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i guess vaccines are a good idea. in 100 years infant mortality will be higher than in 1809

this will leave the population with many resources and many high immune system evolved humans. so after the infant death spike, will follow a world with naturally immune babies.

it is a step in the right direction.

>> No.11273455

>>11273450
Vaccines don't just kill, they sicken and cripple those that survive.

>> No.11273471

>>11273455
so only non vaccinated people will be around in 200 years. less retards who know nothing of basic medicine

>> No.11273475

>>11273450
not to mention, all the resources. immune people with double the resources. people would be working 30 hours a week for an entire centary.

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>>11273471
Honestly, it's terrible to imagine the suffering, but if it really did shake out that cleanly and wasn't seized upon by the power structure for some purpose, I can't say it wouldn't be a relief. Some which is too brainwashed, too stupid, too mentally ill to listen to anything contradicting their belief system, is not something I or anyone else needs around. I have no need nor desire for cattle, and especially not to live amidst cattle.

>> No.11273561

>>11273450
>guess vaccines
science

>> No.11273570

>>11273450
is this weak bait what /sci/ will be like in 2020?

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>>11273570
Clamped, vaxxed, cut.

For how long?

>> No.11273595

>>11273575
>Clamped,
what did he mean by this?

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>>11273595

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>>11273601

>> No.11273618

>>11273601
It's becoming more common to delay cord clamping.
The benefits, while there, are still reasonably modest and it hasn't been demonstrated to have much of an impact other than decreasing the odds of anemia or delayed growth, which comes at the cost of increased risk of jaundice. Either way you go it's not really a massive deal.

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>>11273618
The jaundice is in large part a myth. I looked for substantiation in the literature and only found a modest size review (~10,000 subjects), where they found the risk was 2% vs 5%. Trivial. Also come to find out the form of vitamin K they were using at the time caused jaundice, various other steps of the birth can cause jaundice, hepatits B vaccinatun can cause jaundice[...]. And regardless, it's easily treatable with phototherapy.

I see jaundice as an excuse to continue a perverse practice and not lose face. Something the medical system has pathetically struggled with over and over again, oh geez we jumped into this, we can never let the public know we didn't know everything at all times. We can never be at fault.

Time to grow up, boys and girls.

>> No.11273635

>>11273628
The shift is towards delayed cord clamping anyway, and again the difference is really not as significant as you're making it out to be.

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>>11273635
There is practically no instance in which the cord should have ever been clamped early, and there shouldn't be a "shift", the medical system is top down control and therefore it should be mandated and standard practice, period. Anything else is improper care and open for malpractice if done outside of a justifiable rationale. It''s a birth, we've been doing it for a long time. You don't do it wrong.

Early clamping is part of a much greater constellation of things being done wrong, to which there really is no excuse, and it is a crime.

>> No.11273654

>>11273644
In the past doctors used to deliver babies after performing autopsies.
Trust me, this is not a big deal in the scope of things.
You want to get angry at something, look at how many unnecessary caesarians are performed in western countries.

>> No.11273656

>>11273654
I was a caesarian, so I do know about this. No pitocin though fortunately.

>> No.11273719

>>11273601
I'm 2 for 3
Thank god I'm not cut