/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11423108
>What's the point...
fuck bitches
eat junk food
help people
stop giving a fuck

>>11423108
Enough dinero to afford a diy workshop in your own home, beers with friends, the occasional steak, and Mike Tyson Mysteries.
Everything else is oppulance

>>11423108
>dresses like shit
Can confirm that he's high IQ.

>>11423117
>>11423115
I mean, I know that IQ sure had an effect here and his cognitive capabilities are higher than what most of us can understand, but it just pisses me off that no matter how much I love something and how dedicated I am I won't even grasp a fraction of what this or other genius will.

Being 125 IQ sucks, not a genius, not an average retard that still manages to function but is sociable...

>>11423108
WHAT THE FUCK HIS FUCKING BROTHER 11 GOES TO COLLEGE TOO

>>11423108
There are starving people who's houses of trash are demolished to make way for sidewalks and oppressed people fighting everyday to stay alive or for a better life outside a corrupt regime. If only they could see that all that awaits them in a cushy 1st world lifestyle like OPs is nothing but pain and anguish as you compare yourself to childhood prodigies.

>>11423131
Why are you assuming my life is cushy? I come from a middle-low class family and I'm not even in the 1st world. I'm from South America.

>>11423125
>but it just pisses me off that no matter how much I love something and how dedicated I am I won't even grasp a fraction of what this or other genius will.
there's over 7,000,000,000 people walking this shithole rock. every single 1 needs to man the fuck up and serve whatever purpose they can to whatever extent they can. nothing is certain until you get locked into an anxiety/depression loop liek your whiny ass is and even then, you can break out of that shit. learn how to fuck mother fuckers up and stop caring about this shit or something

When he turns 18 he will realize his life is a joke. All that knowledge and intelligence and he wasted his childhood and teenage years on studying and writing silly formulas. While his peers were having fun, be it playing with legos, partying and drinking or other stuff. They were living their lives.
While this kid was not really doing anything. He will probably kill himself or end up as a junkie.

>>11423137
>learn how to fuck mother fuckers up and stop caring about this shit or something

what

>>11423108
These kids were born in trash and will die in trash, but hey, at least they don't have childhood prodigies swimming across their phone screens or any opportunities to better themselves. I suppose that's something to live for

>>11423138
Ignorance is a bliss, life is meaningless at the end of the day and we are all gonna die so it doesn't matter what you do or don't, just that you enjoy the ride.

Actually after typing this I've realized I don't care if I don't achieve any of this.

>>11423140
BECOME OK WITH PUSHING YOUR FUCKING THUMBS INTO THE LITTLE GENIUS COCK SUCKERS EYE BALLS UNTIL YOUR SWIMMING AROUND IN BRAIN MATTER. YA WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF GUNS YOU CAN STILL GET A CHANCE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ALONE WITH THE LITTLE PRICK SHUT THE FUCK UP AND FIGURE OUT WHAT SOOTHES YOU EMOTIONALLY

>>11423108
One more one more.
Fuck, I know I'd rather be coughing up lungs in subzero temperatures than have to look at another childhood prodigy

>>11423143
Yeah exactly. And if he really is that intelligent he will realize how much he missed out, even though in theory he achieved more than all kids his age combined. Then he will descend into madness.

>>11423159

What's a matter, math too hard for you? Cowards deserve to get fucked. Alphas thrive for a reason, faggot.

3 year old asking to learn calculus

i call bullshit

>>11423108
He has the face of a troubled and defeated man in his late 30s though. So don't worry anon, he'll probably burn out in his early 20s if that makes you feel any better.

>>11423108
>all neurons dedicated to learning math
>no neurons for learning how to eat correctly, move his body correctly, or have any social ability
Not really superhuman -- however not natural.

Child geniuses are memes. You've never heard of child geniuses discovering anything new, contributing to math or science, because that doesn't happen. They're still developing, and these are simply kids who develop a bit faster, and are a bit smarter than the average kid his age (who is retarded). I'd be willing to bet almost everyone on /sci/ right now who's over 20 is at least as smart as boy in OP. 19-30 is peak mental age and the age at which you actually make contributions.
It's almost all about how you spend your time. Being a social outcast can help.
>In high school I used to do problems for more advanced classes. I was then in a boarding house in Nimes, staying with children older than I was, and they used to bully me. So to pacify them, I used to do their mathematics homework. It was as good a training as any.
(Serre in an interview)

>>11423125
>Being 125 IQ sucks, not a genius, not an average
you're a midiwt. So am I.

>>11423125
> but it just pisses me off that no matter how much I love something and how dedicated I am I won't even grasp a fraction of what this or other genius will.
Name one thing a genius can grasp that you cannot. Protip: you can't. 125 IQ is plenty to understand anything you want.

>>11424353
>You've never heard of child geniuses discovering anything new, contributing to math or science,
Terrance Tao. Literal 200 IQ math wizard.

>>11423143
>>11423138
If he's smart he'll realize that partying and drinking was never an option to begin with and that he'd gone down the wisest path of pursuing knowledge and wisdom which actually brought joy and pride in his life.
Ignorance is pain and suffering. Knowledge is power. The people who say "ignorance is bliss" are invariably insecure brainlets who are themselves completely ignorant of any advances in science, mathematics or any other field, most often poor as well. If you think ignorance is bliss, why don't you bash your head against the wall a couple dozen times, see how you like the new "mode" of intelligence.

>>11424364
this. this is the redpill

>>11424360
You misunderstood what I said. Terence Tao didn't discover or achieve anything substantial before the age of 20. Some child wizards grow up to become actual figures, just like other "norma" people. The fact that they were maths prodigies doesn't influence that much when it comes to actual achievements. There are plenty of examples of people who were nowhere near prodigies as children and ended up achieving substantial and wonderful work in mathematics (Smale comes to mind, Serre too). Pretty much it all comes down to how you spend your time in your 20s.

>>11424370
>There are plenty of examples of people who were nowhere near prodigies as children and ended up achieving substantial and wonderful work in mathematics
maybe they didn't have opportunities to exhibit their volume of grey matter

>>11424370
How many of these child prodigies do you think there are? To start working on things like calculus involves the parents side-stepping the structured school curriculum. And most parents would think moving their kid up grades randomly would be bad for their social skills. I was tested at a 170+ IQ as a kid and my parents were offered to move me from 3rd grade to 7th grade. They decided to only move me up one grade. In college for chemical engineering I performed the best on classwork without studying, but my gpa was steadily around a 3.0-3.3 because of that. Overall not caring and having to deal with school politics drama I decided to join the military for a certain number of years then decide whether or not to go back. Thing is with success within the system is you need to be a certain level of retarded to never go/think/act outside of the box and sit there doing school programs like a robot for hours on end. Past a certain IQ like 120 in school any higher does not matter (especially in university) and is completely about conscientiousness.

>>11424384
where are you working now?

>>11424393
Intelligence for the air force

>>11424384
>>11424397
How much maths do you know (if any)?

>>11424397

>>11424407
Not sure what you mean exactly -- know up to Calc III, Physics II, linear algebra, and thermo. Probably some others but forget the classes at the top of my head. Past those in regard to math are engineering-specific mathematics in my program. I don't do math randomly for fun.

>>11424419
why did you chemistry while having 170iq? why not pure math or physics or even TCS

>>11424426
Theoretical mathematics is a waste of time. Physics could be cool. Overall the goal should be getting into secret military research. That is where the interesting stuff is at. Doing endless mathematics with no point is a hole to dig yourself into with the end being a limited income from a university while having not benefited anything while your calculations lay hidden and may be never used again. Most of the interesting areas of research are at a point where such being public knowledge would be dangerous for society such as being able to explode the sun with a certain kind of rigged rocketry -- or too efficient sources of energy (and thusly could be used for explosions; terrorism). Research at a university will always be limited to an in-the-box pigeon holed scenario.

>>11423108
Blame your parents

>>11423108
Im 30, so 1/3 to 2/5 of my life is already gone. The other 2/3-3/5 is not any better.

>>11424364
based and redpilled

>>11424436
good for you. what advice would give to brainlets like me who want to succeed?

>>11424473
Your main ambition should be conscientiousness. Keep at a low body fat percent, go running a lot, keep a habit of cleaning everything and being organized. Everything about your life should be controlled and neat as you can possibly make such. Over time your personality should change to match this as well.

>>11424475
Thanks. Also, any tips for increasing IQ?

>>11424478
Meditation. When at the most calm state focus on increasing BDNF and should happen through an operation similar to the placebo effect. Doing this while on uppers seems to be more effective - or that's just dopamine making you think it is; not sure.

>>11424475
How old are you?

>>11424483
18

>>11424485
Bro, are you trolling?

>>11424488
yes

>>11424507
kek

>>11423108
d neger

I keep seeing more and more child prodigies these days, I wonder how many of them are scams... it wouldn't be too hard to get a kid to write some stuff on a board and read off a script.
Not that I want that to be true, if this kid really is that much of a genius, I'm happy for him, I hope he has a nice long career in math.

Anyway, one recurrent problem with child prodigies is they often suffer depression because their IQ levels off to match their peers as they age, and then they're just another one of the crowd. This isn't a bad thing at all, but I imagine it stings when you were so lauded as a kid. Mozart for example was deeply depressed as an adult.

>>11423142
yikes

>>11424353
Von neumann,Mozart and Gauss where child prodigies you damn retard

>>11424364
this

>>11423115
How do you simultaneously not give a fuck and help people?

>>11424785
people like von neumann make me suicidal. i wonder how a mind like his can even exist encapsulated by a human body

>>11424765
Young kids have sponge brains, they can learn things really quickly, all you have to do as a parent is force your kid to learn this stuff and destroy any chance they'll have at a normal childhood.

>>11424819
That may not be true

>>11423108
>prodigy
Nigga, 99.999% of these child prodigies grow up to be literal nobodies. Name one child prodigy who has actually done anything remarkable.

>>11424825
Terrance Tao

>>11424785
That doesn't contradict anything that I said, retard. Learn to read.

>>11424765
You mean someone could fool the MSM reporters who will be so anxious to show le smart black boy that they will fall for almost any trick that purports to demonstrate it?
That's just crazy talk.

>>11424837
It literally does, learn to write, faggot.

>>11423108

That is where transhumanism comes in. I'm a brainlet like you, so I want to get rich so I can have a shot at being the smartest person alive through futuristic technologies and global authoritarian global government. If your smart enough to make a lot of money, you're potentially good bro. Even the smartest ones amoung us can be subjugated by us brainlets if they don't pay enough attention and make enough money

>>11423125
work harder you piece of garbage.

>>11423108
Most prodigies burn out and quit real early. If you just stay consistent and committed you can beat prodigies easily.

>>11423108
Some people have a gift for learning shit other people came up with. Very very few people can come up with their own new shit(usually people who are at least 1/100 smart and 1/10000 dedicated).

do what most people do, make a child and hope for him to become a genius so he can achieve what you were never able to

Feeling like you have to be the best at something for it to be worth doing is mental gymnastics to eschew the guilt of laziness. Stop being mediocre.

>>11424825
99.99% of mathematicians while not child prodigies were massively accelerated (doing calculus at 12, etcetera)

>>11423108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCzH42efniU

>>11423108
If science and math are about personally being the smartest, they will hurt you. The goal isn't to do everything yourself and "win," it's to get a better personal understanding of the world you live in and improve mankind's grasp.

If you're constantly in a brain-dick-waving competition with everyone around you, you should probably only spend time around dumber people.

>>11426083
that sounds false.

>>11423108
>>11423108
here's the thing OP
this kid never worked a hard day in his LIFE. he's never seen true adversity, this is the only life he knows. he will never be able to truly, objectively appreciate his talent

I'm not trying to shit on him. I'm happy someone can live such an existence

But I'm 24 years old. I went to community college for fucking 5 years (numerous fuck ups, failed pre-algebra 7 times) and I'm just now starting a compsci program online. For years I worked shit jobs, scraping black shit off the floor in freezers with an old spatula, wiping piss and shit off of toilet rims in gas stations, being broken up with and kicked out of my house and sleeping in my beat down car covered in cigarette ash and weed crumbs. Years and years of drinking until 8am in my room, pissing myself

When I was 23 and I finally it clicked, and finally I started to understand math for the first time, I broke down in tears (not to be a fag) at how proud I was of my work. And for the past few months, as i learn more math, as i got my shit together and it all started to click to me, and it all started to make sense, learning how important academics are, nothing in the world can top that beauty.

Now I do linear algebra and number theory, physics, etc.. and every little breakthrough I make sends chills down my spine at how beautiful it is to apply yourself, and to come from nothing and be something. Sure it would've been easier to have been born a genius, but I know what it's like to be as dumb as fucking dirt and degenerate trash too. The only thing I used to think about is how i was going to get more money for weed. I've come a long way and while I'm not proud of who I was, I'm proud of where I am now, and this little smug kid will never experience that.

>>11423108
also she is full of shit. he did not know what calculus was at 3 years old.

>>11423108
>tfw i'm a retard

>>11424785
>Mozart
btfo by his co-ethnic dave beeth oven, who was fuckin deaf
mozart was great, but he was no greater than the other greats
he was merely young while he was great

>>11423108
I found my dad's college linear algebra textbook when I was 12, learned matrix calculus cause it was looking cool and smart, like in the movies. Didn't give a shit, nobody gave a shit, dad bought me playstation and then PC so I started playing games and watching porn. Math teachers was saying I think like mathematician but I preffered games and porn.

>>11423115
>living like a woman


society is ded

>>11426548
Same here, except for the drug abuse and drinking. I remember how excited I was when I first proved something mathematically. We're gonna make it, anon. Perseverance is our greatest strength.

>>11427198
ur ded

>>11423108
blame your parents

>>11423108
The point is they burn out super quickly and become disinterested when the only thing about them, their age, isn't so impressive.

>>11427598
heavily this
at some point they're not gonna be getting the attention they got when they were young cunts. and liek any spoiled little brat cunt, they're just gonna be confused narcissistic whiny needy little pricks

>>11423108
A prodigy's positive persona is a perspective held exclusive by the audience.

>>11424834
now name a second one

>>11428067
>>11424785

>>11424785
My point us none of these people have achieved anything substantial as kids. It was only when they got older that they started getting serious things done, just like other people who were not child prodigies.

>>11423108
Not prodigies go anywhere. Surely no one who worries about the abilities of others goes anywhere either

>>11423108
why is it always the Schrödinger equation?
how about the Dirac-equation? How about Einstein's field equation?

>>11428348
LOL BECAUSE OF THE DEAD CAT IN THE ALIVE BOX IS IT ALIVE OR DEAD SO INTERESTING BRO LOL BRO BRO IT COULD BE EITHER BRO LOL BRO

>>11423108
woah no way dude, he can write down the schrodingus equaiton? what an epic black science kids, give this man the nobel for defying racism and overcoming the inner dindu

>>11425258
sorry to spoil your mood but hes right, his original argument is not that math geniuses dont exist, its that they do not actually discover groundbreaking maths before the age of adulthood, meaning it doesnt matter if you learn calc at the age of one or not, what matters is what you can do by the age of 20

>>11423125
>no matter how much I love something and how dedicated I am I won't even grasp a fraction of what this or other genius will.
>125 IQ

if you have that sentiment I don't think you have a 125 IQ. sorry bro.

>>11428547
>all those Teslas and Fermis that died in the plantation of the evangelical south.

Is not fair, at least this kid is lucky enough to live in modern times. Though, I don't believe her mom when she says that he asked to learn calculus when he was 3.

>>11428547
holy fucking mother fucking based god damn based

>>11423125
Bitch, im 88 IQ be grateful what you got. At least your not a brainlet.

>>11428634
This. In my honest opinion the government should institute a program for all genetic undesirables (low IQ, ugly, other deficiencies) to have a big orgy with young beautiful women and euthanized immediately after that. All free of charge and with the consent of the person being euthanized, of course. This and a program to promote families and childbirths could really have a good effect on society.

>>11424364
True, when I manage to get a glimpse of advanced concept, it's like a world beyond wonder. Those moments are rare but life was worth it just for them.

>>11428605
butthurt

>>11429113
bro im sincere i liek dat pic im just manic and come off as a major league faggot almost all the tiem LOL

>>11429139
actually now that I look at it longer, its actually pretty interesting. I wish there was a video

>>11423108
>>11423117
>>11423125
I'm not gonna quote everyone in this thread, but this shit is super cringe. If you like science, stop worrying about your intelligence and pic up a textbook or journal and start reading. If you don't like science, then why are you so worried about it? If you're average intelligence and genuinely motivated, then there is a lot you can achieve, and you don't have to be a """genius""" to make a meaningful contribution to science. If you don't live in some flyover state or a third world country, then there's probably a university somewhere within an hour or two of where you live where literally dozens of people like this kids work and study. Scientific ability is not some mythical fucking ability that is beyond the reach of mere mortal. Yeah some people have WAY more natural talent than other, motivation and effort will take you 80% of the way.

>>11428561
SJG's point was not that le racist white men have been oppressing dindus since the dawn of time. That's certainly a part of it, but I think his point was a little broader than that. It seems like he was probably making the point that sociocultural factors, ones developmental environment, and even mere chance can conspire to create or destroy a great genius. Even within the sciences themselves, there have probably been dozen of biologists, for example, who would have been groundbreaking mathematicians and vice versa.

>>11423117
>Mike Tyson Mysteries
kek

>>11423108
Look up Adragon De Mello’s biography. Talent can rarely save people from mediocrity.

>>11423108
Yeah bitching and moaning will help you out?

>>11423108
Life could be worse. You could be a child in Africa with virtually no childhood mining Cobalt so the corporate overlords in America can get rich. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJ8me22NVs

>>11426083
Sauce on that statistic?

>>11423108
Just leave the world a better place than you found it.

Eventually, you all will know as much or more than he does, if you work hard enough. However, this kid will always be a nigger.

>>11424350
that's not how the brain works

>>11427084
>who was fuckin deaf
retard

>>11423125
My IQ is somewhere in the 110s and I would love to be in the 120s because then you're smart but not autistically smart, that's the perfect IQ range

>>11423138
His IQ is too high to care about fun brainlet. fun to a genius it testing out their autistic theorems.

>>11423108
Just relax and enjoy what better people deliver.

If you think you can't make a valuable contribution to your world except by being 10 times smarter than everyone else then you should see a therapist or something because that's wrong.

>>11424364
have sex

>>11424364
virgin cope

>>11423108
This kid peaked way too early
He is probably socially isolated and puberty will destroy him
Sad