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So, assuming he starts reading somewhere in next 18 months and being able to start learning, what are some good kids books for Science & Math related topics?

I'm a programmer myself, but have all kinds of other hobbies as well, be it drawing, writing, building things, etc.. However, I'm not sure when and how to go on about teaching him all the things to develop him properly. My dad kind of doesn't give a fuck, even though he demands discipline, but I want to develop his skills in terms of problem solving and raise his creativity as much as possible. I don't care, if he ends up being a ballet dancer, but I just want him to have a good start and spark interest in him to pursue a good life and carer that he'll be happy with and not confused and misguided.

I'm completely sure I can teach him up to high school math and C++ programming by the age of 8 (and perhaps start with JS and web development, where he'll see things move actually on screen), but there will come a time when I'll have to stop sparking interest in him and he himself will have to do things on his own and find pleasure in doing them. I also don't want to put too much pressure on him, because kids deserve childhood, but how does one go on about this thing.

Any book recommendation for first small steps into math / physics / engineering / biology and just in general also problem solving puzzles?

The second thing is general knowledge about world, what are some good books for that? It's hard to explain to kid how world works (economy, politics) and how society/individuals work (psychology, sociology),..

>> No.11370973

>>11369427
I want to know it too. My sisters can already read, but its hard to get them to learn things since most stuff is really complex for them. I honestly mostly try to set an example by studying hard and showing them the cool stuff that I do, but I'd like to be able to take a more direct approach. I'm thinking of practical stuff most likely.
On another note, unless your whole family is comprised of geniuses, I'd believe C++ at 8 is way too early. I've seen how smart they are at such age, and I have serious doubt almost any of them can. I'd probably start with some pseudo-language that can make them grasp the idea, and if you must keep them engaged with some cool project you'll probably have to do the hard lifting of coding the actual functional part of the code or use some language that does that for you if the scope is limited enough that it is acceptable.

>> No.11370985

You might want to try downloading the old school classic Bill Nye The Science Guy series. Those are great and actually accurate science learning for kids. Honestly,one of thr reasons I'm into science and technical stuffs was from watching the show as a kid

>> No.11371018

>>11369427
You just have to make learning fun. Do interesting and fun science experiments that can engage young kids (rockets, chemistry demos, anything visual), program games and cool demos, build shit with legos/electronics/etc, explain and demonstrate how math is involved in everything you're doing and why it's important until he's able to appreciate its intrinsic value. Don't try to force anything when he's frustrated or uninterested or you might end up pushing him away from said thing. Maybe start with Scratch when he's really young and move to Python / C / a flavor of BASIC instead of C++ whenever he seems mature enough to understand them (imo C++ has a lot of complexity kids wouldn't like dealing with).

Try to guide his interests moreso than directly teaching him what you think he should learn. If he's interested then he'll come to you for teaching/guidance.

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>> No.11371036

>>11369427
Science is a waste of time as a job. Learn a trade.

>> No.11371053

>>11371029
It's so infuriating to think about how much of a failure American education is. I'm not sure if Europe's much better, but in the US the pace of the class (and basically the curriculum as a whole) is set by the slowest and dumbest 10%.

>> No.11371057

>>11369427
Interest creates interest. If your enthusiasm goes viral that is all it takes to get your brother into it.

>> No.11371140

What is the appropriate age to teach a child about the ramifications of the second law of thermodynamics?

>> No.11371151

>>11371140
Just mention it to them and see how many questions you get back. If they accept it and just drop the subject, they aren't ready. If they have some serious issues with how energy works and why order is able to exist if things can only tend toward disorder, then they're ready.

2nd law is truly the childrens redpill.

>> No.11371159

>>11371151
>If they have some serious issues with how energy works and why order is able to exist if things can only tend toward disorder, then they're ready.

Second law only holds in closed systems, which don’t exist except for maybe the universe itself. Earth isn’t a closed system.

>> No.11371183

>>11371159
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I'm being a schizo and life shouldn't be allowed to exist or something, I just mean that a child who is ready to think about the 2nd law is one who would have some questions. On their own, this concept should be something they take to be untrue, one of the first logical thoughts after hearing that everything tends to disorder should be well why is order allowed to exist? If they aren't thinking of that on their own then you'll just be talking to a wall if you start going on about open and closed systems and earth relative to the universe, etc. That's how you'll tell if they're ready or not