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11443583 No.11443583 [Reply] [Original]

How the fuck did you guys have the balls to major in math? Everyone around me scared me out of it by telling me they are unemployed. The unemployment statistics of math majors scared me out of majoring in math. They scared me into majoring in Electrical Engineering (which i do enjoy, so its not all bad for me) so how the fuck did you guys not get scared into majoring in a math heavy subject instead of majoring in just straight up math? Did you guys know about the unemployment rates and if you did how the fuck where you not scared of majoring in it?

>> No.11443607

>>11443583
>job statistics for math majors
Don't believe one bit of that. That only applies to people who aren't self-starters (which admittedly, is a lot of math majors, but also a lot of people in general). With math, you can do anything. Yes, I, a mathematician can become an electrical engineer easily, because I already know the math. The math is the hardest part. All that's left for me to learn is the memorization of the concepts, factoids, and procedures you do in your degree. The easy stuff. Likewise, I can be an actuary. All it takes is memorizing a bit of insurance practices, how to use math software (most of us already know how) and applying my math knowledge to basic statistics (most of us already know how). I can be a software engineer. All it takes is applying my math knowledge to writing algorithms, and the study of complexity, stuff many of us already know. From there it's all just memorizing the programming language and understanding a few intuitive principles of software engineering, like robustness of code, etc. Sure, if you can't be assed to learn anything outside "muh elegant formulas," then your only options are academia or the NSA. But the vast majority of us have picked up skills and knowledge outside pure math.

>> No.11443614

>>11443583
>unemployment stats
Now think about it. If statistics are taken by statisticians, and many mathematicians are also statisticians, are they not incentivized to underreport their employment rates, to prevent competition?

>> No.11443657

>>11443583
That was a comfy game. Too bad I lost the login info for my old account.

>> No.11443670

>>11443607
>Don't believe the statistics?
Why, the statistics are pretty indicative of organizations not hiring bachelors in math compared to other bachelors. I don't think it makes sense to ignore those statistics in hope that you'll get lucky as you are a self-starter. Ignoring that I envy you for having the will to follow your passion. I enjoy Electrical Engineering but I know I would've enjoyed pure math even more.
>>11443657
Ya, I still play it.

>> No.11443674

>>11443583
The colleges don't like to shill pure math. 300k starting in applied math (as a quant) is not a meme.

>> No.11443675

>>11443583
I majored in pure mathematics and theoretical computer science.

>> No.11443716

>>11443670
You don't just apply for a job with nothing but a math degree. You have to show them what you're capable of.

>> No.11443728

>>11443583
Because I wanted to. I didn't worry about career prospects. I have a good job now. Life rewards risk takers, and engineering jobs are growing at a below average rate, if you didn't know.

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11443730

>>11443583
I am professor of <keyword>. Everyone hires <keyword> because it matches their oversimplified <keyword>.

People nominally call us Process Engineers or Requirements Translators.

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11443736

>>11443716
Yes, we all must do special monkey dance otherwise how we know if more or less than other monkey with even MORE special dance?
>Pants optional

>> No.11443831

>>11443728
Good for you, you followed your dream and made it! Sadly I'm not a risk taker, I've never been brave or anything like that. I just like studying math.

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>>11443831
>risk = abandoning preexisting belief about responsibility and established cycles of narrative.
>abandons first-born daughter
>that reward payout