/sci/ - Science & Math

No. "Time is the fourth dimension" is a popsci meme

>>11376078
no, you are a meme

>>11376076
Time is not a "dimension". That idea is cancer, coming from religious people who worship the Jew Einstein and "Consensus Science" (which isn't science -- Truth isn't found by a voting).

> What is Time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OvltlOA8XE

>>11376076
1 second = 186,000 miles.

>>11376083
at least i'm not a popsci meme

>>11376087
>Electric Universe cult
Fuck off.

>>11376092
>Waahhh! Waaahhhh! Someone posted truthful knowledge which contradicts my Jewish brainwashing!! Waaahhh! This hurts!! Lord (((Einstein))) plz save me!!

>>11376096
>(((MUH JEWS))))
it comes full circle back on the /pol/tards. all you can do is repeat your echo chamber memes like true NPCs

>>11376092
>he believes time is a dimension
>he believes time is a fabric
>he believes time can be stretched
>he believes time can be warped
>he believes time is a tangible thing
>he believes in space-time

>>11376096
You don't need to be retarded just because you recognize jews are bad people you retard. Try being slightly less gullible. Electric Universe might be even worse than falling for Scientology to be honest with you here.

>>11376098
>/pol/tards
Thanks for exposing yourself. You truly do worship Einstein.

>>11376102
Same with you.

Time is tapering congruence, sort of like a bulge on a data tape infinitely long.

It exists because people agree, we are literally all in the singularity and so many of you want to keep your heads in the sand that I gotta slap you from the internet.

>>11376101
I didn't claim any of that. Just pointed out you're a retard who fell for Electric Universe bullshit.

>>11376103
Not same with me because I don't subscribe to Electric Universe / Thunderbolts Project like you do. This is a one-way street of poor judgement here.

>>11376103
>You truly do worship Einstein.
great argument. you realize that special relativity is confirmed literally billions of times per day at every particle physics experiment in the world including the LHC, brookhaven, DESY, KEK, SLAC, etc etc? you realize that right? and yet you still hang onto 1930’s “Jew Physics” memes because einstein being right just fucks your worldview

>>11376102
Great minds discuss ideas, concepts, facts and science. Small minds (like yours) work on solely on emotion and are programmed to automatically attack any individual or group of individuals who presents science and facts which contradicts your belief system.

When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths, they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes while screaming the name of the individual who presented the information. For example as you demonstrate here: >>11376106 and >>11376108

You can't deal with the science. At all. You have absolutely no ground to stand on. You cannot confront it, you cannot discuss it, because it's rock solid and far beyond your ability to comprehend.

Just try, debunk the following. We're waiting.

https://www.tau.ac.il/~colin/courses/AtmosElec/Potemra%20ASS%20144.pdf

http://www.ptep-online.com/2015/PP-41-13.PDF

http://www.ptep-online.com/2018/PP-53-01.PDF

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/2016JA023789

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251427744_Antisunward_net_Birkeland_current_system_deduced_from_the_Oersted_satellite_observation

https://www.ann-geophys.net/26/499/2008/angeo-26-499-2008.pdf

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOAAJ/TOAAJ-4-191.pdf

https://backend.orbit.dtu.dk/ws/files/150063011/Laundal_et_al_2018_Journal_of_Geophysical_Research_3A_Space_Physics.pdf

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a109/a643e309fa57d6c3146a753e0b817ae2f374.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268156738_The_magnitudes_of_the_regions_1_and_2_Birkeland_currents_observed_by_AMPERE_and_their_role_in_solar_wind-magnetosphere-ionosphere_coupling

https://opensky.ucar.edu/islandora/object/articles:16940/datastream/PDF/view

http://www.issibern.ch/teams/fieldaligncurrents/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ISSI_FACs_2014.pdf

>>11376118
any post like this is suspect for copypasta. especially with all the ad-hominem. i didn’t even read any of your links but please give me the tl;dr on what your argument is

if it happens to be EU then please die

>>11376118

More for you to try disproving:

https://files.catbox.moe/b3aur6.pdf

https://youtu.be/J4NffTr_GMk

https://youtu.be/Dk2-lH9ewuA

https://youtu.be/ev10ywLFq6E

https://youtu.be/I8y3VrrVEpI

https://youtu.be/Dz2A4qXJQjc

https://youtu.be/-FdWTH08u30

https://youtu.be/Q185InpONK4

https://youtu.be/CHZ5O0jTH8A

https://youtu.be/kI14fpM3ouU

https://youtu.be/Iz8RRN8rY00

https://youtu.be/yc9PB_4F-OU

https://youtu.be/lmROfjgViLE

https://youtu.be/FIgmsQOKnmk

https://youtu.be/kz-Bwi5xTTs

https://youtu.be/p8lKQMEYYLw

https://youtu.be/xUC_a-IMmGs

https://youtu.be/nLC4MA6_Oq0

https://youtu.be/MvNCWMD6so4

https://youtu.be/4IdMz8PkGZM

https://youtu.be/SeIHTCdOGWs

https://youtu.be/_c9M33FLH40

https://youtu.be/-03lh_tHMJ0

https://youtu.be/TiKYvUtpJXA

https://youtu.be/hC_KkLvG22A

https://youtu.be/ot-9R2GZxp8

https://youtu.be/TdYrgJrBFr0

https://youtu.be/-03lh_tHMJ0

>>11376112
>general relativity and special relativity
Both have been proven false over and over again, and completely debunked.

The religious believers in mainstream "Science!" are legit schizos, without even knowing it. To believe in "black holes" you literally /must/ be a schizo. It requires a schizo mind. It requires doublethink. "Black holes" violate Einstein's Relativity theories (which itself is full of problems). Yet you're supposed to believe in Relativity at the same time. And "Black holes" (as they are defined by the "black hole" believers) can't exist in a Big Bang universe. Yet you're also supposed to believe in the Big Bang at the same time. And going by the "official" "black hole" "science", there can't be multiple "black holes" at the same time in the same universe, yet you're meant to believe there are.

>>11376123
>I have nothing, I can't deal with the science and I can't challenge any of it scientifically, I will just keep screaming about the "EU"

>>11376118
>Great minds discuss ideas, concepts, facts and science. Small minds (like yours) work on solely on emotion and are programmed to automatically attack any individual or group of individuals who presents science and facts which contradicts your belief system. When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths, they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes while screaming the name of the individual who presented the information.

>When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths, they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes while screaming the name of the individual who presented the information.

>When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths

>they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes

>>11376123
>i didn’t even read any of your links
Pottery.

>>11376126
>thunderbolts project
stopped reading there

>>11376118
>Great minds discuss ideas, concepts, facts and science. Small minds (like yours) work on solely on emotion and are programmed to automatically attack any individual or group of individuals who presents science and facts which contradicts your belief system. When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths, they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes while screaming the name of the individual who presented the information.

>When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths, they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes while screaming the name of the individual who presented the information.

>When small minds like yours are confronted with uncomfortable scientific truths

>they run away from the facts covering their ears and eyes

>>11376131
>"stopped reading there"

Pottery.

You've made it 100% clear for everyone seeing this thread that you are 100% incapable of dealing with the science. You can't disprove any of this:

>>11376118
>>11376126


I rest my case.

PSA: this thread is now a Electric Universe pseud thread. all posts from here on out are guaranteed to be either pseudoscience or anons making attempts at debunking pseudoscience ideologues. but the EU pseuds are very persistent so you can bet that they will spam their shit harder than any real scientist would, since EU is a conartist game that lives on spamming platforms like 4chan as opposed to doing any real science and putting it on real scientific platforms, since EU has absolutely 0 in the way of real science

This is what Electric Universe cultists actually believe.
>The broad claim is that traditional astrophysics is wrong, particularly in the way it deals with gravity, or prioritizes gravity in its models. As an alternative it presents a model where gravity plays a minor role. Planets, stars and galaxies are guided and even formed through electromagnetic forces. The universe is electric, not gravitational.
>Dude, this plasma form looks like ancient artwork! Let’s rewrite physics!
>As they write in the first chapter, after more than thirty years spent studying ancient history they have come to the shocking conclusion
>The evidence suggests that only a few thousand years ago planets moved close to the earth, producing electrical phenomena of intense beauty and terror. Ancient sky worshippers witnessed these celestial wonders, and far-flung cultures recorded the events in the great myths, symbols, and ritual practices of antiquity.
>There’s a lot of strange claims made in the EU model, but one of the strangest is that stars are not powered by nuclear fusion. Findlay’s book reiterates this point numerous times, arguing that fusion does not occur in stars. In chapter 4, Findlay writes:
>We will be returning to the idea of nuclear fusion-powered stars later to delve into why this, in fact, is not the way the Sun works and to take a close look at how all stars actually do work, electrically of course.
>In Chapter 6, Findlay explains that stars shine due to cosmic electric currents flowing through a star’s plasmasphere. Rather than nuclear fusion, stars are powered like an arc light. There are two big problems with this idea. One is that without nuclear fusion, the Sun would produce no neutrinos, but solar neutrinos have long been observed. The second is that plasma arc light doesn’t emit light in a continuous thermal spectrum, whereas the observed spectrum of the Sun is a thermal blackbody.
https://archive.briankoberlein.com/2018/01/27/just-so-story/index.html

>>11376076
what the fuck is going on on this board? there's obvious psyops with all the race bait shit on /b/, kinda surprised it's here too. that or highly motivated conspiracy theorists.

I'll make this easy for whoever else finds this thread. If someone uses data to come to a different conclusion than the researchers who collected the data, it's propaganda. A competing idea can and should be proven by observation. Reinterpretation of someone else's data is sketchy unless it is supplemented with contradictory data.

Plasma cosmology filled a few gaps at the time but other models and tools worked better at predicting data. Why does that become a conspiracy theory?

>>11376126
>another schizo wall-of-text
take your pills

>>11376170
They get it first from their /pol/ background because of the "jew science is a lie / Einstein was a fraud" angle. Then from there they get into the Electric Universe "science" alternative and head over to /sci/ to discuss it because they genuinely believe this is the scientifically correct framework for understanding physics and anyone who thinks otherwise was just brainwashed by mainstream academia.

>>11376180
ugh it's like the postmodernists on /lit/ You can disprove any of science or physics with data and theory. hell, that's kinda the point, reinvent the model when you get new data. all these poor bastards with secret knowledge that would change the world if only not for the perceived boogeyman. if it's real it's there for the taking, do it.

>>11376112
The scientist equivalent of a communal neckbeard setup.

>>11376197
I am. God of Time here, just waiting until you scientists calm the Large Circle Jerk collider thought experiment down.

>>11376201
the alt-right equivalent of a newager science denier. your version of “chakras” is for sure some evangelist christian shit, right?

>>11376076
Sure you can relate distance and time via a rate

>>11376204
It's kinda telling that I'm lumped in with the LHC researchers. like entertaining data and a model makes me "one of them" instead of seeing someone as an individual with an opinion. who knows, maybe i'm a jew psyops infiltrator getting paid to suppress the truth.

>>11376208
Why make me google the word chakra?

>>11376224
You can be anything you like in my world. I dont charge anyone for any service I provide.