/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11365879
sage

>>11365879
Yes, I can't build muscle.

>>11365879
>psychology/sociology
>science

>>11365879
Yes

>>11365926
>Genetics and evolution is not scientific
Brainlet

>>11365879
Mostly the problem is that inkels exagerate how selective women are.

>bro its applied _[actual scientific field]_
>therefore its scientific

>>11367475

>>11367537
Working as intended. Disappear or dedicate yourself to something else. Needing women to validate yourself is cancerous. You shouldn't focus on external validation.

>>11367549
Cope. Your market value determines your worth. The value you assign to yourself personally is only a means to express your value to others.

>>11367591
You don't get a high market value if you wait for someone to give it to you and value yourself low in the mean time.

>>11365879
>>11365879
Everyone loves to tote the Dark Triad study, but has anyone done a similar study on men? There is no doubt in my mind that men would score just as badly as women in such a study. This is anecdotal evidence, but the entirety of my male friends specifically go for bossy, bitchy, entitled women. Half of my friends have dated a known cheating manipulating "crazy bitch" because they think she's hot. These are intelligent guys that openly mock this kind of woman but then fell for all of her fake nerd girl quirky uwu tumblr girl bullshit the second she gave them an opportunity to touch her D-cups. Why do you think it's so accepted within male culture that wives/gfs are entitled, selfish, irrational bitches? It's because men go out of their way to select such women. Women who aren't like this don't register as feminine enough to be interesting to men.

I also roll my eyes about at all these studies about women caring about looks being presented as if it's such a shocking revelation about the true evil of le femoids. Like, are we just going to pretend that men's primary criterion isn't fuckability? But when women care about looks, it's so shocking? It's only shocking because women haven't really been allowed to discuss their sexuality historically so men just expect that we're asexual beings who will reward anyone with a nice personality. And women perpetuate this myth because they're socialised not to hurt men's feelings and pretend any man with a kind heart deserves a chance and will eventually find happiness. Now that liberal feminism is hip and women are done pretending, men are mad. At least we had the decency of pretending. Men certainly have never been so kind to us. I remember growing up every girl in my middle school was starving herself because she knew no man would even deign to look at her if she wasn't underweight. Now men are salty they have to suffer as we have suffered.

>>11365926
It's related to the biological concept of sexual selection

>>11365879
cont:

I also remember this entire site losing their minds because some cute girl got locked up for murder. Guys are even worse with that idolising criminals if they're hot girls shit. Remember that crazy girl who killed her bf but was dubbed "too pretty to go to jail"?

The fact that no one ever bothers to check whether these claims apply to men is classic male projection. You just assume you're perfect and only women have the audacity to fail the arbitrary standards of being saints who don't care about looks and exist to reward good men.

An obvious scientific flaw is laying out that x% of women have rape fantasies and declaring that this is because women biologically want to get raped, without even considering the obvious confounding factor of socialisation. Throughout human history women have had to live with rape as an inevitable part of their normal reality so it's quite expected that eventually they would just get stockholm'd into being stuck with rape fantasies.

When men allow their gfs to cuck them and use them for money, you guys are all like "this is proof that feminism has gone too far and women have brainwashed men into letting themselves be abused" but for some reason when the exact same scenario with flipped genders it's "obviously it's because women want to be abused!" Yeah well I guess men want to be used as pay pigs then, since they keep going for women who use them that way.

age graphs: We're supposed to only look at the highlighted part and be like "wow women are having way more sex than men" but if you look anywhere past the youngest age range, it's actually men having the most sex. Hmm, could this possibly suggest that men selectively fuck young girls but women are okay with fucking older guys?


Ultimately, I believe that female hypergamy really does exist, and that bluepill "just be nice and shower" is BULLSHIT. But whoever compiled these "stats" is a brainlet with no understanding of correlation v causation.

>>11367633
>Like, are we just going to pretend that men's primary criterion isn't fuckability

as it should be, given youthfulness, clear skin etc in a woman is a strong indicator of fertility and ability to take a healthy pregnancy to term

>But when women care about looks, it's so shocking?

yes, because women lie about it constantly.

>Now that liberal feminism is hip and women are done pretending, men are mad

not really, women need men more than men need women

>I remember growing up every girl in my middle school was starving herself because she knew no man would even deign to look at her if she wasn't underweight

all you had to do was not be fat, society tells me i'm a piece of shit for not conforming to certain molds as well but i just ignore it. maybe "strong and independent" girls can do that too, yeah? plus, fat acceptance is all over the place these days, seems like whatever form women take, in the end men will settle for it. reverse isn't true

I would never, ever fuck a guy who was a virgin past the age of 25

Tranny here.
I feel the instinct to do the same thing that women do but because of my incel past, I am open to incels that I like ofc.

>>11367694
I would but only if he was someone I saw great things in. I do see it in some guys.

>>11367701
Maybe, but being a virgin that late in life likely indicates some weird personality complex.

>>11367707
Maybe he's introverted. And will stay devoted. That's cute.

>>11367697

You can't do the same thing women do because you don't have the basic prerequisite. No womb means no power.

You think billions of men tolerate women's bullshit because of sex and companionship? Fuck off.

>>11367721
>You can't do the same thing women do because you don't have the basic prerequisite. No womb means no power.
Yes I know. That's why it's kind of meaningless for me to assume I'll help any incel. But I'm sharing my perspective. I'm male and I think the same way girls do when it comes to relationships.

>You think billions of men tolerate women's bullshit because of sex and companionship?
Yes that's true as well. But not true for everyone. Might be true for some people. Idk

>>11367682

>yes, because women lie about it constantly.

Yes, we had to lie to protect men's feelings because we weren't allowed to have our own needs. Men have no problem straightup telling us we don't matter unless we're hot. But we're the cruel ones somehow. This argument really shoots itself in the foot.

>all you had to do was not be fat
Spoken like someone who has never starved themselves at age 10.You just have no idea. At the age of 12 my friends were obsessing over tiny blemishes, pores, doing their makeup in such a way that they look flawless, never tired or sick, but without looking like there's too much bc that's slutty, dressing not too casually but not too sexy or else they'll get raped, obsessing over any tine fold of extra skin on their thighs, learning to act girly but not too girly or else they're bimbos, and posting edgy shit to tumblr about how no one cares about you unless you're pretty or dying.


>society tells me i'm a piece of shit for not conforming to certain molds
Welcome to the reality that women have been facing since the beginning of fucking time. Men seriously are so tone-deaf and oblivious. Women have had every detail of their appearance and behaviour nitpicked to hell and back. Fat acceptance is a direct response to the fact that it used to be a regular thing for literal children to starve themselves to look acceptable for men. FA is annoying braindead libfeminism and it's bullshit that fat men are left behind but this is why the bluepillers rol their eyes at incels bringing up the 2 years of fat acceptance existing as proof that men have no rights.


And it's clear you skimmed my post to pick out quotes to "clap back at the libfems" instead of actually reading and employing critical thinking. Ultimately incels have the same problem as libfems. They're too emotionally driven, black-and-white thinking, rules for me but not for thee, us good them bad. The blackpill is real but the avg incel is too retarded to argue it properly.

>>11367633
>claim to try to impress others with good behavior
>no tits.
fake. gtfo.

>>11367751
Lol. Isn't that against the rules? Besides, when I post my tits on 4chan people are typically pretty mean about them. But, you know, all I have to do is not be fat right? :^)

>>11365879
I bet you can find research to construct any narrative you want
and it reads like written by a short asian guy with a small pp, who is mad at the world oh and he also has some inferiority complex based on his perceived iq

>>11365879
not an incel but im loving this wiki and think it's mostly been true valid stuff. can't find some of the studies they reference. otherwise, great read.

>>11365879
these people are brutalists (they value the superficially imposing). if you are a brutalist, then yes, it's absolutely scientifically valid because your personality is only going to appeal to other people who think the way you do. you'll find them at the gym. they're incredibly vain (males and females). that's not everyone at the gym, most people just like working out and being healthy. brutalists are the ones who diet restrict and obsess over reps and do it to get girls. they're the not-depressed incels.

incels are brutalists who have some type of mental malaise (maybe it's depression) that stops them from improving themselves in the way that they need to in order to live up to their ideal self. sure, there can be a genetic component to it, but that's not really very important. there are two solutions for someone in this state- the incel can either go get some kind of psychiatric drug that helps them develop a self-improvement routine and re-evaluate the need for it later after they've attained their goal, or meditate on it and find something they enjoy doing that has depth to it and finding a partner through that.

>>11367736
>Spoken like someone who has never starved themselves at age 10.You just have no idea. At the age of 12 my friends were obsessing over tiny blemishes, pores, doing their makeup in such a way that they look flawless, never tired or sick, but without looking like there's too much bc that's slutty, dressing not too casually but not too sexy or else they'll get raped, obsessing over any tine fold of extra skin on their thighs, learning to act girly but not too girly or else they're bimbos, and posting edgy shit to tumblr about how no one cares about you unless you're pretty or dying.

As a veteran oldfag I have to say this is the most disturbing and disheartening thing about so-called "adult" culture; in fact it is a collection of malignant neuroses which includes the urge to indoctrinate children. All the more treacherous is that this system inflicts amnesia on "well-adjusted" graduates of this system of socialization. The people whom are considered rejects are thrown away after they've been adjusted.

>>11367655
is it weird that i feel attracted to you because I'm imagining some angry little slut overeating, and only wants some good old hate fuck?

>>11367766
tits and timestamp and I will explain to you why you're being overdramatic as you always do.

>>11367934

This is what I mean, the blackpill will never be taken seriously because it primarily attracts edgy retards like this. Some fucking scientific discussion this turned out to be when any attempt at actually dissecting the rigour/logic of these studies just degenerates into "haha women r dumb n feminists r fat!!" like it's a 2012 funnyjunk rage comic comment section.

It's just like the lobotimised bluepillers who reeee about misogyny if you even try to acknowledge that women are disproportionately the ones who care about how successful their partner is, even though this concept is actually a key idea behind Marxist feminism.

Is the blackpill scientific? You'll never find out OP. It'll forever just be a battleground for children who have substituted their political affiliation for their identity to get into superficial slapfights about who's cooler on the internet.

>>11367978
we aren't attracted to dark triad shit, it's just that we don't give a shit. if you're a 8/10 and a cunt or a 8/10 and a sweetheart on average it doesn't matter. if you're a sweetheart and a total submissive whore in bed than that's a bonus, if you're boring you're gay. same with the cunt. so basically what I'm saying is I don't fucking care.

dudes are pretty hypocritical in that most would fuck a different woman every day of their life if they could. I basically would. I can never get beyond ~3 months/10 fucks without being bored to tears

The only grevience men have is they have lost the power struggle, and it only works well when it's close to 50/50. I assure you if men had 90% of the power in this it would be worse. When society breaks down one of the most sure things to happen is massive rape sprees

>>11368034
How about this: I got romantically rejected by a guy who desparately wanted to fuck me for a girl that we both think is way uglier than me. I'm sort of a boring autist and she's an overdramatic emotional feminine mystique soft grunge girl. He basically friendzoned me for being too boring. He described me as rational and level-headed. Hearing that as a girl, that's when you know a man basically sees you as another male.

I've also gotten turned down a guy who is literally ugly (and is aware of this) and complains to me all the time that he's so desparate that he'd date anyone. He dated said D-cup tumblr girl though.

I know a lot of guys are low-confience simps that will fall for any girl who pays attention to them, but my point is that bitchy girls are like the female equivalent of bad boys. Guys are lowkey into it because narcissism is hot, but they lie about it due to cognitive dissonance.

Guys literally find it cute/sexy when their gf's throw bitchfits and demand to be pampered. Girls who aren't like this are considered boring. My guy friend even admitted he wouldn't date a girl who's too logical.

>Guys literally find it cute/sexy when their gf's throw bitchfits and demand to be pampered.


this is some femcel shit right here. men want to feel relied on, it gives them value. there are plenty of women who know how to do that without being insufferable cunts

>>11368085
Right now I feel exactly how incels feel when women say they just want a nice guy. At least women have the self-awareness to admit they like bad boys.

>>11368117
there were grains of truth to what you said but you're all over the map in drawing the conclusions from correct way off to everything in between that would take 10 blog posts to properly address that I'm way too drunk for.

i literally had this very choice ~9months ago and took the cunt over the sweetheart but the attractiveness was similar and if the cunt was ugly I wouldn't have pissed on her if she was alive.

I don't view any women in some lens as another guy, that part couldn't be further from the truth. I've had exactly one relationship with a women that was anything beyond some act of trying to fuck her because I thought she was attractive that I enjoyed and wasn't some forced thing(like being co-workers for example) and even that one she was attractive and I might even be lying to myself on that one too desu

>>11367766
Fat tits, skinny tits, big tits or small
Funny tits, ugly tits, one tit or more
Fake tits, others tits, we basically take them all.
You know its just a bunch of meme tier pseuds here. Everyone thinks you are LARPing.

>>11368166
If I were a man, what would I gain by LARPing as a centrist woman with nuanced objections to the blackpill while overall agreeing with the sentiment? Clearly it's just pissing of coomers who reflexively feel the need to degrade women that are smarter than them.

>>11365879
>incel.wiki
My fucking sides. Someone actually sat down and made all this. Wow... lmao

>>11367783
>I bet you can find research to construct any narrative you want


This is also true. Did you guys know that lolcow has pinkpill threads linking a bunch of studies basically claiming the exact gender flip of the blackpill? I find some of this hard to believe, but some of it such as men being turned off by intelligent women is definitely true.

>>11367534
This doesn't represent IRL. But since incels stay inside all the time and would rather LDAR this is perfectly valid as long as they don't leave the house. 80/20.
>>11367633
I really enjoyed this post. Women try to impress a certain guy, not just any guy right? Do you all try to copy what Chad's ex girlfriend was or do you build the perfect guy and dress for him? Be real, you're only nice because you're physically weaker and are afraid of us. You don't care about our feelings. I get it. You don't wanna be killed by the angry incel or raped.
A lack of emotional intelligence is apparently common. How long do those guys stay with these women? I read another post of yours where one guy stopped. That's my point. They didn't end on the crazy girls.
>>11367655
I loved this post too. In sorry but I think the best way to describe it is that men and women are not and will never be equal. Women are holes and men are poles. You equate everything but fail to realize that the way men and women are judged by different metrics. That is your fundamental error. It is not for society to change. When men bear children it will change.
>>11367842
That's why cross dressing library readings are a thing. Not sure what you meant by adjusted.
>>11368058
Those guys are lying to you, you're simply not attractive.
I'm so good at diagnosing these issues I'll tell you straight up what your problem is.
You're black.
That's why nobody picked you. That's why you are so angry. That's why black women act the way they do, saying they don't need a man or they're happy the way they are. You're an intelligent creature. Guys can lie too and you fell for it despite being too logical.
We're doing you a favor. You yourself know that you aren't going to have a long time to attract guys. You know that female attraction falls off a cliff. Get a weirdo on OKC who will love you. They're weird and unattractive so you actually have a lot of time.

>>11365879
>A study by Lefkowitz, Weschechelom and Leavitt (2018) consisting of a self report survey of sexual behavior among first year university students found thatcompared to their peers who had kissed partners, young adults who had never kissed were more likely to be Asian-American, less likely to be in a romantic relationship, were less extroverted, were more likely to be in the Honors College, and drank alcohol less frequently.
Lmao they literally just described me. Thanks for confirming that trying to find a gf is a statistical waste of time.

>>11368199
Wtff lmao.
I'm white, and I have a boyfriend. I have no problem finding guys, those were just some examples to illustrate my point.

>Lying to me
That's my point. Men sperg out about how women are in on some grand conspiracy to indoctrinate people with bluepill lies just because we pretend to be nice, but they themselves lie about their preferences just as they accuse us of doing.

My ugly friend is obviously lying about how he would date anyone, since he turned me down. He just wants hot tumblr cosplay girls with huge boobs and daddy issues.


I know my other friend isn't lying about being attracted to me because he constantly begs me for sex and nudes and damn-near creams his pants when I oblige with nudes or video call him. I know I'm exactly his type, and that the girl he likes isn't. He was pretty confused about why he liked her so much even though she's not hot.

I'm not a retard, I can tell when men are lying. I could tell he was lying about his reasons for rejecting me. He made up some bs reasons but I know it's because he thinks I'm boring and craves some exciting manic pixie dream girl.

Your post is a mess of condescending self-smug assumptions which are completely incorrect. Men really think they're incapable of ever being wrong, and that they always know better than us silly women. We can admit that we lie about not caring about looks and like bad boys. But men can never admit to having illogical preferences, because they have to maintain the illusion that they're supremely rational beings unlike us irrational women.

It's not my problem that you guys consistently chase stacies that treat you like shit.

>>11368199
Forgot to add, he didn't end up with the crazy girl because she dumped him after cheating on him multiple times. But he was okay with that because she is hot. He won't date a girl that makes too much sense though.


I have no idea what you mean with the chad ex gf gibberish. These are three different guys I'm talking about, one of which is literally ugly and struggles to get attention from girls at all. I'm one of two girls who has ever asked him out.

Like literally every word of this post is wrong, it's astounding.

>>11365879
>Another incel thread

As bad as the /pol/tards. Probably a lot of overlap.

Spiced and hidden.

>>11368273
Then you literally have no leg to stand on. You were complaining that you were being passed over, and now you have a boyfriend and no problem finding guys, yet your own cherry picking anecdotal evidence is the reason why you come to such conclusions. If you had presented the whole story about how some men didn't like you and others did it would ruin the narrative.
>>11368280
I asked who you dressed up for. Who did you starve for? A real person or what you imagined men to want?
He doesn't want a manic pixie girl. He wants a hot girl like every other guy. Your own cognitive dissonance is why your examples have no meaning, my conclusions about you were wrong because your own conclusions about men are clearly wrong and I miscalculated. He didn't pass a logical 120lb C cup girl with a beautiful face for a girl of equal attractiveness but known for cheating. She was objectively hotter, unless you want to retract and say that personality matters, which again nullifies your point.

>>11368387
>objectively hotter
Retard

>>11368176
Third post. Still no tits. I don't know what a shriveling piss ant apologist of a man such as yourself hopes to gain by this LARP. It isn't my concern. I just know what I see. This is the only remaining option and must be so. Good day and sage.

>>11365879
After looking through it for a bit, it seems to me that they have a pretty strong case. The research seems to be solid.
However, I still disagree with the conclusion drawn from this. Sure, attractiveness gives you a large advantage in a lot of situations. But that does not mean that other factors don't come into play and cannot be a redeeming factor. If you're an incel and you buy into this line of reasoning (average results=absolute truth), you will eventually stop trying altogether. It's a very defeatist ideology and I believe it does more harm than good.

I used to be an incel myself, until I turned 20. From that (and my relatively good social skills and high intelligence) I can safely conclude that I am not one of the best looking guys out there. However, between the ages 19 and 20 my personality changed a lot, I became more confident and secure and learned how to talk more persuasively. When I finally got laid (the chick was way out of my league too), I asked her why she chose me over other people in our common circle and she said she kinda saw a "leader" in me.

TL;DR
>don't buy into defeatism, don't confuse averages with absolutes, work towards being the exception from the rule

>>11368387
My friends were doing the dressing up and starving. I'm too autist to care. Learn to read.

You are confusing three different guys, and thus the rest of your post is gibberish nonesense. Again, learn to read.

I don't know how to make the situation any more clearer to you, I'm sorry. I've rephrased it 3 times like mommy explaining a picture book to a toddler and yet you apparently still cannot understand. There is nothing more I can do for you.


Facts: My friend voluntarily dated a Stacy that treated him like shit, cheated on him, and dumped him.
Fact: another friend of mine knew this and went for the same girl. He claims he's so desperate he'll date anyone but he turned me down.

Fact: another guy who desparately wants to fuck me still romantically turned me down for a manic pixie dream girl. So it should be fairly fucking obvious that it's not a just matter of being hot.

Fact: Men want stacies that treat them like shit, but they lie about it.

Fact: men are shallow and picky about looks just like women are, but they lie about it and blame us.


Fact: you are a fucking retard who cannot read and resorts to deliberately ignoring the points of my posts that are inconvenient to you. You literally have to IGNORE what I'm saying and pretend I'm saying something else because you just CAN'T ADMIT that men are just as much into narcissism as women are. Men have too much of a complex about always being right.


Fucking die mad about it. I hope Stacy cheats on you with every guy in the city and you cry yourself to sleep about it every night.

>>11368921
This is a sfw board you illiterate xoomer retard. Go get tit pics from a girl that actually loves you.

>>11367736
>i have to starve myself not to get fat
Are you mentally retarded? A completely inactive 120 pound woman needs a daily intake of 1,560 calories to maintain weight.

>>11368387
Cont bc I only read the bottom of your post first

I'm not claiming to be femcel. My narrative is just that men are just as likely to be attracted to narcissistic women especially when good looks are involved. You know, the exact same thing that men lose their goddamn minds about when women do it.

If you had basic reading comprehension, you would be able to understand this. Unfortunately it seems you have replaced each one of your brain cells with a smug guy sucking himself off so loud you can't focus long enough on the text in front of you to understand what it says.

You think you're winning some game of logic here with your "you ruined your own narrative/cognitive dissonance" epic checkmates.you fucking retard, why would I admit that I have a bf if I was trying to claim that I'm a femcel? You didn't outsmart me, you're just so dumb you can't even keep up with what this conversation is about.

Looks matter to guys more than personality, guys aren't turned off by narcissism, and in many cases they prefer it over a hotter girl who is nice. Just like women.

I hope your coomer pea brain doesn't implode trying to understand this time.

>>11369110
this

>>11369291
No, I need 1200 to maintain and I'm still kinda chubby looking. I'm less than 120.

The point you should be taking away from this is that this is how afraid little girls are of getting fat. Remember, they were kids at this time so of course their approach to staying skinny was dumb.
They KNEW that they're not attractive or worthwhile to men unless they're skinny and hot, already at that age. Meanwhile grown men make it to their 30s thinking that they're entitled to a woman loving them unconditionally no matter how ugly they are and then when they figure out that that's not how it works they start blaming women for "lying" to them. This is why including these stats about how women care about looks in a blackpill wiki just makes all blackpillers look like autistic retarded manchildren who need to be spoon-fed reality because they're too dense to figure it out themselves.

The actual blackpill we should be talking about is how disproportionately women care about money, status, success, intelligence etc whereas guys just want Stacy.

Sperging about how women actually factor looks into mating and won't just fuck any deformed inbred Goonies looking slob is obvious and adds nothing to the conversation.

Also this was before all the fat acceptance shit, so it wasn't just "not being fat" but rather being literally underweight and as small as possible that was desired. Being average weight or eating at all was considered unladylike. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. I admit that this is probably different in this new generation, but with the concurrent rise in instathots, I don't know where it's going.

>>11368283
Yeah this whole board is pol shit now, I literally have to go to reddit for any actual science beyond just this psueodoscience evo psych nonesense reeing about women and IQ and the blacks and the Jews creating coronavirus or whatever.

Was it always this bad?

>>11369346
Yes it was.

>>11369346
>Was it always this bad?
It wasn't. Only got bad when /pol/ exploded

>11365879
>incels.wiki
>scientifically valid
Not even worth a (you).

>>11369293

Fact: 3 guys make up your entire narrative.

Fact: You can't admit why you wasn't picked, you were uglier. Again either personality matters (lol) or he chose the hotter one. You, like all women aren't logical. Wanting to fuck you doesn't mean he wouldn't fuck anything or that he would date you. I might as well be arguing with the ghost of Andrea Dworkin. This guy said it.
>>11368034 Your ego is probably bruised from cognitive dissonance of why he chose the hotter girl with the worst personality, the idea that personality matters is laughable, as if your friend wouldn't date a 9/10 logical girl, he said it to spare your own non logic feelings but you were too stupid to see it.

Fact: Your cherry picked points are worthless, as you have "no problem getting guys" and you made it seem like those 3 guys were your only options. You made an analysis off 3 guys for the whole male population, and I only replied because you seemed intelligent. Keyword is seemed.

>>11365879
Yes.

>>11367633
>we're
Fuck off before I stomp you, roast beef.

>>11367655
>also remember this entire site losing their minds because some cute girl got locked up for murder.
Its was because she was hot, roastie.

>>11367701
No way you're not a tranny.

>>11367729
>Idk
Typical women.

>>11367736
>Welcome to the reality that women have been facing since the beginning of fucking time.
Most me die in war while women whine about makeup?
Off yourself before I gas you my self.

>>11367736
You didn't want to upset them because didn't want a scene or something to happen from him. Dont act like it was out of kindness.
>>11369291
You're a fucking retard who never used one. That calculators don't take into account height. Just try the calc on fit. 5'4 person to maintain weight needs 43-87 or so calories vs being 6ft to maintain weight. JFL at those calculators. Useless.
>>11369315
I actually am girl height about 5'6 I think I eat the same as my sister who is a little shorter than me. Surprisingly she is obese and I am thin. Fat acceptance was always a thing, chubby girls with cute faces got boyfriends, I grew up in the 90s, you never heard missy elliot? The problem of today is polarization. Fat acceptance is for the obese, healthy at every size and other nonsense that nobody without a fat or feeding fetish likes, and biologically unattractive. I always had a thing for chubby girls, I usually watched either petite teen porn or chubby girls, and I dated both. Claims of you cherry picking are true. I don't know where you got the idea of 30 year old losers being entitled. What behaviors prove your point? Mine shows the opposite. old.reddit.com/r/FA30plus

>>11367633
Incels btfo again

>>11367655
Actual good well written post.

>>11367751
Very freethinking protagonist-like post. You should go back to pol

>>11369543
Seething manlet.

>>11369315
Kek are you fucking delusional? Fat women get boned constantly by men way out of their league. Admittedly they usually never see those men again but they have no issue feeling "wanted" for a night. Fat ass men are the absolute dregs of society no woman is going to touch them with a ten foot pole.

>>11370557
Half my exes were obese as hell. Some of us don't mind fat women. But you've completely missed the point of my post. If all you took away from it was somehow that I think fat women don't get laid, you probably lack too many brain cells for this conversation to matter. The point was how young an age girls become aware that only looks matter vs guys who grow into their 30s believing that they're entitled to someone loving them for who they are. Reread my post with that in mind and try responding again in a less retarded manner.

>>11370717
>>11370557
Fuck I meant some of us don't mind obese men. * I guess the LARP accusations will sperg out now but whatever.

>>11370557
Half my exes were obese as hell. Some of us don't mind fat men. It's not as bad as you're making it out, but they definitely have it much worse than fat women,who have a whole fetish based on them.

But you've completely missed the point of my post. If all you took away from it was somehow that I think fat women don't get laid, you probably lack too many brain cells for this conversation to matter. The point was how young an age girls become aware that only looks matter vs guys who grow into their 30s believing that they're entitled to someone loving them for who they are. Reread my post with that in mind and try responding again in a less retarded manner.

>>11369543
>You didn't want to upset them because didn't want a scene or something to happen from him. Dont act like it was out of kindness.


Are you literally fucking incapable of reading even a single sentence correctly without twisting it into a completely made up scenario in your delusional mind?
I am talking about women as a group COLLECTIVELY coddling men's feelings by perpetuating the lie that only being a good person matters. We do this because we're socialized to always be nice and not upset men. Meanwhile, men have no problem telling us we're worthless if we're not hot.

Also if your default assumption is that we can't turn down men because they'll try to kill us, what does this tell you about how sociopathic men are?

Your responses are always so completely unrelated to anything I'm saying but you somehow always phrase your asinine delusions as some scathing intelligent take.

Like wtf is wrong with your reading comprehension? Are you a third-worlder? Do you have a learning disability?

Re: calories, the calculator does take height into account. That's why I need so little to maintain, because I'm basically a dwarf. It's also why I look chubby despite being 110 lbs.

I know that fat girls get laid but that wasn't my point. Read>>11370723
The entitlement thing is all the men acting shocked and betrayed because women have been "lying to them" that we don't care about looks at all. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should be able to figure this out.

I don't think incels or blackpillers are entitled losers, only the ones who are shocked that women have eyeballs. The fact that women care about looks does not belong on an incel wiki.

>>11369543
Sorry for double posting, but this question just occurred to me: if you eat the same as your sister and she's fat and you're thin, wouldn't that mean that staying thin isn't a matter of just eating 1500 cal a day? I don't get what you meant by this. Am I missing something?

>>11369522
Yes, that is my point. How low IQ are you?
I even said word for word it's because she was cute,but congrats on figuring that out all by yourself. You do realise that the criminal who got love letters that the incel wiki is bitching and moaning about is also hot right? It's almost like I'm pointing out that men do the exact same thing unapologetically that they bitch about women doing.
Your response? "Well it makes sense when men do it you stupid woman, but you're not allowed to!!"

Just admit you never got over Stacy rejecting you in high school and now you're mad at all women for having standards. You're the kind of low IQ coomer /b/tard edgelord that people picture when they say incels all whiney butt hurt school shooters who hate women. Shut the fuck up and let the incels who actually understand blackpill do the talking.

>>11369471
>Your cherry picked points are worthless, as you have "no problem getting guys" and you made it seem like those 3 guys were your only options. You made an analysis off 3 guys for the whole male population
> You can't admit why you wasn't picked, you were uglier

None of this is true, these are your delusions. Also lmao accusing me of "generalising" when your entire post is a generalisation that women are illogical and men are all supremely rational beings even though they literally are too retarded to stop themselves from being used and abused by Stacy after Stacy.

>Your ego is probably bruised from cognitive dissonance of why he chose the hotter girl with the worst personality

This is literally a description of the entire incel movement. The girl wasn't hot by his standards, you can drop this delusion or keep clinging on to it like the fragile retard you are but it will never be correct.

>Wanting to fuck you doesn't mean he ... would date you
Yes, that's my point retard.

>Again either personality matters or he chose the hotter one.
Somehow, in the space of one sentence, your chimp brain has forgotten that we are talking about multiple different people. Incels argue that women care about looks and also are into narcissistic guys. Is that hard for you to comprehend? So why is it so hard when I make this same claim about men?


Lol wow you literally can't read. Keep jerking your tiny cock over your 50IQ thinking you're smart because you have a penis.

Fact: Men are literal drooling retards. Not a single person in this entire thread has exhibited above first grade reading ability.

I started off being pretty sympathetic to the blackpill but now I realise why my wiser sisters hate you breaindead scrotes and your delusional god complexes.

Keep telling yourself that men don't secretly get off on being bossed around by stacy, I bet this delusion will serve you well in your third marriage while your bitch wife cheats on you and bleeds your money dry