/sci/ - Science & Math

Mech eng. Undergrad
Mcgill canada
0.

So im still a student
But here are a few tips ive heard from a few senior engineers
A. If you want a good raise apply to a another job and tell them that your looking for lets say 10% over your previous job.
Because raises take to long to come
B. Have at least one international company on your cv it acts like a green card if you want to apply to any other company. Ex. Nasa, microsoft, tesla etc..
C. While switching jobs is a quick way to get a raise. Its not a good idea to go job hopping. You seem unloyal if you switched 5 jobs

I got a degree in computer science. What would cause more butthurt: calling myself a scientist, or calling myself an engineer?

Where my metallurgy bros at?

>>11243361
Are you employed to design software or write programs of any kind? If so, I dont care if you call yourself an engineer. You're absolutely not a scientist.

>>11243391
OK so I'll call myself a scientist.

>>11243398
Epic

>>11243398
Boss

Electronic eng
Utn argnetina
0,1

>>11243513
Got any tips

>>11242645
Physics Undergrad/Applied Physics Masters
MIT/Caltech respectively
15 years as a systems engineer

Don't look for a company that you like, look for a boss you can tolerate. Companies could give two shits about you but if you find a good boss they can often drag you upwards with them. Also learn how to talk to business people, because no matter where you go your bosses' boss is probably a business person and it can come in handy.

>tfw left engineering cúckoldry for data science
>tfw twice the pay in a lower CoL area than engicúcks
>tfw my work has actual value instead of installing air conditioners
Stay mad plebs lol.

>>11243757
>has engineering degree
>installs AC units
anon, I don't think you understand how this is supposed to work

>>11242645
What's real engineering like?

Im a software engineer and i come into the office every day to solve impossible problems in impossible timeframes on shoestring budgets.

On top of that, everything i learn this year will probably be obsolete in two years again, and the only transferable skills i can keep are a gut feeling any my potentially diminishig ability to learn new shit faster.

I imagine real engineering to be so easy, you go to your office, you know what you're doing, and what you read in a book today will still apply in 20 years.

What's it really like?

>>11242653
1.Qatar university
2.undegrad first semester

I'm worried that i won't get much opportunities because my university isn't high ranking , but it's abet accredited though , does this matter ?
I'm also having a hard time choosing a major , i see pros and cons in every one of them

>>11243942
>impossible problems in impossible timeframes on shoestring budgets.

As an undergrad, I'm scared of having to problemsolve for a living, i can usually solve the textbook exercices but anything that's super hard (AIME , IMO , integration bees ,oxford math) i don't even bother with.

>>11243942
It's exactly the same, except when things fail people can die. You also can't go back and fix things later with an update.

>>11243788
The majority of mechanical engineers end up in HVAC. Sorry bro.

>>11242653
>B. Have at least one international company on your cv it acts like a green card if you want to apply to any other company. Ex. Nasa, microsoft, tesla etc..
Oh good advice, let me just do that.

>>11243987
choosing a major ?
what do you mean arent you an engineer

>>11244259
working on new and optimizing hvac systems, yes.
installing hvac systems by hand, no.
>>11244402
Getting an internship for 4 months isn't impossible i used NASA and Tesla as optimal examples, their are other reasonable companies such as Pratt & Whitney and Lockheed Martin

making 68k in the bay area FUCKING SUCKS. After taxes, I'm not even breaking 4k a month. I want to move on to a higher paying job, is software engineering the best way to do so?

engineering is the best. never drop out and keep working on engineering. it pays way better than finance which is oversatured with zhangs and pajeets. finance is soul crushing work with low pay meanwhile engineers earn a lot and work in much better jobs

>>11245140
> it pays way better than finance which is oversatured with zhangs and pajeets.

sure about the first part, to an extent. The second part? I'm guessing you're not an engineer yourself or are a freshman in uni if you're saying this...

I’ve had no luck finding decent work with my biology degree and I’m considering going back to school and getting a bachelors in biological engineering for a chance at better at better jobs/pay. I have a decent amount of the required courses done already so it shouldn’t be as bad going in with no credits. How stupid or worth it is this if I work my ass off and prioritize getting internships?

>>11245223
Engineering is the way to go. Its real world application of what all the PhD scientist pull up with. unlike what a lot of /sci/ anons think a science degree cant always get you that dream job in research with your professors.
Where as engineering wont give you your dream job as a head designer at tesla or nasa but your sorta assured a job.

Getting internships is key to getting a job later.
Most companies dont care about your 3.9 or 4.0.
maintain above a 3.0 or 3.2 and your almost always fine.
Next up, internships are like the testing field. Engineering field is broad. Example as a mechnical engineer, i can work in aero, auto, hvac,FEA, etc. there are a many number of fields. So when doing the internship you are basically getting a quick taste of what these fields are like while also seeing what its like to work in large companies and start ups.
Finally i highly advise you to join some sort of team of students, normally there are a number of groups such as racing teams, building bridges teams etc. by doing so you increase your chances of getting an internship since every other student has done these courses already so if you want to stand out do something engineering related.
P.S: If you have difficulty getting an internship in the summer its normal its a lot more competitive since everyone doesn't want to miss a semester to work, and would rather finish early and all that bullshit, but don't let that phase you get an internship during your fall and or winter semester after you've done your first year. and with your other bachelors you should be highly desired.
Goodluck anon become an engineer.
BIG TIP:
ENGINEERING IS ABOUT MAKING THE RIGHT ESTIMATIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS. YOUR ARE MAKING EDUCATED GUESSES ALL THE TIME. SO DONT APPLY WHAT EVER YOU LEARNED IN YOUR BIO DEGREE TO ENGINEERING IN TERMS OF PROBLEM SOLVING

>>11244962
But like picking an engineering major (mechanical,chemical,electrical...etc)

>>11244009
>except when things fail people can die.
people die all the time because of software failures

>You also can't go back and fix things later with an update.
citicorp tower comes to mind

Guys what do you think about Robotics/Robotics and Automated Systems degrees? They're chartered.

>>11242645
What math classes do electrical engineers usually take? Is complex analysis usually the last one that is required?

>>11243717
wow

>>11245140
Software industries are also filled with Indians.

>>11244966
>installing hvac systems by hand, no.
Lol, I've got bad news for you. Also just a heads up: you'll be earning less than the union construction laborers on the job site who never went to college.

>>11245223
You will need a PhD with either of those degrees to get a jon.

>>11245244
Thanks for the detailed response, it gives me some hope I can do it, even though it might be a few more years of schooling before that happens.

>>11245637
What makes you say that?

>>11245984
"biological engineering" is a very niche/research-oriented field. Nobody in their right mind would hire an undergrad to do that kind of work.

>>11245140
fucking lmao

>Didn't get any internships
>Graduating from mechanical engineering in the spring

>>11245634
Everyone who says shit like that has never worked a physical job. I work at a chemical plant with operators and it's the same shit. Yeah it's cool that they can do a 2 year process tech degree and get $30/hr starting and all the overtime they want so they end up clearing $100k easy, but that's by working 12 hour rotating shifts as much as 13 days on with 1 day off. They're all overweight and fucked up with broken marriages from doing shift work for decades and by their 50s their backs and knees and everything else is fucked and if they lose their jobs nobody else wants to hire their busted old ass.

Meanwhile I get to sit in my office fucking around in excel and sending emails all day. I work regular day hours and get weekends off. All the operators want their kids to go to school and be engineers because it is absolutely so much better.

>>11245223
if you have cash why not get this degree https://www.kettering.edu/programs-and-degrees/applied-biology

>>11246445
if you want to live the dream i traded, get this (you probably only have to do labs)
& then get a paleontology degree

then become a field biologist/paleontologist masterrace

>>11245223
but someone i know is a biologist but mostly a field biologist/documentarian
you could be the guy who goes on expeditions

>>11246454
>>11246445
I tried to force>>11246461
to go to Kettering but got "I've got a master's degree I'm not going back for a bachelor's."
Then she takes people to look at Alaska and a bear starts throwing rocks at the group

>>11243994
Just imagine ill defined problems with no actual solution.

30% of the problem is finding out what the actual problem is

>>11246651
So it's an entirely different thing than school problems?

>>11246259
literally this!
A lot of people don't take into account all of the perks an engineering degree gives you can keep increasing your salary easily as opposed to a technician who is more than likely capped, even after years of experience.

>>11246259
>>11246842
There was a 60-something senior engineer on the site who was near retirement, and I he would complain on an almost daily basis how the tradies were still making a shitton more money than he was. Face it: engineering is the new meme degree.

>>11243717
Go on then, how do you talk to business people? I assume just avoid technical jargon as best you can? What else?

>>11247278
making more with overtime yea.

>>11245469
Undergrad EE here,
Typically, math up to linear algebra and differential equations (1st and maybe 2nd order) is required. Some curriculums will have you take other maths like discrete and complex&vector analysis depending on what electives you select. Also, some classes like signals&systems will have you learn things like Fourier and Laplace transforms

>>11247652
No, that was base pay. I even straight up asked them what they were making base, and it was twice my salary. Get it through you head. They don't have to work as hard either, and have paid hour long lunches and mandated breaks every couple hours. One of them bragged about not showing up to work for a week and still getting paid.

>>11247794
The chances are slim that you will actually use any of that after graduating.

>>11242645
1. Chemistry (done some ChemE/process chemistry/manufacturing chemistry work though)
2. US
3. Going on 3 in industry (additional 6 if you include Hazmat experience and a 4 year degree + master's electives)

Tips for you newbies to the working world.
>Nobody gives a fuck about your GPA
>Connections are important
>Job hunting is more about researching companies than shotgunning resumes
>You're not above blue collar work until you have at least a year in industry
>A strong referral from someone you did research under is better than an A on a physics test
>>11246156
Take a machinist job. You'll be overqualified but if you tell the company you'd like to work on the floor for a year or so (maybe move through an apprenticeship if your country works that way) prior to applying for true engineering roles, they'll probably hire you. Furthermore, engineers who have relevant manufacturing experience are always much more valuable.
>>11248021
>They don't have to work as hard either
That is entirely dependent on the company. Some places will crack the whip on their white collar employees, others will on their working stiffs. 100% is based on the culture, structure, and industry.

>Bachelor's in Electrical and Electronics Engineering
>Temple University / USA
>1 year

I've been doing controls since graduating, in the material handling industry. Designing systems, writing PLC programs, reviewing system drafts and hardware designs, consulting, etc.

This industry seems ripe for the taking for anyone currently in EE without any idea what to do after graduating. There is a HUGE demand for PLC/controls guys in material handling right now. Amazon and FedEx in the US are expanding like crazy, and the bottleneck is finding system integrators to update their existing systems, and bring up their new ones.

>>11246445
Guy from >>11245223 here. Damn I wish I had heard of that program in my undergrad, seems a lot more involved than the one I took. Not sure why I would do it if I already have a biology degree though.

>>11246454
I was thinking about that at one point, but the paleontology professor I got semi-close with left for another college before I started working for her. I’ll consider pursuing something like that, cause man learning about dinosaurs/birds all day would make 5 year old estatic.

>>11248154
where in the USA?

>>11248114
>That is entirely dependent on the company
No, it's entirely dependent on whether or not you're elligible to join a union. Tradies have powerful unions so they make bank without a college degree. Engicucks go into debt and then work themselves to death so that their business managers can buy another lambo.

>>11249145
why do you keep pretending a technicians job is superior to an engineering job as if the engineering degree is some sort of humanities degree. You realize engineers earn pretty high salaries, so your whole argument of going into debt is ridiculous. Technicians are capped even with 10+ years of work exp., they get minimal raises if they get certifications and stuff, but an engineers salary keeps increasing exponentially as they gain experience.

I find it sad you're trying to say a technician's job is the same as the engineers. This sounds like engineer school drop out cope.

>work themselves to death so that their business managers can buy another lambo
you realize this also means technicians are worked to death right? lmao fucking retard.

>>11249015
I'm on the east coast and there's tons of companiess in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, etc. Can't speak for the rest of the country

>>11246022
Uhm i think your retarded.
look at the bio-med field

>>11249145
Most chemical plants are concentrated around the gulf coast in right to work states. Union plants exist, but I've only worked at non-union ones and every operator I've ever met is a proud union-hating Republican.
>work themselves to death
Have you ever done shift work? Yes, most operator schedules average around 40 hours a week without overtime. However, that's with 12-hour shifts and being on-call for half of your days off. The Dupont schedule gives you a nice full week off each month, but it also includes a 72-hour week. And of course you'll be expected to do a shitload of overtime.

Math major with a computer science minor reporting in
America
0 experience

How do I not end up a python code monkey?

>>11242645
Computer Science and Economics Double majored. Graduated May 2019.

NYC, USA. Graduated from a CUNY.

1 YOE. Making ~100k in low cost of living area.

Ask away.

>>11249497
Personal projects, hackathons, potentially a bootcamp.

Leetcode grind and apply to every fortune 500 company with a tech department.

>>11249248
Ok kiddo.

>>11249487
I'm referring the primary field of employment for mechanical engineers (HVAC).

Is dsp a decent career path? Everything else that I like seems oversaturated.

>>11249773
There's minors in energy tech an civil engineering for HVAC, even whole ass degree programs in some universities. Why would anyone hire a mechanical engineer for the job.

Out of the 50+ mechanical engineers I know, the most common occupation is some variant of CAD monkey.

>>11248023
Posting from my phone

Yeah agreed. I’ve done a year of industry so far (co-op school, software/pcb layout&design) and the most math I’ve encountered is basic algebra and a tiny bit of stats. Looking to go into RF/analog domain, so maybe I’ll encounter higher level maths

>>11250024
Sorry bro, hope you like air conditioners.

CompSci BS and MS here. Looking to go back and finish off either EE BS or ME BS. Always was envious of the foundations in physics that engineers got and the broad applicability of their skills and strong foundation. Any advice? I want a BS for the breadth or I would take the prereqs and go for MS.

CompEng reporting in. How do I read software? Specifically, when I'm given a source repository how do I penetrate it? Autotools is making my life hell

>>11251145
so spend 2+ years in school just to get a BS in EE? Why didn't you just get your MS in EE if you wanted it so bad? Sounds like a waste of time to me.

>>11251153
Why are you bothering with autotools? Unless you're porting to a new platform (which I've unfortunately had to do recently), you shouldn't mess with it. There's a reason most people just check the configure script into the repo after it's been generated.

And first start by reading documentation, if there is any. Get a sense of the high level architecture that you can draw on a whiteboard with boxes and arrows and such, not yet at the level of individual functions, types, etc. Then figure out what the important types and functions are and how they interact with each other and decide what you want to focus on. For sufficiently large projects, there isn't a single person in the world who knows how everything in there works, so trying to understand the whole project from the bottom up is simply unrealistic.

Learn to ignore implementation details as you reason about the system as a whole, as this is how good software systems are designed internally anyway. If you're lucky enough that the project has a reasonably clean build system like GN, meson, etc., you can glean a lot of information about the general workings of various parts just by looking at the dependency graph. Does the program/library use HTTPS? Then look for stuff that depends on OpenSSL or similar. Etc etc...

But I've been spoiled by working on things that generally make sense. For bad software, just look for which files have the most lines. Odds are you'll find something like SmartSetController.cls that's 30,000 lines and nothing else gets the same amount of attention.

Any /sci/entists have advice for a first year CS major?

>>11251629
I have classes paid for by work, and it wasn't a priority enough in the past to change course then, so I figured if it's free and I don't take classes I'm leaving money on the table whereas if I go for it, I can scratch this itch. MS without BS can't be a PE in USA, and the filler courses for an MS wouldn't offer the breadth I'm going for that a full ABET accredited BS would (which I said in my first post but more short handed.) Also, merry Christmas.

>>11251962
Thank you for your long and eloquent response. I'm messing with Autotools because I'm trying to fork GNU / Unix userspace tools. In particular, at the moment the "Dash" Bourne-compatible shell.

So, what do they expect you to know after a year of working in the industry? Because it's been a year and I don't feel like I know anything particularly transferrable, I guess I know more about tools and stuff. All I kinda did was grunt work. Not to mention at this point, I forgot a lot of what I learned in college.

I still don't know what a real engineering job is like. Could I be somehow worse off now than before I had a job?

>>11254173
>I still don't know what a real engineering job is like.
That is a "real" engineering job, anon. You're just waking up to the fact that it's a meme. All that stuff you learned in school has nothing to do with actually working as an engineer.

>>11242645
I actually have a degree in Engineering AMA

1. Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering
2. South Africa
3. 0 lol busy w/ Master's

Is engineering a meme?
I wanted to do CS for the money but I don't like the subject. Is there any other way?

>>11255714
it's not a meme
pretty stable employment
you're not likely to get balls off the wall rich though unless you go the entrepreneurial route like anything else

i have a very cushy government job that involves little to no work and i make about 80k/year

im 3 years out of school so that's pretty good

just look at where you live and what industry is there
civil is a pretty safe bet as there's construction everywhere

HVAC Tech here, all i have is EPA License to work with refrigerant and couple certs like N.A.T.E (North American Technician Excellence)

>>11242645
Anyone got a recommendation or know any good books on designing mission critical and hazardous systems? Preferably with some sort of connection to Software Engineering, but if it's a good general book that's fine too.

>>11245223
>got a degree
>can't get a job
>I know, I'll get a different degree!
The problem isn't your degree, it's that you cannot learn by repetition at the most basic level.

>>11248021
A guy I took my MSF course with was getting paid $52/hour as a heavy equipment operator. I get paid $39/hour with an engineering PhD.

How does one verify the validity of a model in some MATLAB code on your own?

>>11256459
>I get paid $39/hour with an engineering PhD.
lmao, how did you manage that? I got up to $42/hr back when I was an intern

>>11256466
I don't live in California and work for a shitty non-profit.

>>11242645
CS vs software engineering what has the best advantage in the future which should i do ???

>>11256862
they're identical straight outta uni, SE might have some more possibilities for jobs you can apply to, but for the most part any SE job will accept CS and any CS job will accept SE. If you plan to do graduate school then it will depend on your area of interest / your goals in life as to which you should choose. In terms of long term value SE has the advantage of letting you become a professional engineer which can open a lot of doors for you especially if you have an interest in critical systems. CS has more short term value as you have more freedom in course selection and the programs are typically more catered to what you want so you may end up in better internships or know enough to get a niche job right out of school.

In terms of actual school work, you're looking at 5 courses/term in CS with 3-4 electives every year, usually increasing as you get into the later years. These electives also tend to be whatever you want. SE on the other hand is 6 courses/term with 1-3 electives a year, that amount will remain constant and you will only be able to select from a predefined list. You will also need to take many courses on things that may not interest you such as chemistry, material sciences, physics, ethics, etc

>>11243987
There is not a lot of universities in Qatar, so ranking doesn't matter. Network is the key. You can get a job easily through reference

>>11254811
So what do engineers do?

>>11257486
thanks mate what do u think of embedded systems engineering

I'm almost 30 and hate my career. I make into the six figures but I want to do something else that pays 70 plus after a couple years. Is it worth going back to college? What's even worth it these days?

>>11258673
if you want to do that then an SE degree opens you up to that more. Most embedded jobs accept SE, CE, or EEs. idk about your school, but mine had SE split into 3 groups: general, embedded, and biomedical so if you have the option embedded is what you want as it will go more indepth instead of just a few courses covering it.

>>11252152
What about getting an MS after a BS in ET? I have a school near me that only has ABET accredited ET, and I cannot afford to move. I know that BS ET cannot get a PE, but it can get the EIT in most every state. Is it possible to go the ET road and get the EIT and go to work and get the MS in Eng while working and then get the PE?

>>11242645
Mechanical Engineering undergrad.
United Kingdom.
2 years experience (summer internships + year in industry].

I've been accepted to Imperial College London for my masters. It's in aerospace, is it worth it if I want to work on fighter jets? It'll cost all of my savings.

>>11256466
No you weren't.

>>11242645
Bachelors in Micro/nanoelectronics engineering
USA
Going on my 4th year in semiconductor industry, just promoted to senior eng role focusing on thin films. All I do is statistical analysis, DOEs, process optimization, etc. I feel more like a statitician than anything. Recently been rereading undergrad textbooks and some graduate level material in fears that I'm going to start forgetting actual physical concepts.

1 undergrad chemE
2 brazil
3 zero

Currently fucked up. Did a lot of personal projects, learned a lot on my own, tried to be proactive and learn leadership skills because thats what every company says the want. Anyway couldnt find an internship in the last 3 years and now have my last chance this semester. I'm preparing my acting and will lie 100% because being honest will make me unemployed forever.

1) PhD in computer engineering
2) MIT
3) I have about 3 years of experience,. I did an internship with the DoD my junior year and got a job offer from them immediately after I graduated.

I think one thing Engineers overlook is the importance of EQ rather than IQ. A bit of social decorum and decent communication skills goes a long way.

>>11259410
you can't get your employer to pay for it? That sounds like an expensive gig that you could, potentially, move into with your just mech. eng degree.

>>11260795
I've never heard of a nanoelectronics engineering degree. Sounds pretty based though.

>>11260875
good point. Those days of the engineer stuck in his cubicle are kind of rare now a days. Having decent communication and social skills can really boost your career prospects.

1) Currently in CS Master's, finished CS Bachelor's
2) Georgia Tech
3) I've had 5 internships, so that translates to roughly 1.5 years of experience I guess.

This thread really humbles me and makes me realize how many stupid people are out there. Why do people have to be told that internships are valuable and are useful in landing jobs? Why do people graduate and not realize, beforehand, that getting internships or doing side projects is important to getting ANY job? There are people IN THIS THREAD that are seriously dumbfounded that real-world engineering problems/jobs are completely different from the work in their textbook...really?

At this point, I just assume anybody that has a degree in Software Engineering, instead of Computer Science, is a neet living in their parents' basement that regularly visits /v/. Same with people that do CS and then go into "systems engineering" or "embedded systems". I know this is a huge generalization, but I've never met people that go into those fields that aren't out-of-touch fat people.

You guys just want to be told a lie and the real world is what 4chan is telling you, but in reality it's so different and you need to work hard to show you're smart. You people are probably the same people that claim you failed high school math and Calc 2 because you "just didn't apply yourself", and then make threads about how to get back on track because the system failed you.

Why do so many people need to be given advice on the most obvious stuff, such as landing an internship, or landing a top internship, or the type of hard work and talent that it takes to reach the top? There's one guy from MIT here, and another from Caltech, and those are probably the only people in this thread I respect.

You guys need to stop gloating about your 35$/hr mechanical engineering job making 70k per year. That's mediocre at best. Also, no, apprenticeships are not respectable unless you want to work at low-tier engineering companies the rest of your life.

>>11258732
Rather not say the school directly, but it's top 20. I'd be going for BS in an engineering discipline directly -- most likely EE or MechE.

>>11261296
>I've never heard of a nanoelectronics engineering degree. Sounds pretty based though
It was pretty much a meme mixture of EE and materials science. concentrated alot on modern cmos design and fabrication.

>>11261945
>CS
Yeah I didn't read any of that but this is a thread for engineering not mobile game enthusiasts.

>>11261945
You wrote all those words and you made no points. Your post boils down to
>get internships

>>11243994
>I'm scared of having to problemsolve for a living
Then what the FUCK are you doin here
>>11246022
Pharma companies hire undergrad bio majors like crazy, especially in the production field. I.e. lab techs, process scientists+engineers. Having undergrad research or internship experience is needed though if you want to stand out.
>>1124727
That guy probably spent 40 years complaining rather than applying himself or looking for better opportunities at companies that aren't shit

>>11262229
I could redpill this entire thread but I only had 2000 characters available so I decided to call out the people making dumb posts for being lazy or near-sighted with their career.

>>11262352
you're fucking retarded bro

What are methods of refracting and manipulating light, from an engineering point of view? Optical engineering basically.
I want to use the refractive properties of a (glass) sphere for a project but putting lots of glass spheres on my surface, while working for a prototype, seems far from the most efficient way to do this. Is there a way to maybe... cast a slab of some acrylic or glass that will refract beams as if there were glass spheres in a specific arrangement in it or something?
I want to make a holographic screen, the prototype already worked.

To EE grads working in industry: how much of school do you actually use in real life?

>>11263745
more importantly can you learn most of the skills you need from AoE

>>11258700
is their any way a SE can go further in MSc or phd in aerospace enginerting like avionics software design

>>11243398
Based

>>11263745
From a skills perspective, most engineering jobs require a high school diploma, but that won't stop HR from asking for 10 years of experience and a PE license.

>>11242645
Nuclear, DOE/DOD certs through NUPOC, almost 10 years. Never got around to going back to school, it's not necessary for my work.

Been doing RADCON for years, got certified QAI, EPA and welder so I certify and inspect welds in newcon navy carriers/sub primary systems for close to 120k annually w/ my vet benefits and disability on top of that.

Public sector < private sector, but I'm killing it compared to peers my age. Between disability and dividends returns, I don't even have to work if I want to live spartan.

>>11265111
this is pretty based, are you in your 30's or what? Would having a degree have cut down your years of exp to get to those earnings or no?

bump

>>11243398

the only real scientist in this thread

TLDR: Can you access MIT lecture material in public?

Anyone from MIT here? My uni consistently ranks within top 10 but I want to compare it to the famous MIT. Is there a way to publicly access lecture material? In my uni I'd say at least half of the lectures you can access the material from public, just navigate to the course catalog and click on the link for lecture material. Only sometimes it's password or network restricted. For MIT the course catalog is dogshit and the only material I found is from online courses or open course ware lectures from over 10 years ago.

I ask because I never studied much. Passing exams was ez. I am about to graduate, only writing my theses. So I haven't done any lectures in almost a year. In my free time I want to refresh the most important stuff. Material in my uni is great but maybe the material from a different highly respected uni will turn it into more than just repetition, maybe it will teach me new perspectives.

>>11243717
>>11260875

>>11266532
kek

>>11264174
You could look into a grad program in aerospace engineering with a specialization in control systems

im taking the nuclear, electrical, & chem pe's in 3 months

>>11265111
Congrats on the disability goy

>>11262352
what's the redpill?

>>11265207
Nah, I could have done nightschool/online for a degree, but I don't have the motivation to sink a fuckton of money into something that might not pan out better than what I already have. I'm living good enough as it is without one.

Granted the navy was shit and I wanted to kill myself on the daily when I was still a nuke.

>>11267353
early onset arthritis from constant ladder climbing, TBI from a HPAD check valve explosion, sleep apnea from the submarine environment, hearing loss from the turbines and HPAC/LPAC.

Bought my claims adjuster a 6 pack.

>>11265207
>>11268036
Forget to address the rest.
Yeah, turning 30 soon. Joined when I was 19 and did 6 years active duty, took a 5 month vacation when I got out to decompress and job hunt and have worked shipyard since.

>>11267750
1) If you want an internship, you need to put in the work and apply to over 500 companies when you're a freshman. For some reason, freshmen think you can just get an internship after applying to like 20 companies.
2) Cover letters are the biggest scam and most boomer thing ever.
3) Getting an internship after your first internship is a lot easier.
4) Take name over money/location the first time you have the chance. It'll open the doors afterward.
5) Reputation of the school matters. Stop giving yourself dumbass excuses and saying you'll save money by going to a crappy top 50 state school when you have the chance to go to a top 15 school for more money. If you truly want to be at the top of your field, and you give that up to go to a top 50 state school, then you will never be at the top of your field because you clearly don't have what it takes. If you're truly smart enough to get into an elite school, you will make more than enough money to make up that cost difference by the time you die.
6) If your full-time salary isn't at least 45$/hr, it's not "decent"/"good", no matter where you live. Stop trying to make 70k annual sound better than it is.
7) To get into the school of your choice for grad school or undergrad, name recognition. For grad school, you need at least 3 publications for a top school. Stop letting people tell you non-top-10 schools for graduate studies make them happy. They aren't high achievers. And stop letting people tell you they got into an elite school like MIT without any publications. This is only true if the advisor is literal shit-tier or if the student had some insane nepotism with their undergrad advisor. It's a trick.
8) Unless your PhD advisor is actually pure cancer, after being accepted to a top school, take that top school. Nobody gives a fuck who your advisor is. They just care you got into an elite school. You can switch your advisor later on.
9) PhD salaries are NOT as bad as people claim they are.

Out of space.

>>11268059
>If you want an internship, you need to put in the work and apply to over 500 companies when you're a freshman. For some reason, freshmen think you can just get an internship after applying to like 20 companies.
What? I haven't done an internship but a CS friend of mine applied for 4 and did an internship in the 2 of them who offered the most pay. Maybe instead of just spamming applications you should apply seriously and then you will get accepted.

>>11268059
>Reputation of the school matters. Stop giving yourself dumbass excuses and saying you'll save money by going to a crappy top 50 state school when you have the chance to go to a top 15 school for more money
There are studies that have disproven this. It's the person, not the school that matters.

School reputation can help when starting your career but it doesn't make you more competent. And reputation only matters at the very top when the school is world famous. If it's top 50 vs top 15 within a single state it doesn't matter because nobody gives a shit about top 15 either. And if you are the person to whom $100k matters, even more reason not to waste it because you clearly lack what it takes to be successful.

Instead of trying to piggyback on your school's reputation, learn how to socialize, make connections and persuade and make other people think you are worth hiring.

>>11247794
You'll never use any of that.

>>11248154
I graduated from Temple spring 2019, who are you? Maybe I know you.

Any EEs here? Do you really use all the math you learn in classes like SS or DSP? Does anyone need to know the Laplace transform to solve DEs? When we have computers?

>>11270389
Shit, just noticed someone asked that alread. the answer was righ here, right? >>11270380

>>11266663
Do you think MIT people post on 4chins? I thought better of them.

>>11266663
Most of the material online which is available to MIT students is also available to the public, i.e. MOOCs, OCW, etc. A lot of stellar sites are only available to you if you take the class, even if you're a student.

https://firehose.guide/ is the best course catalog available, the official one is trash.

Any space for technicians here? I'm in survey and I think I'll end up going into civil engineering so that I could become a licensed surveyor.

>>11270467
Thanks for the info. That's a shame. Also, I am surprised how messy MIT's structure is. We have an excellent course catalog with many filters that contains detailed information for each course.

MIT has 10 times the budget but only half the students and a fraction of the staff. Where does the money go? I would have expected private institutions to be more efficient and effective than public institutions, especially when the latter is open to all and can't select to accept only the best.

>>11270505
it is probably exactly the reason: they don't give a shit since they are not under pressure to make anything better and more convenient, they are fucking MIT. think microsoft and their products. pretty sad.

>>11270505
If you're an outsider I can imagine it's confusing, but I think that's partially by design with things like course numbers instead of majors. Most people here know how to navigate it so it's fine, but it could be more intuitive. My theory is that MIT was one of the first to implement these things online, and they haven't felt the need to update them since they technically "work." Check out the student portal that looks like it hasn't been updated since the 90s http://student.mit.edu/cgi-docs/sfprwhom.html

I'd imagine most of the money goes to research and Legal Seafood.

>>11270559
Wow. For ETH it's the opposite. Many websites have been updated in the past 2-3 years which is very frustrating because some things can't be accessed anymore and some old course material has been lost, probably is on some restricted servers.

>>11243386
Bro I'm Materials Eng and feel fucked right in the ass cause my curriculum was Metallurgy/Poly/Ceramics/Composites and didn't retain jack shit because it was so unfocused (also didn't really study that much)

>>11270679
Did an internship tho, have a student paper for some random ass congress behind me, also active in shit tons of student organizations that are linked with the faculty board in the Uni so im hoping it all turns out well after graduating since it looks pretty good on paper(in my resume)

1. Doing PhD in Electrical and Systems Eng
2. UPenn
3. 1

Anybody else working with computer architecture?

>>11249922
It is saturated, but these kind of jobs do exist

>>11256465
Experimentally

>>11248114
I don't think you can become a P.Eng with a chemistry degree

>why yes I'm an unemployed engineer how did you know

Engineering threads are always depressing as fuck. I took a (years) long break from this place and only decided to come back now since my degree is almost done and I have a good job offer. Still this thread is filled with doom posters and downers.

>>11246156
I didn't get any either. Play up any projects you had whether they were part of a class or independent.

redpill on computer engineering please

>>11242645
1. ChemE
2. Quebec, Canada
3. 1.5 years (internships)

Just finished undergrad and soon starting a job in a engineering consulting firm. As an engineer, how can you improve your resume/jobs prospects other than just by acquiring experience? I was thinking about getting a CAPM certification from the PMI or a Lean Six Sigma Green Belt, but other than that I don't know what I could do.

>>11272334
this is the variety of hallucinatory visuals one experiences when images from both eyeballs aren't processed in the normal sequence.

If you want job security work the gubment. Good pay and best benefits. Most time off, pension plan, etc... You're also not working for some stupid exec who wants a power supply with 110% efficiency. Usually your managers are also engineers.

I hope we go to war so I can get a job

>>11245137
if you live in commifornia and make less than $150k/yr, your getting fucked

>>11245460
idk but i think it sounds cool as hell

red pill me on getting a general engineering bachelors at a prestigious college then shooting for a masters in a more specialized subject at an elite college

>>11272334
Congrats anon, what's the job offer?


>>11270679
Nice, that's the sort of stuff I wanted to study in my ME degree, but the classes didn't really work out. Wound up going into stress analysis instead.

What's the idea behind Industrial Engineering? I'm seond year EE and although I'm doing well I hate the hands-on approach of the subject. I was thinking of transferring to IE and finishing these last three yeasr for my bachelor (am from ARG and bachelor degrees here are 5 years long). Would this be advisable, or should I just power through EE and then get a job in management or some such thing?

>>11274830
>general engineering
wtf does that mean? is that a thing? dont that degree would get you employed...

>>11274778
Yea, it seems SE or some type of management positions is the fastest way to a 6 figure salary. I've seen online 68k being reasonable for an entry level gig, but I feel shafted after doing more research.

>>11275662
From my understanding it's a degree that's much more popular in Europe, especially northern Europe, than in the US since here it's part of combined bachelor + master programs. The degree is also much closer to a physics bachelor than an engineering bachelor.

What eng branch would you guys recommend for somebody interested in biology and chemistry?

>>11276019
It's this course
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/general-engineering-meng

then doing a masters like
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/pg/mechanical-engineering/advanced-mechanical/
or
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/pg/aeronautics/advanced-aeronautical-engineering/

>>11268059
>2) Cover letters are the biggest scam and most boomer thing ever.
Does software make cover letters irrelevant now?

CS bachelor reporting in, starting my masters in CS in a week after codemonkeying for 4 years. I fully expect to get rekt by the math.

>>11261945
>There's one guy from MIT here, and another from Caltech, and those are probably the only people in this thread I respect.

I did undergrad CS at Notre Dame and am a PhD student at Carnegie Mellon. Am I up to your standards?

>>11268059
Don't listen to this fucktard undergrad telling you how the job market works.

It's true cover letters are uncommon these days, but I personally read them if they are sent when I'm asked to review a candidate, and they can be quite helpful if you are good at writing them.

In Michigan pretty much anyone can be a quality engineer, when I was with Delphi we had like ten people who had Geology,Communication, or other totally unrelated degrees working as QEs. They made between $55-75k for mostly sorting parts, splicing, pinning connectora, and other simple shit, it was unbelievable.

>>11277683
this is an engineering thread
you want to go here, maybe? >>>/g/

>>11277705
no

>>11277716
You gotta be 1 in a million. When I get interviews half the time it sounds like people haven't even read my resume let alone a cover letter.

>>11277837
Explain

>ms aero, bs aero
>csulb
>2+

Work at a big aero company as a stress/structures engineer. Boring but pays well, great benefits. Started 65k, then 71k, now 85k. I think we're getting a raise in february.

Socal is prime location for aero. I used latex on my resume, i think that helped

I fucked up
Got my bachelors without doing an internship

>>11273087
everyone is cutthroat, the CS market is over-saturated and generally CS people hate other CS people to even help them

t. high iq individual

>>11243361
Call yourself a coder or software architect, depending on your level of performance.

>>11278603
Nice mate, only making ~$80k, including bonus, after 4 years doing stress, low cost of living area though. Defense or commercial? What section(s) have you worked?

>first class degree, president of ieee society, 1 (completely unrelated) internship
>applied to 20-30 internships for this summer
>rejected from most of them so far
guys i think im gonna be homeless

>>11268059
>1) If you want an internship, you need to put in the work and apply to over 500 companies when you're a freshman. For some reason, freshmen think you can just get an internship after applying to like 20 companies.
five HUNDRED? i dont even think theres more than 100 electronicE internships in my entire country being offered right now

do i just apply to literally everything, even if its not related? like a fucking business internship at a tech company?

>>11278603
>>11279437
how do i make sure i get a nice job

>>11278728
I didn't either. In fact I didn't start looking afted i graduated with my masters. I think it's mostly how you communicate your answers during the interview and their first impression of you when you walk in.

>>11279437
Nice! Your disposable income is probably more than mine. Pretty expensive down here in socal. I was in a mix of defense/space/comm roughly in my first year, now purely in commercial (~1.5 years).

>What section(s)...?

Dunno what exactly you mean, do you mean which fuselage section? That's the nomenclature I know. But to answer your question the best I can, I dont work on fuselage. I'm in propulsion structures

>>11279653
Same person, you just popped up as soon as I hit submit

In addition to >>11279656 here:

>pick 5 or so positions you really want
>look at their job postings and look at key words, e.g. propulsion, stress, FEM, etc
>tailor your resume to include those words, especially with big companies, they use automatic filters multiple times before a person actually looks at it
Before i did this my interview to application ratio was 1:50 or something. After that i got two interview out of the 5 i submitted. When you get the interview, you are 90% there. Just act/appear to be confident and show willingness to learn.

>>11279653
Be lucky, and don't have bad luck

>>11279656
Meant pic related, my bad, I forget it's just a Boeing thing. Hope you're enjoying it, I imagine it's pretty interesting, what with all the thermal, vibration, and fan blade out work. How's the job market down there? Around here, everyone's pretty shaken up with Boeing shitting the bed on 737 and 777, among other things. I seem to know a lot of friends of friends who are out of a job. At the same time, there's a lot of optimism on defense work and non-Boeing commercial programs.

Redpill me on engineering management?
I'm gonna join the army after uni because it's something I've wanted to do since I was a kid. If i'm going in as an officer then i'm going to be doing an engineering management type role.

What does civilian engineering management look like?

will companies really take you if you're out of state or out of country?
Seems like in a case like that they have a lot to lose by dragging someone from across the country. Either they fly you out for interviews before hiring you, which is expensive. Or they hire you based on phone interviews and then you fly to work there which is a risk in going off phone interviews alone.

>>11279729
this is precisely my problem. im getting my degree out of the country. in the country im in im completely exempt from applying for government jobs and i dont see myself getting a job in my hometown as it stands

>>11279707
Dealing with HR issues
Approving PTO
Making sure people have what they need to engineer stuff
Communicate with other teams
RARELY offer some kind of opinion or validate some work

>>11279696
Lol. I guess theres no point in hiding it but I also work at Boeing. I guess I'm pretty ignorant with everything besides the nacelles because every time they would say anything about "sections" it was always in the context of the fuselage.

I like it when I'm doing FEM but I mostly do work on that proprietary handcalc tool, which is pretty boring. FBO is especially interesting with how it's modeled in simulation.

Another interesting note is that they said that our site specifically wont be affected by the 737 max shitshow. We just didnt get any bonuses this year. They are actually in a hiring rush since my site is partially supporting the 737 max rts.

>>11279738
Say I have an ME degree, if i'm a manager then could I technically work in fields outside of ME if that's what all i'm doing? e.g. Bridge/building contruction, aerospace, robotics, automotive, etc.

>>11279768
Sure, there are even some managers with no real engineering experience or education whatsoever, though I haven't worked for any (thankfully). But, if there's a particular field you're interested in, I'd do what you can to get some experience in it first, through the army or otherwise.

>>11279760
>Another interesting note is that they said that our site specifically wont be affected by the 737 max shitshow. We just didnt get any bonuses this year.
Still, ouch. I think it's a similar situation here, I think machinists/assemblers will get furloughed/laid-off, but I don't think they can afford to get rid of any engineers here. Not any good ones, anyway.

>I like it when I'm doing FEM but I mostly do work on that proprietary handcalc tool, which is pretty boring. FBO is especially interesting with how it's modeled in simulation.
Yeah, I've spent pretty much the past year doing nothing but FEM and, as autistic as the work is, it's a lot of fun. Hopefully I can keep doing it, though I don't know if I want to be a loads guy my whole career. I'll have to get on a pylon/nacelle team one of these days, to see how FEM is done in that world.

Anyway, take it easy anon, nice talking to ya

>>11279943
Same, hang in there brother.

>>11249545
what is your job?

i'm scared i'll get a job and hate it and hate the area

>>11279696
Are you from Wichita State by any chance?

>>11279768
Some managers at my company are super wizards, some don't have any skills in the field in which their team works. I've also never heard of someone that has set their sites on becoming a manager out of college. If that's your goal, you have to be a really effective communicator, empathetic, and a bit of a salesman. Typically managers have been in the field in some capacity or another for a number of years though.

>>11280229
It's because the Army will train me to be an engineer manager and give me experience. After my 4 years in service it'll probably be harder to get a regular engineer job than a management position unless I go to grad school straight after. Also it pays more.

>>11279729
Out of country (if you are American) is a huge pain due to visa laws and whatnot. Out of state is almost meaningless in this day and age. Companies will take the right candidate, and if they can't pay for your relocation they will straight up tell you.

>>11280218
Maybe so!

>>11270383
I graduated spring of 2019 also, not sure how i can subtly imply who i am specifically to you

>>11270389
>>11270395
For circuit analysis using Laplace/Fourier is mostly unnecessary beyond understanding of the fundamentals. All practical work will pretty much be done in some SPICE program

I’m not sure about DSP stuff in industry, but afaik most DSP positions require at least a masters and there aren’t many positions in the first place. Some basic understanding is probably necessary in select roles (ie understanding the properties of LTI systems and conceptually how frequency and time domain are related)

>>11242645
year 1 physics student
ubb, roumania

hello. i got into physics because it was the only thing i was decent in highschool but i never really got used to learning. at first in uni i was hyped, even tho we dont do much physics yet, more math and side stuff like chemistry , but after a development in my personal life i lost all will to do anything at all, and on top of that i feel like i have gotten impostor syndrome being here. is it worth it for me to keep grinding it out and trying to get that physics engineer degree? i just lack a goal in life right now and all i assume is that i would like to be some sort of mechanic. any advice? i really dont wanna drop out after 1 semester of not even doing physics, but it all just feels hopeless. thanks for reading my blog and sorry if this is not the place to post this, any advice is appreciated

Software Tecnology
Aalborg University
1 yr

Electrical Engineer
University of Chile
third year
Guys I'm really anxious about the ranking of my university (about 150 or so in the world), should I care if I am in my undergrad?

Computer Engineer
Ryerson, Canada
~1 year as a driver developer

Finished my undergrad with a 4 month internship, got hired before graduating by talking to engineers at a job fair.

>>11284842
Pretty sure experience is more important for landing jobs, and isn't your uni the best in your country? Do your masters in a prestigious US uni if you're really scared

>>11278603
>>11279437
Making 75k after 5 years of making nastran decks.

heh

I am doing ME (second semester) in Brazil but I don't like anything that's related to ME. I am much more of a electronics/computers guy and am considering switching to EE or CS. However, the ME course I'm doing is arguably the best in the country and EE/CS aren't all that great here in my uni. What do?

(almost) environmental engineer here, less than a year to finish.
anyone work in simiar fields? i was thinking about getting my master's in process engineering or even chemical engineering
anyone has any experience with either? i'd like to get into petroleum engineering.

If I decide to get the chemical engineering degree, it would only take me two years' time. master's would be one year. any reccomendations?

How many of you lived with your parents during uni and how many of you moved out? Why and would you do it again?

I'm gonna have to make the choice in half a year (studying ME most likely) and honestly the question is detrimental, paralyzing my thoughts.

1. Bioengineering undergrad, finished in 2018
2. Temple, USA
3. Didn't do any internships or jack shit, so 0. I just started a couple days ago in a developer position for medical imaging software at a different nearby university. Hoping I can eventually leverage this into a master's or PhD focusing on the machine learning/AI/data science side of things. Just not sure if it will be too saturated in the future for me to get a foothold.

>>11248154
>>11270383
I really didn't expect to see two other people from the same university as me, cool.

>>11269122
You can't get experience without getting a job. All the top job look at what school you went to and take that into consideration to a ridiculous degree. It's even more true in fintech, by the way. The second thing they look at is GPA and protip: it's actually easier to have a better GPA at a top school. Not to mention top school = better networking. Personal competence precisely NEVER has any impact on anything. It's all names and papers and sucking dick. You can dream however you like but reality is how it is.
And once you have your first job under your belt, guess what? Only the name of the company you worked for before matters, and the name of your school. It's still papers and names and dicksucking. It will always be.

>>11243391
>not a scientist
Objectively he is

>>11260875
What’s the better choice if I want to work with microprocessors? EE or CE?

>>11260875
this exactly except I went to UF

>>11288021
either is fine really. what do you want to do with them exactly?

Can someone redpill me on Computer Science Technology?

>>11242645
>Computer

>>11287778
>I just started a couple days ago in a developer position for medical imaging software
It took you two years to find a job? Holy shit, did that come up in the interview?

>>11242645
Mechanical Engineering (focus on Nuclear); Master's working on PhD
U.S.
Year of experience: Zero
I also took did my undergrad in physics and my job is more tailored to nuclear physics, but I have a solid engineering background. Made the mistake of not taking internships and instead focus on studies. While job is physics based, I'm admired for my engineering skills, although I'll likely never get my P.E. license.
I dunno. Life's weird.

>>11287938
>Personal competence precisely NEVER has any impact on anything
Imagine holding such stupid, destructive and blatantly false beliefs. I bet you're a loser.

>>11243942
I mean from my limited experience doing radio filter design, most of the work I have done is new designs. Designing filters is an interesting job because the damn things are so finicky, I rely on my supervisor a lot since its a lot of gut feels about circuit structure since we don't have enough time to fully simulate each filter in 3D electromagnetics solvers

>>11245469
In my undergrad we didn't do complex. My last formal maths courses were on analysis and vector calculus

1. Electrical and Electronic, starting masters in radio filters this year.
2. Stellenbosch University, South Africa.
3. 0, SA is a shithole

>>11255714
>I wanted to do CS for the money
You'll never make it.

>>11277683
How many internships have you done?

>>11242645
>inb4 poo jokes
I'm a CSE student from India and I study at a top uni. Can any of you anons advise me about things that I should or should not do, things to watch out of for and some redpills ? Thanks

>>11288681
t. underageb&

>>11288924
>Anon from IIT
>Anon does nothing and still gets a decent paying job in India
>Anon lifts a finger and gets a job at one of the fortune 500
>Anon is self conscious that he's in Best uni
>Anon is retarded for asking a stupid question in a thread that at least helps others to get a better job and also gives some life advice

Look anon, I'm not jealous. Just clarifying that you aren't allowed here.

>>11287760
Didn't move out however the college I attend is literally 3 minutes from my parents house.

>>11289179
This seems suspiciously familiar

I just turned 30 and after an 7 year job path in graphic design I want to turn to an entirely different career path and field. As a hobby I play with simple robotics and circuit making, but I would like to actually do that as a job.
Is this possible? After watching lots of videos and researching schools robotics can be a specific degree sometimes, but usually as a phd. Undergrad should be EE or ME?
Can someone tell me about their opinions or experiences with anything related to these topics (career switching, robotics, programming, circuits)
TY and, guys, pls no bully.

>>11289682
do EE like Terry Davis

>>11289687
doesnt seem like he ever got a real job... was really smart but to unhinged

How hard is it to switch to a completly different field ? I have a master's in energy systems and associated markets, my aim was to become an energy trader but here fucking we go with a 2000€ technician job as a plc programmer (I just apply shit, no cognitive thinking at all). I mean being an immigrant trying to find a decent job in a patriotic country isn't that easy, but I just think I picked the wrong field.
Any suggestions to help me reorientate my carreer are welcome. (and yeah btw I can't change my actual job in the next 2 years bcz I still don't have the nationality yet. May be I can use the week-ends until then to study something else. fml).

Why isn’t this thread kill?

>>11242645
ME
Semiconductor Industry
5 years

Been reading the thread and I think it’s funny that some people are shitting on HVAC. I just got out of a completely different technical role that was far more complex to step into an HVAC role. You know why? It’s easy money.

graduated EE with no internships and a 3.3 GPA. literally the first position I applied to hired me, not that it was the only one I applied to

>>11242645
1. BS Mech E.
2. UC Berkeley
3. 2

I'm at the point where I'm smart enough to know I'm stupid. A smarter person told me that the best way to have a good career is to examine your desires and set a long term objective. Do not get caught up in the corporate ladder if you are not in THE job.

Is the aerospace job industry in the United States fucked now that Boeing shit the bed? I'm worried entire supply chains will shut down if Boeing keeps the 737Max production off too long. Where are all the jobs?

What are ways to do optical engineering?
I basically want a sheet of material that directs incoming parallel rays of light into a specific distribution of directions.
Obviously I could employ an array of lenses but this doesn't seem like the most efficient solution.
Is it possible to "cast" a plate of glass that has a variable index of refraction?

When calling the hiring manager pre-application, what should I say or talk about?

>>11290586
>Where are all the jobs?
Northrop Grumman's hiring

But yeah, there are a ton of mom & pop manufacturing companies that won't be able to survive this shut down, and have no idea what Boeing's plan is on getting some of these parts when they want to resume. The shitshow has only begun.

>>11290541
what country, and are you living in a city?

signals is pretty cool desu, going into the frequency domain is like stepping in the matrix

>>11288924
Kys first of all streetshitter. Thank your Boeing-programmer Uncle Rajesh for shitting up the aviation industry

>>11292727
I'm more interested in Civilian Aviation like the 737s and 787s of the world. Subsonic, stable, comfortable flight is where you'll find me.
Boeing's fucked up the whole industry in the US, yeah? All for what? Cheap pajeet coders?

I have been thinking about general design of wings for rc-bird with more degrees of freedom compared to rc-birds you can find for sale these days.
It has taken me over 9 years of thinking about it every now and then to come up with this general design.

Each dof can be actuated independently by electric motor and each motor used for actuation of joints in wing + one extra motor are used for flapping motion. Also, wing structure becomes stronger in direction of flapping so it can be more lightweight compared to some other actuation designs.

I think this design can be scaled so that it can be used for human transportation. This was my main motivation but I would first design smaller rc-model that I would use to learn how to fly before I risk my life.
I have space and tools to build it as my family has transportation company that has its own facility for fixing trucks.

What areas of mathematics and engineering physics I need to master so that I can model this machine mathematically and optimize its shape and size? Any book recommendations?

My background is car mechanic school around 8 years ago and many years of electronics, programming, math and chemistry self-studies every now and then.
I am now studying mathematics at Khan Academy for spring entrance exams for chemical and mechanical engineering and mathematics.
I am more interested in mathematics and it would be my first choice as I have many interests that are all connected by it and I like to live inside my head.
If I get into university to study mathematics, I would need to study engineering by myself as I would only pic mathematics courses.
I am applying to study mechanical and chemical engineering because it is free and I get more money from the state if I am in school. If I don't like it much, I can change it later.

Thanks for help.

>>11293485
Haven’t seen a biomimicry poster in a while. Undeniably based

Best places to work as an aerospace engineer and a coomer?

>>11242645
Give it to me straight, what do recruiters expect from CSE students? Which things are given the most importance? Like GPA ,leetcode and math skills, machine and deep learning, web and android development etc? Asking so that I can focus only on the important stuff. Thanks in advance.
t. Second year CSE student

Mech undergrad, just registered for the FE exam. Is the NCEES practice test worth buying?

Is it worth it to get into CS just for the money or am I gonna burnout

>>11294145
The handbook is worth buying because it's just a really nice, handy reference. The test is super easy to pass once you've taken the basic courses, but you can buy the practice test if it makes you feel better. 90 percent of the test is just finding the right equation in the handbook, plug, and chug.

>>11242645
>>11242645
mechanical engineer here, ask me anything?

>>11294308

>>11294304
Thank you anon. I have the 9.4 handbook, current edition is 9.5. I can imagine not much has changed between the two, but do you know if I will be prevented from using the old one?

>>11287760
Move out if you can. It’s better to learn independence earlier rather than later. Unless your family is financially unable to support you living on your own that is.

>>11294344
They should provide you an electronic copy when you take the test (on a computer), I don't think they let you bring in outside materials

What are some (non web dev/business software dev) computer engineer job prospects once I finish my undergrad? Circuit design, robotics etc. all seem to require masters + 5 years work experience.

>>11245223
go into bioinformatics, you dumb fuck, its way better

Mechotronics eng, 1.5 years experience in Australia in Industrial automation.

Want to change jobs since Industrial Automation is boring af, and head to something more mechanical. How do I do it best?

I'm a college drop out, but I've been lying to my parents and employers for the last two years, I went through three jobs in this time, first as a Jr web dev specialized in UI design, then as a visual artist in an art gallery where my team and I made a huge interactive visual project and now I'm working in the only team that has the credentials to configure network equipment at a national level for a major ISP.
This is supposed to be my last year in college and I owe my current employer a university title that I lied having, is there a way to get my degree without college?
I can do any exam I get thrown at, just avoid me the hassle of going to classes

>>11295814

Can confirm. Bioinformatics is pretty comfy

>>11295836
Just reenrol and do classes you fucking retard

>>11242645
1. Maritime eng BSc & Msc, structural dynamics PhD
2. TU Delft, Sorbonne
3. 1 year of subsea engineering

The PhD was fun but a bit redundant perhaps. I do still directly benefit a lot from Python knowledge gained during PhD.

going offshore next month to witness a trial :^)

>>11257545
they import all their engineers from abroad though

>>11295823
dunno I heard Australia has lots of mining and petroleum industries that will look for engineers.

Automation is always a useful skill even if it is just for your own report writing.

>>11296009
Industrial Automation is a different thing to automation (as confusing as it is), it's more "I can operate SCADA and industrial controllers". Anyway good advice but these are the industries I'm trying to get away from rather than towards.

>>11296036
In general what I hear from people that do engineering jobs that they love, is that it took a bit of time to find it. Also you need to talk with a lot of people what they do and figure out whether it is interesting for yourself. Finally by talking with a lot of people and if you have a clear idea on what you want then it becomes easier to hear about job opportunities as well.

SCADA is data sensing and acquisition? I would guess that that kind of knowledge is useful for, sorry for the use of a buzzword, blockchain. That's what I would guess is many industries is to automate the bookkeeping of what is being produced and transported or whatever.

>going more mechanical
What about sustainable energy? There is a lot of automation needed for wind turbines and energy storage. Especially if you can solve the energy storage problem you would solve a huge problem for society.

I guess theses guys could do with some of your skills: https://hornsdalepowerreserve.com.au/
but that is more electrical engineering problems.

>>11296056
Hmm not a dumb idea actually. I'm working with that solar farm for work right now coincidentally! Anyway, SCADA is a bit different to that but it might be worthwhile taking a look at Chainlink as you say, but in terms of finding what I like, it's why I want to try a few types of industries while I'm still a graduate instead of being locked into just one i mightn't like.

>>11296160
In the end you can always change and having a couple of years experience in another industry is never a bad thing. As long as you can explain why that experience will help you further in your next role. You should not see it as a mistake spending time in different industries but as a learning experience.

What I would ask about from other engineers is the following:
>What does your daily job routine look like?
>What knowledge is prerequisite to your job?
>What do you learn on your job?
>What do you like about your job?
>What is your main concern about your job?
>What are your future career prospects with this job?

...and then the hard part is to figure out what you actually want to do yourself.

>>11261945
Are internships important for getting into a decent university for masters?

>>11243398
NOOOOOOOOONOOONOOOOOOOO!

EE
USA
0

I'm failing to find motivation, I want to get into RF and electromagnaetics, but all the employers for this field are defense companies and telecommunications.

>>11242653
>You seem unloyal if you switched 5 jobs

? I don't understand this concept. If the employer wants to keep you they will incentivize you appropriately. If they don't do it enough you will jump ship. The next employer may see this as unloyal, but all they need to do is incentivize you appropriately and you shouldn't jump ship again.

Your tendency to jump ship is based on your incentives only because no one is unloyal for the sake of it however your tendency to stay with a company is based on both your loyalty to the company and the incentive.

Staying increases your loyalty because of human psychology, but jumping ship does not increase your unloyalty you start back at zero loyalty to the new company (which would still be the case even if you had a good loyalty score). Poor incentives increase your unloyalty.

>>11295836
if employers were to check if you really had a degree, they would have done it before hiring you? right?
and in terms of your parents, well you just have to tell them the truth. i knew someone who did this same exact thing. they were mad but also not too much because they realized what sperg idiot you probably are so kind of sympathetic. they will also want you to finish. stop doing stupid shit.

>>11295823
do u play with robots

you guys think it would be bad if I start looking for a job up my interest if I only have like 2 months at my current one? I took a job because I literally couldn't land something, but they did a switch on me. I had applied as an EE position, then I got the job but as a designer. Its MEP field, so its like ok? not really sure if I want to stick around for long. The work is meh, pretty mudane at the moment. Just want to work with fpga's and shit if I'm being honest. But yea, would it look bad on me for trying to move on this fast, or should I wait like 6 months?

>>11297339
I asked this because I know companies are doing a lot of hiring right now.

>engineering thread
>90% of posts asking what major they should do
>5% salary discussion
>5% just Boeing employees planning next crash

So /sci/ what's your opinion on PXIs RF Testing capabilities

>>11297922
Read the OPs post first you gay fucking retard. Then fuck off newfag

Can I use denatured fuel alcohol in place of naphtha for cleaning oils off firearms prior to bluing?

>>11297026
The robots play with him, that's why he wants out.

>>11297339
>>11297343
Just do it brother. See what happens. If it comes up in interview tell the truth. You got straight duped.

>>11242645
is it normal to feel unprepared for an entry level job coming out of college. Ive been a pretty ok student at a top 15 EE school and have a job come may. However i just feel like i dont know what my companies expects of me and how much of what i learned i can transition into the workforce. Anyone want to give me an idea on what the first few months out of college was like?

>>11297017
>They would have done it before hiring you? right?
No, I just went through the interviews and exams, most of them were via skype. After my first two months in an internship I got a one year contract, then I jumped ship to a six months contract, now I'm in Routing and Switching, I simply lied about having an engineer title, all they cared was what my former employers said about me.
In order to finish college I need another 10k+, at least 18 months of classes without job, plus time to make my thesis.
I don't have time for that, I've been doing way more these last 2 years of not attending classes than ever before, also I like being financially independent. I just find an easier way than bore to death finishing my computer engineering degree.

>>11242645
1. International student, Senior currently studying for Undergrad in Computer Engineering
2. University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign, USA
3. 0, though I have 3 1-2 month internships in software and business intelligence

Confession, I actually got dropped for like a year due to my personal issues, flaws and problems holding me back and causing my GPA and classes to tank. I took the time to get some more internship experience and fix my flaws and this year I just returned and scored pretty well in difficult technical classes, which included their infamous Intro to Comp Architecture class, at like 3.12 GPA. What I am wondering about is whether I am expecting a harsh fight to get a job after graduation even if I have good performance after return from drop and having around 3 internships under my belt.

>>11298052
If you love what you do you won't have trouble making through the demands of your boss. Just focus on what the man who pays you wants, a lot of coworkers are crooks that will want you to make do their job, the only guy you have to hear orders from, at least until you get the bussines as usual routine, is your direct boss.
There are a lot of senior people working in the same positions for years and years, that won't be you, do interviews and try to get a better pay, a better pay always means more responsability, which means more experience, which means more chances on getting these high paying positions. Some employers won't even look at what you were doing, just your last salary to check if the position is right for you. That's why you have to take every small opportunity, a high paying job won't land out of pure luck and dedication, it will land out of trying a lot of small ones.

Gonna double major ME and EE, what am I in for?

>>11268042
Why the hell are you getting accepted for disability and I am not? I literally have to pay a lawyer because my state is so corrupt. I have schizophrenia (graduated from high school at age 20) chronic fatigue, POTs, and fibromyalgia and I don't qualify for social security because I can walk for some days and other times I literally cannot stand. I doubt you have social security from what you have stated so far. If I was born black you bet your ass I would be getting SSI right now.

>>11298083
i dont fucking care about money, i come from it. I just want to feel like i can go into work everyday for the next 40 years and not feel like a fucking fraud who got curved through 4 years. What do i need to do so i dont feel like there a chance of me getting fired everyday

>>11298092
Uh...why would you do that? One engineering major is already harsh and I'm not sure about doing two at once

>>11298136
I love pain

>>11295823
Yeah robotics is easy and fun if you know coding languages and at the same time makes you look like a based super smart Uber chad.

>>11298044
Alroght fuck it. I guess I’ll put them on my job experience so it doesnt look like I have a large gap on my exp? My previous job before this ended in november last year, cant be without work exp. for the last few months.

>>11262188
>>11260795
How should I get into the semiconductor industry if I'm just getting a normal well rounded EE degree from a state school? I have no research experience...

>>11242645
Princeton University,
Currently Undergrad physics, International Student.

I am feeling pretty hopeless anons. Should I leave physics for ELE? I am doing pretty well it's just that I am quickly entering a burnout phase in physics as I have been doing this shit for 10 years now due to olympiads and stuff. Maybe changing the path for something with a more real-world application will help me.

>>11298167
what major do you think would be better as an undergrad for a grad program in robotics? ee, me?

>>11298186
It’s more just a combo of both ee and mech e. As well as a little bit of comp sci

thinking about dropping out,
only 1 semester in but its too exhausting with my 4 hour commuting time and studies
i could be making money right now and living with my partner but at the same time i dont know what else to do in life, dont want to work retail for the rest of my days

>>11298274
Go to trade school

>>11293778
Anyone?

>>11298052
That's very common, it's called imposter syndrome. Will this be your first time in the industry or do you have experience through internships or whatever?

>>11298138
You do not know what terrors you are about to unleash on your life

Associates Degree
Community College
7 years experience
About 105k annually
Controls Engineer
Bros, I feel so bad for other engineers. I even have a hard time calling myself that. I've done well in my field and worked my way up from the bottom. There are smarter more dedicated people that I work with everyday, but the controls and automation field are in high demand. What should I do bros?

>>11297026
Want to but don't have much room for any building equipment (not even a 3D printer). Also a lazy fuck but I got a few ideas with liquid robotics
>>11297997
Can confirm

>>11298167
>>11298186
Check opportunities where you live before trying out robotics. While great if you can get into it, the problem is that only one person I know from uni got a robotics related job. Everyone else just got shuffled off to consulting or industrial automation (not too bad though). If you're in the US you're in the best position, followed by Japan and Germany and maybe some parts of France/Belgium but anywhere else it's really hard to get work in it. Australia at least is pretty shit for it

>>11263697
come on there has to be someone who is knows something

>>11242645
My very first paper just got published on a telecommunications journal. Feels amazing guys!

Also, I'm at my Masters. I work mostly with photonics.

Probably not the right place to ask but here it goes:
>Need to get into machine learning for data analysis.
>Long time since colleague.
>Need an Statistics book to help me remember some concepts.

Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

When did you realize that EE's are the Ubermensch of STEM?

>>11301586

I have less than one year of experience as a full-time employee and I'm already tired of being a wage cuck.

I'm thinking about starting a business with my friends from college. We're all Telecommunications Engineers (EEs for burgers). I would like to go for something AI-related, but the only one from the group who knows how to code or what a neural network looks like is me. Most of my friends are in engineering, networking or cybersecurity positions, so I guess we would have to settle for IT engineering/consulting.

Any ideas?

>>11243361
Luckily in Canada "engineer" is a protected title (like Doctor) so you legally can't call yourself an engineer in any sort of professional way without being one. What you make your boyfriend call you is up to you, but you'll be fined if you try to put that shit in a CV or something.

>>11301968
You're at the wrong place in that Knowledge vs Confidence curve. Get some experience before attempting to start a company or you'll be bankrupt faster than you can tighten the noose.

>>11302052

I don't want to do it yet. The idea is for all of us to get around 3 more years of experience before we go for it.

>>11302102
In that case, pick something you actually enjoy doing. You're clearly not happy doing whatever it is you're doing now, so make sure it isn't that. Businesses rarely succeed if the owner(s) don't care about the material they're working with beyond the paycheck. Nobody here can accurately suggest what you like to do.

>>11249547
how is that not code monkeying tho?

>>11300387
is being a controls engineer reall so easy?

>>11300950
thanks for the reply. yeah i am in the US. i would move anywhere. can you tell me what are some specific job positions that actually involve robotics? or what undergrad to take for which area of robotics? im just trying to learn enough about it before i make a decision for undergrad

>>11302033
What are the actual consequences if I put "engineer" on my LinkedIn, resume, and website?

>>11299246
my only internship was for a non engineering position on the railroad. Thats partly why i feel so un prepared. I had multiple friends talk about the projects they built and designed, meanwhile all i did was general construction work. no programming, no designing. Just classic troubleshooting, problem solving, teamwork etc. Basically i know i can excel in every aspect of business but i have no idea if i feel like i can actually sit down, and design and find a solution to a real electrical engineering problem.

>>11302687
Mechatronics primarily, but also Electrical or Mechanical if that isn't on offer. I took a 3 year Science undergrad and a 2.5 year Mechatronics postgrad.
A few job positions are found if you just type it in on google, but I myself haven't had much success. If you really want to get into it, the best way is probably through applying to RnD jobs, or if that doesn't work then startups on Angellist or a similar website I reckon

>>11302887
Check your state laws, some states don't care, others, like Texas, do: https://www.statesman.com/news/20160903/their-name-on-the-line-texas-engineering-regulators-head-to-court

>>11242645
1) Chemical Engineering. Got my undergrad recently
2) UWS - Scotland
3) just graduated and looking for work

How long is the recruitment process for grad schemes in the UK bros?
Also how can I use my degree to emigrate to the USA in the future?

Civil
yooo
About a year with internships and a co-op
Looking to get into project controls

>>11245411
Not the dude you were talking to but that citicorps building was interesting, I had no idea. I can't believe it was prompted due to a discuss a student raised.
Actually blows my mind a renown engineer can get BTFO by some student