/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11179842
diagnosis

>>11179847
ONE in THIRTY SIX have autism

>>11179849
COOL who CARES

Why does it correlates so highly with single mother households?

>>11179853
It doesn't.

autism is clearly the next step in human evolution.

>>11179859

t. Roastie

>>11179842
because theres that many more psychiatrists to insure repeat business from their customers by issuing the diagnosis these days

>>11179842
and that's the gender neutral statistic, at least 5.1% of boys specifically are getting diagnosed these days.
i'm guessing more awareness or improved diagnostic criteria but it could also be that people are putting off having children until later in life, and parental age correlates with an increased 'risk' of autism.

>>11179886
>t. moron
It's good to know in addition to not looking up information before you post you also don't know how to quote.

>>11179893
And this is why women past the age of 25 shouldn't be allowed to breed.

because it is overdiagnosed. parents cant accept their chilren are DUMB like them and just say oh he must be autistic/have add, etc lets put them on amphetamines :)

>>11179847
>>11179851
>>11179889
>>11179893
>>11179904
You guys need to go outside. Kids these days are absolutely fucked in the head. Even high schoolers are completely different than when I was young. It's probably from being raised on Youtube and social media.

>>11179918
>Kids these days
O.K. Boomer

Industrialization
The only solution is to deindustrialize

>>11179975
>boohoohoo you hurted my feelings so you're wrong
said every kid born after 1985

>>11179842

You know, I'm willing to bet it has something to do with the cumulative effects of certain industrial pollutants. What shit did we start pumping into the air/water/soil within a few decades of the 1970s? Maybe it's some knockoff effect of a fertilizer or pesticide? Can we look at whether autism occurs more commonly in some regions versus others? It's weird to me that autism and obesity also started ramping up at around the exact same time, I swear we must be poisoning ourselves unwittingly.

>>11179987
its not the first time

we used to lead for pipes. lead...for piping......lead...pipes.

microplastics and other mystery pollutants are lead pipes 2.0

>>11179979
>born at least 1985
>at least 34

It’s over

>>11179842
Reactions to chemicals in vaccines given to infants, on the accelerated schedules now in use.

>>11180011
Wasn't that study debunked?

>>11179842
There was some manufacturing plant in the heart of the country that was producing "a hit new product" in the 1970s. The industrial runoff from the production has seeped into the ground and spread throughout the country, affecting fetuses to this day. It's a malady we're still unaware of. In 2065 there will be an exposé exposing exactly what happened. But by then it will be far too late to do anything about it. The country will be projected to collapse under the weight of the autistic population by the turn of the century.

>>11180016
It's not vaccines. It's something else. Read this: >>11180018

Yesterday, literally yesterday, I had to do a free intro class for the private academy I work at, some kid literally pulled his pants completely down to scratch his fat ass. He was in the front of the class because I already made him sit in front because he wouldnt shut up.

Fortunately my back was turned at the time and another teacher coincidentally saw through the window and took the kid out. Its fortunate because I would have powerbombed him and lost my job.

Kids in the past were forced to cooperate with others or face severe discipline or bullying. Thats my explanation.

>>11179842

Increase in maternal age combined with over diagnosing.

>>11180018
gonna need some more sources than "some manufacturing plan in the 1970s

>>11180018
>2065

off by 5 years idiot, 2070 paradigm shift is gonna rock our understanding of autism

>>11179842
Humans are increasingly living lifestyles they hadn't evolved to live. We see physical examples in obesity and heart disease, and mental examples in the rise of autism, bipolar disorder, and even gender dysphoria. These were present before modern times, but much rarer, as humanity's environment was much more natural. While the physical issues can be fixed, the mental issues, gained through childhood, are irreversible.

>>11179842
Changing of the definition, of how it's diagnosed and dysgenics.

>>11179994
honestly a pretty decent take

would not be surprised if this was true

>>11179918
Its psychiatric doctor's jobs to convince people that they need "treatment" and the media is filled with their propaganda, seems to involve, with suspicious regularity, prescriptions to addictive drugs which can only be continued as long as you're seeing the doctor regularly and keeping him in business. Its not a legitimate profession, its not really part of the medical field, its just a big tangle of circular reasoning logical gobbledygook the likes of which Lewis Carroll and Douglas Adams used to create in jest.

common white behavior pathologized = autism/aspergers
common black behavior pathologized = bipolar

>>11180114
what kind of retarded take is this? my behaviour was anything but common. if it was i wouldn't have gotten diagnosed in the first place.

>>11179842
The definition of autism changed.

>>11179842
>mfw the singularity is happening right fucking now
>it's not ai
>it's autism

>>11179902
rather they than you. if your goal is to minimize autism especially

>>11179842
Autism is a superpower, this is good for humanity

>>11179842
Autism is evolutionary advantageous.

City pollution.

>why
Because I think it's for the best.

>>11180046
I think anon was just offering up a playful take on how public health crises (and political scadals) unfold. Initially the perpetrators dent it, the public sides with the corporations, and anyone wiestioning the scandal is called a conspiracy theorist.

>>11181035
This, actually. There are some very convincing stats about higher autism levels near highways.

>>11180974
>>11180924
Thanks for the 4s. Very rare 1 in 1 odds

>dude, industrialism
no. Autism is simply on the rise because the only people that breed are incredibly narcissistic women who for some reason or another often choose an autistic male as a partner.

>>11181103
Nice 03 usually 1 in 40 odds but this one is a 1 in 43

>>11181103
>no
>preaches the truth about autism
>posts an autistic cartoon
no

>>11181078
Thank you for the timestamp 21. My work here is done

>>11181111
thanks, nice quads

>>11179918
>Kids these days are absolutely fucked in the head
You realise that literally every generation felt that way.

>>11181111
>>11181118
Yup. Quads usually are 1 in 220 but this one is a very rare. 1 in 44

>>11181121
Kids/young adults are dying of liver failure and overdoses at higher rates than previous generations. This is an objective measure of fucking up so bad you’re literally fucking dead. All generations before this one had a greater life expectancy than the generation that came directly before it. We are the first to reverse that trend. This is a science board. Think about it scientifically.

>>11181135
dying? *does the fortnite dance* owo

>>11181121
Not every but recent ones yes and that does not mean they were/are wrong, if anything these people are demonstratively correct and just noticing observations which are brushed aside as 'difference'.

>>11179849
>ONE in THIRTY SIX have autism
When I was a kid, "autism" was only the most extreme. mental-retardation manifestation.
Kids who spend hours a day just banging their head against the wall.
OCD, SED, kelptomania, etc. etc. didn't count as autism.
There was no "spectrum", and I doubt anyone was keeping numbers on a large percentage of those we now consider autistic.

>>11181162
>When I was a kid
1970', btw

>>11179842
>Why didn't they cite their sources ?
FTFY

>>11179849
>ONE in THIRTY SIX are on the autism spectrum
Fixed that for you.

>>11179842
plastic pollutants during fetal development

>>11180020
>It's not vaccines. It's something else. Read this: >>11180018

No. That's utter bullshit. It fucking /IS/ vaccines. It's just that there's a well-funded campaign to disinform, misinform, and otherwise silence all dissent about them, because of

1. The ""Agenda"" of reducing world populations
2. The amount of money involved

>>11181175
You seem to be very adamant for someone with zero proof to back up your claims.

>>11181175
Hey /x/-tard, somebody who wanted to reduce world population would push the anti-vaxer narrative (like you're doing here).

>>11181103
I thought most autists are unfuckable and remain virgins

>>11181215
If autism has a genetic component and is increasing rapidly, then clearly autists must be Chads.

>>11181240
That's not how it works

>>11181245
He isn't wrong. Autism is becoming so common that even chads in the future could be autists. Autists are going to dominate the social ladder

>>11179842
>Why?
Porn and masturbation.

>>11179842
>epidemiology stats in psychiatry
>imagining that they matter at all

wew lad

>>11179842
me

>>11180059
based and tedpilled

>>11181240
>>11181288
chads are p autistic when you consider how they disregard female emotion. the only reason they get puss is because they are chad, they're not in tune with how women operate. they just have it easy. funny thing is women consider that attractive, high test and autism are highly correlated.

>https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-07-high-estrogen-womb-linked-autism.html

>birth pills are a thing

i don´t know OP

>>11181368
so the plot thickens, last i recall it was high test.
https://www.sciencealert.com/large-new-study-takes-on-some-of-the-evidence-behind-the-hyper-masculine-theory-of-autism

>>11179918
>go outside
Get some perspective

>The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households.
-- Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

>>11179842
>Why?

I know the answer to this one.
Because medical care for children is pretty much all paid by the government and the government likes to categorize things for easy accounting, standardization, and to monitor for fraud.
Autism has a HUGE spread of symptoms.
Is is much easier to diagnose a child for Autism then it is to check for dyslexia, psychological nervousness, etc.
Basically Autism has become the default diagnose for any kid having developmental difficulties that are not clearly physical in nature (blindness, deafness, etc) or mental deficiencies.(retardation)

>>11179842
Capitalism...I'll,get back to you once I've finished Deleuze

>>11179842
>random unidentified chart from who knows where
Why do the zoomer plebbitors like you keep posting this shit? Do wan't to be taken seriously? If so start providing LEGIT data with your arguments.

>>11181830
BASED socrates
>>11181935
t. watches jordan peterson

>>11180110

I mean I get what you're trying to say but it seems a bit conspiracy-y

>>11181162
I remember as a kid for whatever reason I would just bang my head against the wall for no reason and feel constant fear and emotional agony. It was like the most awful anxiety, sense of obsession, and sensory discomforting being alive. At least that's what I remember at age 3 or 4. I also remember feeling unable to describe how I feel and use language.

I learned to speak at the age of 2 though and got better and better. I still have some symptoms like comorbid anxiety and depressive episodes, as well as sort of awkward, but a lot less than the stereotypical engineering student for example.

t. autistic here with legit 130 - 145 IQ tested age 10

>>11181361
being a mumbling awkward retard with no friends or job etc. isn't attractive though. elliot rodger was a good looking dude but his autism was his downfall. i guess it depends on severity or how exactly it manifests itself.

>>11179842
It's the next step in evolution. As the autismos succeed in the the marketplace of intelligence they seek each other out and breed like retarded rabbits. They also reproduce by emitting spores which infect the targeted pregnant female and turn the developing child into another autismo.

>>11179842
Speciation based on selection pressure. The autistic are superior in a world that selects for literally anything other than monkey social circlejerking

>>11179847
FPBP.
>>11179842
Obviously is just advancements in medicine or specifically the process of diagnosing autism.

Also could be that they have been making the process of diagnosing autism more broad.

>>11181830
Socrates never said that. And not in the sense that Socrates never said anything because he's not real, but in the sense that even if Socrates were real, he never said that.

probably a mix of more recognition of the condition (boomers would just try to beat it out of them) and possibly some degree of over/mis-diagnosis.

if you dont display symptoms of the disorder between birth date and 3 years old you do not have it...sometimes its present at birth (symptoms) and in most cases i believe it has a sudden onset, usually around 1-2 years old...that or it just takes the parents/care givers a little longer to actually notice what's going on. things like aversion to sound, lights, extreme hand flapping, echolalia, when the child *seems* deaf or impervious to pain, or very sensitive to touch (it can be hypo and hypersensitive)...the child not responding to their name or engaging with adults/other children is a big red flag. you cannot assume their behaviors are due to conditioning or abuse, 1-3 year olds should always respond to their names and seek engagement with their parents. if they're not responding to their name and wont try to engage in pretend play that's a big warning sign they are autistic.

i know this because ive done a lot of research on ASDs, been around other autist and am on the spectrum myself and i could see myself on old video footage of when i was a baby/toddler and all the tell-tale signs were there. my face is pretty much like the autismo is in pic related.

the thing is to the majority of the public if you're not a head banging retard who screams and self injures, has seizures or whatever else, you're not considered truly autistic. if you're very high functioning (independent and can have sex) then people insultingly say that "you're not really autistic" or "they must've made a mistake" etc. it only becomes very apparent when a person spends time with you and they see your traits/behaviors, especially the lack of empathy. the empathy deficit is very obvious when you're in a friendship or relationship with someone. others freak out at over labels (family).

>>11182176
but you dont need to be economically successful to reproduce anymore and IQ is negatively correlated with fertility

>>11182124

elliot rodger had PDD-NOS (a type of ASD) and if you read his police report there's some good information about it. how he was when he started school, it seems all kids with PDD-NOS have very similar traits in early life.

I believe PDD-NOS differs from asperger syndrome because kids with PDD-NOS tend to have a slight language delay and/or motor delay where as aspies dont have language delays. classic autism/kanner syndorme is the full retard variant. i remember a non-verbal kid at school had classic autism and he was obviously extremely sensitive to sound and yet his dumb fuck care giver (friend of his mother) and teachers would force him to be present during assemblies. its really unfair for most autist to be forced to be integrated in normal schools.

>>11181856

id say this is another good/likely explanation for why the dx rates have gone up. ASD has a fuck ton of comorbidities. at the end of the day the most clear defining feature of all ASDs is the lowered (or lack of) empathy and weak/non-existent theory of mind. a lot of aspie fags will say they "only" have a lack of cognitive empathy where in reality a lot of autist have issues with motor empathy too. my whole life if someone tries to point something out to me i REALLY struggle to find where they are pointing or look where they are looking, when people point it confuses the fuck out of me and takes a lot of time for me to process what's happpening. there's also stuff like yawning when others yawn or feeling someones pain when you see them get injured. seeing people hurt doesn't effect me at all but when i notice other people tend to react to another persons pain.

>>11179847
Fpbpx2

>>11179987
kek. Unwittingly? The chemical companies and drug companies were started by nazi eugenicists.

>>11180018

>an entire empire collapses because of spergs

KEK

>>11180047

what???

>>11182426
>>11179987

nope...autism rates are roughly the same across demographics. kids in south korea have the same rates as the UK, australia and USA.

But, muh spectrum!

>>11179889
this and also its cool these days to get a psychiatric diagnosis now, you get to act damaged and demand sympathy from everyone and get special treatment and it gives you excuses for being a shitty human being.
in the 20th century getting diagnosed with a mental disease meant that you were a spastic loser and should pretty much kill yourself.

>>11182459

fuck off back to /pol/ with all the other low functioning spergs please.

>>11179842
Gotta have something that reduced the population below the carrying capacity, considering we don't fight wars anymore, we've vaccinated ourselves against most diseases, and way too many people are living for way too long. If intelligence is the problem, the solution is a lack thereof. Life finds a way, etc.

>>11181175
>1. The ""Agenda"" of reducing world populations
You say that as if we aren't grossly over-populated and relying on technology to artificially support us beyond the natural carrying capacity of the Earth. We're literally causing an extinction event because there's too fucking many of us.
Let me guess, in recent history, you've shared a meme on facebook about the "hubris of humanity to believe we can change the climate of mother Earth", but have also posted something about how the government uses HAARP to manipulate the weather?

>>11182494
One day maybe you'll be mature enough to realize that psychiatry only exists as a means for charlatans posing as doctors to trick individuals into forking over large amounts of cash in exchange for complicated, circular logic excuses for embarrassing behavior as well as access to otherwise illegal and extremely addictive feel-good pills.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

>>11182535

100% a /pol/tard.

>psychiatry and neurological disorders are a jooish scam

>>11182508
As terrible as it sounds, the fact that people with serious mental and physical deficiencies decide to breed into the genepool seem like it would have the effect of a "disease within the genepool." Just sort of naturally spreading these defects

Perhaps if genetic editing becomes a thing these conditions will die out

But if autism occasionally breeds supergeniuses, maybe then we will also not have as many geniuses...

>>11179975
But he's not wrong, Gen Y+ grew up in an entirely different world from their parents and we are all socially maladjusted as fuck.

source: I'm a CPS drone who gets to reap the rewards of the collapse of the nuclear family as an ideal every day for a living

>>11182096
>(You
God Bless and SAL-ute,
My sister was ADHD in the 60's/70's and nobody had a clue as to what was going on.
In her mid-40's she was diagnosed and put on Ritalin, and she's doing much better because of the meds.

>>11182415
It's kind of weird to me that I have the bullshit with pointing/looking as bad as you have it but not any of these other problems. But goddamn it's so fucking annoying, it's like my brain just turns off when someone makes a gesture at something.

>>11179842
Looks like it'll do this

>>11179842
1, the Main issue you fucking dipshit morons are "career focused" and having kids more and more at ages youre not supposed to, birth defects increase exponentially after the age of 35, older dried up mothers lead to genetic abnormalities that are disabling, Older fathers with shit sperm are primarily linked developmental disorders, thats why you see disproportionate rates in the wealthy of developing countries and in certain segments like ethiopia and somalia
2 increase in idiots testing for it, medical and psychiatry practitioners misdiagnose patients based on the illnesses theyve spent more time around, doctors who constantly try to rip kids tonsils out for no good reason, retarded psychologists who are obsessed with multiple personality disorder, autism is more easily diagnosed and potentially misdiagnosed, same issues apply to other developmental disorders like adhd

>>11179847

>>11179851
found the autist

>>11179853
Lrn2correlation, Sherlock

>>11182657

i lost the picture but it basically showed the dramatic increase in the chance of a mother giving birth to a downie past a certain age (i believe it was around 28 years old).

>>11182585

happens to me all the time and i remember it always being like this. my dad would rage at me when he'd point stuff out and it'd take me forever to find what he was pointing at and often id just give up out of frustration. i really have to pause and think now to try deal with this, its embarrassing at work because i do a reasonably physical job where we need to communicate between each other and call out errors/fuck ups. it happened again the other day too when i was at the road with my girlfriend and she was pointing at a ribbon on a tree (because its christmas) and it took me ages to find where the fuck she was pointing and all she did was laugh at me because im looking EVERYWHERE but where she is pointing.

>>11182756
I feel like it's an application of the same effect that makes eye contact such a bitch, you always find yourself looking around people and taking the time to focus on any part of them just feels wrong for whatever reason.

When my parents/family/friends do it to me I usually just tell them to go fuck themselves and describe the object to me, ain't nobody got time for that shit.

>>11182767

i dont really look at people when i speak to them, i tend to stare at an object or just stare into space blankly, it feels like my brain can only process what their saying and nothing else, looking at them makes it very difficult. eye contact doesn't feel natural and i cant really read peoples emotions (mind in the eyes) either. i think part of the reason its harder for me is because i have some form of synthesisia (or just a very visual thought process) ; its like if i hear speech or words i automatically see the words in my vision, accompanied by a series of images related to the word/subject. it happens very quickly and its involuntary,

>>11182596
Nah it will probably cap at something closer to 1.5/1 (On average, obviously)

>>11182770
Yeah, pretty much. Never thought of the synesthesia aspect either but that sounds like a good way to look at it. Wish I remembered how the fuck I personally dealt with it. I think a combination of my parents treating me normally (but patiently) and tons of public speaking/leadership shit with autist-friendly rubrics being forced on me in high school helped a lot. I still glaze the fuck over when someone talks to me, but now I let my eyes roll in the general direction of their face. Reading emotions was definitely difficult as shit but doable with time, eventually you can fake it.

>>11182814

i can fake it too up to a point but the limit is when i reach my "max load", in other words being around too many people or a person/s too often, eventually it kinda breaks me and i revert to my autistic ways. this happens every time i get close to someone (like a girlfriend), the mask slips eventually and i cant keep up the acting and devoting so much energy into appearing normal. im very lucky my current gf accepts my tism and generally piss poor empathy. i guess being reasonably good looking and funny/sweet makes up for the retardation and being bit of an arsehole. RIP to the autist with mediocre looks.

>>11182777
nice digits

>>11182901
Thanks chief

>>11179842
4chan launched in 2003

>>11179842
>The DSM-III, published in 1980, established autism as its own separate diagnosis and described it as a “pervasive developmental disorder” distinct from schizophrenia.

Because it just barely got discovered around the time this chart starts. We learn new information about diseases every decade, especially how to diagnose them better.
also
>Autism "rate"
should be
>Autism diagnosis rate

>>11180018
>Autists gonna ruin the world
>Not save it by being so direct in their conversation, that lots of conflict is avoided
I for one embrace the rise of my socially inept colleagues.

>>11179842
Your family unfortunately started proliferating.

>>11182980
This guy gets it. Smart people on the spectrum call out bullshit point-blank with no regard for social propriety. This is what society needs now more than ever. A 170 IQ sperg with a solid moral compass would honestly make an amazing president, just get someone else to make the speeches.

>>11179902
So does that mean your mom was 26+?

>>11183000
That too, but I more meant personal conflicts. Like when someone comments something another person and they interpret it on personal level rather than a simply descriptive one. From my little experience and from what I heard you can usually be assured that an autist talking to you mainly uses that descriptive layer of communication, which basically eliminates conflicts like that at the root.

>>11182980
>>11183000
Based neurotypicals
https://youtu.be/hkHvDOPNI1w

>>11183009
This is true also. They make good mathematicians and engineers for this reason as their minds aren't cluttered with social cues and petty minutiae. Talking is just a way to receive and convey information to them.

>>11179842
True autism is extremely rare. All these kids on "the spectrum" are the result of a society focussed on labeling everything and medicalizing ordinairy behaviour. Children are not miniature adults. They have trouble coping and can't really control how they emotionally react to problems.
Diagnoses: childhood

>>11182750
yeah thats a genetic abnormality/disorder
Old men are the cause of developmental disorders

>>11183019

In addition, autism being in the mental foreground of many parents has also lead to the increase of diognosis. More people thinking about it, more people are going to get their kid screened. Not saying that all of the screened truely have autism, just that odds of someone getting screened is much higher now then it was in the 1970s.

>>11180059
It's the next step in evolution. Under natural circumstances, it'd be only a one-step process where weak genetics are weeded out immediately.
People with even slightly below-average, weaker genetics are baited into a health-compromising lifestyles so that when the tide comes crashing back in, they drown. You have to just let it happen. Nature will always prevail.

>>11179842
We are approaching the SENgularity.

>>11182585
Some people are also bad at pointing at shit.

>>11179842
They dont execute defective newborns anymore...
in the past they would just ignore that they existed at all

>>11181121
>You realise that literally every generation felt that way.
Science is progressing a way faster now, and consequently the environment also change a lot faster. The impact of our societal and economic choice probably greatly impact young generation, and it is becoming more difficult to asses this impact.

If you want an example: a kid "educated" by looking at people though the screen of a smartphone (where there is no interactions), will probably have more difficulties to have correct social interaction than a kid educated by interacting with real people.
New technology are being integrated in our daily life (including kids) at a rate never seen before. I could totally believe this is one reason of the increased case of autism.

>>11179842
The pills aren't gonna diagnose themselves.

>>11183656
There's data to prove that people are less social due to technology, but is autism really something you can develop by not talking to people? Haven't heard any evidence to support that

>>11182338
Even if he said it, the notion that it's natural for a new generation to be shit can only lead to decadency. It's like giving up education before it even started.

Here is my theory on autism.

Autism really has to be seen as a spectrum, once you go past a certain point you can be considered autistic. So it's not just a condition like having a broken arm where you either have your arm broken or not.

Now for why it is more prevalent nowadays I'd say it's for two reasons:
-first child mortality: Before autistic people, like anyone who had any kind of mental disorder had two choices, adapt or die out (you have to rememember that back in the roman period half children died during infancy, afterwards it lessen a lot but was still pretty high until the 21th century)
For those who were high functionning enough they adapt until their autistic trait almost disapear.
But those who weren't high fucntionning enough just died out. Of course there were a few who survived infancy despite not being functionning enough but they were outlier.
-Second reason is technological development, those who could have been considered as almost normal back in the days aren't anymore since because of the influence of thechnology they weren't able to develop good enough social skills.

And finnaly there is also the fact that people get diagnostic more often.

>>11180059
based and redpilled, worse things will come, but only only those who can adapt will survive

>>11184262
why "perhaps as scared...", can he not commit to his imagery

>>11179904
Wrong.
It’s over diagnosed a sort of catch aall category for special education that lets your school get autismbux and you get modified schoolwork and doesn’t require a pinpoint diagnosis the way others do.

>>11179842

>autism -labeling- since 1970

After thousands of years of the study of human biology, modern day psychologists and pharmaceutical manufacturers are repackaging old news.

Autism is whatever your grant funding desires.

A retard in a dress is still a retard.

>>11182124
you have no idea wtf autism is

>>11179866
Ooo

>>11179994
Its not terrible for pipes as long as its properly sealed and coated so the lead doesn't leech out.

>>11180020
Why is the fetal DNA in vaccines?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G1k6xLQnJD8

>>11181177
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G1k6xLQnJD8

>>11181830
Ah. As it has been, so it shall be.

>>11179842
Autism is a fitness depressing pathological condition intolerable in an environment where tight-knit hunter gatherer bands and small agrarian communities would have to routinely marshal resources for community defense, marital alliances, food allocation and ritual community bonding. It is not logical that this would have been a prevalent condition at any appreciable rate in most human environments so that either drastic relaxation to selective pressures or developmentally disruptive environmental changes in the last few hundred years would be the only logical causes. >>11179847
This argument presupposes that a neurodevelopmental disorder, caused by high mutational load and abnormal development, is something that has been historically prevalent. This violates the logic that informs evolutionary theory and so gives no explanation for the cause of this condition spreading so rapidly. Thus, this is a false hypothesis, there is no evidence nor causal mechanism that could explain the explosion in autism diagnoses that is reasonable given the broader robust biological theory that informs our understanding.

>>11186338
>t. jurgen spergies

>>11179842
Autism is overdiagnosed. Everyone is on the spectrum to a mild degree. Things that were previously classified as shyness or even something innocuous like intense interest in something most find boring is now considered autism. The term should really be reserved for the primitive screeching psychopaths.

Soooo... you have various sources of pollutants that cause autism.
Read https://journals.lww.com/pbj/Citation/latestarticles/The_link_between_salt_and_neurological_disorders_.99948.aspx and see reference "Alpha emitting nanoparticulates, the forgotten pollutant" for PROOF

You will understand that many causes have increased due to industrialization (uranium, thorium etc. in coal, in oil & gas (in these two cases it's not natural, unlike coal), phosphated fertilizers, and sometimes nuclear fallout, nuclear accidents & exposition to depleted uranium weapons - where they're used it's a crime against humanity, and near military camps where soldiers train with them)

Hence progressive increase in autism cases, even though I'd be extremely careful with the exact quantification due to the varsity of diagnosis systems

>>11186349
Not actually very autistic after some time dealing with true spergs. I like talking with other people too much and don't react nearly as strongly to sensory overload as an autist would. But, that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that one cannot guarantee the strength of the argument for diagnoses being the cause of this exponential increase in autism. It is not sustainable in a highly social mammal at anywhere near the incidence rate we are seeing, and so another explanation is warranted. However, there is no strong evidence for the genetic or environmental causes of the disorder and we can only speculate as to whether its a combination of the two or make tenuous hypotheses as to which specific disturbances could be at the root of the epidemic. Mutational load seems reasonable but that's also a good way of avoiding discussion of the topic and provides little insight. Argument for it could be that in conjunction with the increase in autism, autoimmune disorders, musculskeletal defects, metabolic disorders and other strange fitness depressing diseases and deformities are increasing in prevalence and seem to not have been present at nearly this frequency just a few hundred years ago, and are not observed in healthy mammal populations.

>>11181215
>>11181240
That's only because you're imagining autists as ugly skinny nerds and fat neckbeards and chris-chan type cringelords. But autism is unrelated to physical appearance, and Chad autists are common. Instead of seeing them as shy pathetic virgins, you see them as strong and silent aloof tough guys

>>11186433

Mammals are smarter than most humans
They feel damage and flee it as soon as they can

See >>11186410 my earlier comment

Most humans self repress their bisexuality, they like to be victims, it's a substitute to the anal penetration (bisexuality is universally innate)

They only react if they can react as a community, form a political movement structured against scapegoats with the will to cut some heads
They will NOT adapt individually
They indeed want a group united against scapegoats to feel the romantism that they miss (as males, self repressing their bisexuality, they need a love component in the group that is found in the definitive decision to come to bloodspilling of opponents, read René Girard)

It's only, I think, in the USA that I know that there are MANY people outside this logic
The % of participation in federal elections, typically low, shows this
Absence of fear of guns also was known to be a proof of lack of self repression of the innate bisexuality (Freud says this absence of fear is a "sign of sexual and emotional maturity", confirming it's a good step)

Read From an Einstein Syndrome to the People, first chapter, for more on the above

>>11186445
>chad autists are common
Considering autism is not a common disorder and that what is commonly considered chad is probably ~20% of the male population this is not true.

>>11186469
>>11186445
Autism is less visible when it's in a handsome Chad. The weird shy scrawny white kid is obviously autistic, but everyone sees the autistic handsome muscular Chad as just "Strong and silent"

>>11186483
I know what you're talking about and have met people like this, they're not common at all. Smart handsome men are more common than handsome autists, and neither are very common among handsome men. Autists have unique facial features that are not considered attractive, and the intelligent also have unique facial features which tend not to be considered attractive.

>>11179842
older parents

Fluoride in the water.
Video games.
The Internet.

>>11179842
maybe because we couldnt document older cases accurately and not tgat we have better statistical data, we know the true number

>>11181162
Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder thats always co-occuring with OCD. The disease is there, it exists, the diagnosis is becoming more sensitive. That's all there is to it.

It sometimes occurs with mental retardation to give low-functioning autism. That is a very obvious type of autism and hence why you feel as though it is the more legit one. But autism has characteristics completely independent of IQ.

>>11179842
Scott Alexander suggests that those traits that can cause autism correlate with high intelligence. There are a few studies that support this assertion. This, however, doesn't mean that autistic people are abnormally intelligent. Their second degree relatives tend to be, though.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/11/13/autism-and-intelligence-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/

>>11179842
We've been evolving whatever makes people neurotypical people's brain decay. It's them who is delusional and often stupid as fuck, autistic people are the healthy ones.

>>11186338
You think that using a lot of big words makes you seem smart, but it usually does the opposite.

>>11179842
Too hygienic environments.

We've been evolving whatever makes neurotypical people's brains decay. It's them who is delusional and often stupid as fuck, autistic people are the healthy ones.

>>11187459
You are very stupid anon.

>>11182426
>eugenics
making everyone unhealthy and feeble minded would be contrary to eugenics

>>11179842
my dad was a handsome autist and ran around impregnating all the bitches he could, I was the last child he had and he was 74 was I was born. ive got 83 half siblings/siblings (1 full sister) and was born with over 40 nephews/nieces and 14 grand nieces/nephews . also his dad did similar shit, bunch of handsome genius autists.
sorry guys :(

>>11187480
You are. You may impress some uneducated people, but not the average 4chan anon.

>>11187459
I sorted the words by length. Do you ACTUALLY find the bigger words in this list challenging?
Second biggest word is developmentally. YIKES such a big scary word what does it mean!?!?! Third biggest word is understanding. YIKES!!! I don't understand!!!!

Lmao you're obviously low IQ asf

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>>11187609
It isn't how difficult the words are, it's how you're using them. It looks like you're using the words only to show off your vocabulary, which is something that makes you look dumb.

https://socialtriggers.com/the-big-problem-with-big-words-hint-they-make-you-look-stupid/

>>11179847
fpbp
burn the rest of the thread

>>11179842
Autism correlates directly with heavy metals sound in the blood. They are suffering from a metal intoxication, induced from their diet of heavily processed foods containing preservatives, their food packaging lining leeching into the food itself, contaminated drinking water, mass grown vegetables contaminated with synthetic fertilizers and weed killers, medications like vaccinations which use heavy metals as stabilisers and preservatives - the list goes on.

Autism is a modern disease, caused by modern means of production and consumption.

>>11187773
bullshit; it's the other way round - copper being labelled a "heavy metal" is a major cause of neurological dysfunction in the general population. Cobalt may also be needed outside B12 and vanadyl (VO) may be needed too.
The extreme levels of calcium (especially combined with low levels of magnesium) are another contributing factor. The extreme levels are another.
Autistic people are merely more sane and or intelligent by the nature of being more resistant to these disruptions.

>>11187773
bullshit; it's the other way round - copper being labelled a "heavy metal" is a major cause of neurological dysfunction in the general population. Cobalt may also be needed outside B12 and vanadyl (VO) may be needed too.
The extreme levels of calcium (especially combined with low levels of magnesium) are another contributing factor. The extreme levels of iron are another.
Autistic people are merely more sane and or intelligent by the nature of being more resistant to these disruptions.

>>11187773

No, it's contamination of the PARENTS with heavy metals that are alpha emitters.
Because parents live in an environment rich in these, children too. Chemists do studies on children's blood and find a number of metals, including these, just label 'heavy metals' and reading that makes it look like it's a direct poisoning issue

Read https://journals.lww.com/pbj/Citation/latestarticles/The_link_between_salt_and_neurological_disorders_.99948.aspx and read second reference for proof

>>11187941
>https://journals.lww.com/pbj/Citation/latestarticles/The_link_between_salt_and_neurological_disorders_.99948.aspx
Completely retarded; impossible to believe that somebody wouldn't notice the salt we eat is radioactive; the protein collapse for the same reason proteins in egg whites collapse, they are missing copper ions that keeps them stable; this is how copper bowl allows you to whip egg whites without risk of ruining them - the copper stabilizes the protein as it would if it wasn't missing.

>>11187966

you obviously did not take any minute to read the paper which is about alpha emitting nanoparticulates such as uranium, radon etc being attracted by chlorine from salt

You understand what "mediated by" means ?

>>11179979
damn kids these day isolating themselves in these 'books'. No wonder the world is going to shit.

>>11180110
maybe change your psychiatrist... This is not normal behaviour of the ones I've met.

>>11182170
autism is not correlated to IQ, as far as I know it is just more prevalent in the extremes

>>11182535
you know, lots of money has gone into development of non-addictive anti depressants.

We now consider normal behavior abnormal, and expect our children to sit still and be quiet for 6+ hours everyday.

>>11187999
autism is the only negative trait besides myopia correlated with IQ...

>>11179842
women giving birth at latter and latter ages

>>11188318
IQ is designed to scale the degree of mental retardation, nothing more

>>11188008
heroin was originally marketed by bayer as a less addictive alternative to morphine, you corporate drug shills have been using the same lie since the 1800s, nobody but the uneducated and the extremely stupid believe any of that bullshit anymore.

That's why.

>>11179842
Antibiotics

Its EMF, electronic radiation, and vomputer screens/tv screens specifically.

When someone watches a screen they have to tune out their surrounding environment, this is alot different than reading a book because on a screen the picture changes dramatically, so the brain has to adjust how it balancea processing there environment around it and focusing on the screen.

The cumulative effect of this over motnths to years produces something like autism, where the brain is automatically trained to assume there is a screen in front of it, and when there isn't it has trouble literally taking in the normal sensory load.

Who gets autism is based on their susceptibility, but I can tell you we are all autistic to some point in this day and age, but also autism is caused by of course chemicals too but the extreme spike should be obvious for anybody, because the 70s was the beggining of mass use of vs in households.

>>11189206
I would also like to add that emf drains lithium From the brain and blue light drains b12 from the brain

>>11179842
An expanding definition which is becoming hard to to distinguish from the general population

pretty much every chart of bad shit you can name started in the 1970s.

That was when the WARNINGS came in. The 1980s was when the Republican government colluded with industry to gaslight the population, as they are today

PROCESSED FOOD PEOPLE WHO ONLY EAT NATURAL FOOD HAVE NO ASD AND MOTHERS WHO DON'T DRINK AND EAT HEALTHY WHEN PREGNANT WILL ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE HEALTHY BABIES

>>11190308
Question is why not how.

>>11190314
I think processed food is the worst thing to happen o us. It is very unhealthy, bad for you brain and bad for your body. Real processed food doesn't kill you straight away, but kills you slowly day by day as your body becomes more and more cancerous or more likely to get diabetes or any number of bad food related problems. People who happen to eat healthy food just so happen to have sharper minds and are more motivated. I dare say that the Mediterranean diet will become the norm in the future once more people realise. Eating healthy should be as obviously good for you as quitting smoking or quitting drinking and yet it isn't because the junk food companies are too powerful.

>>11179979
OK Boomer

>>11179842
Round Up Ready

>>11181830
You know it's been like 1500 years now since the greeks did anything worth fuck all?

>>11182391
Is the low mental health in the picture autism or just mental conditions in general?

Neurotypics are just beneath Autismos. They are getting bred out, because their extroverted minds are becoming less and less important in the Information Age, and will widen with each age forward in terms of gap.

Fact of the matter is, HF Autism is simply superior for the 2000s, and will remain as such for at least centuries. The only reason everyone isn’t autistic yet is due to boomers and boomers infecting their kids with their outdated minds.

>>11182756
How can it be so difficult? I mean, pointing is just a matter of geometry, it's not like you're interpreting body language or mimicking exercises where there's this innate connection to and interpretation of humanity. I mean, when I point to things i just directly aim my finger towards it, simple as. Do you also have poor spatial awareness in other cases?

>>11179842
ahahahahaha

>>11187609
Now this is genuine autism, jej

>>11181830
Didn't the Greek empire collapse shortly after that date

>>11187935
Are you just one guy or what?

Hey everyone else, is this guy just another anon with a pet insane fringe theory or could he have a point?

>>11187977
No, I don't understand what it means because it doesn't mean fucking anything. How the fuck would that work, can you tell me?

>>11179866
o

>>11179842
It's the next stage of human evolution

Normies must be shitting themselves in fear, your time has come

>>11181169
More like thirty six in thirty six

EVERYONE is on the autism spectrum, just some are at the "neurotypical" end and others are closer to the "autistic" end.

>>11179842
Studies have revealed that having children later in life increases risk of the child developing neurological conditions during preignancy, this combined with the fact that people in the west choose to have children later would explain some of it. Another reason is also that we've become better over the years at diagnosing autism.

Didn't the guy who invented autism say it was fake?

>>11187609
based
>>11187658
have sex braincel

>>11190690

>autists don't breed and are the result of genetic damage from parents having children outside their fertility window (also implying long-term lack of fitness while our big brained intelligence was evolving.)

>>11190719
Keep saying that, even when you're outnumbered stupid norman

>>11190719
that's a meme

>>11179902
A better solution would be to provide better economic and social benefits for mothers, so they actually have an incentive to have children while they're young instead of waiting until they've properly established themselves. Of course this will never happen because current goal in the west is to make pregancy as undesirable as possible.

>>11190705
KYS samefag

Aluminium in your food.

>>11189108
someone stopped taking their antishizoids

>>11190724
>aspies
>procreating

>>11190729
No, that creates niggers. Fathers need more rights and benefits, because they're the ones who actually provide a proper role model to kids. There's a reason most criminals have claimed to have a single mother.

>>11179842
Kids born from 1995 onwards grew up or are growing up in different social circumstances. Since they had access to social media from a young age, their mindsets have adjusted accordingly.

Gen Y kids and the generations before had no internet, and could socialize like 'neurotypical' people. Even so, there's a handful of autistic people among Gen Y as well.

Right now, Gen Y's children (Gen Alpha, born from 2010 onwards) are growing up with iPads from a very early age. By the time they can vote, autism will be seen as one of various normal mindsets.

Technological and cultural advancement changes the mindset of humans, it's only natural.

>>11179842
Autism is just heavy metal poisoning in early childhood.

heritability at between 60–90%

just need genetic screening

>>11191021
no, it isn't: >>11187935

>>11190990
We are increasing in numbers regardless.

Your age is over.

DYOR autismos

>>11179849
>>11179842
>>11179853
>>11179918
>>11179904
>>11179979
t. 21 year old conservative who's """remembering""" those """degenerate free"""times that never existed

>>11181121
This defence means that no generational changes will ever be admitted

>ctrl+f
>fluoride in the water
>zero replies
Have to point a finger right here at this.
>Massive amounts found in China cause noticeably lower intelligence
>Japanese study found it "adversely affects neurodevelopment in children, study scrubbed from wikipedia
>was intended to prevent tooth decay from brushing and rinsing, not drinking
>People got along fine without it
You want anecdotal evidence? Look at fattyairsoft drinking tap water out of the sink directly. Anybody in Africa have autism? No? Guess what, no fluoride there.

>>11192098
>Look at fattyairsoft drinking tap water out of the sink directly. Anybody in Africa have autism? No?

Ah, so that explains why they're all niggers

>>11192105
I mean, you can look at the autism rate Afrikaners if you want to prove the hypothesis, if such data exists. There's a few tapwater-free cities popping up in the United States, but it'll take decades before that data comes in and then it won't be completely in a unaffected void as far as travel goes.

>>11192110
Shut up idiot, there's a million health problems that have no apparent cause or cure, and dipshits like you speculate ad nauseum about how they originate with zero evidence whatever.
>milk causes cancer
>wifi causes autism
>heavy metals cause acne
>vaccines cause snoring
blah blah blah blah blah

>>11192124
>Some evidence leads to this
>one or two specific studies here could narrow down on possible cause
>shut up idiot
Look at the thread topic, this is the time and place for such speculation.

>>11192129
There is no evidence. None. There will never be evidence, unless experiments are allowed on humans. You will never find the answer with statistics.

>>11179842
fuck it doubled again

Lets say you're psychiatrist and you got into the profession because you know that doctors are rich. If a potential customer who comes to your office to ask you if they need to come back every week for the rest of your life and have their insurance paying you a substantial fee every time, what do you think you would tell them? "No, you don't need to give me money every week for the next several decade" or "Yes, I think you should give me money every week until you finally realize that I'm not doing anything other than talking in circles"

>>11192407
there litearally no medications for being an autist, this isnt ADHD

>>11192520
>there litearally no medications for being an autis
That doesn't prevent some doctors from prescribing them.

>>11179842
diagnosis. population growth.

>>11179866
ooo

>>11192780
>rate
>population growth

>>11179842
Computers

>>11179842
Autism is a product of modern society, caused by our way of living. In premodern times, the most common mental illness was schizophrenia, people that claim to hear voices inside their heads are a common sight in societies without modern technology.

>>11182756
The development of the eye-white as a means of communication by easier finding out what someone is looking at feels relevant to notice here.
As well as over-active mirror neurons as an explanation for the difficulties with eye contact in autism.

Since I got a brain damage I easily become overloaded with impressions; noises of unclear origin/heading, uneven terrain, bright light and eye contact are just some of the things that I have difficulty to process now and results in the same feelings as the being blinded by bright light. It's interesting to experience how much information the brain could process without being concious about it. Now I enjoy silence while before I enjoyed calm background music.

I can relate to autists easier and probably even get a diagnosis if I highlighted some traits and ignored others.

>>11179842
>population increase
>so does population of autists

gee idk

>>11198193
>autism RATE
Are you retarded?

>>11181121
Implying they were ever wrong.