>11469458
More frustrated than scared. There's really no point in being afraid of it; beyond taking some very basic, easy precautions, there's really not much you can do about it that will matter, and I'm not in a risk group anyway.
But it's a huge pain in the ass. Gym is closed, classes are cancelled, dumbasses are panic buying everything under the sun so I have to go to multiple grocery stores just to find what I need, every board on 4chan is 50% coronavirus threads...
It's totally disrupted fucking everything at this point.

>>11470641
I have old t-shirts and running water, believe it or not people were around before toilet paper.

>>11469458
For me it's both of these

>>11470138
>>11470677

>>11470641
> The average person uses one roll per day.
Seek immediate medical attention.

N-no

>>11469458
Not as much as I thought I would be but I don't really have anything to lose. Maybe If I had a family of my own, but I think this is a good reminder not to start one unless you can definitely handle it, unlike most people.

>>11469644
>>11470138
I know this feel, anons. And my gf is fucking asthmatic and allergic to everything to top it off.

>>11470217
Americans sure are legendary subhumans

>>11470641
>The average person uses 1 roll per day
...
>TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.
Dude, they will just resupply retard.
Plus the consumption is not going up, is the same. Just retards went to buy everything

>>11470641
>what is a shower

>>11469497
It probably would vary per country, but I used to work in a production plant that made soup. There were literally warehouses full of finished soup ready to be shipped out but not enough orders were coming in. Every time a batch sat there for 6 months the orders were to open all the soups, dump them into a vat, and re-sterilize them and re-package them as fresh. It would take a hell of a lot more than some panic buyers to deplete these reserves, since mine was a small plant and I'm sure other ones around the country followed the same procedures. The problem isn't running out of food, it's stopping the hoarders from coming back and buying seconds and thirds "just to be safe" when shipments come in .

>>11470170
>good muslims vs evil white man

Surely there is no ulterior motive to this news story.

>>11470677
Closing everything and cancelling events is just stupid. That just delays infection. Corona will still be around when sports events resume. They should just let it run its course now and get it over with.

Do I have the china flu?
>Day 1: light sputum, weird abdominal pain, thats it.
>Day 2: light sputum, diarrhea, weird feeling on my 12th rib. No fever, dyspnea, etc.
>Day 3: sputum gone, slight feeling of wanting to cough but not enough to do so. Diarrhea continues, other than that feel good.

>>11469458
Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 6 rolls per day. If you have a family of 10, that's 60 rolls a week. Over 1800 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it. I can't live without shitting. I sure do love shitting.

Can someone /sci/ explain to me why everyone is hating on the UK model instead of adopting it?
If we just have all the old/at risk/ weakened immune system people self isolate/quarantine Then have all the young people fucking go to town on spreading it amongst each other, we would build herd immunity faster, and the boomers would be able to rejoin society sooner. Plus we could deliver shit to the old people, and not have to sacrifise things like the NHL and the entire global economy.
Current strategy of just telling people not to do anything, they ignore you because young people have fun, shit gets out of hand and we lock down the entire coountry seems ineffective and worse for the old people. I get the strain on the medical system, but if we have all the young healthy people getting it, they dont need to go to the hospital.

Honestly /sci I'm worried and scared.

Not for myself. I think I should be okay. But I live with my parents and I work at a grocery store where I deal with thousands of people daily.
Grocery store workers are basically going to be the first people infected due to how many people per day we have to interact with and how we have literally no rights (Being serious here, a customer can physically threaten you and management will blame you for it because corporate WILL blame them for it, so you will be fired for not taking shit), so sick people are basically going to cough all over the employees.
My parents are both 70 each and that's when you're in getting into a good chance of dying.

I don't feel sick or anything but I'm constantly worried about the smallest symptom being a sign that I have a mild case; If I wake up with a stuffy nose or feel tired I worry that it might mean I'm one of the asymptomatic carriers.

>>11470242
Grocery stores are basically the one exception to the rule. They'll be kept open no matter what.

that being said, if you're one of the unlucky stores to have a corona virus case employee happen early in the outbreak, forget, you're fucked.
Everyone will avoid you forever after that.

>>11470641
Seriously this one roll per day thing is top kek.

>>11471124
>Grocery stores are basically the one exception to the rule
Yep. Every event that happens, whether it's serious or turns out to be nothing, fucks me.
>if you're one of the unlucky stores to have a corona virus case employee happen early in the outbreak, forget, you're fucked.
I'm waiting for that now. If one employee gets sick (or just quits from the stress), I'm fucked and will be doing 15 hour shifts every day with no breaks to cover it. If I get sick, we'll probably shut down.

>>11470641
>The average person uses 1 roll per day
What?
how often do you shit?

>>11471113
>why everyone is hating on the UK model instead of adopting it?

Probably because like the panic buying reality people see other countries doing mass quarantines and think 'hey we do should do that too! despite as mentioned and explained through official channels that the UK strategy is based on a sensible and pragmatic plan. If people simply stuck to it why shouldn't it work? I agree with you - it's the older and co-morbid populations who need to stay in - they don't need to stock up as we can implement a system of couriers to deliver their necessities. Let it circulate amongst the younger who will build up immunity (and not suffer nearly so severe reactions to it and hence not clog up our NHS system) and then the boomers can come out to play again now at least with the benefit of herd immunity and a healthcare system which will not be understaffed and under-resourced nearly so much which again brings down the mortality rate from COVID-19.

>>11469458
No, it's a hoax. You have a greater risk of starving to death.

>>11471109
Probably not. Your only symptoms are rare (diarrhea) in COVID-19, or appear later in the disease's progression (changes to sputum). You lack the most common symptom, fever, and the second most common symptom, shortness of breath.

You probably ate some bad lasagna.

>>11470774
> And my gf is fucking asthmatic and allergic to everything to top it off.

bawhhhhhhhhhh

>>11471113
>Can someone /sci/ explain to me why everyone is hating on the UK model instead of adopting it?

They can't handle our finesse.

They want ooga booga their black and white way. It's ok, we understand the intricacy of the microbiological world and its role in our world.

Let them flap.

>>11469458
Diarrhea is actually very common with COVID-19. So is lack of phlegm production (which is why a strong sign is a dry/non-productive cough).

>>11470170

there are two made up stories in life.

>>11469458
No.

Nor should you. COVID isn't the black plague. A stronger cold flu i'd say is what it is with the ability to make weaker bodies fail.

>>11471110
Kek

>>11471072
>Every time a batch sat there for 6 months the orders were to open all the soups, dump them into a vat, and re-sterilize them and re-package them as fresh.

That 's fucking disgusting. Aren't there laws against such practice?

So basically this virus was planted into batches of synthetic adrenochrome manufactured in Wuhan.

For the uninitiated, adrenochrome is the chemical released into the blood of tortured children, which is then consumed by satanic paedophiles as a euphoric, psychedelic drug that helps them commune with demons, which also has vitality properties that keeps them looking and feeling young.

The Trump administration have been taking out the traditional supply lines that the satanists use to get their children (Epstein being just a public display of what's going on behind the scences), so the paedos have been having to look for synthetic alternatives.

In a move of genius proportions, the US military infected these synthetic batches of adrenochrome with COVID-19 which will kill off the old satanists, and infect the younger ones, but they cannot flee because travel is shut down. By keeping the public away from large gatherings, the satanists can't get revenge or create a distraction with mass killings. There's going to be a lot of arrests taking place.

Enjoy the show, folks.

>>11471887
Sometimes I wish I was also schizophrenic so I could enjoy the made-up circus you fuckers seem to be addicted to.

>>11471892
The oxidation of adrenaline to the N-methylindolequinone, adrenochrome, is catalyzed by ferritin iron in the presence of Hz02 at acid pH.

>ferritin iron
>IRON
>THAT'S 2 FEs
>COVID-19

Covfefe - getting it now, brainlet?

>>11471887
if I had one wish, it would be exterminating schizos and psychos like you, you are literally everything that is wrong in this world. go buy toiletpaper, make a noose and kys

>>11471911
Don't make me jam that fedora of yours down your throat.

>>11471887

>>11471621

3 to 4 times a day, like any other person does.

>>11471100
Yeah good idea especially when we still know pretty much next to nothing about it and hospitals won't be able handle the load, just bring back the footy bro

>>11471113
If reinfection is possible, then the UK's method is fucked from the getgo.

>>11470210
This is why the government is pushing legislation to help. Personally I work a career (medium scale agriculture) that is planned to continue production as we are relatively isolated yet necessary for society.

The problem is most of these "businesses" simply are not providing necessary products or services. The only businesses that are going to be hurt are the ones that are clearly superfluous.

I'm not saying that I think people deserve to suffer and die and all that, but it's a cold hard truth that people want to avoid. We are inundated with unfortunately worthless careers.

>>11470674
>1/100 odds of catching
2/3 will get it within two years

>>11471929
you're a god damn goose
1 is normal, twice a couple times/week

>>11469458
yes, the worst thing about this is having brainlet normies giving their opinions about an issue they honestly don't understand

>>11469458
I miss only 1 (!) single exam to finish my degree that I was supposed to write next week.
And it got cancelled! Just like that because of Corona.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11472095
why are you posting shitty facebook memes? especially when it has already become obsolete.

>>11472095
Just because you're more likely to die to something else it doesn't mean it's harmless.
It just adds to all other chances to die, increasing your chance to die overall.
It also has sideeffects that may linger, it can also cause the death of your relatives by spreading it from you.
Being hit by lightning won't suddenly make your granny also die.

>>11470752
If you go off of south Korea number of 0.5% that will over 5 times higher and with a much higher transmission rate h1n1 will be rookie numbers compared to the Wuhan flu

>>11471911
Holy fuck that was good anon. Thanks for the laugh!

>>11471077
More like
>Selfless person caring for others vs greedy american cunt

>>11470170
>Two types of people in the world
One that owns a shop and would spend £2k on long-lasting positive advertisement, and one that doesn't own a shop and uses opportunities like this to make money

>>11471742
I'm imagining people calling 911 just to talk about corona ask for basic info while people having heart attacks can't get through

>>11469458
look at Taiwan
only 59 cases (biggest rise yesterday, +6 cases)
Taiwan acted very early and took stringent measures, before it even became a big problem in Wuhan
We should learn from them, the West is handling this very poorly

>>11472118
>source: the doo doo in your throat

>>11472510
The west is also 50,000 times larger than Taiwain.

>>11472594
?
Italy is 60m, Spain 46m
Taiwan is 20m and got infections earlier

>>11469458
I bought enough supplies to last me 3-4 weeks if push comes to shove. Basically, enough to weather a quarantine. I think more than that is excessive.

>>11472614
west = all of north america and all of europe

>>11472625
? let's compare italy with Taiwan

>>11472522
Eat a dick nigger
https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3

>>11472630
Taiwan wasn't being dumb is the reason they have less cases.

>>11472625
>american la creaturas
>western
lmao

>>11470774
mine too, god i hope she is okay man i fucking hate living 2000 miles away from her

>>11471929
Are you drinking water?

>>11472137
You must be joking. While those assessments aren't wrong these literally thousands of people doing that shit. You can already see the first response to it is about race and I have no doubt these examples were cherry picked with that in mind.

>>11469497
This desu

Why you guys always being mean to "boomers" but, you want yours to live.

>>11470641
Oh, Americans

I have underlying asthma condition and I'm starting to get worried because most days I start having short breathe, fast resting heart rate and it's hard to concentrate.

On top of that I might be in a state of overtraining, since i go to them gym 6 days per week and weight train for at least 2+.

I'm starting to think i might get really sick if I would catch this virus atm.

>>11471929
kek

>>11469500
>Why buy more than one paper product?
It makes you not look uncivilized and it gives the workers at the tissue plant something to do besides recreate.

>>11469458
Toilet paper is like tissues but comes in bigger sizes with more rolls? you can blow your nose with it all the same, stupid message

>>11471858
yes, it absolutely didn't happen, not in a first world country anyway

>>11469497
>tfw hoarding food like a motherfucker

Normies get fucked, should have prepped earlier, we fucking warned you.

>>11471887
Go back to /x/ and take your meds

>>11471887
Imagine believing in a literal made-up drug from the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Are you an anti-vaxxer too? Schizo retard.

>>11471113
Because they don't have enough hospitals to handle it. We are gonna be laughing in one week.
>Is ok bro, just let 10000 people be infected.

>>11471113

>>11471113
>don't know its full long term effects on the body yet.
>can cause permanent lung damage.
>reinfection is possible.
But no, lets get everyone infected and build immunity! What could possibly go wrong?

>>11470658
It's only because the average woman uses seven rolls per day.

>>11470641

what a rotten country this "America" is

>>11470641
Why don't Americans use bidets?
These babies will change your life.

Maybe it's the culture in my country but I can't shit if I don't have a bidet available. TP alone makes me feel dirty.

>>11473512
That gives me the same indifferent feeling as when people disrespect me for being white.

>>11470641
>one roll per day
holy fucking christ

>>11470217
This pisses me off. How hard is it to be smart and rational, not fucking stupid and scared.

>>11473520
How do you dry and avoid wetting your pants and underwear?

>have a grandmother with health issues.

>>11473490
Average American woman
>addicted to toilet paper

>>11473536
You use toilet paper or a special tiny towel which is for bidet use only. Though to be honest the towel thing is seen as kinda nasty these days, it was the norm like a century ago.

Most people use TP. You really save up on TP usage though, considering it's only to dry your ass.

>>11473520
Really it's just fucking weird. Like I'm okay with the ones that just shoot water at your ass, but this thing? Fuck.

I use 3 pieces of TP per shit which is two wipes, and 1 moist wipe. It's pretty much shower clean and I don't have to splash water on my ass.

>>11471947
You realize how idiotic that sounds right? You know that the virus would have to mutate drastically for somebody to get reinfected. And if you knew anything about biology or chemistry you’d know that is extremely, to the point of absurdity, rare.

>>11473044
You are having panic attack’s dude, chill out.

>>11473520
Good question
I would love to have. A lot of Europe already had these when we were making houses out of dirt in the middle of nowhere and getting water from outside. Water closets could be loaded with a bucket so toilets caught on first. Bidets exist here and always have. Rare though. Eastern victoians or expensive custom made homes. It requires a lot of retrofit for something we have lived without. There are kits to modify existing crappers but it still requires plumbing that the home builders didn't have in mind and there is fancy electricity garbage and I guess we don't want a complete remodeling or wires and hoses through holes drilled in cabinets. How do you pronounce, "bidet?" I hear different stuff all the time. I put in an expensive hopper that would accept the bidet kit but never got around to doing all the stiff to convert it. I use wet wipes and the shower. I like a clean arse.

>>11473543
>Like I'm okay with the ones that just shoot water at your ass, but this thing? Fuck.
It's the same thing. It shoots water at your ass.
If anything the classic bidet is more hygienic, because it's much easier to clean on a regular basis. My mom has one of those fancy Japanese toilets and the plastic thingy that shoots water at you got all shoddy and nasty-looking very fast. Nobody uses it anymore.

>I use 3 pieces of TP per shit which is two wipes, and 1 moist wipe. It's pretty much shower clean and I don't have to splash water on my ass.
Sounds like a good workaround. I use baby wipes when on vacation on a non-bidet country and it does the trick.

>>11473588
>I would love to have. A lot of Europe already had these when we were making houses out of dirt in the middle of nowhere and getting water from outside. Water closets could be loaded with a bucket so toilets caught on first.
I guess it's a cultural thing. Here in Argentina every house has a bidet. But cross into neighbouring Brazil, even South Brazil which had a lot of Euro migration and there are no bidets to be found anywhere.

>How do you pronounce, "bidet?"
Here we use the French pronunciation, with a silent "t". I guess in English a phonetic spelling would be "Bid-E" (with the "e" pronounced as in "energy")

>>11473626
Bidet should be pronounced "buh-day"

>>11473065
The only reason to prep is because you hoard.

>>11473050
Quiet jew

>>11470210
That's what you get for being a wagecuck

Odds US cases peak by next Sunday? Feeling pretty good about those odds after comparing to the daily case additions of other major countries.

>>11471929
Nice bait

>>11470738
I'm American. I take large shits, multiple times per day. This is completely normal.

>>11473902
I take at least two to three in the morning then one after lunch.

>>11473802
Noted. ??? Feels comfy to say.
>>11473626
Sorry, I assumed you European but same is true. I think, your country was more sophisticated than most of ours when plumbing was popularized. There is the other side of the coin. I live in California and there is a lot of old crap. I grew up in Kansas and there was nothing. When I go back to visit, it is a high tech wonderland, compared to everyday things in cali. Kansas grocery stores have touch screens and telephone lines are fiber optic. It is because they were late to gain technology and, therefore, got the latest technology, while California was more advanced but still using the tech that was the latest at an earlier time. Shit is weird.

Something about all this just isn't adding up
Out of all the viruses that cropped up over the past few decades none of them were treated like this not even close
Now all of a sudden the flu 2 shows up and everybody panics like we're on the brink of an extinction event
I don't buy any of what's going on right now at face value I'll tell you that much

>>11469458
no because i want to die

>>11474000
That's because most of the other diseases didn't get out of china or couldn't spread easily.

The only reason why everyone is panicking is because its here NOW. If it hadn't made it out of china nobody would give a shit.

>>11474000
None of the viruses over the past few decades were like this one. This isn't flu 2 boogaloo, this is SARS 2. Less deadly than SARS, but much, much easier to spread as well.
The insane control measures are being put in place because this thing hits a sweet spot of being JUST bad enough to put a huge amount of old people in the hospital, but benign enough that it's almost impossible to stop it spreading because most healthy non-geriatrics barely notice it, if at all.
The prevention measures are intended to try and avoid the really, really bad scenario of ending up with 30,000 sick people and 10,000 beds.

>>11469458
I'm currently dildoing my asshole.

>>11474000
the difference is that this virus is bonkers contagious, and can spread asymptomatically

>>11473044
>since i go to them gym 6 days per week and weight train for at least 2+.

Stop going to the gym. Wash your hands more frequently. Avoid crowded places. May as well do what you can to mitigate your risk.

>>11473539
Is she not basically at risk any given day

>>11469458
all that scares me is how weak and vulnerable people's minds are

>>11473520
The only reason someone would have a bidet is if they're worried about cum in their farts.

>>11469458

I’m more scared of the economic impact desu

>>11469497
fpbp.
People are downright hysterical in ways even I in all my cynicism didn't expect. So far coronachan is more clement than influenza, let alone the mexican flu, yet everyone's hoarding shit like the world's ending even here were we have 100 cases among 100 million and the people who are infected are hundreds of kilometers away.

Corona will kill us all

>>11471113
Viruses mutate, immunity is temporary (with extreme cases like tetanus being weeks to the end of immunity, while things like chicken pox being almost forever, but only because it stays dormant inside your body and gives you shingles in older age), ADE and other phenomena means immunity for one strand could kill you if you get any other strand (influenza vs variants like h3n4 and h1n1, and dengue fever, are examples of this).
Moreover it means the hospitals have no capacity to deal with the severe cases that present themselves.

>>11470641
>>11470641
Not using a bidet

>>11471773

>>11471929
>3 to 4 times a day, like any other person does.

Definitely a burger

>>11471911
>if I had one wish

>>11474490
Motherfucker, you had shit on any other part of your body you wouldn't simply wipe it off, you'd wash it off

USE WATER you heathen

>>11474022
Fair summary
Bad but not apocalyptic
Very bad for social infrastructure

>>11474372
based analysis

>>11469497
This
The sheer volume of fear and panic and misinformation is spreading worse than the actual effects of the virus

I* blame social media and hollywood

>>11469458
No. Viral infections are for amateurs. 1% acetic acid in aqueous solution is an incredibly powerful broad-spectrum germicide. It kills yeasts (this is basically what Summer's Eve is), bacteria and viruses like napalm while being perfectly tolerable to the cells of our bodies.

1% is far less than the strength of acetic acid used for culinary purposes (typically 4-7%). It can be eaten and drunk, its vapors inhaled, put in a plastic squirt bottle and sprayed on the skin (do this after every shower you take in municipal water), and indeed squirted into your navel or whatever other pockets your particular body may have.

IF YOU HAVE GERMS, YOU DID NOT DO THE HOMEWORK.

>>11475742
This.