/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11307784
Fuck it

Scrap it and use its components and most of the solar planets to build a ring around the sun.

>>11307784
drop it on australia

>>11307784
Cum inside of my wife on it

>>11307784
Shove it up your ass

>>11307784
do a dzhanibekov spin on it

>>11307784
trade it for some bernal spheres

>>11307948
How many JWSTs is that worth? Looks like a lot, can it be constructed in under a millennia?
Ever wonder about how incredibly disconnected from on the ground reality your science fiction fantasy life is?

>>11307784
place a molecular generator at one end that slowly fills the cylinder with my cum, to the point where the inhabitants of the cylinder will only be aware of the problem about 50 years into their existence, having drunk uncountable gallons of my cum and eventually succumbing to being drowned by cum over millennia during the rise and fall of their civilizations, which become more cum centric as time wears on in hopes of placating the absent cum god forsaking their world

>>11307784
inhabit it with my spawn, capture asteroids and start building generation ships, and send them to maybe habitable nearby planets

>>11307784
Declare independence from earth.
Build giant mecha.

>>11307951
>Dur buldin big thang impusible

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>>11307784
Scrap it and make a torus-shaped space cave colony* orbiting the sun. You know, something that would actually work, unlike an O'Neil cylinder.

*Stanford torus (minus the retard windows)
Von Braun wheel
Bernal sphere at least

>>11307951
Russia could have one built in a decade with about ₽3,000,000 (little under $50k USD).

>>11308309
Only the inside would look more like this.

>>11307784
>>11307948
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>>11308309
Why are rotating part exposed?
Wouldn't it make more sense to make one large structure with thick shielding, like a giant cube with metal walls filled with water and hydrogen, and then inside it make several rotating colonies of different size and purpose?

>>11308245
Ever wonder about how incredibly disconnected from on the ground reality your science fiction fantasy life is?

>>11308333
>Pretending to know what a random anon thinks

That’s a yikes from me, baby gurl.

this thread belongs on /co/
i think most of the artwork is out of fantastic four comic books and the concepts and equally realistic

>>11308336
>I think

Do you really?

>>11308320
>Why are rotating part exposed?
"Space cave," is what I >>11308309 said. No windows.

>filled with water and hydrogen
Pretty much, but not free hydrogen. Instead you can just use plastic. Like polyethylene. The ratio of carbon atoms to hydrogen atom is 1:2, respectively. There are programs to develop plastic shielding with as many hydrogen atoms as possible squeezed in. It seems to be the cheapest and lightest material to use that works well with primary and secondary particles.

>>11308336
Much of the artwork is rather old and newer stuff is normally based on the old designs. All of which are incorrect. The biggest error is having windows. You simply can't have unshielded windows in space. even the coupla on the ISS is heavily shielded(pic) and those shields are only open when someone is inside for a limited amount of time.

The best you can hope for are interior lights simulating sunlight or whatever your needs are.

>>11308336
They look nothing like that stuff (pic). I even think the capeshit one has artificial gravity devices which is why it doesn't need to spin or whatever.

>>11308349
>The biggest error is having windows. You simply can't have unshielded windows in space.

What if I was a robot person?

>>11308309
and why wouldn't an O'Neil cylinder work?

>>11308457
not science fictiony or comicbookish enough

>>11308457
1: wrong shape
2: windows
3: circumference isn't quite large enough for best gravity acclimatization for people, due to Coriolis force

>>11308474
Actually, it is the exact opposite and is too "science fictiony or comicbookish."

>>11308478
>>wrong shape
you didn't explain what's wrong
>>windows
I don't see how that's a problem.
>>circumference isn't quite large enough
few people would get motion sickness due to coriolis forces

>>11307951
The comparison make little sense though.
If you're talking just about mass, then JWST weighs as a school bus (6 tons), which doesn't cost much, the technology is completely unrelated.
The structural mass of a small colony isn't bigger than a cruise ship, and the materials shouldn't be terribly sophisticated.
Most of the building mass should come from the moon or asteroids, of course we're not there yet, but there is no reason to think we won't be able to do that maybe in no more than a few decades.
Robotics in space is a big money saver and progress is already rapid.
If Starship delivers we will also have chepear access to space.

>>11308489
>you didn't explain what's wrong
Unstable.

>I don't see how that's a problem.
Radiation as already stated.

>few people would get motion sickness due to coriolis forces
It is more than that, including how people function and what forces are in platy from head to toe.

>>11309307
FYI O'Neill himself said that those designs were only for the purpose of illustration, he didn't expect them to be the final ones.
And he did address some of the problems:
About instability not sure if that what you're talking about but he proposed (among others) two cylinders paired rotating in opposite directions.
Other designs take into account radiation and heavy shielding, with a more complex light path.
Some designs are based on spheres instead of cylinders, and diameters can be big enough to counter motion sickness for all people.

>>11307784
How exactly do the clouds work? Do they all just spin evenly around like everything else?

>>11310691
It's not that they have any other choice.

>>11307784
Drop it on Jew York

>>11310691
I'd assume the fluid dynamics inside a cylinder like that would probably be fairly complicated.

>>11307784
Consume all available resources at the fastest possible rate, making it's long term habitability non-viable.

>>11307806
I see what you did there...

>>11307784
Constantly worry about getting hit by asteroids. At least down here we have some structural integrity.

In any case, you don't really own a space colony like that, just as nobody owns the Earth. When it's somewhere people live, and it forms the entirety of their environment, it becomes something you operate and maintain, not own.

>>11311966
>how to make things go to shit real fast 101
Nah any place needs a real strong owner who has full authority to make decisions and isn't afraid to use it. Otherwise everyone would just ditch everything that isn't biting them in the ass right away on the next dude until the whole thing falls apart.

>>11309307
>>unstable
They were intended to be built in pairs so you could point them
>>radiation
as expected, you fell for the trap. The hugeass of air between the windows and the ground acts like shielding.