/sci/ - Science & Math

>*cuts through the hard problem of consciousness*
define "consciousness"

>>11391377
the reason i don't read Whitehead, Whitehead anon, is because it is retarded /lit/ shit and you should go back.

>>11391382
>lit shit
>be whitehead
>write one of the most important and famous mathematical texts of all time
>pivot and write one of the most important and influential philsophical texts of all time
>lit shit
>mfw

>>11391401
>>write one of the most important and famous mathematical texts of all time
>be Russell's secretary and claim credit
Whitehead was basically that bitch grad student who typed it up after Russel did the work

>>11391377
ill give it a reading

>>11391377
I've tried. I'm literally too much of a brainlet. I'll read a sentence over and over and simply not understand it. Unlike postmodern gibberish, however, I get the impression the sentence actually means something.

pic related is much clearer, more concise, has less problems
consciousness is an illusion

>>11391609
Have you read some of his other stuff (Science and the Modern World, Modes of Thought, Adventures of Ideas)? They are more accessible and you will understand what he is doing in P&R more.

>>11391377
imagine reading this garbage instead of working on science or math

>>11391834
Work on them for what?

>>11391845
>Work on them for what?
results

>>11391845
for what?

>>11391846
for what?

>>11391872
>for what?
for science and math

>>11391874
for what?

>>11391875
>for what?
see >>11391846

>>11391876
see
>>11391872

“Philosophy is not a mere collection of noble sentiments. A deluge of such sentiments does more harm than good. Philosophy is at once general and concrete, critical and appreciative of direct intuition. It is not—or, at least, should not be—a ferocious debate between irritable professors. It is a survey of possibilities and their comparison with actualities. In philosophy, the fact, the theory, the alternatives, and the ideal, are weighed together. Its gifts are insight and foresight, and a sense of the worth of life, in short, that sense of importance which nerves all civilized effort. Mankind can flourish in the lower stages of life with merely barbaric flashes of thought. But when civilization culminates, the absence of a coordinating philosophy of life, spread throughout the community, spells decadence, boredom, and the slackening of effort.”

"Also we must recollect the basis of our procedure. I hold that philosophy is the critic of abstractions. Its function is the double one, first of harmonising them by assigning to them their right relative status as abstractions, and secondly of completing them by direct comparison with more concrete intuitions of the universe, and thereby promoting the formation of more complete schemes of thought. It is in respect to this comparison that the testimony of great poets is of such importance. Their survival is evidence that they express deep intuitions of mankind penetrating into what is universal in concrete fact. Philosophy is not one among the sciences with its own little scheme of abstractions which it works away at perfecting and improving. It is the survey of sciences, with the special objects of their harmony, and of their completion. It brings to this task, not only the evidence of the separate sciences, but also its own appeal to concrete experience. It confronts the sciences with concrete fact."

>>11391881
>“Philosophy is not a mere collection of noble sentiments. A deluge of such sentiments does more harm than good. Philosophy is at once general and concrete, critical and appreciative of direct intuition. It is not—or, at least, should not be—a ferocious debate between irritable professors. It is a survey of possibilities and their comparison with actualities. In philosophy, the fact, the theory, the alternatives, and the ideal, are weighed together. Its gifts are insight and foresight, and a sense of the worth of life, in short, that sense of importance which nerves all civilized effort. Mankind can flourish in the lower stages of life with merely barbaric flashes of thought. But when civilization culminates, the absence of a coordinating philosophy of life, spread throughout the community, spells decadence, boredom, and the slackening of effort.”
>"Also we must recollect the basis of our procedure. I hold that philosophy is the critic of abstractions. Its function is the double one, first of harmonising them by assigning to them their right relative status as abstractions, and secondly of completing them by direct comparison with more concrete intuitions of the universe, and thereby promoting the formation of more complete schemes of thought. It is in respect to this comparison that the testimony of great poets is of such importance. Their survival is evidence that they express deep intuitions of mankind penetrating into what is universal in concrete fact. Philosophy is not one among the sciences with its own little scheme of abstractions which it works away at perfecting and improving. It is the survey of sciences, with the special objects of their harmony, and of their completion. It brings to this task, not only the evidence of the separate sciences, but also its own appeal to concrete experience. It confronts the sciences with concrete fact."
what's the tl;dr?

>>11391884
right here>>11391881

>>11391881
>the secular utility of religion

I don't like to read people who stars their interest in philosophy in their 40s. Normally it should be something between 15-21 y.o. For oldfuck physicians and mathematics it always be am mysterious thing if they don't get into it previously.

Except Kant maybe.

yeah keep blathering about philosophy idiots. we enjoy /lit/ tourist shit here since we get to observe the lower lifeforms attempt their impostor routines

Stirner > Whitehead

>>11391881
all these words and nothing important said, holy kek

>>11391377
Does anyone have any good companions or commentaries to read alongside him?
Also, do I need to read Hegel before reading Whitehead?

>>11391881
So whitehead was a marxist, cool.

>>11392018
The Metaphysics of Experience
Thinking with Whitehead
The Quantum of Explanation: Whitehead's Radical Empiricism
are probably the best supp readings
and nah
>>11392466
He wasn't but they make a good pairing