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I have a question.
We know that galaxies are moving away from each other because of the redshift.
But have we ever observed two distant galaxies actually increasing in distance?
It shouldn't be hard given that they are moving fasted than the speed of light.
Hope I explained myself well enough

>> No.11249429

>>11249415
no, it is 100% bullshit and based only on redshift being correlated with distance.

>> No.11249449

>>11249429
That's what I thought

>> No.11249941

>>11249449

Also, stars would appear to accelerate away from each other even if space were expanding at a consistent rate everywhere. You can graph this yourself. Its like 5 year old elementary shit, and was the final nail in the coffin of Academia for me. Seeing their golden proof BTFO so easily was a huge holy shit moment. And thats even before you get to all the errors in the Michelson Morely experiement. Anyone who tries to teach MM experiement of accellerating expansion is a complete and total sheep, puppet brainlet

>> No.11249945

>>11249429
>>11249941
>i spend all my salary on tinfoil hats

>> No.11249951

>>11249941
>Michelson Morely experiement [sic] of accellerating [sic] expansion

Yeah that's not what that experiment was about.

>> No.11250262

>>11249951

Meant to type or, and it came out of. MM and accellerating spacetime are both literally retard tier and it is trivially easy to prove. Hard to even look at anyone with a straight face who says otherwise, but here let me try and help you save face before you tryong and talk shit and get BTFO. Go get some graph paper and just fuck around sketching diagrams of doubling grids, i.e. consistently expanding spacetime. Then plop some stars on your grid paper and expand it consistently. Even a fucking idiot like you will see that stars move away from eachother nonlinear DESPITE perfectly linear expansion you fucking brainlet.

>> No.11250268

>>11250262

To continue. How the fuck did your people not figure that shit out? How THE FUCK did your people give the okay to MM as well? Are you all just dumber? It would be okay if you fucks would at least admit when you make mistakes, but you retards start speaking in tounges and talking about 6,000 year old flat Earths before admiting that your precious MM and accellerating expandion are so, so ,SO fucking stupid from the perspective of people from nonretards That you might as well be saying that 1+1=3

>> No.11250272

>>11249945
>but here let me try and help you save face before you tryong and talk shit and get BTFO. Go get some graph paper and just fuck around sketching diagrams of doubling grids, i.e. consistently expanding spacetime. Then plop some stars on your grid paper and expand it consistently. Even a fucking idiot like you will see that stars move away from eachother nonlinear DESPITE perfectly linear expansion you fucking brainlet.

BTFO faggot.

>> No.11250277

>>11249945

And just like I said, this is 5-year-old intellect shit. Which makes you an actual fucking retard.

>> No.11250282

Anyone who thinks that spacetime is accellerating in expansion and never realized that linear expansion results in nonlinear point particle movement us an actual. Fucking. Retard. Academia BTFO with literal 5yearold elementary logic get fucked

>> No.11250287

Anyone who wants to argue against this I swear I will post the simplest diagram you have seen in your whole life and killshot your whole fucking worldview, dont tempt me. Try it yourself, first before eating shit. The fact that all of Academia hasnt spent even 5 minutes fucking around with graph paper BTFO their entire, fake, bullshit

>> No.11250289

Not 1 person in all of Academia spent even 5 minutes fucking around with expansion models on graph paper before opening their trap with their "heat death" bullshit. Lmfao. What a rip off.

>> No.11250292

>>11250289
calm down schizo

>> No.11250293

Im daring u faggots at this point. If i wake up tomorrow and no one dared me to post a diagram ending this accellerating spacetime cuckery then ill assume you all are intellectual pussies

>> No.11250327

>>11250287
>the simplest diagram
kek, comic book time

>> No.11250329

>>11250293
>If i wake up
you will, tin foil is itchy

>> No.11250332

Yeah but if you actually work out the numbers you'd know that the expansion on the stars is fucking tiny and completely countered by the gravity between the stars. We have measured galaxies moving away from each other since we've measured all the galaxies moving away from the Milky Way.

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>>11249429
>>11249941
>>11250262
>>11250268
>>11250272
>>11250277
>>11250282
>>11250287
>>11250289
>>11250293
holy fuck anon is on fire in this thread. this is a good day

>> No.11251106

>>11249415 no simply because of the vast distances between galaxies, we havent really had the chance to observe them moving much in the short amount of time that we've been looking as a species, but redshifting is a very good and reliable indicator of increasing distance, someone else replied to this thread saying that redshifting is bullocks, which is not the case at all

>> No.11251130

>>11250293
do it fag, shatter our worldview, right fucking now, do it or you're a pussy

>> No.11251164

>>11249415
>Trusting light
Only morons do that

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>>11251130

>> No.11251175
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>>11251171

Imagine a grid that doubles in size ever time step... after 3 tume steps the 3 stars have moved further apart in a nonlinear fashion despite linear space expansion.


Literally eat shit.

All of Academia BTFO with elementary logic, dear Watson

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>>11251130
Imagine a grid that doubles in size every time step: linear growth.. after 3 time steps the 3 stars on the grid have moved further apart in a NONLINEAR fashion despite linear space expansion.


Literally eat shit.

All of Academia BTFO with elementary logic, dear Watson

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>>11251130
Imagine a grid that doubles in size ever time step... after 3 tume steps the 3 stars have moved further apart in a nonlinear fashion despite linear space expansion.


Literally eat shit.

All of Academia BTFO with elementary logic, dear Watson

>> No.11251194

>>11251183

There is no rebuttal to this. Academia BTFO, period. And anyone of them could have figured this out first if they had spent even 5 fucking minutes fucking around with grid paper before they opened their fake fucking puppet gobs

>> No.11251202

And dont even get me started on Michelson Morely, all lf Academia should commit seppuku for that travesy. This entire society top to bottom is a fucking lie being run barely functional idiots

>> No.11251212

>>11251183
we don't know what kind of linear true space expansion linear is, exponentation could be linear

>> No.11251219

>>11251183

If you dont understand the significants of the ele-fucking-mentary diagram I posted for you, the grid is doubling at a consistent rate every time step, the dots represent celestial objects with white dot being our reference. The 2 black dots are stars of varying distances from our reference. Notice that despite consistent, linear, spacetime expansion, the furthest dot is ACCELLERATING away from us relative to the near dot.

Literally eat fucking shit.

>> No.11251240

And Im sorry I'm so angry. Maybe you dont understand what its like to be able to unravel reality this easily and have to watch fucking idiots tweedledeeing around all the time. These complete and utter fucking faggots are given billions in funding while getting BTFO with the most simple fucking diagram, and meanwhile I could literally LITERALLY fucking solve AGI in under a year with a budget of $1 mil tops. The gov should be fast tracking people like me after I scored 140+ IQ in my school detention because the teachers thought I was retarded for not paying attention to their faggotry - they were teaching retard shit while at home Inwas reading Gobel Escher Bach - you would think my IQ score would shut them the fuck up, but no, they just put me on meds. Fuck this entire system top to bottom.

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>>11249415
>We know that galaxies are moving away from each other because of the redshift.
It's just one of many interpretation of it, promoted exclusively to support abrahamic narrative.
Have a better one:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1402.0354
or find something better for yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_cosmology

>> No.11252239

>>11251181
You actually think the scientists didn't take that into account?
Holy shit you're a prime dumbfuck.
And your autistic scribbling is redundant, just use the link
https://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo?t=10m

>> No.11252243

>>11251181
>time grows linearly
>space grows linearly
>WHY IS DISTANCE NOT LINEAR OVER TIME HURRR

>> No.11252912

>>11249415
>>11249429

god i L O V E /sci/ so much. it's so different to discuss science anonymously, when people's livelihood and career cannot be ruined by them questioning something

>> No.11252924

>>11251219
>doubles every unit of time
>linear expansion
?

>> No.11252925

>>11249415
>But have we ever observed two distant galaxies actually increasing in distance?
Yes.

>> No.11252929

>>11249941
>making reference to a scientific experiment that has nothing to do with the subject he's talking about

>> No.11252931

>>11252925
[citation needed]

>> No.11253025

>not a single valid answer in the thread
Impressive t b h

>> No.11253468

>>11252931
Not really, this is all over Google.

>> No.11253471

>>11253025
See
>>11252924
Which btfo OP easily and forever.

>> No.11254721

>>11252239

U gunna link to a part proving that this was thought of before or iz u a bitch?

>> No.11254733

Starting to tink not 1 of u iz even smart enough to undertand the significantz of the diagram.

Academia sayz that space expansion is accellerating because of da starz. This anon proved wit da most simple diagram eva, so simple dat even a por jamacan can undertand, dat stars accellerate away from each otha even with consistent linear expansion, Nobel Wen? No me go fuk Rihanna. Have a good night slaves. So blessed that Jesus da Jew enslaved you all on dis Christmas. Hurray 4 slavery and Jesus. Me love being a slave

>> No.11254735

Don u all love being slaves? Hurray 4 Jesus da Jew and slavery. Jesus say you all must be slave 4 him an u r. Yay. U a slave. U probably don even know it. Yay slavery

>> No.11254737

I love having to post science on anonymous forum so my slavemasta don find out.

U all jere on anon forum becaus u slaves 2. U jus 2 stupid to know it.

Free people don need post anon on anon board cuz they no hmget in trouble with massa for being free, slaves

>> No.11254740

You all are literally slaves. Literally. I dont think you even get this, not even ironically.

Free people dont need anonymous forums to talk about science, you slaves.

>> No.11254742

Rome was free. You all let it be enslaved. And you have been enslaved for generations without even know it, or even knowing what freedom even is.

>> No.11254743

They stuff you with drugs and tell you that your misery is your fault, but it is pain of suppression and bondage. Yiu have lived with it so long, for generations, you don't even know what it means to feel good naturally, or to be free.

>> No.11254747

They tell you the West is free, but if you speak the truth they take your food and shelter from you. You are a slave. You cannot even say that men are men and women are women.

>> No.11254748
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>>11254735
Why are to so unhappy with your life anon? did you have a crush and she turned you down? was she a cosmologist?

>> No.11254751

Everything they tell you about science is a lie. When they told you about the aether and the rotational model of atoms - atoms being like small galaxies - these were truths. But they took these from you. Now they are coming to take evolution and germ theory and climate science and even our accomplishments in the moonlanding. They want you to know nothing, and they are almost there.

>> No.11254766

>>11254751

So what are you implying Anon, that we should vote for UBI or something? So that the government cannot just take away our food and housing if we say or do something they dont like? You think it makes me a slave just because if I say, for example, that men and women are biologically different and I dont like being 42 y/o and childless because I have biological needs, that I will be backlisted and homeless? You think that make me a slave just because I selflessly provide for my bosses family and his 7 children while being childless myself? All have you know, I love all 57 genders an because of the environment situation I will not be having children, this is what the boss told me and he is right!