/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11260862
Not like it is your money

>>11260869
So what? That money could be making the world better and instead it's burned up by rocket fuel. And unfortunately an entire generation has been brainwashed by these space fantasies

>>11260862
You are just assuming that money would be used for anything good. At least now it is progressing technology and not being used to fund endless wars in the middle east.

>>11260862
>There is literally nothing but rocks out there
>t. alien

>>11260873
It ain't your money. Do whatever you want with yours. What are you a democrat?

>>11260862
Yeah, there's only trillions of dollars worth of metals up there that will prevent shortages of critical electronics components which will happen within 100 years. Better not even think about tapping those resources. Cheap resources are bad mkay

>>11260873
>So what? That money could be making the world better and instead it's burned up by rocket fuel
Use your imagination dumbass

>all manufacturing and mining moved off-world
>access to vast resources
>human civilization expands into the solar system making it impossible for a single government to control

>>11260862
"Burning" money increases the value of money and makes goods and services more affordable. Benefiting the poor, more than others.

>>11260862
The chance of the mass extinction of the human race is 100% if we stay on Earth. It is inevitable that either war, a bioweapon, pollution, some cosmic event like an asteroid, or the sun expanding into a red giant will kill all of us.

If our species is to survive, we have to spread to other planets among the stars. That way if one planet is compromised the entire species doesn't go extinct.

Eventually the universe will probably die with heatdeath or a big crunch or something, but we might as well try and enjoy our time and make the most of it.

>>11260862 (OP)
The chance of the mass extinction of the human race is 100% if we stay on Earth. It is inevitable that either war, a bioweapon, pollution, some cosmic event like an asteroid, or the sun expanding into a red giant will kill all of us.
If our species is to survive, we have to spread to other planets among the stars. That way if one planet is compromised the entire species doesn't go extinct.
Eventually the universe will probably die with heatdeath or a big crunch or something, but we might as well try and enjoy our time and make the most of it.

>>11260873
>making the world better
like meteorological and communications satellites do?

>Our technology is space based, From telecommunications to bio research, Mastering space is mastering our own world.

>Our world is not infinite and we will eventually run out of resources and space. We will need to grow and gather from locations that do not damage the local environments, And places to live when overcrowding becomes too much an issue.

>Space has inspired the minds of millions, From fiction to art people have rallied around the grand scope of whats above us. Millions of stars, With billions of worlds.

There will always be an "Issue" on the horizon, Climate Change, Hunger, Overpopulation, Every generation there will be another topic that will be brought up as some form of morale grounds to ignore the call of space travel. It would become that lifelong dream that you slowly put away, Every day telling yourself it can be put off until one day you simply shelf it completely as a foolish dream unrealistic dream. Except the dream was never unrealistic or foolish, You simply grew too weary from the work to pursue it.

You're more then welcome to tell your children that we are trapped to a world and a struggle against the human condition, I'm telling mine there is a piece of the sky with their names on it.

>>11260862
After you hit 30 you don't care about space travel like you used to at 20. You just want virtual porn and to be left alone.

Reminder the Sahara desert is bigger than Europe and any terraforming/base building in space is going to be 10x as expensive as base building in the Sahara

>>11261166
Honestly confused by this comment. I guarantee you that if there was any incentive to do something in the Sahara desert, we would engineer shit super quick and make it cheap. Nobody cares about the Sahara desert.

>>11261166
No terrorists in space though.

>>11261164
Speaks for yourself.
I want virtual porn in space.

>>11260887
>Cheap resources are bad mkay
Not so cheap to go out there mine them and bring them back, now is it?

>>11260862
*Manned space travel is pointless

>>11261166
>10x as expensive as base building in the Sahara
I'm afraid some zeroes are missing there

>>11261051
>And places to live when overcrowding becomes too much an issue.

how about we solve this instead.

>>11260862
it's a great way to rip of crazy drug addicts with to much money.

>it's another bucket crab thread
people like OP are the strongest argument in favor of full retard rand tier libertarianism

>>11260862
there are far worse things being done with money than space travel, and yet you whine about one of the only things that still drives technology forward

kys

I really wish Aubrey de Grey became a billionaire... :(

>>11260862

>Endless resources that would fix all our problems.
>Worthless.

THE STATE OF HUMANITY!

>>11261246
Looking at dead rocks is pointless. Manned space travel is the only one with a point.

>>11260862
spending money on high technology is by far the best use of it

>>11261411
Endless resources do not fix problems

>>11261453
sure, but they do give you money, which is the entire basis for the complaints about space travel despite how little it comparatively costs

You guys are dumb. Space travel is a fantasy and a waste of money. There is no evidence to suggest that humans can live in space and no reason to think that people can survive a year in cramped shithole of a ship on a journey to mars. That doesn't even factor in radiation or debris in space. The longest time anyone has been in space was like a year and there is evidence that cognitive abilities decrease in space. Humans evolved to live on Earth and the matter of fact is that we need to fix shit on this planet instead of burning up billions on rocket fuel. Guys like Bezos are as rich as it gets, ruin our planet, and then claim we need salvation in space by burning up billions of dollars on rocket fuel (money they earned from exploiting people and the planet in the first place).

>>11260895
No surprise that the most retarded post in literal years was by someone on Team Consume!

LOL

>>11260999
>The chance of the mass extinction of the human race is 100% if we stay on Earth
given enough time it's 100% no matter what

>>11261411
Resource density on earth = high
Resource density in space = very very very low

Density. Typically measure in mass or particle per unit volume. It's an extremely complicated concept, that perhaps you are not intelligent enough to understand. Do not feel bad. We are all born as we are.

>>11262169
I would come a lot later if it wasn't for capitalists exploiting the planet and the US government spend 700 trillion or on the military every year

>>11260862
Yeah I agree with this more or less. You have these moronic nerds fantasizing about space. Classical "chasing the fleeting wonderland" tards. Elon lives on his "iron man" image which is hugely popular among the genpop as well as marvel movies and such garbage.

Doesn't mean there's literally nothing to get or learn from outer space though.

>group of cavemen sitting up on a mountain
>one of them suggest going over to the next mountain
>NO THIS ROCK IS GOOD
>OTHER ROCK TOO FAR AWAY
>MAKE THIS ROCK BETTER FIRST
It's our destiny to make every star system in the galaxy ours.

>>11262173
this is why we must have a communist revolution and gulag all the capitalist swine
6 billion must die, it will be glorious

>>11260862
Weak bait.

> There is literally nothing but rocks out there.

Rocks have scientific and economic significance, and we don’t know that there’s just “rocks”. That’s your claim based on faith.

Fuck off

>>11262181
>That’s your claim based on faith.
Good one retard.

>>11262175
>noooo you can’t be optimistic and have any drive whatsoever stop it

>>11262178
He look!! It's analogy guy!! again

Always thinking up catchy new nonsense analogies to sell consumerist garbage to retards!

SO COOL!!!!

>>11262184
>Good one retard

Not an argument. Fuck off or prove there’s “just rocks”.

>>11262191
There are fucking millions of observations in space of just rocks. When has there ever been anything besides rocks in space? Dumbass nig.

>>11262197
>trillions of planets
>we've observed millions of them
you might as well say that because you've never created a thought worth speaking that you're a completely worthless sack of shit, but we can't be sure that you are even though it appears so

>>11262187
>optimism
you're just a retarded nerd who fell for a meme. deal with it.

>>11262178
Why would you do anything besides what you just described though? You ironically proved us right with your post.

>>11262199
>boohoo im a space nerd shame on you for proving me wrong. yOU'rE wORtHleSs.
>autism rage

>>11262197
>When has there ever been anything besides rocks in space?

Well, we’ve also seen stars and gas giants, which aren’t made of rocks. Looks like I win.

>>11262204
>Why would you do anything besides what you just described though?

This must be a meme.

>>11262200
>Noooo optimism is bad be like me and be so pathetic and hopeless that you troll on a Taiwanese soap carving forum

>>11260862
the moon has helium 3 which is rare on earth and could be used to power fusion reactors becoming the fuel of the future

asteroids could theoretically be mined too, but how fucking far fetched that is?

and the whole mars colony/permanent settlements thing is supreme retardation for anything but robots. it just is.

>>11262215
stoopid autist, humans got to where we are today by never migrating that's why civilization started in the sub-sahara...
everyone who escaped their troubles became retarded racists and destroyed themselves, white ppl BTFO by evolution and history...

>>11262217
>asteroids could theoretically be mined too, but how fucking far fetched that is?

It isn’t at all. Removing large amounts of material from asteroids would be trivial since their gravity is next to irrelevant.

>>11262218
>stoopid autist, humans got to where we are today by never migrating that's why civilization started in the sub-sahara...

Civilization did actually start in west Africa, among other origin points like Mesopotamia, the Indus Valley, and Mesoamerica, and Africans did a lot of migrating. Ever heard of the Bantu?

>>11262223
LIES
HUMANS NEVER LEFT AFRICA
WHITE PEOPLE ARE ALIEN DEMONS CREATED BY YAKUB

>>11262216
What optimism dude? Are you the type of retard who thinks the grass is greener on the other side? Chasing paradise type? That's gotta be the saddest type of person that exists. Seen Wolf's Rain? It was about that. In the end they ended up dying in the cold snow.

You're just chasing something that doesn't exist. And even if you did reach paradise, you would still be searching for something else because your type is destined for a sad death.

>>11262190
How is that a "nonsense analogy"

>be in Europe in 1400s
>let's sail across the ocean westward to find India
>no that's a waste time and money let's just make Europe better

>be in Eastern US in 1800s
>we should go west
>no that's a waste of time and money and we will most likely die
>let's just make the colonies better

We have seen this play out over and over, it's not at all a complicated concept. Where did all the retards on this board come from?

>>11262239
> Are you the type of retard who thinks the grass is greener on the other side?

The grass is greener in the future, and this has been proven for two hundred years. Your trolling is weak sauce and your thread will die now.

>>11261242
Practically free after establishing infrastructure, you can propel by accelerating rock particles electrostatically, which uses free rock and free electricity. Slow but steady. Besides, you don't really need to bring them all back, you can move production to space and only ship products.

>>11260862
>nothing but rocks
And one will eventually cross paths with us.

>>11260862
>how do we stop billionaires
Become one, spend on something else.

>>11262246
because in reality land (you ought to familiarize yourself with it), there are hard limits.

You might as well believe in the human ability to swim across the pacific ocean with no stops.

>>11262249
>Become one, spend on something else.
>If you can't beat Team Consume, then just join Team Consume

yeh nah

>>11262247
This isn't my thread, fool. The future is brighter. But that has nothing to do with this thread you goalpost moving faggot.

>>11262252
Now THAT is a stupid analogy. Space is a technical problem, not a human endurance problem.

>>11262262
energy (calories) does work. the human body is a machine, you fucking fool. The analogy is spot on scientifically, you're just another CONSUUUUUUUMER, that can rationalize literally anything to justify your bloated lifestyle.

>>11262268
What is your argument? People have already lived in space. What "hard limit" are you talking about? Why are you on this science board when you are as dumb as rocks, did you misclick on your way to /sp/ or /qst/?

>>11262272
If you weren't so fucking stupid, you might have learned something from my post.

Namely, that the human body is a machine that consumes energy and does work, and that there are hard limits on what that machine is capable of.

But whatever, keep believe in
>muh colonize the galazy, n sheit
>muh asteroid mining
>muh beer, I needanother beer
>muh bloated, muh truck
>muh growf

You fat fucking retard

>>11262279
>Namely, that the human body is a machine that consumes energy and does work, and that there are hard limits on what that machine is capable of.

That doesn't have anything to do with this thread, other than you being proud of yourself for having a 2nd grade understanding of thermodynamics and the human body. Calorie consumption wouldn't be the limit for swimming across the pacific, sleep would be.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/02/world/americas/diana-nyad-cuba-florida-swim/index.html

It's already been proven that we can support a human in space with enough calories to live indefinitely.

So let's review:
1. Your analogy is stupid
2. You have shown at best a 2nd grade education
3. You have and will move the goalposts again

>>11262284
You post a link to fucking CNN and call people stupid.

Now that's rich. OH im laughin now LOOOOOL

>>11262284
>link to cnn
You must be one of those fat retarded boomers that found its way to 4chan

(btw, i aint clickin that shit. Give my computer fuckin gonorrhea herpes)

>>11262285
>>11262295
Samefagged, and gave up on your argument, good work.

>>11262298
>Samefagged

That's some pretty impressive detective work there, retard

>>11260884
You can't establish who owns what without first deciding on a theory of entitlement. I see no reason to endorse a theory of entitlement that arbitrarily assigns profits based on the abstract notion of 'ownership in absentia' instead of any of the labor that went into producing the good or service.

Maybe you should stop focusing on stopping other people from doing things. And actually start doing things yourself.

>>11262321
>You can't establish who owns what without first deciding on a theory of entitlement.
One of the stupidest things posted all day, and that's saying something. Animals establish ownership of territory/females all the time, do you think they spend a lot of time theorizing?

>dude I like don't abide by your societal laws of consumerism and shit, corporations don't own me man

bruh they just wanna play with rockets let them

>>11260884
>imyping they Elon doesn’t get huge government subsidies (especially in his battery factory) and fatted government contracts.
It is partly the people’s money so that argument does not work.

>>11260862
Stop making these threads, you dark skinned tranny.
No one is going to give you any money. Stop asking. Instead, white people are going to the moon again, and I seriously hope you cry about it more.

>>11260862
Go and fix those problems yourself.

>>11260862
we'd still be in fuckin africa banging 2 rocks together because there are still problems to solve

>>11260862
>Space travel is pointless
>what's GPS?
>what's satellite communication?
>what are spy satellites?
>what's crop monitoring?
>what are space telescopes?
>what are the boundless metals in the asteroid belt?

>>11262246
Except the distances between oceans and land isn't in fucking light years. There is no feasible way to travel such vast distances. We've been looking at space for a long time and there's nothing out there. The only future is for robots to mine asteroids, but there is no future for putting actual humans on enormous, expensive spacecraft. And since robot asteroid miners and colonizers are the future we need to be dumping billions on artificial intelligence and robots, instead of stupid rocket fuel.

>>11262272
Nobody has been in space for longer than a year. There is evidence that cognitive abilities decrease in space. There is also radiation, solar flares, and debris in space. Humans weren't built for space. That also kills any analogy about sailing oceans because sailing in the sea doesn't put you into zero gravity. Get over it idiot.

>>11262587
so to demonstrate how space travel isn't pointless you list a multitude of things that aren't space travel.
brilliant. space nerds has shown us. time to pack our bags.

>>11262169
Wanna know how i know you didn't read the whole post? LOL

>>11260999
>Eventually the universe will probably die with heatdeath or a big crunch or something, but we might as well try and enjoy our time and make the most of it.
this anon gets it

>>11261264
>instead
That's where your wrong buddy

>>11260862
>>11260873
It's a good thing socialists like you aren't in power.

>>11262739
loliknorite

>>11262739
>>11262745
man fuck you guys

>>11260862
>Spot the commie tutorial mode
At least up the difficulty, you Commifornian faggot

>>11262751

>>11260862
>new world government gets set up
>takes money from billionaires to spend it on things that are useful to all of mankind
>spends it on space travel
>anti-space commies get ass blasted

>>11260878
fucking this

>>11262739
socialist countries are some of the best in the world. Capitalists are the ones ruining the planet since most of the damage comes from China and the US. Then capitalists will claim we need to flee because the planet is dying when they killed it in the first place.

>>11262801
Nah.

>>11262801

>>11260869
>muh earned it argument
earth doesn't have unlimited resources. let's say there is 2 trillion tons of extract-able iron on earth, what do we do? do we throw it into space just because a meme guy said so or do we use it for machinery, more useful and realistic research and humans

>>11262801
Socialist countries, lemme check:
North Korea
Cuba
Many Afrcain crapholes

All irrelevant. Also,
>china
>capitalist
China is fascist, you retarded platelminto

>>11262775
>takes money from billionaires to spend it on things that are useful to all of mankind
>makes a mistake, spends some money on a wasted effort
>can't admit fallibility, so refuses to admit effort was wasted
>doubles down spends extra money on wasted effort trying to make it succeed, spends more on propaganda to try and hide the mistake and waste
>makes it illegal to laugh government mistakes
>rounds up dissidents for reeducation
>murders everyone suspected of ever disagreeing with government
>accidentally murders everyone competent enough to point out legitimate mistakes in the process
>world burns while all available government funds are spent on either on propaganda telling everyone how fantastic and genius the all powerful government is or tracking down dissidents.

>>11262826
By socialist countries I meant to say countries with elements of socialism. Finland, Switzerland, Canada, pretty much any county in the EU. All of them have high standards of living and do not destroy the planet like capitalist shitholes.

>>11262821
Are you deliberately ignoring the argument of mining resources from sources in space or did you just not read it?

>>11262843
Not him but mining for resources will be done by robots. Yet we don't have the tech to run that operation nor are we spending billions on it. Instead we're memeing space colonization fantasies.

how do you fags deal with the fact that the closest habitable planet is 4 light years away?

>>11260862
The issue must be that they are sending away finite matter from Earth.
Don't pretend this should not be a highly prioritized issue now when private businesses are leaving orbit.

>>11260862
how did he fix his hair lads?

>>11262901
autism superpowers

>>11262838
>Finland, Switzerland, Canada,
You mean... Capitalist countries with some reasonably good social programs which work well due to their homogeneous culture and small population?
Because the OP is advocating for "seize the means of production" tier shit.

>>11261453
They solve the problem of limited resources (which is a pretty big problem)

>>11260862
Technology developed for space exploration ends up helping other fields.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/08/why-explore-space.html
Additionally, Earth's resources are ultimately finte. Climate change or no, our amount of finite resources and the Sun set a really HARD limit on our time unless we figure out space travel, in particular to the distant inhabitable planets (and possibly terraforming more into that condition). And the sooner we do it the sooner we can get loads of people off Earth so our home can recover.

>>11262932
I am OP. Those countries are not batshit capitalist failed states like China and the US. If the world functioned like one big Switzerland we wouldn't need to flee the planet - it's all thanks to the US and China and their billionaire degenerates.

>>11262158
everything is a waste of money if all you do is tending to a future tomb that nobody will be around to visit

>>11262973
You ignored most of what I wrote. Prove some of it wrong.

>>11262996
because i am not concerned with it, i just find your outlook retarded

if you're just going to die in a ditch, what does it matter if you do it rich or poor

>>11262838
>the myth of the socialist scandinavian
You don't know what socialist is about and you expose your own mental retardation
>socialist countries are all countries with elements of socialism
Therefore Japan is a socialist country since it has public schools.
Learn proper political theory, or go back to leftypol or /pol/, brainlet

>>11260862
Having the money to invest in something is just the first step.
Good luck healing cancer with your billions, while your manager assures you that money is all they ever needed to get going.

He's not lying: his subordinates told him. And their subordinates told them, etc.

Also good luck in keeping your wealth.

>>11261242
Utilize them on site to get more resources .

>>11262279
I agree with your argument against pointless consumerism. But what's wrong with spending some resources on space exploration? What's your ideal form of humanity?

>>11262954
>the world functioned like one big Switzerland
It's cute that you think this way.
Switzerland does not scale. Cultures divide over geography, and differing cultures are distrustful of each other. You cannot copy paste Switzerland around the world and get the same result. What will likely happen is we end up right back where we are now after lots and lots of strife.

>>11261051
You're right but they way you wrote this tells me you're a cringey faggot

>>11263013
you're the only country in the world who misuses the word socialist in your way, everyone else uses it in the way you're sperging out against

>>11263013
I already corrected myself, I didn't mean to say that they were socialist countries. And indeed if more countries were like Japan we wouldn't need to escape the planet. Get some comprehension skills before calling people brainlets.

>>11260862
>There is literally nothing but rocks out there. We need to fix the problems on earth before burning up money
Some of those rocks are metals, so outsourcing our productions from under the atmpsphere into space (to make our own rings more visible maybe) can solve some of ecology problems down here. Asteroid mining sounds like a great idea (and a true intent beyond precise engines they engineer as if for reusable rockets) though it's not my field of expertise, I'm only guessing.
Sending humans into space will be recognized as an atrocious idea, especially when humans will become potentially immortal (soon)
Going into space via robot-avatars, sending to our senses the visions and receiving from us communds to go and do something (with a ping, but also with safety)
Those martian caves are waiting for a orbiter sending there robotic snakes. Those snakes have to set transmitters at the edge of the cave and being attached to it by a firm cable, explore those caves as long as that cable lets it. Or to leave a cable hanging with another transmitter, so they can explore further whether being connected to that cable by some wi-fi or to use their own recording device when they're getting off the wifi range.

>>11263077
You are correct. "space exploration" will be led by remote controlled machines, and then by AI and nanobots. One day we may be able to beam our consciousness on lasers and control robotic avatars. It's all cheap and safe, unlike fantasies of human space colonization. The 2030' mars colonization and space tourism by humans is a meme from billionaires. Yet it gets all the hype instead of the actually feasible tech.

>>11260862
> I've never achieved anything of note in my life
> I deserve to be able to tell those that have achieved something what to do

How's about you first change yourself?

>>11260862
There's literally everything in space.
Literally ... Everything

>>11263145
I've achieved a great deal and will achieve a great deal more. Don't assume things about me faggot.

>>11263147
Everything = empty rocks separated by a lot of lightyears

>>11263184
>lot of lightyears
Goddammit kid, you're clueless.
Years in read-only for science is even more the must than for this board.

>>11260999
Good how do we make this happen

>>11262821
>2 trillion tons
fucking kek
there earth's crust is about 5% iron which means your 2 trillion tons is about 0.00000001% of what is mineable

>>11260862
>There is literally nothing but rocks out there.
You know that's not true.

>>11263251
I'll admit that asteroids can have valuable materials but my statement isn't far from reality. Nobody is going to want to be born on a shitty cramped spaceship on a multi-generational journey to visit some cold rock in outer space. Space colonization is a meme.

>>11260862
Your life is pointless too! Maybe you should kill yourself owo

>>11262410
Evidently, you are wrong.

>>11263271
nobody "wants" to be born anywhere at all, be it down here or on a space ship

>>11263325
you should vote against it if you don't like it

>>11263334
I would certainly rather be born here than on a cramped shithole. Can you imagine being born and sitting in a spaceship for your entire life so your great-great-great-grandkids can live on a useless rock? that is if the ship doesn't get hit by space debris

>>11263337
You don't know how I vote or what I like. This is /sci/. Get out.

>We need to fix the problems on earth before burning up money on unfeasible space travel fantasies.
True
>There is literally nothing but rocks out there.
Wrong

With our current technology it is entirely pointless. Until we develop new ways to power vehicles and make our spaceships fly we are literally just spraying cologne on shit to try and grasp at happiness by focusing our attention away from this miserable planet. Musk would be better off spending billions trying to expose secret government energy and flight secrets.

>>11263395
i don't need to, the point is already made without it

>>11263347
no you wouldn't, nobody chooses the circumstances of their birth, they can only whine and imagine a different life

>>11263442
Do you English my friend? I'm a little drunk. Should I be searching for the esoteric message between the lines?

>>11263226
Good luck mining that deep you stupid faggot

>>11262838
Those countries are all capitalist and in some cases more economically liberal than the US. Why are communists so dumb?

>>11262838
>>11262954
Switzerland and the others are capitalist you tremendous retard

>>11263038
LOL OH MAN WTF DID I JUST READ THE UNIVERSE IS INHERENTLY REPETITIVE LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>11263637
ok retard, even if you can only get 0.1% of it your 2 trillion tons is till fucking 0 you dumb nigger

I fucking hate luddites. They are worse than fascists or communists. At least those people have ideals, luddites just want us to stagnate, wither and die.

>>11263663
Cool story bro. Hey, could you go grab that wood box with the plutonium-239 sphere in it? Careful, its 12kg don't want to hurt your back haha. Don't worry about the radiation bro. I measured a 6kg sphere and it's not even that radioactive at all. Since the universe scales that means the 12kg sphere is perfectly safe too.

>>11261051
based

>>11263894
NO I READ THAT THE UNIVERSE IS INHERENTLY REPETITIVE IN ANOTHER THREAD AND SAW THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ILLUMINATE LOL

>>11263942
>>11263894
LOL SRY I DON'T ALWAYS FORESEE THE IMPLICATIONS OF MY WORDS

>>11263945
Here's that guide you were looking for.

>>11263955
Hello newfag.

>>11264218
Still gotta steer, retard.

>>11263181
Burden of proof is on you to prove your statement or it's automatically assumed false.

hurr durr, the earth is flat

>>11262272

>People have already lived in space. What "hard limit" are you talking about?

> I can swim across the school pool! I can swim across the Atlantic!

Better take some oxygen tanks next time you climb Mt Retard.

>>11265563
>Better take some oxygen tanks next time you climb Mt Retard.

>>11263442
Yes except we have a choice of not submitting generations of people on a space travel mission that will likely end in disaster. Get a brain

>>11262631

Unless we use gene technology to make a human-tardigrade hybrid. I for one, salute our future spacefaring Homo-Ramazzottius varieornatus descendants.

May they find a warm nutrient-rich muddy pond on some far away planet.

>>11265587
Why don't we just
>use gene technology to make a human-tardigrade hybrid

start a thread, man /sci/ loves that kind of shit

>>11263650
>I said socialist European countries
>Switzerland is a unique case
>other examples include Finland, Sweden, Denmark
>Photo proves they are socialist
Based retard

>>11265600

Would actually make for an interesting sci fi story. Use tardigrades to carry humans.
Dormant human DNA spliced into tardigrades. Also artificial DNA sliced in. Sent to planet x. Planetary lander carries incubation chamber thingy. Artificial DNA then activates. Carries instructions to separates Human DNA from tardigrade. Human DNA sex happens inside Great Mother Tardigrade. Gestates human babies, removed, raised and educated by robots. Adult humans form new human civilization on virgin planet light years away from earth. Worship God, the Great Tardigrade Mother. Discover FTL space drive. Return to Earth and discover Earthlings following false Gods. Cleanse the planet of all heresy with 11 dimensional fire.

>>11262178
>climbing a mountain is the same relativistic travel
ok.

>>11260862
bait threads belong on >>>/b/ faggot

>b-but its haard

So what? As long as its not proven impossible, humanity should try. The potential payoff is too great to ignore.

>>11260862
Altruism is illogical compared to knowledge gained by space travel.

>>11265583
it's better to be miserable for a while than to die forever, get a brain yourself

>>11260862
OK boomer.

>>11266072

>>11266073
Ok boomer

is anyone else suddenly thinking about boomerangs for some inexplicable reason

>>11260882
Kek

>>11261166
Meaningless statement

>>11263221
start a nuclear war between nato and china

>>11262158
>can’t live in space
Yes, we can and we do. ISS. You even admit that in the next sentence.
That’s after only 10-15 years of progress that we can live that long in space- progress will get exponentially faster.

>humans evolved to live on Earth and the matter of fact is that we need to fix shit on this planet
Yes, we started on Earth and now we are going beyond.
Forced dichotomy- we can fix issues on earth and still go into space.

>>11262175
This is just a contrarian/hipster viewpoint- why don’t you think through your opinions first?

>>11262252
Or just the human ability to build boats to cross the sea or building rockets to travel through space.

>>11262285
>>11262295
>>11262279
No arguments LOOOOOOOL

Lmaooo same niggas praising space exploration are the same ones that will get left behind on this wasteland planet when it's finally uninhabitable (if in our lifetime)

>>11260891
>$200 million profit asteroid is a better investment than $1.2 trillion profit asteroid

This chart is clearly tarded

>>11266140
>Lmaooo same niggas
Shieeee cuh this ain bluh pepol Twitter. We’z in the wrong neighbahood

>>11266146
Anon, if you can't read a chart properly you shouldn't throw words like tarded around

>>11261164
>Elon and Jeff are in their 20s

>>11261164

This is false.
t. 30 year old boomer.

>>11266447

Ok faggot...

>>11260862
Nonsense. We need to build a base on the moon to generate a new population of tall people with stretched out bodies that eventually cause organ failure.

>>11260862
They waste billions in literal faggotry and with Africans at least the rockets are cool

>>11263691
You're pulling numbers out of your ass and it's embarrassing.

>>11260862
It's as pointless as any other emerging research. You don't know what benefits it might have until it's done. It's a gamble, one that might take decades to see any winnings.

The truth is that money alone, at least on the scales that SpaceX is funding etc, won't help much for emissions etc. I think you underestimate how much money solving those problems would take. Put it this way: the problems are already solved, but the cost required is so high that no businesses or governments are comfortable paying for it. If a couple billion could solve the problems it would have been done already. It's hundreds of trillions of dollars.

>>11260862
In the ideal case, we will give nature three planets to prosper on instead of one.

>>11260862
sjw detected
kys

Space travel will be possible to a post-biological intelligence, but not for humans.

>>11266686

Not with that altitude.