/sci/ - Science & Math

>>1130588
>three nitrogen atoms
>two R-O-O-R bonds
>three different rings
>an N-O-N bond
FUCK YOU MAN

GAME OVER

Cocksalin

why is the right baller bigger?

oh wait it's chemistry

>>1130588
cockcaine

>>1130596

There are four rings there.
the N-C-O-O-C-C-C-O-O-C makes a ring.

>>1130605
And would also immediately collapse.

>>1130611

Nice job being a spoilsport.

>>1130611
Actually, it would wobble around. 10-atom rings gain stability just from being so large they're not really rings enough anymore to worry about strain and torsion.

So it's a pretty limp cock.

>>1130617

There are plenty of dick-shaped compounds (I am sure) that actually exist. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I know they must be out there.

You don't need to invent nonsense for science to give you penises.

>>1130628
Well we're not talking about that.

NAME THIS ONE. IUPAC.
DO IT FAGGOT

>>1130628
well...they don't look like dicks in anything else then 2d representations

unless you wanna try to form a nanotube like structure

the only reason this structure is impossible is the oxygen/nitrogen heterocycle.

if it was 1,3,5 triazine, the structure would NOT be impossible.

cyclic diperoxides are encountered often.

the sp2 nature of the carbon attached to the first oxygen does not increase the strain energy of the (-c-o-o-c-o-o-) ring apprciably

>>1130643
...

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Nyor~oon?

>>1130643

Can you construct a better, sexier Chemistry Dick?

>>1130643
I am humbled by your advanced O-chem knowledge and understanding. You have earned your years and life wasted in grad school well.

>>1130609
That's methylone in that pic, not MDMA.

>>1130643
OH YEAH?

IF YOU'RE SO SMART, DRAW THE RESONANCE STRUCTURES FOR THE MOLECULE
IN PAINT
WITH A LAPTOP TOUCHPAD

>>1130588
I see you come from /tg/.
>>>/tg/10342645

>>1130688

Yeah, we were having fun.

>>1130688
christ

/sci/, /tg/'s being nerdier than us

>>1130628
>>1130642


i had to dig this up. took a while"

http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/CC/article.asp?doi=b919275a

>>1130643
Can you name the molecule using IUPAC?

I dont know how this molecule would ever exist above -160 C. Fucking O chains? The hell?

>>1130698
We also do philosophy and rape fics.

>>1130709

You forgot about the stories about the philosophy of rape.

>>1130668
>>1130668
>>1130668

phd organic chemists are guaranteed to make more than physicsts, most engineers (not electrical), biochemists, biologists, environmental scientists, and geologists for the rest of their life.

quick quick quick:\

what is the most selective, difficult to be accepted, in demand graduate education in the entire world?

MBA from harvard?
law degree from some other ivy league?
MD from stanford or UCSF?


no. it is the combined PHD in pharmacuetical chem/MD program.

100% of all accepted undergraduates have a bare minimum of a 3.9 GPA, 3 published papers, and essentially a 100% on both the general and subject GRE, as well as a minimum of 2 years of undergraduate research.

I have a friend who got accepted to graduate school at:

cal tech
MIT
berkeley
stanford
yale

but did NOT get accepted to this program.


people who graduate from the program (no post doc) in 5 years are literally offered a $350k/year salary at the age of 27.

>>1130700

>>1130716
We do just about everything.

>>1130702
>>1130702


ever heard of hydrogen peroxide?

ever heard of acetone peroxide? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide


more unstable than a peroxide is a diazonium salt (essentially an aromatic compound with a molecule of nitrogen attached to it)

THOSE chemicals barely exist above 20 C (they explode in the flask, all the fucking time)

>>1130726
>*GASP* I MUST DEFEND THE LARGELY-IMPRACTICAL-SAVE-FOR-THAT-ONE-CASE ARGUMENT FOR GOING TO GRAD SCHOOL AS OPPOSED TO A PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL

>>1130743
lololo

>>1130726
>undergraduates have a bare minimum of a 3.9 GPA, 3 published papers, and essentially a 100% on both the general and subject GRE, as well as a minimum of 2 years of undergraduate research
God fucking dammit. This is why I wish I'd been born 10-15 years earlier.
THESE CUNTS ARE THE REASON WHY I HAVE TO GET A 35 ON THE MCAT AND A 3.8 GPA AND FUCKING VOLUNTEER WORK TO GET INTO FUCKING MED SCHOOL

>>1130743
>>1130743


astra zeneca, sigma aldrich, IBM, shell, pfizer, johnson and johnson, etc do not hire people from "professional" schools.

they hire PHDs in chemistry, biochemistry, materials science, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, mathematics, and/or physics.


the people with "certifications" and "technical school degrees" are relegated to hazmat cleanup and "monkey work" and will never get paid more than $100k/year even after 30 years in the industry.

>>1130755
>>1130755
>>1130755


you should go to med school in europe.

the US has a ridiculous, idiotic medical school program:

4 years undergraduate
6 years med scholl
2-4 years residency

before you can even begin practicing yourself. thats at least the age of 30 years old before you can even enter the work place


med school in europe is 5 years med school, no residency.

working by 27, getting paid ~$250k/year

>>1130757
>they hire PHDs
As in those who will actually COMPLETE their grad school degree, as well as with a reasonable degree of recognition and academic success. Not those who will get in, then sort of flounder around for 7 years, FINALLY get out, then be overqualified for every job that's not a teaching position.

>>1130763
DON'T YOU THINK I WOULD IF I COULD?

but i can't skip countries for a degree
i have no idea how for one thing

Also:
>no residency
...how do you people let "new" doctors go near you without quivering in fear?

>>1130763
27 vs. 30 isn't really that bad.
It's more the fact that the medical system in the U.S. is so hard to GET INTO.

Our med schools can't even accept 33% of the willing (and mostly able) applicants in their pools. It's no small wonder we need more doctors/nurses (aside from getting progressively fatter and older).

>>1130773


very few people get to that point and "leave with their masters"

most people who EPICALLY fail in the way that you described (that is what it is... failure. pure and simple), fail by their 4th or AT MAX 5th year.


incredibly few chem related fields have PHD students past their 6th year (if you havent begun your thesis by your 6th year, you should be worried)

most graduate in 4-5 years.


a masters degree in essentially an physical or natural science is a complete waste of time and will net you basically nothing in the long run.

this is 2010. its not 1930. back then, an undergraduate education would allow you to derive basic quantum mechanical laws and discover new synthetic techniques


all the easy shit has been figured out. science is hard now a days.


a masters degree is just not enough extra training.


a bachelors degree is not enough for trust from a private company (Eg they would not trust you to do your own research, you just act as a technician or as "robotic arms" for a PHD who runs your project)

>>1130785
>>1130785
>>1130785


they dont go directly in and do nuero surgery dumbass.

but the statistics back up the system. the basic medical care available in the UK (where this program exists, specifically) is equivalent or better than in north america.

specialist doctors are always going to be in demand, and that demand will always require more experience/training.

but again, those are rare instances in any case and are not the "normative" behavior (internal medicine, pediatricians, GPs, etc)

>>1130763
> 5 years med school
> no residency
Aaaand that's why our doctors are the best in the world and yours are not. /argument.

>>1130763

5? It´s 6 in Finland. 4 + 2.

>>1130785
>>1130785

really? why not? is it some issue with the undergraduate education not lining up?

you can do it with an MS and phd...

people do it all the time.

>>1130801

33% isn´t bad at all, wtf u talkin bout

10% and lower acceptance ratios are acceptable. If more are taken in, then the place is full of inept retards.

>>1130808
>>1130808
>>1130808

not those right out of their residency. they are rarely better "on average" than the equivalent right out of med school in the UK.


the US has more well qualified doctors for the exact same reason the US has more well qualified science:

the recent history of the US fostered scientific research, resulting in immigration of talent from all over the world, developing an environment that allowed such educational programs to develop.


if there were an equal number of prestigious medical schools in europe, your claims would no longer apply.

I apologize.

I said this all wrong:

I said that UK doctors go to undergraduate.


this is untrue. they go directly to med school after 2ndary school.


the result is still the same, they go into the workforce at least 4 years earlier than people in the US:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=609462

>>1130588
>>1130588

>>1130830
>not those right out of their residency. they are rarely better "on average" than the equivalent right out of med school in the UK.
LOL show proof of this or shut the fuck up

>>1130588
its a penis

>>1130947

congratulations

I want to be biochemist.

What do?