/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11447584
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30473033
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30076109
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24756128
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26010418
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30278462
Just look up literature on early clamping for more.

It also should be noted directly that the endless inane discussion and framing in terms of "timing" can only rationally be a form of mass psychosis, cowardice in facing one's own actions, or to facilitate public damage control. You don't need to "time" anything, there is no professional finesse, and there is no "timing" and expertise on the part of a physician involved. In most cases it's very simple. The cord is there, it is doing something. You leave it alone until it's done doing what it's doing, ie, until all pulsations have ceased, it is lying flat, and has turned white. In certain cases it may be necessary to hold the infant lower so there's a gravity feed, or to manually "milk" the cord.

Of course since we aren't important as individuals and it's gotten to a point where we're only really here to be used, the idea of anyone in the medical profession having proper training and the will to go to this trouble for your one birth (and perhaps one life), intuitively feels relatively far fetched. In the modern world, large scale societies and their organizational stability are predicated on a burdened, incompetent, and highly interdependent population. Once you've reached a certain threshold and systems are up and running, and there's still a sort of brain drain available elsewhere (where they don't do these things to their children), a healthy and intelligent population is a steadily increasing liability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCoz060WXQw

>>11447586
So, this went on, and this still goes on in many places. It probably was done to most of us here. Consider this when you're evaluating modern medicine and its claims, particularly vaccination. And what's that other thing they do? Oh right, they strap the neonate, the human being that is, into a specially manufactured "circumstraint", and amputate part of their penis. Yes, this is what's done. Ask yourself, if they do all of this, if they've lied about all of these other things, what else are they lying about? What else have they been trained, coerced, and brainwashed into doing?

Why would vaccines be any different? The following post will have information on vaccines. This is heavy stuff. Despite what many here probably think, perhaps unfortunately I am actually quite sane and aware of the weight of this. Due to certain factors, or perhaps just life in its natural course, as I become more fatigued I've also become far less detached. And honestly for the first time in a very long time, after telling someone about this (yet again) and drawing into mind the Brave New World parallel I actually felt nauseated.

How long are we going to let these clowns and this shit just go on at every level like any of this is normal? What is it going to take? I don't know the answer, but this is not the time to say "oh well, they clamped and I got clamped" and cower down or expect life to just go on as normal. This is the time to identify ways and means of spreading this information and getting this shit solved, not just clamping, but the whole constellation of medical quackery, fraud, and insanity.

>>11447589
Mercury and aluminum injected into children repeatedly ain't too grand, but there's also an immunogenic damage component as well as immune mediated alteration in function. Look up microglial priming by Blaylock in particular. There are a number of mechanisms.

Nonlinear dose response of aluminum.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27908630

Neuroimmunology
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3589867/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3784951/

Immunoexcitotoxicity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5909100/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3307240/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4609793/

Hepatitis B vaccine induced brain dysfunction.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27501128
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29751176

You have the well reported alteration of antigen presentation in the gut, massive inflammation. That's against a background of other environmental factors which destroy proper gut flora.

Section 13 of every vaccine insert, as its sole content, contains a variant of the following:
"[Vaccine] has not been tested for mutagenic potential, carcinogenic potential, or impairment of fertility."
Look up immunocastration. A variant of this was tested on girls in Kenya.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=immunocastration

Inserts are here:
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/vaccines-licensed-use-united-states

Purported vaccine content is here:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Flu shot has been shown to be largely ineffective, completely ineffective over 65.

>>11447590
Historical data on disease rates indicates vaccines are introduced only after other measures have reduced rates of disease. Actual treatments and prevention have been suppressed in favor of vaccination, simply things like vitamin C and vitamin A for measles. Polio was successfully treated and partially reversed in its flaccid paralysis staged with injections of sodium ascorbate and a small amount of copper salicylate. Polio itself only became an issue after other vaccines, indicating immune disruption and inability to handle organochloride pesticide bombardment, diethylstilbestrol, mercury in the water from mining operations, peope were putting mercurochrome on open wounds, gargling with it, DDT in the wallpaper, etc. A matter of total toxic load.

Contamination with the old polio vaccine with SV40 gave many people cancer. Think about those in your family who are dying of cancer in their 40's to 60's. Historically vaccine contamination has been frequent.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10472327
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5404636/
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.biologicals.2014.07.003
Notably some independent testing found various "contaminants" in human vaccines, but not veterinary.
http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.php
Worth noting as well, prior to the "cutter incident" work was being done to weaponize polio at the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research.

Risk of severe side effects:
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/2/325
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-04/pas-nrr042619.php

Infection in fully vaccinated children, increased susceptibility to other infections after vaccination, role of the vaccinated as asymptomatic carriers or "resevoirs"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2627963/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20200027
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5378080/

>>11447592
Other resources:
Look up Suzanne Humphries, MD. Her book "Dissolving Illusions" as well.
"Murder by Injection" by Eustace Mullins. For those who like to complain about "conspiracy", he's simply compiling the contents of documents found in the Library of Congress.

Quite a lot of information
https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/bitstream/handle/2123/20198/Rogers_T_thesis.pdf

Vaccination is a primary component of a house of cards.

An excerpt from a post by another Anon:
There are plenty of evidence vaccines are not to be trusted without a case-by-case analysis and personal opportunity-cost analysis.
[...]
Further, I strongly believe that negative effects are severely underreported because of the shunning effect that the population has decided on and the cult-like adherence to the idea that vaccines are perfect. Moreover, even if an event is believed to be caused to a vaccine, what are the parents (or worse, kid - who doesn't understand these things or why that would matter) going to do? They'll nurse the kid to health or go to the hospital and that's it. No record of the link between vaccine and event will ever be made.

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With that, honestly 4chan is (eventually) incredibly addicting for me and odds are I won't participate further though I'll probably check this thread way down the line. This thread is to discuss as you see fit.

>>>/pol/

>>11447610
Feel free to post it there. I thought about it, but didn't feel like it. It could amount to a very productive thread.

>>11447613
Made a thread.
>>>/pol/246895691

>>11447584
>lower myelination at 4 months, feritin remains low for 2-4 months
Come back when you find a study in which the gap still persists into adulthood.
Most environmental effects on the brain, whether positive or negative, disappear as people grow older and then genes take over. This is called the "Wilson Effect" and we observe it through the increased heritability of IQ as people grow older.

>>11447639
Yes, this is why we see shaken baby syndrome disappear with age.

Wait.

I got sick reading this.

But admittedly I also stopped at the third post. Gimme a tldr of your agenda with this

>>11447648
>literal injury is the same thing as not getting a few miligrams of blood
Remind me when emo teens become dumber when they cut themselves.

>>11447659
Emo teens are already dumb so you wouldn't notice.

>>11447584
Most of the negative effects of clamping happen because of anemia rather than the clamping itself. Just ask your parents whether you became anemic at some point in your early life.
>>11447648
He's right tho. OP posted a study in >>11447586
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24756128
In which they didn't find major differences between the DCC and ECC groups. Imagine how small the gap is when they're adults.

>>11447673
It's true that you only get the negative effects if you become anemic, but clamping does increase the chance of getting anemia.
Yes, only a small minority does. But that's still fucked up.

>>11447673
>Gee, when I do this unnecessary thing which carries significant risk and no potential for benefit, and later on when I test a very tiny range of attributes I don't find too big a difference
>Guess I should just do it. It's totally okay.

Reminder that OP is a paranoid schizophrenic
https://pastebin.com/B2mmisWm

>>11447686
>significant risk
Actually the chance of getting anemia after clamping pretty small. But yeah there's no benefits. Plus it's higher than the chance of getting jaundice from not clamping.

>>11447692
Not clamping doesn't cause jaundice. There's no evidence that the "more blood = more potential for hemolysis" or any of the other assertions are true. They're not based on any science.

>posters: 6
Other than the few initial posts OP is defenitely samefagging right now.

>post an actual thread
>0 replies and gets archived

>famous schizo makes a shitty thread with studies that contradict his point
>newfags eat it up
>top thread

>>11447587
In brave new world they make stupid humans by depriving them of oxygen and adding alcohol into their bodies. This is the same thing, the doctors are depriving the baby of oxygen at birth.

>>11447673
Not reading the studies they cite is a common trope among conspiratards.
I swear in some other thread about Fluoride someone cited a study in which rats were exposed to FOURTY times the minimum dose for humans.
Did I mention "minimum dose"? Yeah, that's a concept they also will never understand.

>>11447584
>>11447586
In one of the studies
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30278462

>DCC children had higher scores in the domains "communication", "gross motor", and "personal-social".
Lmao so they measure normalfag shit that doesn't even matter? Come back when they give them actual IQ tests.

>>11447741
They could castrate you cut off all your limbs, and hook you up to a brain machine interface, and you'd still be like "muh IQ" normmiiesssss RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Ugh Anon. That's clampthink and clampspeak.

Unclamp.

>>11447741
And autists just so happen to be bad at all of those three categories.
If anything this proves ECC is a contributor to the recent autism epidemic.
Also when it comes to success and quality of life, these categories matter A LOT.

>>11447745
>Unclamp.
(That's assuming you still have your balls. If not, proceed as you are.)

>>11447584
>t. clamped

Bump for based and clamppilled.

Does anyone know if American hospitals bill you for the clamping itself, seeing as they usually produce this long list of things they're billing you for?

>>11451453
Probably, plus the cost of the actual clamp.