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Is there any way the universe doesn't end?

>> No.11408383
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>> No.11408414

>>11408380
Only if someone manages to revive the old steady-state theory.

>> No.11408422

>>11408380
>>11408383
The universe is NOT expanding.
Redshift is an artifact of wavelengths being stretched over the course of leaving the gravity well they are emitted from and entering another gravity well.
This explains all the redshift.

>> No.11408430

>>11408414
Or perhaps a new "somewhat-steady-state"?

>> No.11408435

>>11408422
I thought there was some sort of a problem with that theory?

>> No.11408442

>>11408435
The only problem with it is it doesn't allow science to claim the universe started with a Big Bang.

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>>11408414
My gut tells me that there has to be an end to the beginning, so inclined not to believe in steady-state or constant dark matter, as described above. Kinda feel like it has to all come back to the beginning again, so maybe the big crunch (little evidence) or the big rip. Big freeze sounds frightening.
t. cosmology pleb

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>>11408380

>> No.11408538

>>11408442
What does it allow? Or require?

>> No.11408553

>>11408422
pseud

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>>11408477
Is there any proof for or against this?

>> No.11408568

>>11408553
I think I know what you mean, but could you explain?

>> No.11408572

>>11408380
Yeah, it's a loop.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

>> No.11408573

>>11408380
>>>/x/

>> No.11408582

>>11408561
Time.
The universe is AT LEAST 4 dimensional.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AyAK3QBnMGQ

>> No.11408589

>>11408538
It just requires that the light do exactly what we know it does when traversing a distance out of a gravity well to reach an observer in another gravity well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift

>> No.11408594

>>11408582
So is that proof for, or against?

>> No.11408623

>>11408387
uh oh, stinky!

>> No.11408626

>>11408594
Against. You can't be at a place (in the "3D space") if it at the same time wasn't at a specific time, this disproves the first sentence in the picture you asked about...

>> No.11408658

>>11408422
>The universe is NOT expanding.

Big if true

>> No.11408862

egg-shaped permaverse

t. cannabis utilizer

>> No.11409057

>>11408422
The level of stupidity on 4chan never ceases to amaze me.

>> No.11409092

>>11409057
>ur dum
powerful argument

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>>>/x/

>> No.11410030

>821292490
>Same thread started 8 hours later on /b/

You guys are getting your ass kicked

>> No.11411190

>>11409653
>>11409676
...bump?

>> No.11411210

>>11408582
>>11408626
the dimension meme really has gone too far. you heard this shit at one point and you never cease to extrapolate this garbage. time doesn't exist. both time and dimensions are only something you measure

>> No.11411330

>>11408380
If the universe is expanding time would be expanding with it, but this graph still shows time displayed in linear terms.
Explain.

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>>11408380
Depends on what you mean by "universe" and "ends." There's also eternal inflationary cosmology which states the universe is just one of many/infinite amount of universes out there.

>> No.11411584

>>11411573
Nothing ever properly ends in this world, it only changes