/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11414517
Death

>>11414517
can't be tested so its unknown and not worth extrapolating on.

>>11414520
retard
>>11414518
NICE
>>11414517
not while alive. everything is connected.

>>11414526
ok how do you test it?

>everything is connected.
go back to /x/

>>11414517
if the brain is transferred to more advanced medium whatever that is and activity is continuous and not paused I'd consider it a transfer of the original and not a copy

>>11414536
>go back to /x/
are you implying our thoughts and feelings aren't influenced by our nervous/endocrine systems?
>ok how do you test it?
fuck if i know lol

>>11414539
I haven't implied shit, retard. You are the one implying there is something more than guesswork we can grasp to answer OP's question.

Guesswork is NOT scientific.

>>11414526
>>11414539

And if you wanna come up with whatever theory you want, be my guest. My point it it will NEVER be scientific until it can be empirically tested.

>>11414543
>Guesswork is NOT scientific.
it's not guesswork it's common fucking sense

>>11414545
>My point it it will NEVER be scientific until it can be empirically tested.
you got a pretty pathetic idea of science. i liek fucking with shit and seeing what happens, plain and simple.

>>11414546
>>11414547
Cool, have fun and lmk when you actually understand the words I used.

>>11414551

>>11414556
Okay, humor me. Explain to me scientifically how mind is separated from body, or how we would ever know this.

>>11414564
i said it isn't separated from body. if you have any ability for self-awareness you can observe you're differing states of mind in different situations ie. being in isolation vs being around people. I don't claim to be a scientist, i've just observed the connection of certain thoughts with certain muscle contractions. I'm a literal retard that's been trying it's hardest to make sense of consciousness via extreme anxiety/schizophrenia in isolation

so ya. i am a retard. but i've recognized there's not separating mind from body. hunger makes you think differently. being horny makes you think differently. getting punched in the face makes you think differently.

>>11414517
>>11414517
No. There is zero evidence that the "mind" can exist without a brain. And there's a lot of evidence that the "mind" is a direct consequence of the "body" (brain).

>>11414584
>a lot of belief that the "mind" is a direct consequence of the "body" (brain).
ftfy

>>11414579
Going all philosophy here but to try and make sense of consciousness is a fool's errand. Sorry you're isolated but this is just not a scientific question/pursuit.

>>11414518
fpbp

>>11414591
eh you'll get no argument from me. philosophy is gay as fuck but consciousness can be made sense of. i guess it just requires being ok with being a retard lol and im not isolated bro. i got family. teh soup kitchen. and ofc this place

>>11414587
No you didn't.
Damage to specific parts of the brain impair specific aspects of the mind. This is easily explainable by the idea that "brain leads to mind", but is something that retards who believe the "mind" is meaningfully different from the "body" has to explain.

>>11414600
Sure, and silence after puncturing your eardrum means it was making the sounds.

>>11414644
Bad analogy. A better one would be if you tried to argue that "digestion" is separable from the digestive system.

>>11414655
The difference being you can point out all the individual processes in digestion as well as how they result from the actions /secretions in the body.
Science can do precisely NONE of that with "mind".

>>11414769
Please look up "god of the gaps", and then apologize for using a lack of knowledge to peddle bullshit.

>>11414517
The CIA seems to think so.

>>11417994
If this is real it wouldn't surprise me that the CIA is this fucking stupid

>>11418005
Stupid enough to be given a black budget with infinite spending money.

>>11418008
yes

>>11416372
Not an argument.

>>11418022
So what's your excuse?

>>11418245
i don't give a fuck about money outside of enough for food and shelter

>>11418008
Which makes it really convenient to funnel money into your relative's bank accounts by letting them write bullshit like >>11417994
(Not that that was necessarily the case here, it's just what I would do)

>>11414517
Technically? It depends on what qualifies as body. You can chop off someone's head and they can live for up to 30 seconds, but if head counts for body then not currently.

>>11418258
and a computer and an internet connection and electricity and running water and sewage and health care (when you need it)

use electroshock to erase brain
link body and computer with neurophone
install linux on body

>>11414517
Yes, in fact our minds are constantly separating our bodies and switching to other ones. You generally don't notice, since memories are stored physically in the brain, but if you're sufficiently mindful you can kinda feel/remember the moment "you" took over from the last guy

>>11414517
Not scientifically, but learn to astral project or remote view. You can certainly create an illusion of doing so convincing enough to experience consciousness as if you have left the physical world and consensus reality.

>>11417994
This is what happens when you let an agency snort all of the drugs they confiscate instead of just destroying them.

>>11420747
shit most of that is disregardable. as long as i can cover rent i can even use the soup kitchen for food. internet is w/e. electricity is at most 30 a month. running water/sewage is usually included in rent. i take care of my own health and if not, the E.R. has my back.