/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11320687
Why are vaccinated people so utterly terrified of unvaccinated people???

>>11320691
>why are peaceful people so terrified of violent people?

>>11320698
>why are settled people so afraid of mass immigration?

>>11320687
Reminder that Bigtree and these others are probably controlled opposition.

Reminder that vaccines are still poison.

>>11320708
Also, reminder that you can just pay actors to say whatever. Look at the use of language.

>>11320709
And I just want to say GREAT fucking acting. Academy Awards should be notified

>>11320691
Maybe because the disease immunity provided by most vaccines wanes over time???

drug manufacture and sale has been underregulated since the early 90s due to lobbying

Omission bias- The tendency to favor acts of omission over acts of commission.

Probability neglect- Fear overcomes ability to reason and weigh odds

I'd add another: the tendency for people to believe they are exceptions to the rule

>>11320716
Thats what a booster is for. Plus viruses are evolving

>>11320723
To be frank, people aren't any good at understanding or reasoning in terms of probabilities in any case

>>11320687
Children don't die of measles unless there are other problems. See data from the 1980's, something like 5,000,000 cases in the US per year, ~500 deaths. It was trivial childhood illness they had sleepovers for.

Also, that guy in Samoa? He was telling people to use vitamin A and vitamin C to treat measles infection. Yeah.

>>11320744
But all the congenitally unfit are accounted for in the statistic. Ergo, measles killed them chillun

>>11320744
>It was trivial childhood illness they had sleepovers for.

Dude I was alive in the 1980s and this wasn't a thing unless you were Amish.

Chicken pox was the sleepover thing I think. There wasn't an anti-vaxxer hysteria then either. Everybody had mmr shots and nobody gave 2 fucks.

>>11320760
And look at the state of your generation now. Nobody gave 2 fucks about anything.

Maybe it was the 60's, I don't recall. I have to go back through and get these stats and references all together.

>>11320716
And that's a good thing. We need more evolutionary pressure.

>>11320767
We need more clamp pressure. The slaves are getting a bit too powerful, too numerous. You know the Elohim dumbed us down and introduced measures to limit our population at least 3 times.

>>11320779
What were the first 3 times?

>>11320764
The question is only relevant to Gen Z down to babies. All the others got MMR.

If you were to take the past generations as a general guide, that would be a good comparison to find out what not to do. But not getting the MMR shot was not a negative.

>>11320744
>Children don't die of measles unless there are other problems.

The lack of immunity and general less robust host defense is the inherent problem for tiny humans. What killed these kiddos is very clear: lack of MMR vaccine.

>>11320691
I know huh.
>>11320716
But people don't know that.
>>11320698
How is this the same?

>>11320687
I want to know what the moneyed interests behind psychotic shit like the anti-vaxxer movement gain. The fucking stupid karens supporting this is not surprising. But the people at the top absolutely know they're full of shit. So the question is, what fucking horrible thing are they actually accomplishing by spreading this bullshit other than the obvious?

>>11320691
>Why would anyone care about the general population? Surely, it is only I who exists!
What a moron.

>>11321709
They get speaking fees and book fees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB5-Y08qbjo

>>11321722
I figured it was that. But I wonder if there isn't something even more sinister. Honestly, it probably isn't. They're probably just like all cult leaders like molymeme and are just trying to con retards out of money, regardless of how much damage it does to society.

>>11321724
Welp, if RFK said it, you know it's bullshit.

>>11321725
And see, it's the fact that high-level politicians like this are involved that actually makes me suspect something more sinister. Same thing with that pop culture bitch they had fronting the effort years ago who's irrelevant today.

>>11321724
The pictured quote ignores the fact that the infection and death rates for the disease would be much higher if kids weren't vaccinated. He presupposes that vaccination doesn't work to fit his own narrative that the diseases are safe.

>>11321730

>>11321730
He's fucking scum. This can't just be about selling books. There's some other shady bullshit going on.

>>11321725
Wakefield payed the kids at his son's birthday party 5 pounds to give him blood samples.

>>11321733
Now post the infection rates you hack.

>>11321742
It sucks that terrible things happen to children but that doesn't make their parents medical doctors.

>>11320708
Reminder, this is lying

>>11321741
my nigga

>>11321733
>vaccines don't help people that already have the disease
Well no shit sherlock.

>>11320691
Because measles should have disappeared a while ago and it doesn't

>>11321742
This is an obvious op. All these psycho cultists are members of fucked up groups that mass comment on this shit. They're all fucking lying and they know it.

>>11321741
You. They're right on the CDC's site.

Not even that poster. Literally, go get it for me. I don't feel like it.

>>11321767
3rd world mass immigration?

>>11321004
>How is this the same?
they break protection for individuals who are not immune and/or can't be vaccinated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
unvaccinated idiots are also petri dishes for the disease to mutate, thus undermining the protection of vaccinated people

you could have googled this in 20 seconds yslf

>>11321733

>>11321840
Don't know about other cases, but mexico has mandated vaccinations in schools (public and private) at a federal level. The measles cases in the U.S. comes from clear groups that don't vaccinate. Most are religious, I'll give you that, it still affects the rest. It's worse, plenty of cases of whooping cough in Mexico are believed to come from tourism from 1st world countries as there there is no vaccination control from these countries.

>>11321849
Actual image of you clamped and vaxxed

>>11321986

>>11321993
GLAMBED

>>11321775
OP as in foreign subversion?

>>11321760
Reminder, this isn't an argument.

>>11320691
Loss of herd immunity increases killers of those with certain kinds of genetic diseases, burn victims, and cancer patients.
And holy shit is it literally a rich white girl/mom thing primarily.

>>11321843
Disease strains can still live in vaccinated individuals and transmit to unvaccinated ones. Bullshit excuse and anti-/sci/. >>>/x/

>>11320691
Disease mutation in the unvaccinted population rendering existing vaccinations useless.
Basically I fear them for a similar reason I fear getting stuck by a junkies needle.

>>11322434
As opposed to disease mutation in the vaccinated population which is the one that actually ends up resistant?
>>>/x/

>>11322442
How does a disease spread though the vaccinated population to get the chance to mutate?
You are thinking of antibiotics which when overused can put undue evolutionary pressure on bacteria.

>>11322448
fuck bacteria tho

>>11322448
Because viruses live and mutate in vaccinated hosts asymptomatically, a very well-known effect in many vaccines, notably the sabin vaccine but also countless others.
Not to mention that most vaccines are extremely ineffective (think in the range of 30%-50% protection), while only the effectiveness of those like measles (99.99% with booster, but that's not a real number: it's a projection) are the only ones ever being reported properly (mumps is 80% at best, for example, and has well-known extreme side-effects).

>>11322472
>viruses live and mutate in vaccinated hosts asymptomatically
They live a significantly shorter time thanks to the immune system having encountered them before. I don't see how vaccines being far from perfect makes them worse than nothing, seatbelts aren't perfect and people stilll die in crashes but they are better than nothing at all.

>>11322496
>They live a significantly shorter time thanks to the immune system having encountered them before.
Uhuh, decades is such a short time. Totally worth it. Living in vaccinated hosts for which the vaccine was not effective (often the majority) is totally going to reduce their lifespan. Totally.
>>>/x/
Bunch of research has also shown that unvaccinated people have better immune response to random pathogens than vaccinated hosts, though the vaccinated obviously typically fare better against the shit they've been vaccinated for. The net result is that the guy who has no vaccine tends to fight off a pathogen the only vaccine for is 30% effective much better than the vaccinated.

>durr, durr, muh herd immunity
>hurr, we eradicated smallpox! By magically giving every single person in every corner of the world our vaccines!
Imagine being this retarded. Try eradicating common cold first.

>>11322515
Why target a disease with such a low mortality rate and no long term effects?

>>11322515
How about you eradicate deez nutz

>>11322423
>Disease strains can still live in vaccinated individuals and transmit to unvaccinated ones.
how does this damage either of his claims?

>>11322548
Because even if the entire population were vaccinated, it would still not prevent those that can't be from contracting diseases, even those the population has been vaccinated against.

>>11322518
>such a low mortality rate and no long term effects
Oh, you mean like measles?

>>11322518
>we can totally do it, haha! there's just no point, haha!
yeah sure, that's the reason. Not because of the fact that it's so common that anyone would be able to verify any claims made upon it.

>>11321775
nigga you stupid

>>11322550
healthy individuals, by definition, have almost no pathogens compared to sick ones, meaning that while your scenario is possible it's extremely unlikely compared to a plague rampaging through an unvaccinated population

>>11322576
Not sure if lobotomized drone or clinically retarded.jpg

>>11322577
nice argument fag

>>11321843
And what percent are we claiming herd immunity will exist at now?

>>11321850
>It's worse, plenty of cases of whooping cough in Mexico are believed to come from tourism from 1st world countries as there there is no vaccination control from these countries.
The whooping cough vaccine just makes you an asymptomatic carrier, it doesn't make you immune to it.

>>11322587
Isn't it fascinating how the vaxx cultists are so irredeemably uneducated about vaccines and how they (don't) work, though? Especially given how haughty they act about it and how they like to parrot bullshit 'arguments' in their favor. /x/-tier morons the lot of them and yet this is the standard in modern day society. Doesn't it beg the question of how the hell this could have come to this?

>>11320698
that's a /pol/-tier "argument" at best AND it's wrong, because the debate isn't centered on anybodies aggresive tendencies but % of population vaccinated and it's epidemological consequences

>>11320687
>it isnt just an internet meme
>they have literal meetings
top kek

>>11322520
Yes, that's what immunocastration is for. A late followup for your clamping and circumcision.

Look back at history. Eunuch guard, castrati... those who were subjugated often had their genitals destroyed. Well, I guess in the modern world we're coming back to where stupid does fix itself.

>>11322580
Clamped, vaccinated, circumcised.

>>11322684
>>11322689
Has the clampinator finally returned?

>>11322591
It certainly does raise that question.

>>11322715
can someone explain this clamped meme to me?

>>11323490
>Schizo spams threads about umbilical cord clamping
>Replies to posts with VACCINATED CLAMPED CIRCUMSISED
>Becomes a meme

>>11323543
Sounds really based tbqh.

>>11322565
>an anti-vaxxer is calling someone else stupid
That's like a dog calling someone else shit-breath.

>>11323562
Oh the irony. Keep on keeping on, little Timmy, you be you. One day maybe you'll even be able to pass middle school on your own!

>>11323566
If vaccines are bad, why do the majority suffer no side-effects, even by your own claims?

>>11323577
The majority does suffer major side-effects, just not lethal ones (that's reserved for important people, not you, cattle-kun).
Meanwhile not a single anti-anti-vaccine argument was successfully made in this thread without being instantly refuted by facts and *gasp* science.

>>11323622
>The majority does suffer major side-effects
No they don't. That's a flat lie.

>>11323622
>Meanwhile not a single anti-anti-vaccine argument was successfully made in this thread
Whooping cough. Literally the only good thing about the anti-vaxxer evil is that evil consumes itself and stupid karens are killing off future generations of karens.

>>11323577
Everyone given a vaccine was damaged. It's
a matter of degree. You likely don't realize this because you grew up surrounded by that very damage, as did I.

>>11320704
but that would make them bad goys (except of course immigration to Israel- thats out of the question)

>>11323708
Lmao butthurt
>>11323713
>The mortality rate is 0.5 per cent in infants under 6months.
>Among 1,185,927 infants born between July 2005 and September 2010, 1032 pertussis cases were identified.
(this study also notes that its recorded incidence rate is the highest the authors have seen, and it records events from birth up to 12 months of age).
So a 0.087% probability of contracting it, and if you do get it and are 6 months (older = lower) you die only 0.5% of the time. Another study says the global mortality rate is even lower, at 0.02% among children aged less than 12 months.
What about vaccine efficacy?
>Between Dec. 7, 2009, and Mar. 31, 2013, data on 5867 individuals (486 test-positive cases and 5381 test-negative controls) were available for analysis. Adjusted vaccine effectiveness was 80% (95% confidence interval [CI] 71% to 86%) at 15–364 days, 84% (95% CI 77% to 89%) at 1–3 years, 62% (95% CI 42% to 75%) at 4–7 years and 41% (95% CI 0% to 66%) at 8 or more years since last vaccination.

So all in all it does literally nothing, statistically speaking.
It appears that pertussis is mutating so these efficacy numbers are much higher than new numbers. In a recent outbreak in florida, investigators found the vaccine was only 45% effective.
Moreover, efficacy numbers are only for those who get all doses and it's believed to be significantly less for underdosed (i.e. younger, like less than 6 months old infants, i.e. the only ones at any real risk).

A metareview also says:
>severe adverse events of dTap vaccination
>The incidence of severe adverse events for dTap at 1-month and 6-month post-vaccination were 0.7% and 4.2%, respectively
Other studies say
>Sixty children experienced severe reactions
>Incidence rates of HHE vary widely, from 3.5 to 291 per 100,000 injections
The 3.5 to 291 is supposed to be added to get a total extreme effect rate. Still, higher than 0.29%. That's very high when nobody gets whooping cough and everyone gets vaccinated.

>>11323801
Your incidence rate calculation assumes that nobody vaccinates. Your math is woefully inadequate.

>>11323824
No, because I don't care about the NPCs. Thus, I care about the current affect rate and not the affect rate of a fully unvaccinated population. However, studies propose numbers from 8 to 11x higher for unvaccinated vs vaccinated populations, which is consistent with the purported effectiveness rate of before. If the new effectiveness rate is in fact close to 45%, it's close to 2x.
That's what I'm referring to when saying the vaccine statistically does nothing. Not to be confused with the idea that the vaccine has low effectiveness, rather, due to the actual effects of whooping cough and its incidence rate even in unvaccinated populations, the total welfare does not change much by application of the vaccine: you go from a pertussis fatality rate of 0.00044% (current stats with vaccinated populations and such) to 0.0035%, and that's assuming you use the 6-month mortality instead of the <12-month mortality, which is 25x less.
That is, if an unvaccinated kid in an unvaccinated global population dies of pertussis, it's practically time to buy lottery tickets.

>>11323577
If cigarettes are bad, why are the oldest living people so often smokers?

>>11323713
>Whooping cough
The thing where people who get the vaccine are more dangerous because they become unknowing carriers who think they're immune?

>>11323855
>>11323824
Going back to the topic, the implication was that vaccinated kids "often" die of whooping cough.
Clearly that claim has been debunked. Let's not even mention shit like >>11323863 which means your muh herd mental- immunity shit is bull.

>>11323863
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2627963/

>>11323562
take your meds schizo

>>11320691
>why are educated people concerned that society is full of dangerous idiots
gee I wonder why

>>11324645
The vaccinated are the dangerous ones. See >>11324298
But even if the above wasn't a thing, the fact that you overwhelmingly believe that vaccine = 100% immunity forever.

>>11320691
We don't want our kids to die because they are too young/allergic to vaccines to get them, just because some retard decided to ruin herd immunity after reading on GOOP that the influenza vaccine causes cervical cancer in boys.

>>11325023
Or maybe they read peer-reviewed papers on how vaccines actually work or not and made an informed decision. Meanwhile dangerous walking disease-people like yourself are walking around and infecting the immunocompromised because "you're vaccinated, that means you're safe!". That's what big brother MSM told you after all.
>>>/x/

>>11323713
ya thank god the amish went extinct long ago

>>11325023
>because they are too young
>hep b vaccine given at birth

>because some retard decided to ruin herd immunity
There never was herd immunity, especially for flu shots.

>>11325023
Most people who get the flu, got the flu shot. Prove me wrong.

>>11323543
i will never understand this behavior

>>11325316
>t. clamped

>>11325187
>hep B vaccine wears off at like age 8
Wow. Brain damage for something completely useless that can be better handled by maternal screening. Besides, if you're already infected through birth, what good is a vaccine?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27501128
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29751176
Read those. I think you already know why they do it.

>>11320687
5:11
every fucking time

>>11321767
Measles isn't even dangerous.
>In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.
You're more likely to die from the fucking flu than measles

>>11326025
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

>>11320687
Enough anons, antivaxxing is fine but you need big balls to endure the loss of 50-70% of your children.
Instead of acting like the popsciretards from youtube in an eternal loop you should help them find the most relevant vaccines like tetanus or pertussis v.

>>11326034
Pertussis is irrelevant, but tetanus is relevant.
Unvaccinated kids don't statistically die more than vaccinated ones.

>>11326059
Tetanus is irrelevant. I stepped on a rusty nail once, was actually worried about tetanus. To think I believed in all this bullshit once.

>>11326064
(Didn't get the vaccine by the way)

>>11326064
Mortality rate is about 2% which is pretty high, though I think that includes a lot of data coming from unattended cases (it's from a paper that notes that most cases reported come from south asia and africa).
Another study, that only considers the US, claims a mortality as high as 13.7%.
CDC says 0.10 per 1 million population overall gets tetanus in a year, 40% of which are unvaccinated, and 2x as many of which are spics. Moreover, they note that probably around 30% were needle users.
They also say
>however, when IDUs were excluded, the incidence was almost the same among Hispanics (0.08) compared with non-Hispanics (0.07) [per million]
That said, the only data I can find about the efficacy of the vaccine is that it's only 50% effective ~20 days after vaccination, which isn't stellar.
The above cdc report also says
>in the multivariable model, comparing age ≥65 years versus <65 years, diabetes versus no diabetes, and no doses of vaccination versus 1 dose, neither diabetes (odds ratio [OR] = 1.3; CI = 0.2--7.2) nor vaccination (OR = 3.1; CI = 0.7--15.1) were statistically significant
Conclusion: it seems true that the vaccine is bullshit.

>>11326092
>That said, the only data I can find about the efficacy of the vaccine is that it's only 50% effective ~20 days after vaccination, which isn't stellar.
To be fair, I've never heard anyone treat it as if it lasted more than a week.

>>11321843
Yeah, real me here. >>11322423
Did me proud. I still don't get. If I am vaccinated and shake hands with a sick person, then I flush a public toilet. What difference does it make for the next guy that I am immune?

>>11326313
You should wash your fucking hands.
The reason it matters is because viruses don't multiply on surfaces they need a host. So you can only spread a limited number of them very thin. But if you contract the disease you make new viruses.

>>11326332
Okay. So it makes no difference. Me and the rest of the world should wash hands and hopefully, there is no other biological material including wood or plastic with colonies of who knows what to act as temporary host and you did not answer my question. If you are immune, why would you care if I am not?
>>11320687
I didn't see much here besides people are stupid. When your kids get shots, you sign papers that explain that there ARE risks. Math says the risks double for every one you sign. Idk now about a lot of them but would rather my kid takes his chances with chicken pox. Seems to kill less people than vaccine snafus. Like some other hot topics, there is strong division and no rational middle. Everyone is just stupid. Profit is heavy on the winning team when it shouldn't be a game.

>>11326366
>If you are immune, why would you care if I am not?
Empathy, I don't want you to die needlessly, I also don't want children to die needlessly.

>>11326382
But it's already been shown it makes no difference. Did you get your brain vaccinated against thinking or something anon?

>>11326392
Are you saying that you being unvaccinated doesn't make you more susceptible to the disease?

>>11326394
Vaccinating, in many cases, doesn't make you any less likely to carry the disease toward a (as you say) vulnerable person or child, killing him needlessly. At least the unvaccinated are significantly more aware of their current status as a carrier and thus will not endangers others needlessly, unlike your ilk.
I see the brain vaccine you took was effective. Perhaps too effective even. Are you sure you didn't get an adverse reaction that squeezed your brains out through your nose?

>>11326382
Aw shucks. Don't be so gay for me Anon.

>>11325316
Clamping infants umbilical cords allows hospitals to perform more births per hour (make money). It doesn't necessarily benefit the infant to have its supply of oxygen cut off dramatically right after the trauma of being birthed.

Circumcision should be an obvious thing to criticize. What is ethically sound about taking a newborn from its mother, tying it down to a piece of cold plastic, injecting lidocane into its infant penis and then jabbing the infant's penis with a needle, swiveling the needle around to sever connective tissue, then filleting and amputating the human prepuce nonconsensually from a newborn who writhes and screams in pain and bleeds? It's a needless procedure. If it was necessary why don't we see skyhigh UTI rates among infants in Sweden? Penis cancer in boys in Japan? obscenely high HPV and AIDS rates among Australians? Any benefits the procedure awards should be evaluated by boys when they are able to make informed consent decisions. Then of course we must consider the hefty profifts hospitals and doctors are awarded by selling the amputated foreskins.

The issue of vaccinations is a complicated one. Without going to the specifics, let us ask ourselves, do you trust the man delivering your baby who insists on cutting the umbilical cord while it still pumps oxygen to the newborn before they learn to breathe? Just because it makes the process faster for him? Do you trust the man who tells you vaccines are good when he also tells you that cutting off parts of babies penises is healthy and good, even though he profits from selling the tissue?

Just because some Anon rants in allcaps doesn't make him wrong. Who's really irrational here? Must skepticism on these topics be so taboo?

>>11326549
There are plenty of evidence vaccines are not to be trusted without a case-by-case analysis and personal opportunity-cost analysis.
The FDA itself is well aware of a lot of risk, including contamination, of a lot of vaccines, but decides actively not to retract the vaccine, because they have personally assessed that the population-level effect is, in their mind, too great, to retract it. It's the same as clamping: money over anything else, more or less.

Also, vaccinated people are, I believe, actively disinformed for the sake of maximizing the utility function used by groups like governments at the expense of the people. For example, who among even /sci/ is aware that viruses can perfectly mutate within asymptomatic vaccinated carriers, such as those of polio or pertussis?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5378080/

Or the historical contamination of common vaccines?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10472327
http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.php
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5404636/
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.biologicals.2014.07.003

Who here really knows the risk of severe side-effects of common vaccines?
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/2/325
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-04/pas-nrr042619.php

Further, I strongly believe that negative effects are severely underreported because of the shunning effect that the population has decided on and the cult-like adherence to the idea that vaccines are perfect. Moreover, even if an event is believed to be caused to a vaccine, what are the parents (or worse, kid - who doesn't understand these things or why that would matter) going to do? They'll nurse the kid to health or go to the hospital and that's it. No record of the link between vaccine and event will ever be made.

>>11326605
Also, I recall an article that was all over msm a few years back (not sure how accurate that was, I first caught wind of it on 4chan after all) about most vaccines in some country (UK? US?) being highly contaminated, with shit ranging from other viral strands to fecal matter.

>>11326397
How about you prove your baseless statement.

>>11326607
See >>11326605
Or
>>>/x/ where you belong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20200027

Pic probably unrelated.

>>11322553
Ignores a myriad of long term effects. Educate yourself.

>>11326716
Very few people develop a fever to the point where they have long term damage. In this case I would question if they were given some medication, like tylenol. Back in sane-world, they should be given vitamin A and vitamin C.

>>11320691
nice job

>>11326724
>Back in sane-world, they should be given vitamin A and vitamin C.
That sounds a lot less profitable.

>>11321733
>what is improved health care practices
>what is improved understanding of infectious diseases
>what is modernized public health
>what is better preventative care
Looking at a downward trend in cases from the last century and concluding that vaccination was never needed is laughably stupid. A virus won't just "go away" if we just lay down and let the epidemic fizzle out. Measles is one such disease. Are you suggesting the entire pop. become naive after several generations and stick to preventative care to fight disease transmission?

>>11321742
>in a group for anti-vaxxers
>everyone has an anecdote of muh vax injury
Next you're gonna tell me that the anons on /pol/ hate blacks

>>11322472
>Because viruses live and mutate in vaccinated hosts asymptomatically
Mmmm not all vaccines rely on the same mechanism of induced immunity. You're painting with a broad stroke here... would you happen to be anti-vax? The only infectious disease I recall in recent history that has mutated some resistance to its vaccine is polio in the middle east, and only because the vaccines (taken orally) in the middle east are less effective than their counterparts in the US

>>11320691
Based retard

>>11327617
>what is missing the point
How do you manage to repeat exactly his point and then not get it at all?

>>11327695
Measles can't be eradicated without a vaccine.

>>11327731
You mean it can't be eradicated with one. It could be eradicated by advanced surveillance and mandatory quarantine, but of course that has its own issues.

>>11320687
MMR- unlikely to have effects
anybody who trust US "medical" proffessionals are fucking braindead
all these other fucking rando vaccines nobody fucking gets and vaccine schedules that are fucking ridiculous (fucking 200 shots, yet you fat fucks are still going to drop dead from diabetes and heart attacks) that only exist in the US with the worlds shittiest most money grubbing healthcare system is all you need to know the other "vaccines" are useless shit
the US still gives out birth control thats banned in "shithole" latin american countries because its been proven not to work decades ago, whats even more telling all the outbreaks caused by "evil" antivaxxers all involve foreigners who were infected and the disease barely spreads outside the initial community

>>11328790
What's it like to be both desperate to be accepted and also desperate to prove yourself better than everyone else?

What's it like having the communication skills of a 7th grader and the arrogance of a retiree who lost his relevance 30 years ago?

What's it like being brittle and feeling like you need to be hard?

>>11328831
>feeling like you need to be hard?
I'm already hard.

>>11328831
>vaccines are a zero sum issue
whats it like to have a chromosome deficiency?

Look at all the injected aluminum victims in here, I bet you were all subjected to repeated ultrasounds and genitally mutilated while only minutes old.
The trifecta of brain damage creates the perfect trauma based mind control slave that will accept all propaganda from "sources of authority" and use cognitive dissonance to protect themselves from learning

>>11329103
:"Chainless slaves"
Yep. I'm still pretty clever, but imagine how much better it could've been if I wasn't deliberately brain damaged repeatedly from every conceivable angle by the power structure.

>>11320691
Stop felating yourself, we're concerned about the diseases you carry, not you.

>>11329171
You carry diseases yet you believe you're immune to being a carrier. The unvaccinated don't have such delusions. You are the danger.

>>11329180
>You are the danger.
They're weaponized morons. I've told people for years, no one exists in a vacuum, These people damaging their children and unable to face reality are a constant threat. Now with forced vaccination, they have been primed, and they will be turned upon us.

>>11321733
This is missing the number of people dying of chicken pox, the deadliest of childhood illnesses.

>>11321779
By missing the point you proved how retarded you are.

>>11329590
I already know the answer, You couldn't even graph it and have the death rate show up.

Let's see, 5,000,000 cases per year. Max of 500 deaths. Gee.

>>11320744
>>11320760
I had measles wthout vaccine and I'm perfectly fine

>>11329593
And those deaths are typically non-random, too (usually the old who never got measles before, or kids so young they wouldn't have been getting their first dose yet so that's moot, or the immunocompromised).

>>11322591
It certainly raises the question of how retardos like you end up in a place for science and math.

>>11330395
>n-no u ;_;
Typical cultnigger.

>>11330425
But he called you a retard! That's the most powerful argument on Earth!

>>11320687
>2020
>being anti-vaxxer

>>11331524
Reminder that if you didn't get your coronavirus shot yet, you're literally killing children.

>>11331524
You can't like Lain and be retarded. It's not allowed.

>>11320691
Because they know they are right and it terrifies them. They destroyed themselves and their children.

>>11331791
Delicious irony

>>11332161
The thread is chockfull of peer-reviewed articles proving your ilk are dangerous morons. Where's your scientific evidence of anything at all, sheep?

>>11332165
You're not responding to who you think you're responding to

>>11332167
B-baka, it was on purpose. I t-totally meant this as an ironic joke and didn't misunderstand.

>>11320691
t. literal brainlet

>>11332175
Hi, literal brainlet. Welcome to this thread. What did you want to talk about?

>>11320691
They are afraid we will die and be unable to share our wealth with the collective. They will need to work harder instead of sitting around being dumb.

>>11321733
yeah I too can draw pretty graphs out of nowhere

>>11320691
Imagine being this stupid...

>>11320708
You idiots never give up do you?
>Reminder that vaccines are still poison.
Posts peer-reviewed proofs or fuck right off.

>>11333103
Read the thread, retard.

>>11320687
>Woman on the verge of tears in the interview
I thought this was a serious doc, not a play. I am not antivaxx by the way.

>>11333103
Read the thread, retard.

>>11333318
There literally does not exist one piece of serious media properly dealing with real antivaxxers. Ask yourself why.

>>11334015
It's the same with every major controversy. If it's covered at all, it's always propped up people and theater. I shudder to imagine that there exist people who could watch that and not recognize that it's all staged.

>>11334381
>I shudder to imagine that there exist people who could watch that and not recognize that it's all staged.
>t. Alex Jones

>>11334434
I don't follow. I think you're just too dumb or emotionally invested to see it clearly.

>>11320687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbqhlZfxDto

>>11334015
Obviously they all die at age two and therefore can't be in a documentary.

>>11320687
Vaxxtards unironically shoot themselves up with metal and aborted fetus tissue and think they deserve good boy brownie points from the specialboys in labcoats

>>11325187
>hep b is the only vaccine
Are you actually retarded or just pretending? Things like the flu, MMR, etc aren't given until 6 months or later.
>>11325214
>100% of people who died drank water
>ergo water WILL kill you if you drink it
>>11325042
Infowars is not a peer reviewed journal

>>11335127
>hep b vaccine does not exist, please do not question it
Are you actually retarded or just pretending?

>>11335127
>literally too retarded to read the thread so peer-reviewed world-renowned scientific publications are suddenly infowars

>>11335127
This is why they clamp, vaccinate, and amputate parts of the genitals. It sounds like a meme at this point, but it's actually pretty fucked up and sad. People are defending our abusers.

>>11335190
If they disagree with me, they're not peer reviewed.