/sci/ - Science & Math

A day after you die.

I already know the cure for aging but I don't feel like telling anybody

You only fear death because your brain evolved so it would fear death you are a representation of your body's order executing center aka the brain I thought this board was smart guess not

>>11381910
>you only fear death because you fear death

did you think that was a meaningful point?

>>11381910
It's almost like I enjoy living too much, anyone know how to get depressed?

>>11381910
I feel like lifespans as a concept are worthy of debate.
but the aging process itself can fuck off, where is the moral in feeling like shit for the last 30 years of your life?

>>11381936
I mean if aging is solved I think natural death will be solved as well

>>11381910
>humans
>schmart animals
>have a self preservation instinct
Bruh

>>11381900
Every single vertebrate on Earth ages and dies. We are never going to circumvent it.

Kill children and inject yourself with their stem cells

>>11381900
I like that bunny

lol i cant wait to be dead

Allegedly it’s the gradual reduction in telomere size after repetitive cell divisions, poor health habits, and lack of exercise. But then again, if we just placed a body on ECMO, dialysis, intubating on a respirator, put a tube into their stomach to feed them, their body would live just long enough for cancer to eventually kill them.

>>11381910
>you fear death because you dont want to die
this is a high iq thread

Wouldn't it be beneficial for females to live shorter lives since after a certain age their wombs become barren while men are able to impregnate someone pretty much until their deathbed?

>afraid to die of old age

I'm more afraid of living with old age, and age related illnesses. Imagine being forgotten and discarded like an old used tissue. Left with crippling arthritis, barely any hearing or visions left, not knowing if you forgot what you had for breakfast is just slight bit of forgetfulness or if it's full blown could be full blown alzheimer/dementia.

>>11381900
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/aubrey-de-grey-getting-more-optimistic-on-life-extension/

>>11382398
God i'm already like this and i'm in my 20's
t. neet

>>11382322

Not if all women work together in a typical human society to raise and take care of children. A grandmother's help would have been far more beneficial in an age where there wasn't the internet or doctors to impart generational wisdom.

>>11382322
You will reverse the process of physical degeneration including reproductive decay.
Why are brainlets allowed to post here?

Once you get past 60 you won't care. Pretty sure i read a large study one time that showed the fear of death depletes past 60.

It makes sense. By 60 you have experienced everything you can - very unlikely you will do well career wise or financially past that age if you haven't already, most of your relatives will either be dead or dont talk to you, your body starts to become disguising and saggy, you will eventually have to be cared for by some stranger so you can be fed through a tube and change your diapers, then right before death you will be in soo much pain you will be begging to die.

My great grandfather lived past 100 and told me it's fucking boring once you reach your retirement age.

Just imagine immorality. There would come a point where you have done everything and experienced everything humanly possible.

>>11382398
My dad died from Alzheimer's/dementia. I've spent some quality time in nursing homes. It's not a pretty sight and those definitely aren't the "golden years". Those are the years where you fall and break your hip once per year, piss your pants, drool, lose your vision, forget your name, etc. Your body transforms into a hideous prune of what it once was. Your quality of life goes down the toilet and you basically sit around in boredom and misery waiting to die while fantasizing about being young again and being able to bang all of the hot female caregivers who help you take a bath. There's nothing cute or fun about getting old. It's a slow motion train wreck, basically.
Pic related: towards the end, you more so begin to resemble the anon on the left, even though you're still alive.

>>11381900
Don't worry OP I'm going to try and cure it , you just might need to wait a while...

>>11381900
As for when they're going to cure death, given the advance of modern technology, I would guess within 50 years time. It has been speculated that many young children who are around today will be immortal. They will be the first generation that doesn't have to die. Their minds perhaps will be backed up onto computers and new bodies printed for them when the old one starts to wear out.

>>11381900
You fear wasting your life
You've got to beat your body up doing cool shit while you're young so you can't wait for death to free you from your decrepit old body

>>11383054
t. literal retard

>>11381903
worse. a day before you die when you are at your oldest most decrepit. You can then live like that forever bro

>>11383066
haha ok but it would make for a pretty good story. I'm thinking of writing about this for my next book.

>>11383116
No, it would make for a mind-numingly retarded story that would make readers wish they had a gun in their hand to off themselves instead of suffering through the absolutely pants-on-head retarded crap you've managed to put on (figurative) paper.

>>11383111
Nice numerals of truth.
I would live like that and every single day for the rest of time, I would be infinitely grateful.

>>11381907
The Atlanteans did it.

>>11383039
Alzheimer's isn't old age, it's copper deficiency.
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2017/mt/c7mt00074j
Some recent research suggests lithium/rubidium could prevent it as well, I don't see how/why it would work, though.

>>11383149
>n=13
>u of auckland
>rsc
How to spot fraudulent publications.jpg

>>11381900
are you afraid of "death"
or are you afraid of "dying" there's a big difference between the two.

>>11383157
There's no difference. Not even semantics. Unless by 'dying' you mean 'the pain of dying', in which case you both suck at words and are projecting hardcore.

>>11383156
Why would any of that indicate fraud?

>>11382461
i am 24 year old unemployed autist, i barely leave my chair, i lived quarter of a century yet i havent achieved nor experienced shit. At this rate, i will be sad salty old man

>>11383203
>n=13
Impossible to have meaningful stats because there's no way this represents a representative sample as opposed to a biased sample.
Sample was very probably chosen specifically for its conclusion as opposed to the other way around.

>u of auckland
Everything out of there is scientifically shaky or downright fraudulent. This usually goes for anything in oceania but there especially.

>rsc
Bad peer review standards. Think frontiers but worse.

>>11381900
I already cured it.

>>11382290
many things like telomere shortening have been found on the cellular/molecular level, but really nobody knows what is driving it all and how to prevent it

>>11381903
>not signing up for cryonics and getting vitrified after you die

>>11381921
Yeah, get yourself in a situation where you feel you have no control and live in uncertainty and fear of losing what little you have without change despite lots of effort

>>11383230
>Impossible to have meaningful stats
It obviously was enough.
> there's no way this represents a representative sample as opposed to a biased sample.

The representativeness of the sample has nothing to do with sample size. What kind of bias you'd even suspect here?

>Everything out of there is scientifically shaky or downright fraudulent.

Baseless accusation. What would be the reason for the fraud?

>Bad peer review standards.
Meaningless unless you can point out errors in the paper.

>>11383346
>It obviously was enough because my feefees say so reeeee!
>The representativeness of the sample has nothing to do with sample size! My personal anecdote is worth as much as actual studies! REEEEEEE! What kind of bias you'd even suspect here!!!!!!11 I AM MEEEEEE AND I AM ANECDOTE WHY U NO TAEK ME SRS
>Baseless accusation. What would be the reason for the fraud? Who would want to be taken seriously with no effort? NOOOOOO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
>Peer review is meaningless JUST LISTEN AND BELIEVE REEEEE

Absolutely based and redpilled

>>11383365
You obviously have no idea what those terms mean, because it's completely accurate.
They did get meaningful stats. Look at the p-numbersthat are very low despite the rather small sample. It's mostly a concern when the p-numbers are rather high. In fact neding a very large sample means the effect is for all practical purposes meaningless.

Representativeness means the sample is sufficiently random. I can't even imagine what kind of bias could happen here, except perhaps the age of death, but that was accounted for.
> Who would want to be taken seriously with no effort?
What do you mean no effort? You accuse them of fraud because of where the research was done. It seems you want to dismiss it with no effort.
>Peer review is meaningless
I'm not saying it's meaningless. I'm saying that arguing with peer review standards is meaningless unless you can point out errors in the paper. As you may not know, peer review means somebody read the paper and checked it for errors. Not even the most prestigious journals do more

>>11381900
Aging will become irrelevant with advent of transhumanism. Just download yourself bro.

>>11383390
Your butthurt and ignorance are both about equally fascinating. Cry me another river please.

>>11383434
You have no actual arguments, you just desperately want it to by false.

>>11383453
Yum yum yum, your tears are delicious. It's OK timmy, one day your fraud will get you somewhere!

>>11381900
Never.

>>11381900
Not in your lifetime. Make the most of the time you have now and then kill yourself at 60.

>>11381900
>Bro I'm afraid to die of old age

Why? I'm 33 and already tired.

At least in death, you enjoy eternal silence.

>>11383272
you take adrenochrome and human growth hormone like the megarich elite do. then you can live to 110 but you get those red bags under your eyes that make you look liek a demon

>>11381900
You don't know?

>>11383831

he looks like the psychiatrist i was forced to see at 14 years old and put me on a host of anti-psychotics and xanax. he was a demon that piece of shit, he died at age 97 and was an overweight disgusting cunt.

>>11381900
It's already cured.
Will be widely available in ten years
Will be universally available in twenty

>>11382461
I would imagine that if effective immortality was possible, you could simply receive treatment to not be bored by the normal world. Or wipe any memories since you were twenty.

>>11381986
We do a lot of things other vertebrates don't, there's no chance in hell humans won't be biologically immortal some day.

>>11381910
>you're just chemical processes bro

I hate this reddit response, fuck you

>>11381900
won't happen

>>11381910
Thanks! Now that you've blessed me with truth straight from your big brain, I don't want to die anymore!

>>11383461
There are no tears, just annoyance by your stupidity and lack of understanding of what you criticize. Learn how it works first. I bet you are the one who posted the gif of dog with mango worm infection for equally nonsensical reason.
>>11383829
You would not be tired if aging was solved. 33 is too early, you may be lacking nutrients. Copper, magnesium B12, etc.

Where should I start researching how to cure aging???

>>11383901
source?

>>11381900
Go volunteer at a nursing home, or do anything that will allow you to surround yourself with older people. I'm assuming you're young - and most of the people on this board are too. Only people that are facing the problem you are worried about will have the best solutions.

>>11383461
BTW, when you read the conflict of interest section, it's pretty obvious they were trying to prove that AD is caused by copper PISONING. They found the opposite and showed a lot of integrity by publishing it anyway. Accusing them of fraud is complete nonsense.

>>11382461
not just inventing new experiences or consuming practically infinite amount of quality literature and self improving until godhood and then defeating entropy.
what a cuck

Why should you cure aging pigskins if you can breed and get children, they are basically you !!!

>>11384048
I think everybody paying attention to the field have come to similar conclusion. The telomerase technology alone can be that promising, and there are many. Try to visit some conference on the subject, here's one of the best ones to my taste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDU6B3B-cfk
(it's actually way more hardcore science than it seems from that presentation)

>>11384111
The shortening of telomeres is unlikely to be a problem. We have telomerase naturally.

We need to start with nutrition. Copper deficiency, wrong calcium/magnesium ratio, iron overload can be linked to so many diseases that only fixing those could bring lifespans close to 100. Just stop adding chalk and iron to flour and add copper somehow and there should be far less disease. Other nutrients may be a problem though, more research is needed. Fix that, instead of finding cures for something that kills one 10k or trying to make somebody with cancer live one month longer.

>>11384172
>We have telomerase naturally.
Naturally it's switched off in most of the cells.

>>11384182
It's probably supposed to be. There is very little association with telomere length and aging (the range is so high that a 20 year old can easily have shorter telomeres than a 80 year old).
It is also one thing that might be linked to copper deficiency and not aging at all.

>>11384190
>the range is so high that a 20 year old can easily have shorter telomeres than a 80 year old
Is it progeria you're talking about?

>>11384190
>copper deficiency
Should I start selling therapeutic tours to Karabash?

>>11384203
No, normal population.
>>11384207
No, there may be other undesirable things in the environment and it just isn't necessary. The amount you need costs pennies.

>>11384214
>No, normal population.
Show me the data, because I think you're a liar and a copper pills merchandiser.

I’m currently 20. with all the advancements in medicine and emerging anti-aging treatments, how long can I expect to live?

>>11384222
You could just look up something, that shouldn't be controversial.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5425118/
While telomere length is associated with poor health, it most likely isn't something that directly kills most people.

>>11384223
21 with cronavirus

>>11384230
> what is replication crisis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5dvUVuwcxg
Read this short and simple book. It also includes some metaanalysis of the data on the subject.

>>11384253
This has nothing to do with replication crisis, this result has been replicated countless times with essentially the same result.

>>11384259
okay, but doesn't it smiles in your face?
> short telomeres are associated with diminished longevity
> telomere length might play an active role in CVD and longevity.
and what exactly is their statement?
> Here we show that in some individuals LTL becomes critically short at an age younger than that of the current life expectancy.
And how long do those individuals have to live?
> Moreover, we show that with predicted upward trajectories of life expectancy, the proportion of these individuals will only increase in the general population.
Thank you anyway, I'll read it more thoroughly some day.

>>11384265
You really need to explain what you're talking about, because you're talking about something else than everybody else and we can't see into your head.

>>11384274
What is there not to understand?
I'm saying that, according to some data I trust, telomerase action alone can significantly increase ammount of youthful years.
And the way they make this procedure, with aav technology, is the gate for all sorts of genetic therapies.
And that's only one pathway, there're really many, the revolution in the field is happening as we speak.

>>11384302
While I've been telling you the whole time it most likely isn't so. Yes, telomeres get shorter with age, but that isn't anywhere enough to directly kill most people. In fact, it might be just a sign of prolonged (chronic) copper deficiency and not related to aging at all. The mechanism itself is in doubt, because telomeres shorten even in tissues where the cells don't replicate much.

>>11384315
>but that isn't anywhere enough to directly kill most people.
What do you mean directly kill? Cells age (because of few reasons, and shortened telomeres is one of those reasons) and organs fail.
> copper deficiency
gtfo with your copper, there are inevitably some people who had enough of copper or whatever food supplement you'd like to push next, and none of them become immortal (in case you still don't understand what all this fuss is about)
> The mechanism itself is in doubt, because telomeres shorten even in tissues where the cells don't replicate much.
DNA can be damaged from different factors, but it's INEVITABLY gets a cell with a shorter telomere when it replicates. And afaik once we born cells have about 15 divisions left (most of that path to hayflick limit is passed before we are born, because in prenatal development our cells divide as mad)
Do you even know of Hayflick limit? Anything about it you don't understand or don't agree with?

>>11384350
>Cells age (because of few reasons, and shortened telomeres is one of those reasons) and organs fail.
Can't you see the huge ranges within each age compared to the difference between ages? There are young people with short telomeres; they still look young. There are old people with long telomeres. They are still grandpas and grannys.
>gtfo with your copper, there are inevitably some people who had enough of copper or whatever food supplement you'd like to push next, and none of them become immortal (in case you still don't understand what all this fuss is about)
No, but they didn't suffer from ailments that are normally associated with aging, but are not actually caused by aging, but copper deficiency.
>Anything about it you don't understand or don't agree with?
You don't understand. I'm telling you telomeres shorten even in organs where cells don't really divide much at all.

>>11384350
>Cells age (because of few reasons, and shortened telomeres is one of those reasons) and organs fail.
Can't you see the huge ranges within each age compared to the difference between ages? There are young people with short telomeres; they still look young. There are old people with long telomeres. They are still grandpas and grannys.
>gtfo with your copper, there are inevitably some people who had enough of copper or whatever food supplement you'd like to push next, and none of them become immortal (in case you still don't understand what all this fuss is about)
No, but they didn't suffer from ailments that are normally associated with aging, but are not actually caused by aging, but copper deficiency.
You don't really need to eat salt when you are not copper deficient, BTW, which means the vast majority of people in recorded history (with the exception of isolated populations) were actually deficient.
>Anything about it you don't understand or don't agree with?
You don't understand. I'm telling you telomeres shorten even in organs where cells don't really divide much at all.

>>11384359
>There are young people with short telomeres; they still look young.
And some of them probably die young.
Let me explain it the way I understand:
Cells can live with short telomeres alright but only until the hayflick limit is reached and then they can neither replicate nor even function properly. They shorter your telomeres are, the more cells are going to be at that critical level. And if you're so unique that your telomeres are long (I wonder how that can be, because I heard that it's an exact number of 52, but it's a special number, so it could actually be an average. Let's say you took good care about yourself, so your cells wasn't damaged and thus they didn't need to divide so often. Then you still have few other reasons to die of.
> copper deficiency.
I don't know about copper, I've got you, now you get the opposite limit: Elevated copper levels have also been linked to worsening symptoms of Alzheimer's disease.[162][163]
> I'm telling you telomeres shorten even in organs where cells don't really divide much at all.
and what happens when they shorten beyond Hayflick limit?

>>11384362
the response: >>11384374

>>11381900
20-30 years.

>>11384374
>. Let's say you took good care about yourself, so your cells wasn't damaged and thus they didn't need to divide so often. Then you still have few other reasons to die of.
Why don't you stay looking young, then?
>[162][163]
Are you somehow mentally challenged? How am I supposed to look it up. Anyway the "evidence" he presents shows basically the exact opposite - copper didn't used to be thought to be toxic before WWII, people used to cook in copper and even used copper based food pigments, which means people would ingest far higher amounts of copper than today. Copper is being helated from processed foods to prevent browning, also in line with the reduced intake. The effect of trace amount in drinking water must be minimal in comparison to that.

>>11384398
>Why don't you stay looking young, then?
I'm still not convinced you don't look youngER once your cells are rejuvenated. But there are many other things that mess with our looks: aging spots (I suppose they're papilomes, shells on our ships so to say) then there are wrinkles caused by stress (which is treated by botox injections, but I wouldn't recommend them, for a couple of reasons) then some tissues can be dislocated because of all the microtraumas we inflicted on them. and so on.
> Are you somehow mentally challenged? How am I supposed to look it up.
put it in the "'s and look it up in any search engine
I like how you ignore my other questions. It seems you agree on them. I am glad if I helped you to get a little bit more educated. You're welcome.

>>11382461
Well ofc it's fucking boring if you cant move well. If you could have your mind and body at its prime, how could you ever get bored? By the time you experienced everything the world has to offer, it would've developed a billion different things to do.

>>11384403
>I'm still not convinced you don't look youngER once your cells are rejuvenated.
As I said there are old people with long telomeres. We should be seeing grannies looking younger than some young people if telomeres were the deciding factor. We just don't. Why do you keep obsessing over that after virtually everybody else moved on?
>then there are wrinkles caused by stress
Stress depletes copper. Anti aging creams regularly contain copper.
> then some tissues can be dislocated because of all the microtraumas we inflicted on them. and so on
That's bullshit.
>put it in the "'s and look it up in any search engine
That's wat I did. In addition to what I alůready wrote, it's obivous he wrote the papers to promote his patented therapy. There is, by his own data 0.12ppm in drinking water. The recommended intake for pigs (which is however banned due to heavy metal concerns) is 200-250 ppm feed. 0.12 is absolutely insignificant compared to that.
>I like how you ignore my other questions.
There was only one question which didn't make any sense to me, so I ignored that.
> I am glad if I helped you to get a little bit more educated. You're welcome.
You're a fucking retard if you actually mean that.

>>11384414
>As I said there are old people with long telomeres.
exactly, as you said (I'm doubtful about it)
>We should be seeing grannies looking younger than some young people
and some people look younger than other
> if telomeres were the deciding factor.
for looks or for health? You yourself said "While telomere length is associated with poor health" and somehow we both know it tells that "short telomeres are associated with poor health"
> copper
we've got your point, merchant, no need to pushing it so hard
> That's bullshit.
what about this photograph? (it's a trucker's face with one side exposed to sun more than the other)
> There was only one question which didn't make any sense to me, so I ignored that.
So Hayflick limit makes no sense to you and you jumped into this conversation anyway? Did you come here only because you are paid to promote your food supplements?
> You're a fucking retard if you actually mean that.
I thought we were looking for the truth here. Why the fuck you asshole was looking for an enemy?

>>11384431
>and some people look younger than other
Not to the extent suggested by telomeres.
>for looks or for health? You yourself said "While telomere length is associated with poor health" and somehow we both know it tells that "short telomeres are associated with poor health"
It doesn't mean they are they cause the poor health. Association alone doesn't tell you which way the causation goes, or even if one causes the other, or if there is another factor which causes both.
>we've got your point, merchant, no need to pushing it so hard
I'm not selling anything. As I said, the amounts required cost literally pennies. Sobody makes money on selling copper as a supplement.
>what about this photograph?
Most likely bullshit. and the trucker actually suffers some disease, otherwise this would be commonly seen. No idea what it has to do with telomeres, either.
>So Hayflick limit makes no sense to you and you jumped into this conversation anyway?
Hayflick limit doesn't make sense in the context you used it (cells that don't normally divide very often)
>I thought we were looking for the truth here. Why the fuck you asshole was looking for an enemy?
You out of nowhere claimed to teach me, while your knowledge is decades obsolete and much lesser than mine.

>>11384431
>and some people look younger than other
Not to the extent suggested by telomeres.
>for looks or for health? You yourself said "While telomere length is associated with poor health" and somehow we both know it tells that "short telomeres are associated with poor health"
It doesn't mean they cause the poor health. Association alone doesn't tell you which way the causation goes, or even if one causes the other, or if there is another factor which causes both.
>we've got your point, merchant, no need to pushing it so hard
I'm not selling anything. As I said, the amounts required cost literally pennies. Nobody makes money on selling copper as a supplement.
>what about this photograph?
Most likely bullshit, and the trucker actually suffers some disease, otherwise this would be commonly seen. No idea what it has to do with telomeres, either.
>So Hayflick limit makes no sense to you and you jumped into this conversation anyway?
Hayflick limit doesn't make sense in the context you used it (cells that don't normally divide very often)
>I thought we were looking for the truth here. Why the fuck you asshole was looking for an enemy?
You out of nowhere claimed to teach me, while your knowledge is decades obsolete and much lesser than mine.

>>11384057
Totally dude. Except
>multiple comparison, no correction
>n=13
>no gaussian residuals, yet t-tests
>single factor analysis
>even despite all the p-hacking going on, Na is the most significantly different, not Cu
Go defraud some non-/sci/ board, /sci/ isn't retarded enough to fall for it.

>>11384463
you're correct about the trucker, I can give you that
I also don't deny that association doesn't mean causation, only in this case causation was proven in both animal models and human cells. And it was applied to humans only recently, so your lame coda is plain retarded.
> Hayflick limit doesn't make sense in the context you used it (cells that don't normally divide very often)
I asked you what happens when it's reached. What doesn't make sense to you in this question? Doesn't it shorten fast enough to reach the limit? Why did you mention it then?

>>11381900
Next century.

>>11381900
>I'm afraid to die of old age
You'll get over it soon enough.

>>11384502
This is weird. Any time I post something about this, there is this one rabid poster who appears to be shilling against me. It isn't just a normal disagreement, it's really looks like somebody who tries to shut me down, all with the misplaced memes and all. But who would shill against that?
Well, let's see what would happen if I was right. I'm pretty sure that the evidence is extremely convincing for at least obesity, diabetes and alzheimers.
Food industry would start losing money. While it's really more like you burn more, than you eat less. (and you don't need salt for some strange reason), the losses would have to be massive. A lot of popular foods would become broadly unpalatable.
Medical industry would lose on not treating all the people with obesity and diabetes. Massive amounts of money.
You can order a literal ton of copper sulfate for around two thousand dollars. Cure for literally pennies. Careers would end. Both researchers and carers for the affected. Nothing much to research on AD, no potential for patented cures, no need for care for the demented.
Not to mention class law suits for all of the above. I can imagine hospitals getting burned for all the abuse and lies the ill people get, for no reason what so ever.
And what if I'm right about the other stuff?
Imagine children not needing braces, tooth decay being a rare disorder. Dentistry would collapse.
If the eyes turn out to be right - all eyecare, glasses, lenses, billions of dollars worth woudl collapse. Lasik machines would became worthless, together with their staff.

You know it is right, right?

>>11384504
>I asked you what happens when it's reached.
Tissues where cells no longer replicate also lose their telomeres,in the same proportion to rapidly proliferating tissues, contrary to what would be expected.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3615479/

>>11384111
Isn’t this just an event for scam artists to sell their supplements to clueless boomers?

>>11381910
Wow, thanks Neil Degrasse Tyson.

>>11381910
>you’re only hungry because you evolved to be hungry bro just stop eating haha

>>11385025
>Omg when I spout anti-science bullshit people on a science board don't like it! It's a conspiruhsay! Everyone who expect science on a science board is the same person REEE! I don't need proof and research and data, I say it's true and you better believe me! This is how science works am i rite fellow /sci/entists?

Has anyone else started longevity research?

>>11382046
>>11382402
>Aubrey De Grey

has this guy and his money laundering scheme produced anything of value

>>11385426
It's me posting evidence and you attacking me with zero evidence on your side.

>>11386635
>post a scam
>get BTFO
>"my anecdote of one single person claiming a thing with no research is EVIDENCE REEE"
E P I G XDDDD

>>11384395
God, I hope you're correct.

>>11381900
In about tree fiddy years

>>11381900
Aging is never something that can be cured. By implying an immortality without end for yourself, that is, without death, you imply an infinite extension in time, which is too an infinite extension in space, which is the destruction of all otherness.

>>11382450
Women only have a certain amount of eggs though

>>11388041
Women are born with about one million eggs. That's enough for about eighty thousand years.

>>11381900
Just eat your vegetables anon.

>>11381936
If being old was really so bad then old people would kill themselves en masse. But I'm pretty sure the percentage of people who kill themselves is much higher among the groups of ages below 60

>>11383279
huge scam

>>11388927
how is it a scam?

>>11381915
This

>>11388949
This. Please respond.

>>11388949
>>11389975
because you fucking exist now, stop being a fucking bitch and make the most of it

>>11388949
>>11389975
Because nobody has any idea how to unfreeze you. Most likely you're paying just for a super expensive grave.

>>11390231
I don't see how that's a scam, the point is precisely to gamble on someone coming up with an idea in the future. Surely unfreezing is easier than reviving and inventing immortality so surely that won't be a problem by then. The gamble exists much more in the dimensions that it might never happen, there might be technical failure before it happens, and finally, it might be that the freezing method does not allow unfreezing, but everyone is informed of that, so again not a scam.

>>11382461
>By 60 you have experienced everything you can
not if you wasted your life on 4chan

Is there a correlation between looking at the mirror too much and delaying the aging process through the placebo effect? I've noted that when I used to look at the mirror many times per day I end up does not have to make a plastic surgery but when I used to stop being a narcissist for 3 years I've aged horribly!!
does that have anything to with men live shorter that women?

eat hydras, it will make you immortal

>>11390231
>Because nobody has any idea how to unfreeze you.
Do they claim the otherwise? They openly stated that it's yet to invent. What is obviously true is that it will be easier to resurrect you from permafrost than from a decomposed compost.
They also invented vitrification fecently, which made this process less damaging. That technology is still in its early stages (no whole body is vitrified yet, only brains were successfully vitrified recently) yet I don't know much about this technology, but I think they managed to freeze and unfreeze(!) a frog using this technology (which is not surprising, since frogs make this trick themselves, and that is how they found that... (but I shouldn't speak of something I don't know much about, you should research this thing by yourself if you're interested)
Of course scam situation is always possible, since nobody probably controls if the bodies are still in those tanks for example. So, if a tank and equipment to it costs less than a client is asked to pay, then I would raise my brows and suspicions, otherwise "cynicism is the first barrier on the road to success" (no matter how counter-intuitive this (probably botched) quote is)

>>11390556
>if a tank and equipment to it costs more than a client is asked to pay
fixed it myself
I think I heard of suspiciously low prices in a 3d world country. but it was only a head in that case, so I am just tripping (I'm sorry, I'm a little drunk, I leave)

>>11381900
>Bro I'm afraid to die of old age
Ah the fear of death the oldest generator of superstition.
>how soon can we cure aging
Its so phenomenally difficulty that it will take over 1000 years if ever.

The funny part is that you need to iron out all bad solutions that are worse then death.
WE can keep your skin and body alive however your brain will rot and get Alzheimer until you are nothing more then a plant keeps alive by machines. Your mind rotted away.

And preserving your mind is phenomenally difficult.
>Bro I'm afraid to die of old age
And this is why you lath on every superstitious nonsense that promises salvation.

In earlier ages it was religion and the afterlife, today for atheists its some magical cure for aging.

This is why you will believe every lie and every stupidity, because you are afraid of your own death. You are a subhuman who believes wrong things based on your fear of death. I don't have these defects.

>>11381900
Embrace death you fucking coward. The more you sperg out over the inevitable the harder it’s going to be.

>>11390580
Take your meds, schizo.

>>11381900
>afraid to die

imagine being afraid of before you were ever born. that's how fucking stupid that statement is. what you are actually afraid of is loosing your dignity and/or having a painful death. these can be avoided by doing it yourself instead of waiting for mother nature to do it.

tl;dr kys

You'd still have to die. Just maybe get to live a little longer.

>>11382046
>Aubrey De Meme

He has yet to provide any treatments for ageing, and his only response to that accusation is that people aren't giving him enough money.

He's a snake oil salesman, preying on people's fears of death. It'd be more useful if people learnt to accept that death is not a harm, and is a natural part of life.

>>11390631
Cry some more.

>>11390644
>He's a snake oil salesman
Who are you taking about? I'm actually interested.

>>11382251
Based.
Hail death!

>>11390676
Aubrey De Grey.

>>11390631
>"Wah, I've been reminded of my mortality and my futile attempts to cope with it with shitty coping mechanisms, wah!"

Your hope in anti-aging technology is the same as some Christfags hope in resurrection. Its a way for you to avoid having to come to terms with death.

>>11381900

Learn to accept the inevitable. You'll live a far more fulfilling life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CAz_vvsK9M

>>11390784
>>11390780
>>11390672
>>11390632
>>11390625
>>11390580
So this... is the power....... of schizophrenia............ WOAH!

>>11390644
You're literally the virgin deathist

>>11390827
you're schizo? Cool bro.

>>11390827

Do you really think you'll live after 100 years? Do you really think they will cure DEATH by the time you are even a useful candidate to be treated and not 94 years old? We were supposed to be living on the moon and exploring the solar system by now.

Get a grip, the schizo is you and your delusions to make yourself feel better that you're going to be corpse in a blip of our earth's timescale.

Bet you wish you were something so stupid that you couldn't comprehend your own impending doom don't you? TOO BAD. Get a fucking grip worm food.

>>11390863
OK schizo redditard.
(ps: didn't read).

>>11390870
>scared rabbit being scared.

lol didn't expect you. it's more for other people to read and laugh at your own short life.

>>11390870

lol, doesn't think he'll die. how cute.

Bro why worry, youre just gonna reincarnate anyway bro just make sure you dont reincarnate as a chink or pajeet or a woman

>>11390827
>if you aren’t a whiny bitch about an inevitable aspect of life you’re schizophrenic!
I’m really sorry for you anon. I’m equally sorry for anyone who actually believes we’ll cure death.

>>11390235
i think the worry is that it's so uncertain that it's much more likely that the company just goes bankrupt first and they bury/cremate your body in the end

>>11391004
that's also what I expected, but that's hardly a scam.

>>11382251
same desu

>>11390827
>schizophrenia
This doesn't even make sense.

>>11381900
You are cripples by your fear of death so you will believe every lie to imagine a happy ever after.
In previous times this is why religion was attractive to inferiors like you.

>>11391004
Yep
>>11391107
>that's also what I expected, but that's hardly a scam.
Not if everyone involved in this knows this will happen eventually.

>>11391592
Why haven't you taken your meds yet?

>>11391681
How autistic are you? You keep on repeating "schizo" like its some insult you retarded fuck.

I pointed out that the same promises where made and are made by religion before he first futurists was even a jizz in his fathers ball sack.

>>11391686
OK schizoid redditard. Now take your meds. They're good for you. No, you're not "thinking clearer" without them.

>>11391706
Others pointed out to you that you are fucked in the head and spam "schizo".
Look autist you might have picked up the word "schizo" however it only makes you look autistic and retarded if you spam it all over the place.

>>11391715
For the last time, there is no conspiracy against you. The pills are there to help you. Take them already.

>>11391718
>is no conspiracy against you.
The fuck? This was never stated you retarded peace of shit.
What is even your position in this life extension discussion?

>>11391718
Take your meds schizo the adults are talking

>>11391720
>>11391735
OK schizo.

>>11391735
>>11391746
OK so what do others think about the parallels between religion and futurism? See >>11391592

>>11391762
It's schizo bullshit for schizos and belongs on >>>/x/

>yfw Max More of Alcor used to write pro-peadophillia essays and has links to Jeffrey Epstein

>>11391765
What is?
Futurism promises a cure to death and aging because people are afraid of death.
Religion promises a cure to death and aging because people are afraid of death.
The same promises to cope with the same fear.

Death is like being under general anaesthetic for eternity. Literally nothing to fear.

>>11391769
Fuck off schizo. >>>/x/
>>>/trash/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/cm/
>>>/hm/
>>>/y/

>>11391771
Now that's some schizo posting.

this thread is fucking stupid, like OP.

>>11390784
based strokes poster

>>11381900
This millennium long after we’re gone if humanity doesn’t go extinct first.