/sci/ - Science & Math

This is going to seriously trigger some people.

How is this news? People have been saying that the neaderthal admixed population split and some migrated back into africa for a while now.

>blacks are descended from ancient europeans rather than the other way around

THE NEANDERCHAD
THE VIRGIN SAPIENS

>>11348493

> The DNA Hoax
https://femto.pw/2m84.webm

> You are 99,7% Neanderthal (Neandertal)
https://femto.pw/jkxe.webm

> Revolutionary News about Neanderthals!?
https://femto.pw/xgyx.webm

> Neanderthal Diet (What did our Forebears eat?)
https://femto.pw/iatw.webm

> The Truth about Cro Magnon
https://femto.pw/xr6m.webm

>>11348493
So, are Niggers part of the cavemen masterrace or not?

>>11348493
Whoops, gotta backtrack. The "everyone but woke Africans are cavemen" tack had the opposite effect of just obviously proving Africans are different from everyone else. Actually they're the same...*nervous laughter*

>>11348670
>living in a cave
>master race

>>11348686
Whites are obviously not the same, but are different from everyone else.

>>11348493
It seems once again, that many distinct waves of our species has been leaving Africa for a very long time, well before the common ancestors of all humans outside of Africa existed.

>>11348666
Neanderthals were still alive ~century ago.

>>11348493
>neanderthals classified as a separate species
>still able to breed successfully and produce fertile offspring with other species of human
What's the scientific reason why different races aren't divided into species then?

>>11348695
caves are comfy

>>11348867
There isn’t one, and if humans were animals we would classify the different races as sub species at the least. White people in particular are something entirely different, they crossed some evolutionary threshold, alone, that allowed them to create the modern world. I mean it’s wierd that people like to think we are all “humans” because we all live in this global modernized society. But only 1 group create pretty much all of it. The others are just smart enough to make use of it in varying degrees. It would be like if an alien civilization far advanced came here and lived among us and shared their tech with us. We even manage to make shitty copies of some of it. This would not make us their intellectual equal. And it doesn’t make us the same species as the aliens. Maybe one day we would have been able to create their tech on our own, or maybe not. The only ones we can be sure is capable of it is the aliens. Such is the case with white people and everyone else. Cue all the people that will cite one of the .01 percent of all inventions that came from someone besides a wire person. Whites are far outnumbered globally , it would be strange if no one else stumbled on any discoveries purely by accident with those kind of numbers. You will also notice how many of the “inventors” of other races are part white, or worked closely with white folks. Curious.

>new
OP living in the nineties

>>11348867
Did you know that brown bears are part extinct cave bear and part polar bear? Just a few percent, but it's there. Bears interbreed. Is there only one species of bear, then?

>>11348666
Wow. This is some fucking pseudoscience right there. Does this dude actually think he looks like a Neanderthal?

>>11349150
This but desu the whites keep stealing shit from Polish people, you white niggers need to stop stealing polish genius just to uplift your fucking garbage subspecies, atleast the chinese are honest about white niggers go out of their way to claim to be true descendants of Rome while the polish still continue to fight the hunnic hoards.

>>11348666
ok this epic, africans btfo

how is it even neanderthal when all humans have it

>>11349234
It originated in the neanderthals.

>>11349251
how do they know that if its not even neander specific

>>11349150

>and if humans were animals we would classify the different races as sub species at the least

They wouldn't though because the significant difference between humans and other animals is that humans actively chose to migrate to different regions, actively chose to fuck each and actively chose to learn each other's languages and behavior patterns. The vast majority of other animals don't do any of this period which is why humans seem like freakazoids in comparison thus justifying the extra categorization. As a matter of fact the only other comparison to human species and it's "races" I can think of would be the happy face spider from Hawaii.

And no dogs don't count because they were domesticated and artificially selected to be different. Meanwhile the happy face spider actually represents a small microcosm of human migratory behavior, polymorphic differences and mating habits. All independent of human intervention.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/happyface_03

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/happyface_07

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evo101/VADefiningSpecies.shtml

>>11348493
If you squint while looking at the thumbnail it looks like a really weird set of cock and balls

>>11348867
It's because Neanderthals separated from Homo sapiens 800,000 years ago. The genetic distance between Africans and Eurasians is around 70,000 years old.

>>11348493
>However, researchers from Princeton University now believe, based on a new computational method, that Africans do in fact have Neanderthal DNA and that very early human history was more complex than many might think.

This is why niggers 100% have breed with chimps. This idea that modern genetics and dna analysis is so good that they would be able to detect it by now with certainty is false. But from a logical standpoint we know that it must be true.
Niggers once again btfo.

>>11349381
This entire belief system of yours is total bullshit. Many subspecies and even species are further apart genetically than minor ethnic differences in humans. This is an entirely political issue and has fucking nothing whatsoever to do with science.

>>11349464
I said that backwards. I meant many subspecies and even species of other animals are LESS genetically distinct than the differences between humans.

>>11349464

>Provide evidence that humans would still be classified into different races if viewed from a third party
>n..no...t..that's bullshit...y..your bullshit!

Pathetic, stay mad smoothbrain.

>>11349485
This is basic shit, you fucking moron. People are splitting species into complexes based on a fish living on a slightly different island but looking identical to a "species" 100 miles away and differs by a single haplotype. If you did this shit with humans there would be like 400 species of humans.

I guess 23andme better start giving refunds to all their black customers who received false results.

>>11349430
You aren't very intelligent, are you? That unnamed archaic species last shared a common ancestor with Homo sapiens 700,000 years ago, mean it's more related to us than we are to Neanderthals.

>>11349699
This is absolutely false. Archaic means at the base of the genus Homo. It would be something like H. habilis or H. ergaster - millions of years old (at its origin), not thousands. It would simply have DNA that survived into modern times.

>Seemingly interesting discovery
>Thread full of people with lack of reading comprehension and obsession with racial identity

Wow! Incredible!

>>11349566

Except the issue here is not the same retard. You have multiple populations of spiders on four different islands that polymorphically look different to each other yet still mate with each other on their own volition. Thus forming a species with mosaic form similar to that of humans.

Your fish looking identical to another fish 100 miles away isn't actively trying mate with the other one. These spiders who don't look identical are, which is why despite having so much distance between each other and many years to differentiate from one another they still maintain a single species categorization genetically. Thus showing evidence that such classification for humans in terms of "racial" instead of "sub-species" categorization would be applied by a third party.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Colonization-history-and-population-genetics-of-the-Croucher-Oxford/cf2ff29a0ef485d3e7812ef4f6ffc6da125f76e9

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eva.12302

>>11349391
no it doesn't, keep your faggotry in check

>>11349783
You're right. It's not the same because humans are more diverse as "one species" than multiple species in the same genus are in other animals.

Politics. Not science.

>>11349783
Oh and if your low-IQ claim is that "well different species can't breed", that's retard middle school tier understanding of the species concept because species from different genera breed and produce fertile offspring all the fucking time. And most humans aren't mating with someone 100 miles away, what the fuck are you even talking about.

>>11349722
No it doesn't anon. Archaic means ancient, in general. Neanderthals are archaic humans, there was a subdivision of our own species called "Archaic Homo sapiens" with those same American football shaped heads Neanderthals had, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_humans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans

Homo ergaster and Homo habilis were both extinct by the time our species evolved. The furthest you can go is Homo naledi, but for all we know, they died out well before the ancestors of modern Africans met them.

>>11349855

>Oh and if your low-IQ claim is that "well different species can't breed", that's retard middle school tier understanding of the species concept because species from different genera breed and produce fertile offspring all the fucking time.

Sorry anon but you're the one with low IQ. I already highlighted such a fact before you brought it up on >>11349381 post

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evo101/VADefiningSpecies.shtml

I know you're slow on the uptake but learn to keep up.

>And most humans aren't mating with someone 100 miles away, what the fuck are you even talking about.

Doesn't need to be most humans. It just needs to be a consistent fraction of humans from different regions mating with each for thousands of years. And those offspring of those mated humans returning back to their ancestral populations to spread said genes aka "backflow".

>>11349922
Not him, but this sounds like the reason why Africans aren't multiple different species now, going back to a recent theory.

https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/fulltext/S0169-5347(18)30117-4?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0169534718301174%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/dna-child-burials-reveals-profoundly-different-human-landscape-ancient-africa

https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/MAGAZINE-humans-began-to-evolve-half-a-million-years-ago-all-over-africa-1.6264916?v=DEFA0AF596057A9E2D8C5F7E484C70D7

>>11349699
Cope all you want. The fact remains that the best scientists still disagree on how to measure these things.
https://www.nature.com/news/2009/090828/full/news.2009.870.html
"Human-chimp interbreeding challenged

Mutation rates may be explained by differences in female promiscuity."

So the data shows that human and chimps continually interbred for a long time after they diverged. Research done by a jewish harvard geneticist David Reich. This article then tries to challenge that by arguing a difference in mutation rates. Which by the way, makes your idea of 700,000 years of seperation useless, since time is not an accurate measure, only the levels of mutations.
Anyway, the conclusion of the article.

"Yi concedes that she can't definitively invalidate Reich's model. "Proof is very hard to come by in evolution biology, unfortunately," she says. "

Now we have OP's article, that magically finds neanderthal dna by doing some "new computational model" that niggers have neanderthal dna in them.

The fact remains, congo niggers can't swim because of their heavy bones they inherited from fucking with chimps.

>>11349204
Yes

I think I saw Richard "Ed" Green and some Slavic woman criticizing these methods in some UCSC video. Can't find it.

us BLACK men dont have no fucking caveman DNA
how dare you make that assertion

>>11350170
Shut up cracker

>>11350000
>So the data shows that human and chimps continually interbred for a long time after they diverged.

No, the data shows that the ANCESTORS of humans and chimps continually interbred for a long time, unless your definition of human includes animals like Sahelanthropus. This doesn't mean that Africans literally have chimpanzee genes anon.

>>11349566
>fish living on islands

Why is this called research when people are just interpreting a cladistics program?

>>11349150
If you were an animal I would classify your species as Homo Stultus alright.

>>11350488
>No, the data shows that the ANCESTORS of humans and chimps continually interbred for a long time
Unless you go with the article I linked, then it's just because of abnormal mutations, whatever that means, as if mutations can't speed up or slow down depending on the environment or random chance. Which means their method of dating is flawed. It's not as good as carbon dating and they are really just guessing. They can't tell if a nigger has a chimp ancestor 20 or 100 generations back. But we know for a fact that they do, given human nature to fuck anything and given the time niggers and chimps have been in contact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43xTvpxWLW4&t=1470s

A white man travels the Congo river into the heart of Africa. He describes fisherniggers and how they fish. From 24:45
White Narrator: "Their brought up from little kids to do this, and they do it very skillfully"
We then see niggers with white mud going ooga booga.
White narrator: "Every young boy has to go through the ritual of learning to swim. Of understanding the twists and turns of the current."
Niggers with white mud goes ooga booga to a niglet with white mud as they stand at the bank of the river. Then they throw him in the river.
White narrator: "It's his first plunge, into a tough life on the river."
We then see the little niglet jumping up and down on the river floor, his heavy apebones making him incapable of floating or even attempting anything that resembles swimming.
White narrator: "It was...touch and go...but eventually, he made it to safety.

Niggers have probably been fishing for at least 50.000 years in the Congo, passing on their skills from one generation to the next. It's not that they're too dumb to swim, if they didn't have chimpbones they would float. Like all other mammals except for the great apes.

>>11348493
OUT OF NEANDERTHAL

>>11348493
>based on a new computational method
So it's not based on any REAL evidence? Wow, science fuck yeah!

>>11350947
Of course it's based on evidence. It's an iterative process
1. develop model
2. feed evidence
3. check results
4. if results fit, you're done, otherwise go to 1.

>>11348493
You can walk through Africa south to north in a year. To think that hominid populations didn't migrate through landmasses back and forth throughout millenia is fucking retarded.

>>11350813
There is some tribal West African creation stories of their history and they talked about living near wild hairy men that would hang out in trees a mixture of ape and human that they would fuck these half human apes.
The Sahara was a jungle around 10k years go so they might migrated in with blacks to the changing landscape. I mean they found they mixed with abos to at some point.

>>11351131
>There is some tribal West African creation stories
The absolute state of /sci/

>>11350540
The absolute state of "research" in the natural sciences.

>>11348707
Neanderthals didn't have a chin, a flat mouth area or a thin nose like he has. If you looked at his skull it would look like a typical homo sapien skull.

>>11348493
So they left Africa and interbreeded, but did they go back and share the genes or were those stuck on the continent left without? I mean 200,000 years ago if your lineage hasn't gone back they're likely not considered African anymore

>>11350988

Now take away all the tech. Even eskimos relied on canned foods and preservatives. You can’t hunt in 6 months of total darkness. How are you going to get oil for light. How do you start a fire in water?

The idea is it’s much easier today as terrains have been dynamited and flattened and there are less and less warlords.

>>11351131
West African creation:
>Humans already existed. There were some half monkey half men in the trees and we fucked. Now we are us.
Checks out

>>11351131
Well in the Congo they just fucked bonobos. Pic related. Link if you need that
http://jambo.africa.kyoto-u.ac.jp/kiroku/asm_normal/abstracts/pdf/30-4/30-4-3LingomoKimura.pdf

>>11351563
>So they left Africa and interbreeded, but did they go back and share the genes or were those stuck on the continent left without?
You probably have neanderthals and niggers living fairly seperated for a long time. Then niggers went into Europe at some point and mixed with neanderthals, then after some time those people then went back into Africa and spread some neanderthal genes. I doubt you would have had actual neanderthals going back into Africa since they seemed, from what we know, very adapted to a cold climate.

It's important not to put to much emphasis on these things when it relates to the current situation and the difference between the current human races. Whether or not niggers have some neanderthal genes like the australian aboriginals doesn't change their iq or behaviour.
Right now it seems to me that since people heard that africans didn't have neanderthal genes but everone else did that in general the viewpoint was that neanderthal genes must be part of the reason why europeans and asians are more evolved. That might be true, but it could also be wrong. Maybe the neanderthal genes play no important role. It's hard to say.

>>11348493
So are they excluding the khoi san

>>11349566
>This is basic shit
There it is. /pol/tards are so predictable. Call it basic science and you automatically win the argument.

of course they fucking have you retarded shit. neanderthals are ancestors of all humans but Africans were isolated from neanderthals for a longer time than Europeans because euronigs like primitive grug pussy

>>11349150
But most white didn't, only 0,001% of them were actual geniuses that created the technology that the rest of the subhuman white and non-white masses use without even understanding it.

>>11351305
>Owen Lovejoy, a famous evolutionary paleoanthropologist, studied 1,000 year old North American Indian bones and drew the following conclusion: ‘The Amerindian collection undoubtedly represents a population belonging to the species Homo sapiens, yet it includes many unusual bones that probably would have been assigned to a different species, or even a different genus, if they had been discovered as individual fossils…’7

>>11348536
It is news in that it is now publicly accepted,. Remember Neanderthals were first considered barely above an animal. So it was fine to tar Caucasians with Neanderthal genes but politically unacceptable to do the same with Africans.

Then Neanderthals were rehabilitated and their genes are now seen to have been beneficial. Suddenly it is bad to deny that also Africans have some Neanderthal genes.

>>11348502
Why?

>>11348867
Species is arbitrary and whether Neanderthals are a different species is still up for debate.

>>11352855
>many unusual bones that probably would have been assigned to a different species
The same would be said for anyone who performs intense repetitive tasks. Take for example the femurs of horsemen, and the shoulders of archers from Tudor Era England.

>>11349012
>Cope
Like pottery.

>>11348493
>Humans have neanderthal DNA
>Pic is man crouching playing with rocks
SEE, GROG TELL YOU GROG NO LIE! ROCK TELL GROG

>>11357242
go back

>>11357248
go back

>>11355175
It is not that long ago it was quite permissible to declare Neanderthals as sub humans.

>>11348493
ARE YOU SAYING THAT SAPIENS RAPE NEANDERTHAL WOMEN?
#CANCELHOMOSAPIENS

>we wuz neanderthals n shit
lmao @ pathetic white "people"