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Imagine saving a pair of baby girls years of pain and suffering by using CRISPR to deactivate the HIV gene in their embryos and then being sentenced to prison for 3 years

>> No.11270729

is he chinese?

>> No.11270732

Ethical Idiots and Deathists that try to slow down medical technology deserve the rope.

>> No.11270737
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>>11270719
I hear you OP. I'm hoping those losers holding progress back will die off eventually. I dream of a world where everyone has purple/pink eyes, you can grow babies in your own home without a female, cancer and aging can be cured with an injection, and whole bodies can be grown without brains so that we can get drunk daily and buy a new liver for the price of an escort. Many people would go insane in the new world and would crave "authenticity," but they would die off soon. It would be beautiful. Maybe like Brave New World at some point but instead a million different intelligence classes there would just be a bunch of immortal hedonists with rainbow eye/hair colors and perhaps an underclass of laborers/sex slaves.

Let's be real here, people who say that Brave New World is a dystopia are the real brainlets.

>> No.11270740

>>11270719
>implying the Chinese government doesn't have this guy in a secret lab somewhere engineering super human babies right now

>>11270732
also this

>> No.11270762

>>11270740
Well I mean genes can’t really do that much for a persons strength or intelligence...

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>>11270732
>Deathists

cryogenics won't save you, anti ageing won't save you, oh no

you'll be in the dirt and i'll try my best to head over to where ever that is and have a wank

>> No.11270795

>>11270770
>anti ageing won't save you
>you'll be in the dirt
yeah probably, I was just implying if ageing can be slowed down or even reversed there is no reason not to do it.

>> No.11270815

>>11270770
No, no.
YOU will die!

>> No.11271458

>>11270719
Chinks deserve to be in prison tho. Theyre the cockroaches of asia

>> No.11271662

>>11271458
>muh ethics and muh white creativity
>chinks can't into creativity and no genetic engineering is not creativity
Shut the fuck up bitch
SHUT THE FUCK UP

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>>11271662

>> No.11271685

>>11271670
Cheating is closer to how work is in the real world. Closed book exams are not how the real world works.
Memorization isn't useful in any field except law and medicine.
You copy code from stackoverflow/your companies repositories during all your jobs anyways.

>> No.11271691

>>11270732
You can move to the next stage of evolution but you won't be a human then, more like a breeder race like company dogs.

>> No.11271697

>>11270719
Yeah I fucking hate these sorts of people. They're genuinely holding back the human race. We could all be so much more smarter, stronger, and healthier in the future but it might not ever happen just because of some 'moralist' faggots who think tampering with our genes is inherently wrong and against nature or some shit.

>> No.11271703

>>11270719
You just want to shove CRISPR into anons' throats.

>> No.11271705

>>11271697
The technology is not ready, same with same sex change operations.

Do you want more of that?

>> No.11271727

>>11271705
>The technology is not ready, same with same sex change operations.
I mean, even if that's true, my point being was that people in general are going to be against it. They're against it now, they'll be against it when the technology IS ready. Look at sex change operations. Look at all the people still against it because they think someone can't be born the wrong gender despite all the science pointing towards gender dysphoria being real. It's going to take a very, very long time until genetic engineering becomes commonplace. Like maybe a century or so.

>> No.11271731

>>11271727
Yes I'm against butchered people because someone wanted to play God, and I'm against man made mutants because someone managed to edit the exact gene once.

>> No.11271742
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>>11270719
>>11270732
>>11270737
>>11271697
>muh technology will always benefit me
>muh technology will only do what i want it to

>> No.11271822

>>11271742
Your point would only be valid if there was a primitive answer to technology. There just isn't. A primitive society loses to a technological society.

>> No.11271828

>>11270762
yeah it has been conclusively proven that your dna has absolutely no impact or your IQ.

>> No.11271835

>>11271731
>Yes I'm against butchered people because someone wanted to play God
It's not about wanting to play God, it's about wanting to improve the human race as a whole. If we can produce offspring that are 100% superior to us, there's no reason NOT to do it.

>and I'm against man made mutants because someone managed to edit the exact gene once.
So we'll just keep experimenting and creating better technology to help facilitate reliable genetic engineering.

>> No.11271864

>>11271835
My butchered example was for sex change operations that are just not ready and in reality is just malpractice.

Gene therapy ain't ready you start making mass efforts and you will create man made mutants and abominations.

What are you gonna do with them, burn them?, toss them into the laberynth if they are the king's son?

>> No.11271909

>>11271864
Sex change operations are experiments. People who participate are guinea pigs.
They need to be more open about how they're not ready

>> No.11271927

>>11270719
You must obey the law. By not obeying, you are disputing the sovereignty of the state. Sovereignty is the key element that allows any nation to preserve order. By doing science outside the law you are doing more harm than good, even if your scientific results were good.

You do have a choice to elect a representative to a parliament, have them set-up and vote for laws, and then make your research legally.

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>>11271822
WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT FAGGOT, SEE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD.

>> No.11271958

>>11271948
Yeah humans don't have access to animals that can destroy tanks and spaceships.

>> No.11271967

>>11271958
A human can do that and they are also animals.

check and mate.

>> No.11271976

>>11271967
Humans arent animals, retard. Learn some english.

>> No.11271982

>>11271976
>humans
>not animals
our brain is basically the same as a chimp's but bigger

>> No.11271986

>>11271976
>Humans arent animals, retard

Humans are multicellular eukaryotes in the clade Animalia. We are animals. Learn some biology.

>> No.11271992

>>11271982
I dont know where you got that idea. Chimp brain is totally different. Retard.

>>11271986
Wrong again. In human languages animals refers to non-humans, used by ALL biologists. Ask your biology professor. Retard & autist & redditor.

>> No.11271993

>>11271742
Technology has largely benefited us. The alternative is to live like any other ape and die at forty, which no one has any interest in doing. Primitivism is just a contradictory mental illness

>> No.11271999

>>11271864
>My butchered example was for sex change operations that are just not ready and in reality is just malpractice.

Literally zero relation to gene editing.

> Gene therapy ain't ready

Yes it is.

>> No.11272000

>>11271993
Technology is a non-word. Better word would be 'behavior'. We just invent new behaviors and do 'better' in the future (human "progress" is in any case non-falsifiable, religious claim).

>> No.11272001

>>11271992
>source
Robert Sapolsky

>> No.11272006

>>11271992
> In human languages animals refers to non-humans

Wrong. An animal is a member of the clade animalia, and we’re in that clade, so we’re animals.

> used by ALL biologists.

All biologists use cladistic taxonomy, and humans are animals cladistically. You are joking.

>> No.11272007

>>11272006
Wrong again. You are obviously not even a scientist. Poster ignored.

>> No.11272008

>>11272000
>Technology is a non-word.

Technology. Technology. Technology.
No, it’s definitely a word.

> (human "progress" is in any case non-falsifiable, religious claim).

Wrong. It’s an ethical claim.

>> No.11272015

>>11272007
Wrong again. You are obviously not even a scientist. Poster ignored.

>> No.11272026

>>11272008
Wrong. Another poster ignored.

>> No.11272029

>>11272026
Wrong. Another poster ignored.

>> No.11272104

>>11270719
>>11270732
>>11270737
He's being transferred to a top secret research lab where he'll have access to as many embryos and women to implant them in as he wants

>> No.11272116

>>11270737
>everyone has purple/pink eyes
Why?

>> No.11272219

>>11272116
>https://www.nei.nih.gov/learn-about-eye-health/eye-conditions-and-diseases/pink-eye
Seriously wtf

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>>11271822
>Your point would only be valid if there was a primitive answer to technology. There just isn't. A primitive society loses to a technological society.

>> No.11274002

>>11271685
>>11271662
seething chink

>> No.11274004

>>11272104
source

>> No.11274015

>>11273996
That doesn't mean nothing.

>> No.11274024

>>11270719
retarded

>> No.11274030

>>11270732
people who think living hooked up to a machine and taking 20 different pills a day is "living" deserve the bullet

>> No.11274033

>>11274030
actually no, they deserve the slow agonizing clawing onto s few extra years in a bed they crave so much

>> No.11274035

amoral or unethical antihumans must be exterminated

>> No.11274093

>>11270719
While I agree with the progression of science and humanity, his impulsive actions were not necessarily the most optimal way to achieve that. In fact, with the abundance of lukewarm IQ in politics, it might've slowed the progression of research. Scientists are fearful that gene-editing technologies, if abused, will go the way of GMOs and be outlawed for political or irrational reasons before their true potential can be realized.

>> No.11274137

>>11273996
The Amish aren't being attacked with tanks. They would lose in an actual war.
Likewise, if primitavists blew up the powergrid, we'd get annhilated by the Chinese.

>> No.11274364

>>11270732
cuck

>> No.11274444

>>11270719

>imagine thinking you actually have a say as a scientist in fucking China

Reminder that you step out of line in China you go to jail or get sentenced to death. It doesn't matter if he's an expert in genetic engineering/CRISPR technology, China has a surplus of high IQ people chomping at the bits for his slot. Do not step out of line there, they will fuck your shit up.

You bitch and moan about modern western science and liberals. But never forget that even with shit like racial science that gets frown upon and even dress you down accolades wise you will never be put to fucking death over it. In China even publishing in academic form that a portion of their population has origins outside of China with a group they don't approve will be meet with death as Tashpolat Tiyip is faced with.

>> No.11274493

>>11270732
>>11271742
Terrorists.