/sci/ - Science & Math

Light is pretty weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjHJ7FmV0M4

>>11446124
How do you measure through which slit did the photon/electron went?

>>11446124
man is starting to interact and evidentiate the multidimensional reality

>>11446124
I FUCKING love science too

>>11446124
How do you know if the act of measuring is not influencing on the result?
These are sub atomic scales after all

>>11446124
Or we can ignore it entirely and say its fake and the math is just a abstract tool with no real world implications. That's what we currently do. We don't need to understand reality with physics, we just need an effective tool. We can leave the reality explanations to religion/philosophy, science should not be in the business of explaining what is real/not, but what is useful/not.

>>11446124
It sucks that no one can grasp them because they are young earth creationist they lol.

>>11446566
Lol.
>>I watched too much Alice in wonderland as a kid and think Schrodinger's Cheshire cat is real.

>>11446161
You can't. That's heisenbergs uncertainty principal.
An active observation interferes with the result.

>>11446124
no they arent except if you are a brainlet

You guys would get better results if you stop using artists interpretations and anecdotes as evidence.
And started using actual experiments.

And you can do quantum phasor paradox with microwaves.


Maxwell's equations can be used instead of special relativity.
You just need to learn calculus ;)

>>11446573
>knowing/measuring the outcome changes the outcome

is this related in anyway the time travelers paradox? that is you travel to the past but try not to change anything, but simply having knowledge of future events is enough to change the future, therefore any predictions about the future you had are no longer accurate. measuring/knowledge of the outcome has changed it

>>11446587
maxwell's equations fall directly out of special relativity. why would we prefer one over the other when they're mathematically equivalent?

>>11446124
Can someone explain electron phase to me

>>11446124
the implication is that I can CONTROL stuff with my MIND. deal with it

>>11446741
>the implication is that I can CONTROL stuff with my MIND

No.

>>11446576
Measuring both slits changes the outcome of the experiment and light acts as both particle and wave depending on HOW you measure it. What is wrong with this statement and why? I'm curious and aware I cannot use telepathetic powers.

>>11446692
Time travel is impossible.
We are moving at a million miles a day.
If you went back a few years you would be light years away lol.
So you need a spaceship as well.
That can work in the void of intergalactic dead zone.

And it can warp drive or does it teleport?

To get you back to earth.
And how many years will it take you to get back to your home planet?

Quantum physics isn't real.
Nature has LAWS not theories.
And you cannot break these laws.

How fucking big does the particle accelerator need to be to get a result lol?
The size of the sun?
How long does it take to find a particle that only exists in your imagination?

>>11446708
So Einstein's equations are complete?
Go get you Nobel prize son.
:)

>>11447379
And are you going to get there in a Kazakhstani kerosene powered rocket like NASA does, to the magical shipping container in the sky where stuff floats.
And that's all.
Thousands of hours of footage of people doing flips in zero G.

If they don't explode on the way up lol.

Next time you are all bitchin about my theories.
Just remember, I gotta listen to
"Kerosene powered warp speed teleporter time machine"
And tell me more about the train doing light speed.

Also when you get to Lightspeed.
In your NASA built fibreglass shuttle, and it DOESNT explode on take off
How do you slow it down?

>>11447401
Yes tell me more about how you are persecuted for having a dissenting argument on 4channel.
This website is good because bullying is still allowed. We voluntarily expose our every thought to the harshest possible criticism because it is somehow beneficial to be forced to defend oneself often from ideological attacks.

>>11447679
I am a friendly entity lol.
Aligned with the side of pure good.
You have been tricked by an evil malignant 1400 year old entity that hates science.
And owns the world's largest optical telescope.
And runs the Vatican quantum research laboratory.
And is heavily involved in particle research.
There is no photon
There is no particle smaller than an electron.
Light is just a wave, propagating in the background cosmic electromagnetic ocean that permeates the observable universe.
You are studying religious dogma.
None of the experiments you ever reference are real.
There are no quantum experiments lol.
How can a cat be alive and dead?

Where is the evidence my friends?

>>11447824
There is no "god" particle brother.
God isn't real.
Not in a scientific way.

>>11447831
MKULTRA Trigger word: QUANTUM

Just take the fucking lightpill anon.
For the love of God.
It's Quantumgate lol.
It's so awesome.
*Forces lightpill into anons mouth and massages his neck like when you you give a dog a worm tablet*
"Anon puts up a mighty struggle, desperately resisting accepting the true magic of light*

>>11447679
You are all the crowd, that stood around and watched as the tried to burn Galileo, and cheered because he was a heretic, and they burned heretics.
The same people are in charge.
And after they burned millions of little girls they can't get away with burning people anymore.
So they have to resort to more insidious ways.
When officially did the Vatican admit defeat lol?
When did they lose?
What date?

You live in a fantasy land.

>>11447871
That literally never happened. The Vatican gave Galileo the “go ahead” to publish on heliocentric, and only requested that he not politicize it. He thumbed his nose at them and politicized it anyway.
You call every one else sheep but you just gobble up pop history.

>>11446792
the particle goes through both slits. "measuring" through which slit it goes is interfering with the particle so that it goes through only one instead of both. how do you think we "measure" these particles? you can only by interacting with them and that interaction changes what they do

this should be obvious yet brainlets misinterpret this as "conscious observers" "chaaaanging reality". the experiment doesnt do shit based on whether you look at it or not with your own eyes. it changes based on whether a detector is placed at the slits. this is why a popular saying among physics professors is "shut up and calculate" because nothing in physics is misinterpreted as much as quantum physics, especially by people who dont even know what a Schrödinger equation looks like

>>11447840
Newfags can't triforce

>>11446748
>No.
yep deal with it retard. i control the wavefunction with my consciousness

>>11447904
I'm sorry man.
This is what wiki says.
He was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy", and forced to recant. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.[12][13

Why do you dissgree?
Where is your alternate history from?

"The super fun happy candy version of history where the Vatican weren't child sex predators who did heaps evil shit"
Yeah that book is full of lies.

>>11447840

MKChigger nigger word: TRIGGER

>>11446124

Dont the slits just act like some sort of prism and scatter the light into three distinct columns for each slit?

>>11446176
God i hate them

>>11446221
Brainlet.

>>11447379
Are you implying CERN hasn't gotten results? Kek, that's delusional, even for you.

>>11446124
Bam. a world where I didn't type this post was just created. Good luck other me.

>>11448960
Man I try to be as nice as I can.
Because deep down I found this so hilarious I feel like my heart might burst with joy.
Lots of other complex emotions that I enjoy too, like a fine wines flavour palette you know.

I always hated religion.
Like Gandhi said "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians", because it was just an excuse to do evil in front of everyone.

Before I go on some massive rant.
*Puts leg up on tree stump and starts smoking corncob pipe, wearing an old sweater that keeps getting warmer with age*

What I am trying to say is,
"THE POPE IS LIEING TO YOU ABOUT HOW SCIENCE WORKS!!!!"

And I can say that as loud as I want without feeling crazy.

Because that is my entire argument.
If the Vatican owns the university, and owns the teachers, and also owns the politicians, and they are peer reviewing their own papers.

Who exactly do you think is making sure all the science is valid?
When every scientist of the peer review board is a fundamentalist young earth creationist .......

Where do you think the quantum physics papers you write go?
Or does no one read them so it doesn't matter anyway?
And you are all getting angry that I'm fucking up your grant farming pyramid scheme?


You are reading young earth creationism whenever you read quantum mechanics.

I am so sorry.

>>11448960
What were the results anon?

>>11447831
>God isn't real.
>Not in a scientific way.
Science isn't real. Not in a divine way.

>>11448960
I am declaring that they have never gotten quantum results.

It is a statement.

And it is true.

It all depends if you make your decisions based of anecdotes and artists interpretations.
Or
Actual evidence and actual experiments.

You have no evidence.
I have all the evidence you could ever need, to either disprove quantum mechanics.
Or prove the alternative statement.
That light is always a wave.
Because that's what the data says.

we still dont know shit

>>11449075
I know.
You must believe in god based off faith.
It has always been like that.
Using a particle accelerator to find god is an interesting concept.
Because it lets me know that you are unsure.
Because you don't need evidence to believe in god.
And you will never find evidence to believe in god. And that's in the bible.

It just let's me know deep down that if this hadn't been institutionally forced inside your mind when you were too little to know the difference.
You wouldn't believe in God or quantum mechanics.

Because what adult scientists would listen to such absurd insane gibberish.

>>11448076
Well shiver me chiggers,
Got my finger on my trigger,
Do you remember when the church killed all those innocent ............
Black people.
(The church used a different word for black people, shit was fucked up)

>>11449083
That's because you are reading textbooks from 1900 lol. It's called an "outdated reference"

Really old textbooks are filled with concepts, accepted at the time, then later abandoned because of new scientific ways to explore them.

It's called "Science"
Just to start you off.
Artists interpretations and anectodes, while both a valid scientific tool. Are not evidence or proof. They are data. Quantum mechanics is a way to use thought experiments to build new concepts, ideas hypothesis and theories.

To be tested.
The ideas were all untestable. Because of observational limitations.

QM was abandoned during the Manhattan project, as the government made the scientists work on doomsday shit.

You guys know doomsday devices are evil right ? Lol

For people that think comic book science is real you people sure do get forgetful about the definition of good and evil.

>>11448037
You are such a dick for not using my buzzword.
>electromagnetic ocean
Seriously what the fuck is your problem?
Just say aether.
Are you controlled opposition or something?

OPs picture is a drawing
You can all see that right?
Like "anime", you know. Like
Cat-girls, like I can picture a real catgirl, I can just stick some cat ears and a tail on a prostitute and I'm not going to know the difference.

It's not a real catgirl though.....

Quantum mechanics is the anime cat girl of science.
Elon musk is funding it apparently.
Everyone wants one.
And nerds fucking love it.
Imagine a cat,.that looked like a hot girl that was so stupid you could get it to have sex with you because no real human wants to.

That's quantum mechanics.
Yes..I have seen the drawings.
Yes, I would love it if it was real.

The problem is, anime and quantum mechanics isn't real.
It is fantasy.

Quantum mechanics is the sexual fantasy of everyone who wanted to be a real scientist when they grow up and never got to.
Because the church and the military ended up in charge of it.

>>11449094
>Because you don't need evidence to believe in god.

I need evidence to believe in anything. Beliefs without evidence are just fucking dumb.

>>11449049
This is based as all fuck, but you LOSE POINTS on your performance review because you continue to use only Vatican approved terms.
(((whoever the boogeyman turns out to be)))
Clearly prefers "quantum foam" to luminiferous aether but no, it's "background cosmic electromagnetic ocean" you fucking pleb I am so sick of your shit. Get it together spartan, you are exposing the entire formation with that backwards pageantry.

>>11449212
Which buzzword?
I'll use it lol.

I was trying to make it more visual,
I suspect you are trying to make me use the word "field" so we can spend 2 months debating what "field" means.

Haha. I have fallen for that before :P

"Aether was disproven by michealson morley brother, the Christian scientists in charge of disproving Young's twin slit experiment.

www conspiracyoflight.com" has the michealson moreley done with more sensitive laser interferometry if you need proof, or the method on how to do the experiment yourself.

So I don't use the word aether, although I would like to.

What do you mean by controlled opposition?

I would like to live to see humans go to the moon.
So I need to remove the obstacles in place.

The Vatican is that obstacle.
Quantum mechanics is the cancer of modern science.

You should help me :)
There is treachery afoot.

>>11449221
Oh shit, I mean, michealson moreley was a hoax.

The experiment wasn't sensitive enough to detect the background electromagnetic field, or "aether"

But www.conspiracyoflight.com built a more sensitive one.
And it does detect the aether.

I meant to say.

>>11449221
You are incorrect to assume that no aether drift means no aether.
Actually, I would go further than that and suggest that you are disingenuous, and that you are intentionally promoting misinformation.
In fact, now that you've made the grave miscalculation of presenting me with a religious angle, I'm going to turn it around on you 180 and have you on the business end of the stick.
Christian mysticism is 100% aether theory territory, you can't turn my own herd against me.

>>11449229
It's so hard to keep track of who knows what.

>>11449237
If you think I am in anyway your enemy, then you misinterpret my intention.

I am talking about bad men.
Doing bad things.
For their own diabolical ends.
Men with machine minds.

Using science to corrupt religion.
Using religion to corrupt science.

A priest who does something evil,
Is no longer a priest.
A doctor, who violates the Hippocratic oath, is no longer a doctor.

Neither of these men.
The former priest, or the former doctor, now have anything to do with either religion or medicine.
They are now criminals.
And criminals do not speak for men of God, nor men of science, nor men of good.

And that is all religion or science was ever for.
The betterment of mankind.

I am attacking criminals.
Hoaxter con-artist charlatian criminals.

That is all.

>>11449243
I have been researching this conspiracy for decades. I learned quantum mechanics to solve it.
I hate maths lol.
And it takes me years to learn it.

But I have it all catalogued.

It's just a really big hoax.

But I can answer any questions you have.
I have names, dates, places, faces,
And I could present it in a legal battle in court and win.

This is very hard to believe.
But I can give you any evidence you might require lol.

>>11449217
Lol. Thanks man.
I have a collective if you ever want to battle an evil super entity in a rag tag team of very motivated people.

You can find us if you look hard enough :)

Safety not guaranteed.

>>11449373
It's not like they have the most advanced weaponry on earth or anything.

>>11449360
Take your meds.

>>11449417
So I can forget what "peer reviewed" means.
And use a non-peer reviewed experiment like the "Stern-garlach", done by a Nazi war criminal, and use it as evidence for spin state theory lol?

Can I use "the cat is alive and dead" as proof of photonic state theory?

Can I be a quantum physicist without ever learning the equations? Like all of you.

Can I have a quantum-waiifu who will agree with me no matter what I say.
In an idealogical echo chamber where no one can be wrong.

"We are in a alien VR game, when you die you wake up, and your and alien and all your my little ponies and katanas and fedoras are just wer ou eft them, my whittle pony and mwy quantum gf awe awll I need."

And then you just sperg out in the spaceship. With the aliens and the virtual reality.
I love how quantum is keeping up with popsci like that.

And I need to take the meds?
You mean the fugue state inducing hypnotic sedatives
I'll be right lol.
I can just pretend to understand quantum mechanics like the people in charge do ;)
I don't need to drug myself so it makes sense.

>>11447379
>Time travel is impossible.
You are literally travelling through time right now as we speak.

>>11449556
There's no such thing as time. You can't travel through something that does not exist.

>>11449373
I bet it's a discord group of mumbling autistic faggots and frankly I don't work well with others.
But I am interested in giving them hell for all eternity at the cost of my life.

>>11449579
The bad guys, I mean. Enforcers of ignorance

>>11449556
"Time" is a measurement.
Measurement is relative.
As it is a made up value.

We measure in "days" right, 24 hours in a day. Weeks,.months, years, based of the movement of our planet, with the sun as a reference point

Hours, minutes, seconds, milliseconds are gradations of this solar movement measurement.

Time is an astronomical reference.

"It happened when the sun was this many arc radian degrees from this measurement.

But some people have a different sun.
Like in the Arctic.
Daytime for 6 months.
How you gonna use your sundial now brother?
Has time stopped?

So we measure vibration of ceasium atoms with lasers lol.

Because they are always vibrating the same

Oh wait. What if I deviate from standard temperature an pressure?
What if I put the atomic clock in liquid helium?
And slow down the vibration of the atom?

Am I slowing down time?

You dont understand time because you were lied to.

Time is a relative (meaning different from different perspectives, or "observation points", different measurement angles)
Human created measurement of our shared, but very different perspectives, so that we can relay information to other humans and share information.
Just like language itself.

How come the 4chan time is different to my clock time on the wall.
Which is also different to my watch time and yours.
Are we time travelling?
Are we fractal facets of a miltiverse simulation?
Why do my friends online keep saying it's night time, it's daytime where I am.
OMG how does this all work.

>>11449559
>Relativity is wrong cus I dunno

>>11449597
Instead of time it would be local gravitational field intensity or something but relativity is a useful tool either way you interpret it.

Something i ve been wondering about this experiment.
What would happen if say we had 3 slits, and we put a detector in only one of them to detect if anything goes through it, how would a particle react?
Would it act like a particle only through the slice we make the measurement or through all of them?

>>11449579
For someone who uses 4chan you seem to really hold yourself in high regard.

Who exactly are you trying to find here.

I'm autistic and I have "faggot" in my name.

Yes. It is a discord full of autistic faggots, best stay here as a loan wolf.

You guys can get back to working out how decimals work lol.

You will never get the opportunity.

Have fun doing team based research by yourself lol.

So if it was going to take a team.of ten, ten years. It's gonna take you more than a lifetime.

I won't hold my breath on your research lol.

But it's ok.
I to work independently of others.
We share ideas though.
And it's working out just the way I hoped.

>>11449663
What experiment do you mean?
What's it called, who did it, what year?
Did they get a nobel prize?

>>11449417
Hol up a minute.
Time out guys
"Take your meds"?
Are you all aware that "meds" are psychoactive drugs?

Do you mean amphetamines? Speed for ADD, or Xanax? Or deleriant sleeping medication like Ambien?
Or the antipsychotics that are causing all the mass shootings?

So you are telling me to take a big load of drugs?
That I would go to prison for without the script. Or if I sold them.

And I take all of these so I can "understand" quantum physics?

What in the fuck are you retards up to?
Holy shit.
"Let's mass medicate and study abstract metaphysics"
Are you aware you are in a cult lol?

And I am the "non-believer" you have to shun?

Oh my fucking god go outside.

Is this real, I thought most of you were LARPing.

>>11449579
You are more than welcome though.
Address is in the archives.
Join the party brother.

aren't photons just toroids?

>>11446183
You don't. You're literally measuring light. How do you do that? Cast light on it. It interacts. People who thinks this proves subjectivism or free will are pseuds

>>11449748
Define "photon" then define "toroid"

Are the definitions the same?
If the definitions are the same then they are the same.

>>11449753
In what scenario does measuring particle and wave movement and interaction have anything to do with human psychology?

What?

There is no light in our brains.

We used to have a saying back before everyone was fucked up on pharmaceuticals all the time.

We said "mang, I love you, but you need to get off the drugs."

Measuring light in a lab is not mind control magic that gives you psychic powers.

What is happening lol.

>>11446124
ITT: the observer meme and his supposed influence

>>11449711
I won't be baited into a discord group. You should be so lucky lmfao

>>11449863
I guess it's lonely at the top :(
In my ivory tower lol.

This debate would be more fun if we were throwing QUANTUM shade at each other.

What's your favourite experiment that proves quantum?

And by experiment I mean "experiment" like with real dates and photos.

Not like whatever you lot think experiment means.

You know,.the science definition of "experiment"

Let's try as in the name of the scientist who did it. The date. Where. The method and conclusion.

I challenge you to show me a quantum experiment.
I am calling you put in front of all your peers.
You are wrong.
Put up or shut up.

Evidence, now. Or admit defeat.

Quantum mechanics is a hoax.
Prove me wrong.

>>11449863
You will never find the discord.
You are not smart enough.
Anger and quantum mechanics cloud the horizon of your mind.
The cognitive dissonance is my defence mechanism against intruders.
The sigils drive them mad.

>>11446124
We are in a simulation. That's why dark matter reacts to being observed.

>>11449904
What's dark matter?

What experiment showed the existence of dark matter?

When was dark matter observed and reacted?

You are not in a simulation.
You are reading Vatican flat earth propaganda and thinking it's science.

>>11449904
You could almost say that
Hoaxfag works for the side of light.
And all you darkies, (people who believe in dark matter using faith)
Work for the side of dark.

Sortof like good and evil.
Light versus dark.
I wonder which side the people that systematically rape thousands of children and burn little girls are on.
You know, the Vatican.
The dark matter guys.

How biblical lol.
I feel like a god.
*Rides wave after wave of exquisite euphoria*
All I need is one anon, to post one actual experiment. Instead of fantasy art like in OPs picture.

And my ivory tower would crumble.
Leaving only your ebony beacon of quantum Vatican lies.

But something is stopping you from proving me wrong?
And you juuust can't quite work out what it is.

Because you got played like a bitch lol.

That feeling sucks balls.
But you will get over it.

Only in America could Christians get tricked into worshipping an actual "force of darkness" made up by pedophiles wearing red shoes,
From a government that were actual Nazis 70 years ago.
And the pope took an actual oath to Hitler when he was in Hitler youth.

And that my friends.

Is how you all got tricked into worshipping the devil.
Or Moloch depending on who you ask.

Your god wears red shoes and rapes little boys.

It's time to stop.

>>11449974
Okay now that you have revealed your power level thoroughly, what is your thesis?

>>11449579
>>But I am interested in giving them hell for all eternity at the cost of my life.


That's because you work for the devil.
Take your weak illusionary dark powers and fuck off.

What is it about quantum mechanics and the devil.

>>11449996
Bro you are spiraling the fuck out. As a full time schizo-poster, even I can see that shit. Eat chemical restraints.

>>11449990
Do you really want to know?

Ok, now this is all code.
So I'm hinting at something else.
Possibly drug synthesis and guns.
Also I have schizophrenia.
So maybe this is a dream?

Anyway lol.

My whole thesis is
"Light is always a wave"

Like how microWAVES, and X-RAYS, and gamma-WAVES

all electromagnetic radiation is waves.
Light is just electromagnetic radiation.
Electrons moving in valence shells induce a wave in the background cosmic radiation. Electrons are negatively charged, and thus interact with this field.
Use Maxwell's equations if you like maths.

That's my whole theory

Have you heard of the corpuscular light theory from hundreds of years ago?
The original light particle theory.
Youngs twin slit experiment disproved it.

It was christian science ;)
Remember alot of those mathematicians were devout.

The Vatican was furious
So they invented a science with corpuscular light.
Particle theory. Photons.

That was a hundred years ago.
We live in the consequence now.

>>11450002
Thankyou for the advice :)
Are you talking about the restraints that makes everyone think they are in virtual reality?

Lol. I'm good man :)

I think I was finished posting anyway.

This was a good thread.
Didn't even derail into childish name calling :)

There is hope for us yet.

>>11450018
Eh, I'm late to responding to your weirdness, so here's the obvious:

The points which orient the behaviors of each "ray" of light are themselves affected by the forces oriented around those points, causing light to behave with frequency and waveform due to oscillating self-interference.

To a lesser extent, all matter behaves in this manner, each individual point effecting change on itself while continually being effected upon by other points and forces.

Shrug on the rest, you're busy with nonsense

>>11450018
What makes you so sure that these events are not simply fabrications?
It can only hurt my campaign to shill for the dynamic luminiferous aether if you continue to schizopost over the top. Did you ever stop to think hey maybe less is more and I should stick to what I know?
Hoarding of technological knowledge is typical dominance strategy, the boogeyman is everyone who is complicit in this scarcity driven predatory behavior.
Saying it was the Vatican is just asking for a thread derail.
God I mean, did you have a traumatic experience with the catholic church or what?

>>11450002
Lol I like your serial number
Number "2"
If you are a schizo poster you should get a handle, how else can we find your posts in the archive?

>>11450030
being identifiable defeats the whole purpose

>>11450024
You didn't really make a point man.
And you are not late.
You are just posting a stream of disconnected consciousness.
A word salad.

That is why the god of 4chan designated you "number 24"

That is your approximate rank in this thread in terms of contribution.

I know how light works brother.
What are you trying to tell me?

>>11450035
Oof, mean-spirited.

Well, I haven't heard of anyone else saying light works like that. Seems to me you don't particularly care.

Why word-salad? Did you lose your train of thought? Sorry if it wasn't interesting enough for you

>>11450029
You sound very eloquent.
I agree somewhat with a "dynamic luminiferous aether" more than I agree with contemporary quantum mechanics.

Perhaps we are in agreement.
And it is the terminology we disagree on.
Some of these science words are hard lol. It's hard to convey meaning to strangers online you know.

I know all the technology available.
And how it works and how to make it.
What do you need to know?
About Earth tech?

>>11450034
Then I will call you "number 2" :p

I drew this for you.
It's the heirarchy

>>11450046
I apologise.

I have been posting all day on 4 Chan for months lol..my edges are frayed.

Let's start again.
I am very interested in anything you have to say.

I am sorry.

>>11450054
Good job! You got past it.

Light is not a particle or a wave. It is a phenomenon resulting from the interaction of matter, with both wavelike and particle-like aspects.

>>11450046
Hey, you said I was busy with nonsense.
In your opening statement, I was just responding in kind lol.
That's human behaviour mang.
:)

>>11450061
I was about to post about that: sorry for putting it as "nonsense".

It might feel very important to you, but if it doesn't help your life, what's the point of focusing on such things? There's many similar subjects, the world is deep with terrible things which shouldn't be accepted as somehow normal, but to what end does understanding that help anyone?

I, for one, have abandoned anything but mild acceptance of fuckery as relatively unimportant in the face of the grand, abject, uncaring face of the universe

>>11450059
The particles, matter, protons neutrons and electrons, induce field changes in the background "heat soup" left over from the big bang
It's the static you get on a tv.
They guys that discovered it got a Nobel prize.
60 years after Einstein's theories

He didn't know about the background EMF "aether", and so his equations are incomplete.

That is what is missing from the grand unified theory

But we are not allowed to say "aether", they are saying "quantum fluid" lol

How could Einstein make accurate equations without all the variables?

Quantum mechanics was a way to "build around it"

>>11450029
I did have a very traumatic Vatican related experience.

I studied quantum mechanics for ten years and found out at the end that it wasn't real lol.

I got mind raped :(

Rather than the usual way children get raped by people from the Vatican.

Thanks god ;)

But you know what they say at the Vatican
"You gotta rape something"

>>11450070
That seems to lead to a "turtles all the way down" view, if the "aether" is boggling quantities of subatomic, sub-quark, sub-boson pieces of reality.

>>11450077
Sorry for your trauma, though that can't be anything but incidental. Science, as a whole, is at-best "most-real", in that it's always subject to better explanations and more plausible conditions.

Good science rejects the wrong and accepts the more-right, even if it still isn't quite reality. You're always better off changing, since everything changes anyway

>>11450064

I'm building a particle accelerator.
Using quantum grant money.
To synthesise precious metals.
With a team of elite scientists lol

And I am going to take over the world.

Because that's what they do at CERN.

And the best part is.
Even if you know my name and address.
Even though transmutation is on Wikipedia and very easy,.and there are international treaties on the sale of synthetic precious metals.

No one knows it's real


So if you go to the police. They will think you are crazy.

*Puts finger to your lips"

Don't tell anybody anon..you will get in trouble too

>>11450087
We are gonna be looking for "charm anti-quark neutrino mono-poles" or something I don't know I just use autofill for quantum stuff.

And I don't need any help lol.

I was just trying to be helpful.
It's all part of being good.
...it's not like I need to work anymore.
It's amazing how small a.particle accelerator can be.

>>11450085
There is no fractal man.
52 decimal places of pi can do slices of a hydrogen proton across the diameter of the observable universe.

An electron is the smallest thing.

Infinity is an asymptote of non definition.
It's not defined.
Infinity isn't a measurement.

All matter is proton neutron or electron
Digital.
Or waves,
Analog.
From the smallest length we can measure, a.planck length, to the speed of light.

There are constants
There is no uncertainty.

It will be my turn to be the predator.
And I will drag those monsters through the street.
In front of their victims.
Like the criminals they are.

And then we will see who channels god lol.

If you want to be Jesus that's fine.
I will be the Anti-Christ

>>11450103
There is no electron.

>>11450138
What is a spark?
You can use individual electrons for electron microscopy.
You can weigh an individual electron.

Interestingly enough the "millikan oil drop" experiment was a good example of fradulant science.

Feinnman wrote a book about it "cargo cult science"

About group think and cult like aspects of science.
Like the cult you are in.

He said "anyone who claims to understand quantum mechanics, does not understand quantum mechanics"

Smart guy lol. One of the greatest scientists of all time.

As far as I can make out... The implication of the vast majority of quantum mechanics is simply that we have to take errors induced by the measuring device into account when we take measurements.

Hardly mind-boggling.

>>11450178
The scientists that did this claim the matter teleports through infinite string dimensions when we look at it, and it's pilotwave collapses. A pilot wave being when consciousness manifests matter into being by observing it. Because it doesn't exist when we look at it. And it's different for everyone.

If what you were describing "we need to careful taking precise measurements" was quantum mechanics.
We would live in a better world.
Quantum mechanics is the diary of a madman.

>>11450190
I am certain that none of that rambling pseudo-scientific gobbledegook you just spouted is what scientist believe.

Please link me to a peer-reviewed paper where a credible scientist states that

> claim the matter teleports through infinite string dimensions when we look at it, and it's pilotwave collapses.

or

> A pilot wave being when consciousness manifests matter into being by observing it

Pro-tip: You won't. And you can't. Because all your knowledge of science comes from YouTube videos posted by delusional schizophrenics like yourself.

>>11450441
Why don't you define "quantum mechanics"

One of the classic techniques anons use is ask me a question.
Have me answer it. The change the definition of the words they used in the question to make my answer retroactively incorrect.

Now I will assume you are not a manipulative piece of shit trickster using our complex English language as a tool to fuck with people as a troll.

Define "quantum mechanics" first :)

>>11446124
Why is it so that believers know their theories worse than the dissidents?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbLzh1Y9POQ

>>11450441
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_wave_theory

Here is some consciousness theory

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170215-the-strange-link-between-the-human-mind-and-quantum-physics

You don't know what quantum mechanics is lol.

You just assume it's true because it's institutionalised.

You will tell me I'm wrong no matter what I say.
But I will take the bait.

Have you read the entire thread?
Do you have any other questions?

That are unrelated to your unfamiliarity with the insane religious dogma that is quantum mechanics.

I know for certain you haven't read "a brief history of time"
All it talks about it consciousness.

You reference it to impress girls at parties.

But you don't understand it.
And you haven't studied it.
Or else you would know it wasn't real.

>>11450552
Well isn't that funny. The article you linked on Pilot Wave theory doesn't mention the word consciousness or infinite string dimensions even once...

It certainly doesn't say anything remotely like your claims (which I repeat) that

>matter teleports through infinite string dimensions when we look at it, and it's pilotwave collapses

or

> A pilot wave being when consciousness manifests matter into being by observing it.

I never said I understood quantum mechanics. My argument was that you are speaking complete nonsense, nothing more.

>>11450843
I'm sorry man.
Thankyou for your well worded question.
I was posting for 18 hours yesterday so you caught me just as I was going to bed.

Just gimme a minute lol. It is too early for quantum mechanics :)

99% of CERN data is gone, literally erased it. You can google it and they admit it. Now think about this for a while

>>11452249
Really lol?
Yeah the LIGO gravity wave people were straight up making graphs to make it look like they were con artists stealing grant money.

It got investigated officially.
Andrew Jackson PhD from the Neil's Bohr institute was the leader of the group of phycisists that were claiming it's a hoax I think.

It all got covered up


But how LIGO got caught was leaving all their raw data just lieing around for anyone to see, so it was easy to just run your own statistical analysis program and see that they were fabricating results.

So I guess CERN learned a valuable lesson about making sure they can't go to jail for fraud.

Like that's why CERN is in three different countries, imagine the legal hassles with a corporation in three countries at once.
Just the jurisdiction issues and how to press charges lol. What a nightmare.


Do you know any other cool quantum coverup stuff?

>>11450843
This was in popular mechanics.
"The wave function is a representation of all the possible quantum states of a particle. Until the particle is measured, causing the wave function to "collapse," that matter really does exist with all possible properties."

The old "matter doesn't exist until we observe it"
As in, it knows, psychically, that it is being looked at.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a24114/pilot-wave-quantum-mechanics-theory/

Was what I was referring to.
Those are all current quantum mechanical theories.

There are like 5 main QM explanations.
They are all mutually exclusive and incompatible.
So people pick the one that fits their religious belief system the best.

We have a theory for faster than light communication, but then all the other equations and interpretations don't work.

So QM is an illusionists bag of tricks.

If you study FTL data transmission as your research you will study the FTL is possible QM theory.

If you study god, you pick Jacob Barnetts QM work,
If you are Jewish then string theory is much more compatible with the Kabbalah


QM is a religion.

You guys know "interfaith" weddings lol.

Where the two teenagers really want to have sex so they formulate a workaround.

Like "I'm Catholic and your a Jew, let's get married, god will understand because baby, he made thicc booty so he knows what that does to a man"

So literally, one of you is going to hell lol. Along with the person who did the ceremony.
And everyone who witnessed such an abomination.
How often can you make 2 gods angry at once these days lol.

What I mean is.
Everyone involved in that interfaith marriage knows neither god is real.
Or they wouldnt do that.
If god puts you in hell for masturbation then how much rouble are you going to get in for that ahahha.

It's to keep yourself in the will ;)

Anyway that's how people work.

So quantum mechanics is that.

We know none of the theories work.
But just playing nice and kindof sharing them is alot easier.
And you get the grant money
Those fat quantum mechanical paychecks.
Also I you are a "non-believer"
You get shunned.

>>11452442
The first time people learn to share and get along and for a god damn Vatican psi-op.
Wow. That actually made me sad.

Fuck this planet lol.
Maybe I should just watch it burn

>>11452449
Oh wait you are all fucked up on psychedelic drugs like the Manson family.

I'm sorry "meds", harmless legal prescription candy meds.

Drugs can cloud your judgement.
I was too harsh.
There will be no burning.

>>11450115
Everybody has their place in the great cosmic play am I right?
checked

>>11452459
Hate to break it to you bud but the illuminati has inflicted schizophrenia on you, should have seen it coming, there bud.

what the fuck am i reading

>>11452495
Lol, gotta die of something ;)
If it's hyperautomatic super combat rifle caseless shells raining down upon me.
While I fight evil.
Then that's a hero's death.
My ancestors are smiling upon me anon.
Are yours?

Lol, man I'm dramatic

>>11452507
That was a long time ago anon.
But thank you for your helpful advice :)

>>11452507
Perhaps a shit load of Vraylar, amphetamines, Xanax and lithium will help me think more like a 4channer ;)

"The Vatican isn't allowed to lie!!!,
Scientists aren't allowed to lie!!!,
People aren't allowed to lie for money!!!!"

Rofl,.maybe the problem is all the women and black people getting affirmative action STEM jobs and race traitoring, polluting our pure Appalachian genetics,

Not the literal Nazis running the particle accelerators lolol.

>>11452575
You're like a markov text generator type schizo when you're manic. Gotta keep it reeled in on /sci/ and keep that shit on the relevant boards.

>>11452575
also probably true desu

>>11452590
I know exactly what you mean.
I answer each question in the format it is presented.

I'm not going to do a university lecturer and film it and put in on YouTube, or write a book or paper no one will read.

This is the only format that works.
And yes. It is very schizophrenic, as each post has a completely different context :)

Also discussing quantum mechanics makes the greatest of scientists argue.

This isn't which football team is the best.
It's not an opinion.
It's a science.

Also I have been using sci for a while man. It's like an organic supercomputer.
But it's still pretty brutal and sexist and racist, like I don't like my friends knowing I use 4 Chan.

I am just doing the best I can.
You think I'm LARPing so I understand
If you knew the truth your opinion of me would be different.
And the value of the time I donate to try and help you.

You have no idea what's going to happen.

>>11452592
:P
You know "high" ideas,
Like when teenagers smoke weed and go "whoa man, we are all one big individual, each atom is a tiny galaxy in a fractal hologram man!"

That's quantum mechanics. Those physicists are on like 5 medications.
All of them. And they all hang out with Epstein lol.

Join the dots. Lol.

>>11452604
That drawing is not too impressive and I must say you have the handwriting of a child. I don't have high hopes for you.

>>11452541
The truth brother.
The scary truth.
Like when Galileo said the sun was the center of the solar system.
They did the same thing.

That wasnt a movie lol.
Can you even tell the difference anymore.

Vatican=Vatican
Galileo=scientist
Quantum mechanics=dogma
Challenge QM=heresy.

>>11452642
Thats because it took 2 minutes,
And that's like Florentine calligraphy lol,
Show me your handwriting

You are going to grade me off penmanship?

Let's go anon.

What font?
Blackletter gothic?
Florentine?

You pick.

Is this sufficiently derailing the thread as you had hoped and anticipated lol.

>>11447379

If you can time travel then you can space travel. Obviously.

>>11452642
Here you go anon.
And now you believe me?

>>11446124
I want to try it with a machine gun, then a rifle.

I know, it shouldn't work -- but before anybody tried it, nobody expected the results they got with photons. One million logical guesses are not worth one case of diving in and trying.

>>11452830
If you fire a machine gun at a doorway.
A metal doorway, with the door open
You get a "shadow" of the bullets that pass through the open door.
And hit the wall, that you are looking at.

Two doorways gives you two "shadows" of the two slits.

It's called a "particle pattern"

This experiment was never done with photons.

You are hallucinating.

>>11446124
Not as strange as prime numbers retard. God I fucking HATE PHYSHITS HOLY FUCK