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1136748 No.1136748 [Reply] [Original]

Why does the world rate entertainers so highly when they do next to nothing for progressing. Sure entertainment is important but to pay them 100's of times more than the people that actually get shit done is just stupid.

Discuss.

>> No.1136760

It's because faggots like Aristotle said that art is morally good.

Some people actually still believe that.

>> No.1136766

Because we pay them what is the aggregate human and corporate opinion of their worth.

>> No.1136769

Because LAST DAYS OF ROME.
>>1136760
AHAHAHAHAH! Art.

>> No.1136768

Entertainers don't get pyed a lot. I played my tin whistle out on the street for an afternoon and made about a buck.

>> No.1136771
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1136771

And sometimes their tits pop out.

>> No.1136773

>>1136766

>> No.1136781

>>1136766
This. l2marketeconomyanditsdrawbacks

>> No.1136786

We live in a society where people who are good at throwing balls around are given a higher social standing than the people who are trying to figure out our existence.

I feel trapped in this time. I wish I was born far in the future where religion didn't exist, there was world peace, and everyone worked to progress the human race. Instead I'm stuck with a bunch of violent, superstitious apes who waste their lives watching other people play with balls.

>> No.1136789

>>1136748

Most people in the entertainment industry get paid shit. A few (less than 0.1%) make a fortune because people all over the world will pay to see them.

>> No.1136790

Because although science is useful its not entertaining
It like a match between a pogo stick or a hammer
Sure a hammer was used to build your house but the pogo stick is so much cooler

>> No.1136804

>>1136786

Give me a fucking break you aspie faggot. Now is an incredible time to live in and if you weren't busy sulking over baseball players you would see that.

>> No.1136805

>>1136748
How is it stupid? You're stupid if you think it's stupid. Entertainers performing makes people want to watch. People have to pay to watch. Demand of the time of a popular performer skyrockets, and since there is a limited amount of supply, performers can charge as much as the market is willing to pay. High school supply and demand in effect. Obviously unpopular performers get paid next to nothing because the demand for their time is also next to nothing.

>> No.1136807

>>1136789

True but 0% of sciencists get payed millions per year unless they also run their own research group, in which case it now falls under business.

>> No.1136810
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1136810

I was thinking the other day.
Most people won't make even $3,000,000 in their entire working life. Just think about the people that make that in less than 5 years.. Hell less than 1 year.

Depressing knowing that you won't make (in your entire life) what someone makes in 1 year, isn't it? So if you ever do have a kid, fuck school make him/her a pro athlete from birth.

>> No.1136811

>>1136786

No you don't.

Consider football. Most footballers do not get paid as they play for teams outside the league. Most of the players who play in the lower divisions get paid crap wages... and they have a fairly low social status. It's only the very best players in the premier division who make serious money from football or have any status.

There are superstar scientists who get paid a fortune as well... it's just that they are not as well publicised as footballers.

>> No.1136813

because 20 000 people won't buy $100 tickets to watch me do research

but they will to see Lady Gaga.

>> No.1136818

>>1136810

Except that lot's of people have the same idea. And the vast majority of these kid's with pushy parents don't become pro athletes... or they become lower tier pro athletes which means they get paid shit.

>> No.1136819

well that's life :)

>> No.1136823
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>>1136786

>> No.1136827

>>1136811

Once again, this may be the top, but even the top sciences rarely if ever get this much attention/money. Sports on TV every damn night but the fact that life has been synthesised, a very large breakthrough in science, appeared on... 1 news broadcast here in australia.

>> No.1136831

>>1136804

I don't find this time to be incredible. I can't read the news without being disgusted by the bad decisions people who are inferior to me are making. It troubles me that there is crime and violence. It troubles me that our society worships imaginary people, food, athletes and entertainers. I am not happy in this time, because I know we have the capacity to do so much more and to live so much better.

>> No.1136833

>>1136807
Hey atleast scientists can make a living out of science even if they're mediocre
Besides there's tons of ways to become rich with science
I mean science is useful by nature. People are willing to pay more for things that will increase productivity or solve a problem than entertainment.

>> No.1136840

>>1136811
>There are superstar scientists who get paid a fortune as well... it's just that they are not as well publicised as footballers.

THAT WAS HIS ENTIRE FUCKING POINT.
Jesus.

>> No.1136841
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1136841

And tits.

>> No.1136843

>>1136827

The average person cannot appreciate science. it takes a lot of education. the "entertainers" of the acedemic world are the engineers. They sell the science to the masses.

>> No.1136845

>>1136831

I agree 100%, but you just gotta keep going, ignore everyone elses shit and just work to make yourself happy.

>> No.1136857

>>1136813
That's very fucking sad.

>> No.1136860

>>1136748
>world rate entertainers so highly

THEY DON'T, ENTERTAINERS ARE SHIT TIER, JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER THEN ENGINEERS (FAGGOTS)

>> No.1136865

>>1136748
butthurt fag detected.

>> No.1136873
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1136873

TITS!

>> No.1136871

>>1136845

I'm doing graduate work in polymer chemistry, nevertheless it's troubling to think of all the wasted minds and potential. I'm having my head cryogenically preserved upon death, perhaps I will be revived in a better time.

>> No.1136872

>>1136865

Go back to /b/ troll.

>> No.1136876

>>1136873
dem scars

>> No.1136881

>>1136786
So write a book about it. Get rich. Meet Brangelina when book becomes movie.

>> No.1136883

>>1136760
> Aristotle
> Art
> is morally good
You best be trolling nigger.

>> No.1136900

If you guys think that being an entertainer is so easy why don't you guys do it yourselves?

>> No.1136910

>>1136900

We don't want to waste our lives?

Look at the types of people who actually aspire to be entertainers. They are all imbeciles.

>> No.1136912

i think that here is something more about this
the media is payed to make singers and actors more famous and to make them look like non human beings

the scientist should be idolized not some stupid bitch who's only good at sucking dick and singing

even on the documentary channels all the films there are kind of short and don't explain the real stuff

i think this is made on purpose to keep the masses dumm and easy to control

that's why they don't invest more money into education, hell my high school was just a joke..

>> No.1136916

>>1136900

>>>/b/ camwhores

Free and definitely better than anything else.

>> No.1136921

>>1136910
Ok have fun not wasting your lives then

>> No.1136928

>>1136910

>They are all imbeciles.

HERP DERP

>> No.1136930

>>1136748
> Why does the world rate entertainers so highly when they do next to nothing for progressing.
Not everyone places infinite value on whatever you consider 'progressing.'

/thread

>> No.1136935

>>1136900
>>1136921
Completely destroyed /sci/'s argumentation in 2 sentences. One internet to you, Sir.

>> No.1136938

>>1136900

No one ever said it was easy... We know its hard, as previously stated only like 0.1% on entertainers make it big. Thats not the point we are argueing.

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>>1136748
Well OP you have to understand. Do people want to progress or feel good? Do they want to study or be entertained. You have to realize everything we place worth on is completely arbitrary and there is no innate good thing, or product people want to buy.

People want to buy entertainment more than they want science.

>> No.1136954

>>1136910
Most actors are pretty intelligent.

>> No.1136948

>>1136930

You consider singing progressing the human race?

>> No.1136968

>>1136954
yeah right..
their names deserve to be next to Einstein and Newton

>> No.1136982

>>1136942
Omg no they don't
You think people would rather get cheap alternatie fuels or a cure for cancer or get the new lady gaga cd?

>> No.1136996

>>1136982

Lady Gaga CD for instant gratification rather than investing their money they might not see for another 20 year.

>> No.1137000

>>1136982
If it meant that the cure for cancer meant picking it off the shelf at walmart, sure. But pay scientists thousands of dollars over the course of many years with no returns? Lady Gaga wins easily

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>>1136996
>Lady Gaga CD for instant gratification rather than investing their money they might not see for another 20 year.
>rather than investing
>investing
Because that's proven a good idea recently.

>> No.1137031

>>1136948
Of course not. I also don't consider 'progressing the human race' to be of infinite value. Catching on yet?

>> No.1137038

>>1137016
>Implying my wine stocks I invested in aren't increasing in value at 20% a year

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>>1137016

>> No.1137061

>>1136912

No it's just that human's like other people. Even when science shows are shown on TV they take a great deal of care to make them human interest programs as well as science shows.

That's just how people behave. If you feel so fucking strongly about it why don't you do something about it instead of bitching on 4chan.

>> No.1137104

>>1136996
>>1137000
>>1137031
>>1137016
>>1136954
>>1136942
>>1136930
>>1136916
etc.

prove that most people are just stupid
they can't even see what's good for them

>> No.1137169

>>1137061
i wish it was that easy.. and i don't even know if it is done on purpose
and what happened to we are a legion, sharing an idea here can wake some people or it just works for "rule 34" and "tits or gtfo"
it's not about me or you 1 person can't do shit for something to change we should all act

>> No.1137209

supply and demand.

but dont be fooled the right ppl, the devoted ones, the ones that dont look for credit or justification from other ...they are the real wealth.

>> No.1137238

>>1137104
> I know what's good for mankind and everyone else is dumb
Sure is sixteen years old in here.

>> No.1137513

>>1136790
I hate how stupid this is.
And how much it's true.